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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1433
Total number of notes:10312

391.0. "Files transfer from St to PC. Any Idea?" by FERNEY::HUDELOT () Wed Feb 08 1989 11:16

    Hi,
    
    I have a problem with files transfer between my ST and an AMSTRAD
    PC1512. In fact, I only want to send files from the St to the PC.
    
    For this purpose, I use DFT (Direct File Transfer), a Michtron product.
    I don't have any documentation about the required protocol.
    
    Someone told me to do the following with the V24 serial slot:
    
    		2 ----------- 3
    		3 ----------- 2
    
    		4 ----------- 5
                5 ----------- 4
    
    		6 ----------- 20
               20 ----------- 6
    
                7 ----------- 7                                  
    
    It doesn't work, and I don't have any test-box. For instance, if
    I try to do a IDIR from the St (Which is supposed to return the
    content of the PC current directory), the St waits for a response
    which never comes. Nothing seems to happen with the PC.
    
    I just want to know if I'm not using the wrong protocol. 
    
    Any idea about this?
    
    \Patrick
    
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391.1LDP::WEAVERLaboratory Data Products/ScienceWed Feb 08 1989 13:3911
    Sometimes when building cables you need to drive pins 6 & 8 from
    pin 20.  The AMSTRAD may be looking for both the DSR and CD signals
    to be asserted (DSR - data set ready, pin 6, CD - carrier detect,
    pin 8, if memory serves me correctly).
    
    Also, see what kind of flow control is being used, if the Atari
    is setup for RTS/CTS handshaking, then it is expecting the AMSTRAD
    to use pins 4 & 5 for flow control.  Try disabling flow control
    and see if it starts transferring data.
    
    						-Dave
391.2PRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeff LomickaWed Feb 08 1989 14:437
Without a doubt, you must cross 2 and 3

	2----\ /----2
              X
        3----/ \-----3

if these are serial lines.
391.3LDP::WEAVERLaboratory Data Products/ScienceWed Feb 08 1989 21:548
    Re: .2
    
    But he did that, he just drew it differently.
    
    2 ----------- 3
    3 ----------- 2
    
    						-Dave
391.4LDP::WEAVERLaboratory Data Products/ScienceWed Feb 08 1989 21:5811
    If all else fails, try using KERMIT to initially send the files.
    That will tell you if the communications port is working.  If
    you have any terminal emulators, you can try copying a file to the
    V24 port on the clone, and watch with a terminal emulator on the
    Atari.  If that works, you could try reversing the procedure
    to send a text file from the Atari to the clone, the latter approach
    would require that you have some shell on the Atari that will let
    you copy a file to aux:.
    
    						Hope that helps,
    						-Dave
391.5SKITZD::MESSENGERDreamer FithpThu Feb 09 1989 15:2911
    re: .2,.3
    
    [Must use a null modem cable...]
    
    ... unless the Amstrad is wired as a DCE, not a DTE. The ST is a
    DTE, and you'll only need a null modem (e.g. "swap 2 and 3") if
    the Amstrad is too. Try a straight-through cable. The diagnostic
    mentioned in .4 is a good one -- get a terminal emulator going on
    both machines, type on one, see if the data comes up on the other's
    screen.
    				- HBM