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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1433
Total number of notes:10312

957.0. "Color emulators for mono systems" by COMICS::DSMMGR () Thu Sep 06 1990 12:34

    I am very interested in getting a STacy when (if ever...yawn) they
    finally come out in the U.K, but would like to know something about 
    colour emulators for mono screen users.
    
    My current setup has only a colour monitor and I use a lot of colour
    medium rez software. While I do not immediately intend selling my
    standard ST system as soon as I have the STacy, I would like to think
    there is some way that I can run all this colour software on the stacy.
    
    On my colour system I have, at times, made use of MONOEMU.PRG if I
    needed to run some mono only software, but really useful though it is
    it doesn't produce a very high visual standard. This I accept and have
    only praise for the author of the program.
    
    I believe there is a COLOREMU.PRG (or something like that) which makes
    a mono system think its a colour system by giving 16 (?) shades of
    grey.
    
    Is this true ? How useful is it ? is it very slow ? What are its
    limitations ? Are there any other products/ways of getting colour
    software to run on a mono system ? Has anyone tries these on a stacy ?
    
    Loads of questions I know, but I am very interested to know any
    information.
    
    Thanks in advance to those who reply.
    
    Best regards,
    
    Jonathan
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957.1PRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeffrey A. LomickaThu Sep 06 1990 19:324
I have one shareware color-on-a-mono package that works, although
somewhat slowly.  Are you aware that you can plug a color monitor into
the back of the Stacy?

957.2yes... but...COMICS::DSMMGRFri Sep 07 1990 08:025
    Hi Jeff,
    
    Yes I am aware that a colour monitor can be plugged into the stacy, but
    portability being a key aim with the STacy, I was/am hoping that I
    could get away from that option, at least for most of the time.
957.3HAMPS::POOREStuart Poore, IM, STG, @BST, U.K.Mon Sep 10 1990 11:0044
>    I believe there is a COLOREMU.PRG (or something like that) which makes
>    a mono system think its a colour system by giving 16 (?) shades of
>    grey.
    
>    Is this true ? 

Yes, I uploaded it some time ago. It came off the front of a UK ST Mag many
moons ago. Who knows if it made the library mentioned in note 9. Look for
notes with me as an author.

>    How useful is it ? 

Depends on if you've got a colour TV/Monitor or not :-)

>    is it very slow ? 

Actually it seems pretty good, but I didn't push it too much.

> What are its limitations ? 

The trouble is that some 'colours' seem to go invisable in 'mono'. Also, of
course, it takes memory & also other progs I've tried seem to 'bypass'
whatever mechanism the EMU uses to 'intercept' the 'colours', e.g. XEON II
goes completely invisable on a mono screen, (but is still playable ??).
However quite a bit of PD stuff seemed to work fine. It is quite
'configurable', and you can set it up so that 2 images appear on the mono
screen at once, side by side, each screen doing a different grey scale, so
that if the 'object' goes invisable in one grey scale, it can be seen on
the other.


> Are there any other products/ways of getting colour software to run on a
mono system ? 

Dunno

> Has anyone tries these on a stacy ?

Not me, I've never even seen one.

	Stuart P.

P.S. Jon, did you ever get that disk I sent you ? Did you ever try to send
back anything ?
957.4HAMPS::POOREStuart Poore, IM, STG, @BST, U.K.Tue Sep 11 1990 08:349
    Jon, et al,
    	I just remembered I uploaded 2 emu's a while back to a machine that
    no longer exists. I no longer have a copy on VAX, although I could
    re-create it for you. The file I uploaded was GFA_EMUS.ARC. The colour
    on a mono screen I was talking about in .-1 was in here.
    
    	Does anybody have a copy of that ARC file lying around ?
    
    		Stuart P.
957.5Here's GFA_EMUS.ARcYNOTME::WALLACETue Sep 11 1990 14:245
The file Stuart mentioned in .4 can be copied from -
	OLDTMR::$1$DUA8:[WALLACE.PUBLIC.ST]GFA_EMUS.ARC


  Ray
957.6Don't work for mePRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeffrey A. LomickaTue Sep 11 1990 16:082
I tried GFA_COLOR.PRG on my UK model Stacy, and all it does is bomb. 
It's a waste of disk space, as far as I'm concerned.
957.7Did you run it from \AUTO?OLDTMR::WALLACEWed Sep 12 1990 00:304
I haven't tried this particular color emulator but the one I did try awhile
ago needed to be run from the auto folder or it would bomb.

	Ray
957.84 bombs (unknown opcode)BERN01::RUGGIEROWed Sep 12 1990 06:1119
    It does not run on my MegaST2 either (TOS1.4 in ROM).

    I tried running it from the desktop, booting the system with a disk that
    contained only the .PRG in the /AUTO folder with always the same
    effect.

    I get 4 bombs and then the boot continous. The screen gets messy and at
    the moment when the desktop should finally come up the system hangs.
    One can see that the screenbits in the memory are not in synch with the
    shifter. When running with a monitor loaded first the monitor tells me
    that it is an 'unknown operand'. Disassembling the memory around the
    fault pc shows garbage, mostly 00's with some isolated non-00 bytes.

    I haven't had the time to investigate further...

    Are there different versions?

    
    ---markus---
957.10Startgem???VINO::OCONNORPassion & WarfareTue Dec 04 1990 11:473
    How about Startgem?  I have had better success with that.
    
    J