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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1433
Total number of notes:10312

617.0. "Dialing into your ST ??" by CSOA1::FISHER (Al Fisher) Fri Sep 29 1989 12:05

    I apologize if this subject has been discussed before. I now have
    a second 'computer only' phone line into my house. Would it be possible
    to leave my 1040ST powered up all the time and dial back into it from
    elsewhere? I don't want to set up a BBS style scheme, just some
    rudimentary command line interpreter would be fine.
    
    Al
    
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617.1TCP/IPPRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeff LomickaFri Sep 29 1989 13:463
You could leavev it running TCP/IP, but that would only let you send
mail and FTP files, not use a shell.

617.2There's a third party programTALK::HARRIMANDr. Science's younger brotherFri Sep 29 1989 14:398

	If you use FLASH! (yet another third party terminal program) they
	sell an add-on that allows you command line access via the serial
	port. Check with The Bit Bucket in W. Newton MA. I have FLASH! but
	I don't have the remote port option.

	/pjh
617.3two more possibilitiesCIM1NI::POWERSI Dream Of Wires - G. NumanFri Sep 29 1989 16:0617
    RE: < Note 617.0 by CSOA1::FISHER "Al Fisher" >


       There is also a product called MT-C shell, which allows you to dial
in, and log into your atari.  It is put out by Beckemeyer development tools.
It is essentially a multi tasking kernel.  It allows you to run well behaved
software. From either the console, or from the remote terminal.  Of course
you can only run GEM stuff from the console.  It is pretty neat, and it really
works.  I had it installed on my system, and I dialed into my atari.  It uses
a unix like shell, similar to the shell in mark williams.
       Another possibility is minix, but that doesn't allow you to run tos
software.  And requires some hacking to get the serial port driver operating.


Bill Powers    

617.4TCP/IP shell?SUOSW3::SURAUFTue Oct 03 1989 06:385
    Hi Jeff,
    i am also very intrested in dial in via TCP/IP.
    is there really no possibility to use anyhow a shell command?
    Rolf (DD2FX)
    
617.5PRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeff LomickaTue Oct 03 1989 13:298
Not from the TCP/IP package as delivered.

You should be able to get and/or write a shell that would work out the
modem port.  I have often thought about trying to redirect stdin and
stdout of the Mark Williams shell to the modem port, but never got
around to trying.  My understanding is that it works but you can't use
the delete key, as there is no editing capability.

617.6SYSTEM2 will do it (it's on the net)OLDTMR::WALLACEFri Oct 13 1989 15:2110
    The public domain command line interpreter called SYSTEM2 allows you to
    use serial port (modem) for the console (command I/O). All you need to
    do is double click on SYSYEM2 on the ST and then type the command "$
    auxcon", then call into your ST (assuming you have an auto-answer
    modem) and start typing commands! Auxcon is just a shell script which
    redirects the console to the serial line.
    
    I haven't tried this but the documentation claims it works.
    
    	Ray
617.7You didn't say where.TUCSON::YODAMon Oct 16 1989 19:014
    REF 617.6
    
    It's on what net and where???
    
617.8See 9.* for Directories of PD files on the "net"OLDTMR::WALLACEMon Oct 16 1989 21:1021
    The replies to 9.0 list a handfull of directories on the net (ENET, you
    know DEC's "Engineering Network", you are accessing this notes file
    over it) which various people have been generous enough to make
    available. Usually when I state that a file is "available on the net"
    I'm implying that it can be found in one of those directories that are
    listed in 9.*. To find the files I have to do the same thing you would,
    which is to do a bunch of directory commands untill I find what I am
    (or someone else is) looking for (or search through the notes file for
    specific mention of the program).
    
    Sometimes when I have the time I will type in (and double check)
    the actual node and directory location of a file when it is asked for,
    but I don't allways have that luxury (spare time that is).
    
    In this case SYSTEM2 is available in the directories made available by
    Pat Keane in note 9.78 and Carl Lewis in 9.87. In 9.57 I made the files
    available for a short time on a system I no longer have access to.
    There is however a description of SYSTEM2 appended to 9.57 if you want
    to read more about it before copying the files.
    
    	Ray