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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:	DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:	Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:	NETCAD::COLELLADT

Created:	Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	4455
Total number of notes:	16761

511.0. "Try again stupid !" by GIDDAY::JEFFERY (NWSS - West Australia) Sun Nov 21 1993 20:31

    	We have installed V2.0.1 of Hubwatch. The message that is returned to
    the user if the DECagent selected does not exist, seems to need some
    work:_
    
    	"/AGENT=nosuch DOES NOT EXIST, try again stupid !"
    
    
    	It's probably not a good idea to tell your Customers that they are
    stupid. They might just decide that they're not the stupid ones. This
    is probably the most user UN-friendly interface possible. Would it not
    be better to display a selection list of those DECagents that DO exist - 
    perhaps via a user menu?
    
    						Regards,
    							Roger.

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
511.1	Sorry, but I couldn't find it.	SLINK::HOOD	I'd rather be surfing	`Mon Nov 22 1993 00:01`	16
	Well, I've just searched every HUBwatch (OpenVMS / ULTRIX) source file and could not find the word "stupid" anywhere. So, I also searched the image file and didn't find it there either. So, I tried the following two commands: $ WATCH /AGENT /IP=16.6.6.6 $ WATCH /AGENT BOZO (The specified address, as far as I know, is bogus, and BOZO is not in my agents file.) In both cases, I got reasonable error messages. In fact, I couldn't even find anything resembling your error message. What exactly did you do to get this message? Tom Hood HUBwatch devo
511.2	A longshot	CGOS01::DMARLOWE	dsk dsk dsk (tsk tsk tsk)	`Mon Nov 22 1993 05:18`	16
	By any chance is a " SET MESSAGE APRILFOOL.EXE" (or something like that) done somewhere in SYLOGIN.COM or LOGIN.COM for an alternate error message handler. The version I got over the network does have some insults and they're not limited to just DCL. Anything that can give an error message can and does get routed through this. Some of the entries that are in this one are shown below: FATDISPAC/ERROR <Fatal disk pack mount error, you pervert> SIZ <!UL is not the right size key, jerkface>/FAO=1 KEYINDEX <key already in index you jerk> FILALRACC <file is already being accessed, you stupid gat!> Just a thought. dave
511.3	Also try DECW$SYSTEM_DEFAULTS:HUB_MSG.MSF	SLINK::HOOD	I'd rather be surfing	`Mon Nov 22 1993 15:15`	2
	Along the same lines, look at DECW$SYSTEM_DEFAULTS:HUB_MSG.MSF where most of the messages HUBwatch generates are stored.
511.4	Not HUBwatch...	GIDDAY::JEFFERY	Net Manager Alice Springs	`Tue Nov 23 1993 04:52`	8
	Well (red face..) I have found the culprit. One of our engineers had created a utility to monitor device errors. It is called (of course) "WATCH", and doesn't observe the social niceties. Apologies for the red herring. Regards, Roger.
511.5	Thanks	SLINK::HOOD	I'd rather be surfing	`Tue Nov 23 1993 12:46`	4
	Thanks for clearing that up. Tom Hood HUBwatch message grepper