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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

756.0. "Connecting to DEC Agent 90 over network" by KERNEL::EVANSN () Wed Feb 23 1994 13:54

Can any body tell me whether you can connect to a DEC Agent 90 over the network 
assuming the Agent has not yet been assigned an IP address or name, i.e. is a 
newly installed agent.

I have tried MOP RCF connect but the Agent appears to send a garbage packet in 
response to reserve console and request id from the VAX.

Is there anything within hubwatch which will allow you to connect to the agent.

The reason I ask is that a customer has a specific need to configure new Agents
remotely.

Neal Evans - UK Comms TSC
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756.1An IP address is needed to be managed remotely.QUIVER::GALLAGHERWed Feb 23 1994 14:1126
>Can any body tell me whether you can connect to a DEC Agent 90 over the network 
>assuming the Agent has not yet been assigned an IP address or name, i.e. is a 
>newly installed agent.

Nope.  You must first give it an IP address.

>I have tried MOP RCF connect but the Agent appears to send a garbage packet in 
>response to reserve console and request id from the VAX.
>
>Is there anything within hubwatch which will allow you to connect to the agent.
>
>The reason I ask is that a customer has a specific need to configure new Agents
>remotely.

(I have no clue about the "garbage packet".)

MOP is not a routed protocol.  I would claim that even if you could configure
the DECagent90's IP address using MOP this would still not satisfy your
customer's requirement.

I don't think we're doing anything different than other vendors.  In order
to be managed remotely you need a routing protocol.  In order to initialize
your routing protocol you need a routing address.  Please let me know if
other vendors claim to meet this requirement, and how they do it.
 
							-Shawn
756.2When I say "remote"KERNEL::EVANSNWed Feb 23 1994 14:3511
When I said remote I merely meant that the customer would set host to a machine 
on the same LAN as the new agent, I realise that MOP is not routable.

But if you say MOP won't work then that's good enough for me.

However it would be nice to know why the Agent even bothers to respond to the 
connect, even if it is a rubbish packet.

Regards

Neal
756.3And as far as HUBwatch goes...SLINK::HOODI'd rather be surfingWed Feb 23 1994 15:483
HUBwatch only speaks SNMP, so it can't do what you want.

Tom
756.4BOOTP instead of MOP?QUIVER::GALLAGHERWed Feb 23 1994 16:3512
Neal,

The DECagent90 doesn't support inbound MOP remote console.  It does use
MOP to manage other devices.  So no, you can't use MOP.  (The garbage
packet is still a mystery to me.  If you could capture the request and
response I'm sure some of the DECagent folks would be interested.)

But, the DECagent90 does support BOOTP.  Your customer could set host
to an U*IX station and configure the BOOTP table to give the DECagent90
an IP address.  Perhaps this satisfies your customer's requirement?

						-Shawn
756.5How about SLIP?ARRODS::GILLJJohn, DTN 847-5849Thu Feb 24 1994 09:164
    Having configured the DECagent 90 is it possible to connect to it using
    SLIP (i.e. Out of band through it's console port)?
    
    JG
756.6SLIP support ... YESROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterThu Feb 24 1994 19:144
DECagent V2.0 will provide this functionality.  It is not in pre-V2.0 DECagents.

Roger Gaudet
DECagent 90 devo
756.7DECagent v2 kit?ARRODS::GILLJJohn, DTN 847-5849Fri Feb 25 1994 08:238
    This is very good news Roger.
    
    Do you have a network pointer for the DECagent v2 kit?
    
    Thanks,
    
    John
    
756.8Kit locationLEVERS::BENSONDTN 227-3555Fri Feb 25 1994 17:0512
    John,
    
    The field test kits are located at:
    
    Quiver::proj$722:[onehub.release.denma.t2_0]
    	$$README.TXT	(how to)
    	DECHUB90.MIB	(MIB)
    	DENMA_FT020.A	(VMS)
    	DENMA_FT200.TAR (ULTRIX)
    	
    Comments to me (LEVERS::BENSON) or Roger (QUIVER::GAUDET).