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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1433
Total number of notes:10312

1312.0. "FALCON and SCSCI-2" by USCTR1::LICHTENSTEIN () Mon Sep 28 1992 11:33

    Could anyone help define the difference between SCSCI and SCSCI-2?
    The new Falcon says it supports SCSCI-2. Does this mean I can't use my
    existing SCSCI drives? I have a lot of money invested in them and was
    hoping to transfer from the STE to the Falcon (and not need the adaptor
    board.
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1312.1Hopefully there is someone more SCSI literate...YNGSTR::WALLACEMon Sep 28 1992 14:0311
I have just started looking at SCSI-2 docs. It looks/sounds like SCSI-2 just
defines things that the SCSI-1 spec didn't and adds some detail to thinks that
may have been open for interpretation. It is not intended to be a new and
different disk connect :-), though it does add some (compatible) extensions.
Their (the ANSI subcommittee) intent is that SCSI-1 disks will work with
SCSI-2 compliant devices (including hosts).

I'm far from an expert on SCSI, but from what I've read you should be able to
use all your SCSI-1 disks.

	Ray
1312.2A more authoritive answerYNGSTR::WALLACEMon Sep 28 1992 14:4341
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STARCH::HAGERMAN "Flames to /dev/null"               34 lines  23-SEP-1991 12:53
                             -< SCSI-2 vs. SCSI-1 >-
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    SCSI-2 is intended to be upward compatible with SCSI-1, and for most
    purposes the two may be considered the same.  From the marketing
    viewpoint, the message is that we (Digital) support SCSI-2.  Privately
    it should be understood that the primary reason for this is their
    compatibility.
    
    Also, it should be understood that the ANSI SCSI-2 standard is
    still a draft standard, and there are no devices out there that are
    guaranteed to be 100% SCSI-2 compliant because the standard isn't
    complete.  However, after five years of work, the committee is very
    close to publishing the official SCSI-2 standard and many vendors,
    including Digital, claim to support SCSI-2 based on the current draft
    document.
    
    Briefly, the differences between the two are as follows.
    At the physical and electrical level, SCSI-2 adds specifications for
    additional connectors, an alternative termination scheme, more
    details on the cable specification, and new "fast" and "wide" versions
    of the bus.  There are also numerous changes and fixes in the message
    protocol and command definitions.  For disks, the Common Command Set was
    incorporated into the standard.  Additional device types were created.
    
    The SCSI-2 spec is about 500 pages long and draft versions are
    available in hard copy only from Global Engineering Documents,
    800-854-7179.  The current draft version is 10g, although they may be a
    bit behind--any version past 10c is ok except for the most exacting
    purpose.
    
    There is an electronic copy of the document that contains the text only
    (no pictures or page formatting information) that may be used for
    searching for specific questions.  Contact me by mail if you want
    access.
    
    Doug Hagerman
1312.3my little knowledgeUFHIS::BFALKENSTEINMon Sep 28 1992 14:527
    
    SCSI-1:  8 bit,  5 MB/sec
    SCSI-2: 16 bit, 10 MB/sec
    
    Bernd
    
    
1312.4Not exclusivly 16 bitYNGSTR::WALLACEMon Sep 28 1992 17:034
    SCSI-1:  8 bit,  5 MB/sec
    SCSI-2: 16 bit, 10 MB/sec   --or-- 8 bit,  5 MB/sec

	Ray