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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1433
Total number of notes:10312

1238.0. "The Mythical TT" by FUTURS::LLOYDN () Tue Jan 28 1992 14:08

    
    
    Hi,
    
    I'm thinking of buying a TT030, if ATARI ever import any more in to
    England as there seams to be a nationwide shortage.
    
    Anyway I would appreciate you options, compatability and other comments
    from anyone who has used/owned one.
    
    Cheers
     Nick 
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1238.1KERNEL::IMBIERSKIThe sound of electric woodThu Jan 30 1992 13:067
    Hi, 
    
    There's a feature on the TT in this month's ST FORMAT or ST USER
    magazine. I get both and I can't remember which one it was, but you can
    always have a quick flick through in the newsagent's before buying.
    
    Tony I
1238.2No Panic !!!FUTURS::LLOYDNThu Jan 30 1992 13:179
    
    Tony,
    
    Thanks for replying, but I've already read the article, as I'm already
    a proud owner of a STE. What I 'm looking for is someone with hands on
    experience of using one.
    
    Cheers
     Nick
1238.3I'd be interested in others comments tooPRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeffrey A. LomickaThu Jan 30 1992 16:224
If all goes according to play, I should have some experience with a TT
in another week, if you hang in there, I'll be writing a report on it
shortly after I get it.

1238.4TT = The very best, i Think!BERN04::KURATHFri Jan 31 1992 12:1612
    I use a TT030 with 8MB of Ram, a TTM194 19" Monitor with a Megafile60
    and a Syquest 500, Scanner and HP-DeskJet since Atari comes out with
    this machine (December 1991).
    Most of the SW I used before on a Mega ST2 runs fine and without big
    troubles on the TT. 
    The new Desktop is really helpfull, I like it.
    With the SW NVDI (NewVDI) and TT it runs about 5-10 times faster then a
    ST4. It's really graet.
    If you have more detailed questions do not hesitate to send a mail to
    BERN02::KURATH (BERN02 = 48.239).
    
    Niklaus
1238.5Information about the TTPRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeffrey A. LomickaFri Mar 27 1992 14:2254
Well, it was a long week :-), but it's here.  It's an interesting box. 
I have the configuration with the TTM195, which is the 19" monochrome
display (1280x960).  I'm using it now with Whack (which works GREAT!),
and have two 80x48 VT220 emulators open side by side, and there's still
more room to spare!

Compatibility problems so far:

	- Phasar V3 makes a lot of screen update mistakes.  (Does anyone
	know if V4 works?)  I might be able to fool it into thinking the
	display is smaller and get it to work that way.

	- PageStream works, but when I load the PSCRIPT or NEWPS
	drivers, it goes into "no driver loaded" state.  If I load the
	driver and save it on another machine, it works fine.  (Weird.)

	- My own Midi applications crashes it.  I don't know why yet.

	- MSH (Mark Williams Shell) works as long as you don't hit
	Control-C.  ^C in MSH is an instant crash.   I haven't DARED to
	try CSD.  I suspect I will probabally have to break down and
	learn to use Atari's debugger (from the developer's kit), which
	is probabally better anyway.  The Mark Williams compiler and
	linker seemed to do the right thing.

I was able to plug an RZ23 directly to the internal drive connectors. 
It required jumper E4 to be inserted.  (I got the TT with no hard drive.) 
Mechanically, there is a cover of the disk bay that seems to be
designed to prevent you from adding your own drive inside.  I ran the
wires outside and set the drive on top of the computer.

All FOUR of the serial ports are 9-pin.  Presumably PC compatible.  I had
to make my own modem cable.  Three of the four have modem controls.  The
last is data leads only.

Two of the serial port connectors are on a VME bulkhead - but they
aren't on a VME card, so you could probabally still use them with a VME
card installed if you let them dangle under it.

The LAN connector appears to be Localtalk compatible, and is described
in the book as RS422.  That would make it a fifth serial port.  (Or SIX
if you count Midi as a serial port.)

Touch-Up works great on the large screen.

The internal SCSI bus is exported to a 25-pin connector on the back.
(DB25, like theone on the back of Supra drives.  I haven't checked yet
to see of they are pin compatible.)

The monitor connector is a high density 15-pin D-sub, like the STE's
analog joystick ports.  This was a surprise to me - I had hoped to
connect my old color monitor to it as well as the TTM195.  The signals
are all there.  I may be able to make a switchbox.  I have to be
somewhat careful - the pixels on the SM194 have a 3ns rise time.
1238.6Class B, & under the developer plan?DONVAX::PETERSDon Peters, CTC2-1/C14, 287-3153Fri Mar 27 1992 16:083
Is this the long-awaited FCC class B release?

Did you buy this under the Atari developer plan?
1238.7PHASAR V4.01 may work finePOWDML::STEILFri Mar 27 1992 22:237
    PHASAR V4.01 works fine with a Montierm Viking 2/91 1280X960 display.
    
    It just uses the top left hand corner (but makes no screen update
    mistakes).
    
    Gil
    
1238.8PRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeffrey A. LomickaSun Mar 29 1992 17:428
I can't find any FCC labels on it.  The only mention of radio
interference is a statement in the manual - and it doesn't state if it
is A or B.  It is, however, a new version in a plated box.

I did get it direct from Atari as a registered developer.

Anyone have any idea how I can upgrade Phasar, or should I just buy a
new copy?