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Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

444.0. "DECbridge 90 port error counters are correct?" by ZUR01::FUEGLISTER (Roland Fueglister, 760-2498) Fri Oct 22 1993 14:20

I'm trying to find the source of the following error counters from the 
Hubwatch bridge port detail window:
- Framing(frames):
- Bad Received(frames):
- Receive Error(frames):
- Transmit erro(frames):
- Carrier Loss:
- Collision Limit Exceeded:

I assume the above error counters should be gettable via the following MIB 
variables:

Bridge port error counters defined in "sys$library:hubwatch_mib_master.dat":

db90IfEthCarrierLoss 1.3.6.1.4.1.36.2.18.10.5.3.5.2.1.3 Counter 
db90IfEthCollisionLimitExceeded 1.3.6.1.4.1.36.2.18.10.5.3.5.2.1.4 Counter 
db90IfEthFramingError 1.3.6.1.4.1.36.2.18.10.5.3.5.2.1.2 Counter 
dbIfBadFramesReceived 1.3.6.1.4.1.36.2.18.10.5.2.1.1.2 Counter 
dbIfTransmitFramesError 1.3.6.1.4.1.36.2.18.10.5.2.1.1.3 Counter 

I have used DECmcc as well as a simple MIB query tool to read the above 
variables directly. 
The following variables are readable:		db90IfEthCarrierLoss
						db90IfEthCollisionLimitExceeded

The following variables are NOT gettable:	db90IfEthFramingError
						dbIfBadFramesReceived
						dbIfTransmitFramesError

I assume that the DECbridge 90 console interface is able to display all error 
counters which are shown in the Hubwatch bridge port detail window. I assume 
that the following 1:1 correspondance exists: 

db90IfEthCarrierLoss == Unsent, carrier check failed
db90IfEthCollisionLimitExceeded == Unsent, excessive collisions:
 

The DECbridge 90 Console interface command "show port 1/2" shows the following
bridge port error counters:
- Received frame too long:        
- Unsent, excessive collisions:   
- Unsent, carrier check failed:   
- Unsent, lifetime exceeded:      

Because I cannot see any counters like db90IfEthFramingError,
dbIfBadFramesReceived or dbIfTransmitFramesError, I assume that the Hubwatch 
bridge port detail windows show wrong error counter information.

I know a customer which would like to use these error counters for 
LAN statistics, but if they are inaccurate/not valid...

Can sombody from Hubwatch Engineering correct/confirm the above statements.

			Any help will be appreciated

			Roland 


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444.1confirmedSLINK::HOODI'd rather be surfingFri Oct 22 1993 14:5110
We found during the HUBwatch V2.0 development that what is reported in SNMP
for many of the DECbridge 90 counters is wrong.  

I QAR'd some of the errors we saw, but there ain't nobody looking at it, so
I'm not holding my breath.

On the other hand, what the bridge reports thru RBMS is correct, so either
DECelms or the ELM module from DECmcc can get the correct counters.

Tom Hood
444.2change "0" with "NA"ZUR01::FUEGLISTERRoland Fueglister, 760-2498Fri Oct 29 1993 12:1020
Thank you for your immediate reply

/We found during the HUBwatch V2.0 development that what is reported in SNMP
/for many of the DECbridge 90 counters is wrong.  
/I QAR'd some of the errors we saw, but there ain't nobody looking at it, so
/I'm not holding my breath.

Why does Hubwatch V2.0 displaying counters with a value of zero which don't 
exist or are not readable via SNMP. Every normal person is trusting in these
counters and the attached LAN segment should be ok, if the displayed value is
"0". I would like to have displayed something like NA(not applicable) for
nonexisting counters.

/On the other hand, what the bridge reports thru RBMS is correct, so either
/DECelms or the ELM module from DECmcc can get the correct counters.

This suggestion is not appropriate for my customer; he has a routed network.


				Roland