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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

433.0. "HUBWATCH for ALPHA openVMS" by STROP::LAYLAND () Fri Oct 15 1993 10:42

Is there a date for hubwatch on open vms Alpha ?

Regards John
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433.1maybe, sort of.SLINK::HOODI'd rather be surfingFri Oct 15 1993 13:1619
The next version of HUBwatch (V3.0) is due sometime around February 1994.

The last I was told, it *might* support OpenVMS AXP, if it comes "free" (ie: 
all we need to do is re-compile and re-link our OpenVMS VAX code, and it's
done).

We're committed to doing OpenVMS VAX and probably OSF/1 AXP.

The biggest risk in doing multiple platforms isn't really the port, though.
It's testing multiple platforms.  And (ugh) going thru multiple (ugh) release
processes.  Just getting a single kit to the SSB (ugh) takes ungodly amounts 
of time and frustration.

How important is HUBwatch for OpenVMS AXP?



- Tom Hood
  HUBwatch kayaker-at-large and resident VMS bigot.
433.2Only one customerSTROP::LAYLANDMon Oct 18 1993 09:108
    I have one customer who is going to purchase 8 hub90's, with 45
    Brouters, 8 Bridge90 FL, or 8 Bridge 90's. The platforms are 4 Alpha
    VMS systems.  An additional question is the need to manage 4 DECnis
    500's, from a single management system. The last time this question
    came up, the answer was "OpenView".  Has anything changed  ?? Apart
    from DECmcc, (it aint porting to Alpha).
    
    Regards John
433.3Need VMS/AXP!DVOPAS::MILEHI::CASEIt's all Down Hill from here...Fri Nov 05 1993 18:2613
We're actively bidding many Alpha solutions now - OpenVMS has most of the
layered products functional, and OSF/1 is competitive in the UNIX space.

I'm working on a bid now that includes several OSF1/AXP systems, and one
OpenVMS/AXP, just to support Pathworks.  I'm configuring DEChub 900's, but
I can't see putting in a VAX workstation just for HUBwatch.  Support on VMS/AXP
would be great, followed by OSF1 and WNT.  For this bid, we will assume the
price for HUBwatch will be about the same on VMS/AXP, so we'll include the
VAX software as representative pricing, and hope /AXP is ready by the time they
buy (or soon after).  Any chance that product numbers (and prices) could be
determined so it could be quoted/ordered, then we wouldn't have to handle it
manually?

433.4Why VMS?QUIVER::SLAWRENCEFri Nov 05 1993 19:073
    I'm curious; in 433.3 you say the bid includes 'several OSF1/AXP
    systems, and one OpenVMS/AXP, just ot support Pathworks'; why is it
    that you rank the VMS version of HUBwatch as more important?
433.5For my opinion OSF/1ZUR01::SCHNEIDERRThu Nov 11 1993 05:5819
For my opinion it is more important to have asap the next version of HUBwatch on
OSF/1 than on Alpha VMS.

The moste of our customers specialy new one (not the installed base) want to
have an integrated Networkmanagement. Our future (powerfull future) is 

Polycenter on NetView Manager, first running on OSF/1. If we want be competitive
(and its hard at the moment to fight against other management tools like HP and
others), we need to offer at least our own application on one plattform
(HUBwatch must be launcable from Poly. on NetView Mananger.

I am a VMS hacker, had no courses in ULTRIX or OSF/1 but I think the future is
not VMS. We sell with word like open, integrated, for the future ....
and thats  N O T  VMS...sorry, so all we VMS freaks (including me) have to
change our minds........



Roland 
433.6OSF/1 _ASAP - it is costing us hub and consultancy business not to have itYUPPY::SEDTU6::KORMANtgif!!Fri Dec 03 1993 08:5118
433.7Could you explain the net config?HGOVC::JOELBERMANThu Dec 09 1993 12:5810
    We are doing a prototype and running the latest hubwatch on an old
    VAXstation 3100 managing two DEChub 90's through a DECagent and the
    response, while slow, is much much better than 45 seconds. I was hoping
    that when we get the 900 and a fast Alpha version of HUBwatch it would
    fly.
    
    COuld you explain more about the config and why youthink it is so slow?
    
    /joel
    
433.8confirmedLEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Thu Dec 16 1993 11:3915
433.9QUIVER::SLAWRENCEThu Dec 16 1993 11:573
    On the issue of unattended feedback, our intent is to add some RMON
    support so that you can get notices on whatever changes you need.
    
433.10Windows 3.1 + UnixLEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Tue Jan 04 1994 12:076