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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

585.0. "DEChub+DECNIS config question" by ZPOVC::DAIV02::FUNGSIONG (Digital Indonesia - Networks) Tue Dec 28 1993 07:33

Hallo,                       
    

Please comment whether this will work or not:

DEChub 90 	         DECNIS 600

DR900TM ------ DETPM --- L602 -|
DR900TM ------ DETPM --- L602  |
	  ^		 | ____|
	  |		 | |
	Straight	 | DETPM
	or Crossed?	 | |
			 | |
DECbridge 90 ------------- |
DEChub 90 #1     AUI       |
|			   | <---- Is this straight or crossed?
|ThinWire		   |
|                          |
DEChub 90 #2      D        |
DECbridge 90 ---- E --------
		  T
		  P
		  M

The two DEChub 90s are interconnected (distance < 55m) via ThinWire.

I am planning a high availability network. This network is
O.K., I think, unless the DECNIS 600 is down.

    
Please advise.

Thanks,
Fung Siong
                                                          
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585.1QUIVER::SLAWRENCETue Dec 28 1993 11:586
    The DECbridge 90 cannot be configured in a redundant configuration like
    that; see the configuration restrictions on it.
    
    If DR900TM is supposed to be the DECrepeater900TM, it can't be put into
    a DEChub 90, it must be a DEChub 900 or a pair of DEChub ONE single
    slot hubs.
585.2What about this revised config?ZPOVC::DAIV01::FUNGSIONGDigital Indonesia - NetworksWed Dec 29 1993 04:2944
    RE: .-1
    
    Sorry, I meant DECrepeater 900TM should be in DEChub 900MS.
    How about this revised config?
    
    
DEChub 900MS 	         DECNIS 600

DR900TM ------ DETPM --- L602 -|
DR900TM ------ DETPM --- L602  |
			 | ____|
			 | |
			 | DECXM 
			 | |
DECbridge 90 ------------- |
DEChub 90 #1     AUI       |
|			   |
| ThinWire #1              | ThinWire #2
|                          |
DECXM			   |
|			   |
DECbridge 90               |
DEChub 90 #2 --------------|

ThinWire #1 connects DEChub 90 #1 BNC backplane port to DECbridge 90
in DEChub 90#2; ThinWire #2 connects DEChub 90 #2 BNC backplane port
to LANcontroller 602 in DECNIS 600. I have calculated the total 
number of PCs in the workgroup side will be less than 200.
I need the DECbridge 90s to manage the repeaters in DEChub 90s.

	(1) Will this config be o.k., now?
	(2) Which UTP cable should I use for DECrepeater 900TM to
	    DECNIS LANcontroller 602 connection? Is it straight
	    or crossed?

Thanks for your reply!

Regards,
Fung Siong

P.S.: Merry X-mas and Happy New Year!



585.3QUIVER::SLAWRENCEWed Dec 29 1993 12:567
    Regardless of how you connect them, the configuration you show has the
    two bridges set up such that they could reconfigure and make the
    connection between them the backbone.  Not allowed. 
    
    How far apart are the two DEChub 90's?  If they are together then make
    them into a single 16 slot hub and just one bridge can manage all
    repeaters in both.
585.4Works for me.CGOS01::DMARLOWEdsk dsk dsk (tsk tsk tsk)Wed Dec 29 1993 15:0123
    re. 1 & .3
    
>> The DECbridge 90 cannot be configured in a redundant configuration like
>> that; see the configuration restrictions on it.
  
>>  Regardless of how you connect them, the configuration you show has the
>>  two bridges set up such that they could reconfigure and make the
>>  connection between them the backbone.  Not allowed.
  
    See note 34.1 in this conference as it contains a section, from Jeff
    Lomicka (DB90 engineer), about dual bridges in one hub and dual
    hubs each with a single bridge.
    
    Assuming the DECNIS is set for bridging and therefore spanning tree is
    active then your dual hub each with its own DB90 is VALID given
    that you follow the caveats.  You could also connect the management
    cable between the hubs and get repeater management redundancy although
    for simplicity you may want to leave this cable off.  Because if
    one bridge fails then it will take several minutes for the other
    bridge to become bus master eventhough spanning tree will switch
    over in 20-30 seconds.
    
    dave