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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1433
Total number of notes:10312

1342.0. "TV connection for old 1040st" by GALVIA::JJOYCE () Mon Dec 21 1992 15:58

Hi,
	I have one of the very first 1040STs ever shipped. It's got a mono 
monitor attached. However, these STs did not have a TV socket at the back 
like the current ones. 

My problem is, I want to give the ST to my Nephew to play games on for 
Christmass. Unfortunately most of the games round here only work in 
colour. I seem to remember that there was some kit you could buy to 
connect the old ST to an ordinary TV screen. Does anyone know anything 
about it?

I know about the colour software emulators that you can get for 
the mono monitors, but I'd prefer not to go down that path. 

Failing all else, can someone recommend some good B&W games? 
A good cheap colour monitor? 

Any help appreciated. There's only a few days left. I don't think 
he'll appreciate learning how to program in C over the holidays. 
He's only 7.

John 
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1342.1some points...BRSTR1::PIGEONAlpha = (YB)^2Wed Dec 23 1992 08:3134
    Hi,
    
    
    Not sure if you live in US or UK or anywhere else...
    
    
    In europe many TV sets are provided with a connector known as
    SCART, PERITEL or EUROCONNECTOR. If your TV has such a thing
    it is often possible to connect it to the 1040 with a SCART cable. 
    
    
    The 1040ST video connector use a special DIN plug, and has RGB 
    signals for colors, horizontal and vertical SYNC, sound , and
    Luminance for Hires mode. Pin 2 is special, it has either
    
    	      -	nothing on very old 1040 ST
    	      -	composite sync (Hor + Ver) on subsequent 1040 without RF
    		modulators
              - video composite only on 1040 ST with modulators
    
    Hence as you have no RF output (TV) you will have to use an RGB monitor
    only. Monitors for PC's are TTL (not compatible) and old monitors
    for game machines or old 8 bits systems were often provided with a video
    composite connector.
    
    
    So what's your best solution ?
    
    In some shop, you may find some RF modulators specially made for the
    ATARI, this would solve all problems at once. Pay attention to the 
    sound connection however.
    
    There are many notes about  this problem in this conference.
                                       
1342.2GALVIA::JJOYCEWed Dec 23 1992 10:5410
Thanks for the info. I remember now that there was talk of RF modulators
for Ataris when I used to use mine. It sounds like the best solution alright. 
It'll probably be difficult to get one now. I live in Ireland which has the 
same TV types as the UK. 

I had looked in the conference for similar topics, must have used the wrong
search criteria. Anyhow, thanks for your help.

John
1342.3UPROAR::EVANSGGwyn Evans @ IME - Open DECtrade -> DTN 769-8108Wed Dec 30 1992 11:1210
    John,
    	The simplest way will be to see if the TV that it'll be used with
    has a SCART interface (something like below) as it should be relatively
    easy to locate a ST => SCART cable as compared to locating a modulator.
    
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1342.4SCART interfaceGALVIA::JJOYCEMon Jan 04 1993 12:115
The TV is a bit old for a SCART interface. I guess I should buy some new 
equipment. Thanks at any rate. Seems like a good idea.

J