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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

411.0. "Active vs Passive Backplane" by ZPOVC::INDO01::FUNGSIONG (Digital Indonesia - Networks) Wed Oct 06 1993 03:34

    Hallo,
    
    An RFP specifies for hub to have "Passive backplane". What is the
    difference between passive and active backplane?
    
    I think DEChub 90 and DECNIS have passive backplanes, whereas DEChub
    900 with switching capabilities have active backplanes. Is that
    correct?
    
    Thanks and Rgrds,
    Fung Siong
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411.1DEChub 900 is passiveTENTO1::GREENRCuriosity Killed The CatFri Oct 08 1993 14:5313
    The term passive means no active componants, ie no silicon. My
    understanding is that the DEChub 900 backplane is simply etchs on a pcb
    and therefore passive. The switching is accomplished elsewhere and at
    this moment in time is a loose term to describe the s/w switching
    capabilities of placing modules onto different channels. When the
    dechub 900 supports ATM the switching will be done within a module and
    not on the backplane, rather across the backplane.
    The GIGAswitch would be an example of an 'active' backplane as it
    utilises a silicon based 'crossbar' switching technology.
    
    regs
    
    ross
411.2DEChub 900 is "inband passive"NAC::FORRESTFri Oct 29 1993 14:2711
	I think that in general the DEChub 900 would be considered to 
	have a passive backplane. However, to be technically correct, the 
	management "bus" is star wired etch to the Hub Manager card, which 
	has a gate array for traffic control.

	We claim that this arrangement is more reliable, since a module 
	failure in one slot cannot affect any other slot's management. 
	However, the Hub Manager itself is still a single point of 
	management failure. Similarly, in the 90, the Bus Master module is 
	a single point of management failure.
411.3active/passive and bus/crossbar are separate issuesMUDDY::WATERSFri Nov 19 1993 19:1811
>    The GIGAswitch would be an example of an 'active' backplane as it
>    utilises a silicon based 'crossbar' switching technology.
    
    Not true.  GIGAswitch (and the future ATM switch) have passive backplanes,
    into which you plug the switching logic.  For GIGAswitch, the crossbar
    logic is on a card inserted through the front.  For ATM switches (not
    DEChub 900), the crossbar logic might be installed through the back.

    Once you get past the "passive backplane" question, then say whether
    your switch is based on a bus, on a ring, or on a space switch.
    A crossbar switch is one form of space switch.