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Title:Microsoft Exchange Server
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Moderator:FLASK2::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 17 1995
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Thu Jun 05 1997
Number of topics:1099
Total number of notes:5174

1039.0. "Faxing Word documents" by DSC000::CWINPENNY () Mon Apr 28 1997 21:10

    
    Is it possible via MS-Exchange to fax a Word document as an attachment
    and have the receiving end decode that attachment back into a Word
    document?
    
    If so, how?
    
    Basically we need to be able to receive a standard document and extract
    certain text into our system without resorting to writing OCR stuff.
    
    I know this would be simpler via e-mail but the requirement is to
    handle input from faxes.
    
    Thanks
    
    Chris
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1039.1looks like Exchange/MS-FAX supports thisPARZVL::ogodhcp-125-64-85.ogo.dec.com::kennedynuncam non paratusMon Apr 28 1997 21:3112
Is this generic, or are you planning to receive these only
from specific senders?  Looking at the properties of the
Microsoft FAX service, it says you can specify sending an
editable FAX document (so I can only assume this means 
it's received as a document, not a FAX image) if the
receiver is using Microsoft FAX. So, if the other end is 
using Exchange and/or using Microsoft FAX, it should work.

In general, I think this is a function of the software
you use to recieve the FAX. I think some may even 
incorporate OCR into their software and may also provide
you with editable docs.
1039.2DSC000::CWINPENNYTue Apr 29 1997 15:3710
    
    It's MS-Exchange to MS-Exchange.
    
    I've tried checking the 'editable only' box but upon attempting to send
    down a modem it says that the device doesn't support that feature.
    Which to me is a totally meaningless message, the modem just accepts
    bits and throws them out again. If I have to do anything other than
    just check this box then I'd be glad to know.
    
    Chris
1039.3DSC000::CWINPENNYTue Apr 29 1997 21:2420
    
    A colleague has sorted this one out.
    
    If there is a failure the first time you FAX to an address MS-Exchange
    dumps a lot of stuff in the registry and thereon assumes that that
    particular address cannot receive editable faxes, this appears to occur
    even if it is simply a matter of the receiving fax just being busy
    first time round. Hence the cryptic message actually means 'I couldn't
    get through before so I'm not letting you even try again'. Checking the
    'editable if possible' box is a waste of time because MS-Exchange
    simply assumes it's not possible, checking the 'editable only' box
    gives the message mentioned before. The solution is to clean out the
    registry and just hope that the first time through you get a
    connection.
    
    Still some more time has to be wasted to see if this thing blocks out
    sending editable faxes if it fails to get connections on subsequent
    faxes.
    
    Chris
1039.4DSC000::CWINPENNYWed Apr 30 1997 19:117
    
    Another criteria for this to work is that the receiver must have a
    group 1 fax modem?

    Any pointers to manufacturers of group 1 compatible fax modems?

    Chris
1039.5DSC000::CWINPENNYThu May 01 1997 16:1212
    
    I seem to be running a one man topic here but I'll continue.
    
    Has anybody managed to send a Word to Word document via MS-Exchange?
    
    What equipment were you using and what check boxes were set?
    
    I've tried all the 'editable' boxes with what claims to be a class 1
    fax modem on the receiving end but still get 'The receiving device
    doesn't support Editable format'.
    
    Chris
1039.6RDGENG::COBBGraham R. Cobb (Telecom PSC), REO1-F8, 830-3917Thu May 01 1997 19:5610
I have  never  used  this  feature  but  I remember seeing it mentioned in a
magazine  review  of  fax-modems.   I  am fairly sure you need a Class 1 fax
modem at *each* end.

If it  still doesn't work you may want to contact the modem manufacturer (or
check out their web page).

Better still, do what everyone else does and use Email!

Graham
1039.7DSC000::CWINPENNYThu May 01 1997 21:137
    
    As I said at the beginning e-mail is out of the question. With
    turnaround times from a call being raised to an answer being required
    of possibly less than an hour e-mail is simply not up to it especially
    if it gets stuck in the ether for days.
    
    Chris
1039.8MRPTH1::16.34.80.132::slabThu May 01 1997 22:184
Maybe I'm missing something here, but why would MSFax be any quicker 
than MSExchange?  Don't both actually use the Exchange utility?

1039.9Exchange MS FAX servicePARZVL::ogodhcp-125-128-214.ogo.dec.com::kennedynuncam non paratusThu May 01 1997 22:243
I think we're all talking about Microsoft FAX as
a service in Exchange, not a stand-alone.  Or at
least I was when I made the suggestion.
1039.10DSC000::CWINPENNYThu May 01 1997 22:3314
    
    MSFax has the ability to dial an external fax number immediately, as in
    our client sending us a fax via normal telephone lines, as opposed to
    e-mail floating around in some unknown space. So both fax and e-mail
    might use MS-Exchange but more than that I don't know.
    
    Basically we need to be able to receive word documents down normal
    telephone lines using software that is common to DEC and client and
    that is MS-Exchange.
    
    As far as I know MSFax can't stand on it's own. It has to have Exchange
    there with it.
    
    Chris
1039.11MRPTH1::16.34.80.132::slabFri May 02 1997 00:126
OK, so you want to use Exchange because Exchange is out of the 
question in regards to speed of transmission.

Clear as mud.

1039.12DSC000::CWINPENNYFri May 02 1997 15:245
    
    Exchange Mail is out of the question. Exchange is just a supposedly
    user friendly interface so could we please concentrate on FAXing.
    
    Chris
1039.13DSC000::CWINPENNYMon May 05 1997 17:398
    
    Re: .6
    
    Thanks Graham.
    
    With both ends having FAX modems we can get this to work.
    
    Chris