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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1433
Total number of notes:10312

270.0. "Prob with newest VMS XModem" by RDGENG::KEANE () Thu Oct 13 1988 10:00

    
    Hi,
    
    re note 9.29 new distribution of xmodem, I thought I would give
    it a go, however when I run the exe, I get a file ident mismatch
    error message from a shared RTL. ? It looks like the Xmodem.exe
    needs external resources which are not set up the same as the 
    originators cluster, or perhaps we have a VMS version problem
                                                                                                                         
    Has anyone used this version of xmodem succesfully??   
    
    or can anyone tell me what the resources this prog needs ??
    
    We are running VMS v4.7 here.      
         
    Cheers
    
    Pat K.
    
                                                            
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270.1XModem currently needs V%!RDGENG::KEANEThu Oct 13 1988 11:4414
    re my note 270.0 above
    
    Using analyse, it can be seen that the Xmodem.exe expects the RTL
    to be version 4 minor version E. On a v5 microvax this is so, on
    our cluster at V4.7 the RTL.exe is at V4 minor version D, hence
    it dont work!!         
    So if you have probs like me you will either need the Newer RTL
    or get the XModem.exe linked to the 4.7 RTL
    
    Cheers
    
    Pat K.                       
    
    
270.2different problem with xmodemSCOVAX::MICHAELSSat Oct 15 1988 15:0411
    I got xmodem to run on 4.7 by linking all of the obj files in the
    backup saveset but I have a different problem with xmodem. In all
    the versions I've tried, I always have a problem with the 18th
    packet of ANY file I try to receive. It must be an obvious (not
    to me) problem in the way I'm setting up something. I've tried
    using various terminal programs on my ST (uniterm,st-talk,flash)
    and I always get the same thing. Any help would be appreciated.
    
    					Thanks,
    						Dave M.
    
270.3Sounds like an XON/XOFF problem.PRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeff LomickaMon Oct 17 1988 14:368
The 18'th packet, eh?  It sounds like you are have XON/XOFF enabled
somewhere.  Try $ SET TERM/NOTTSYNC/NOHOSTSYNC before doing the
transfer.  If you are using a DECServer to connect to your VAX, do a
SET FLOW DISABLE before connecting.

(17 is ^Q and 18 is ^S.  WHACK will do this if you try to run it with
SSU disabled.)

270.4re .3SCOVAX::MICHAELSTue Oct 18 1988 01:2611
    
    I just tried disabling XON/XOFF everywhere I could find it on the
    server,vax, and the terminal program (in this case UNITERM). Still
    no luck. The error message received is BAD COMP then TIMEOUT then
    CHECKSUM ERR. I've been tring to get XMODEM to run for about a year
    without any success. Since I don't have SSU (which I guess means
    no STRANSF), its back to KERMIT. (oh well)
    
    				  Thanks Jeff and still trying,
    
    						Dave M.
270.5NEXUS::MORGANSnazzy Personal Name Upon RequestTue Oct 18 1988 01:4810
    Reply to .4, Michaels,
    
    Did you break up the program into 128 byte blocks? If you don't
    you'll transfer some amount of blocks and then get timeouts.

    All programs under VMS have to be broken into 128 byte blocks before
    they can be transfered via xmodem.
    
    BTW are we speaking of xmodem ver. 3.6 which features xmodem 1k
    and ymodem batch transfers.
270.6Umm, is that like "bulls*t"? Yah, but more polite.BENTLY::MESSENGERDreamer FithpWed Oct 19 1988 20:4612
    Re: .-1
    
>    All programs under VMS have to be broken into 128 byte blocks before
>    they can be transfered via xmodem.
    
    Excuse me? This turns out not to be the case. I don't know what
    your version of Xmodem does, but the one we've got out here doesn't
    need anything of the kind. If yours does, it's a bug in the way
    it uses RMS. Trust me.
    				- HBM
    

270.718 is ^RISTG::ENGHOLMLarry EngholmSun Oct 23 1988 02:427
> < Note 270.3 by PRNSYS::LOMICKAJ "Jeff Lomicka" 

> 17 is ^Q and 18 is ^S.
    
    I think Jeff meant to say that 17 is ^Q and 19 is ^S.  But a flow
    control problem still seems likely.
    							Larry
270.8Could be the LAT...BENTLY::MESSENGERDreamer FithpThu Oct 27 1988 15:226
    By the way -- if you're using a LAT for the transfer, you _may_
    have to disable flow control manually. It turns out (I discovered
    this the hard way) that inbound ^S and ^Q are replaced will nulls
    *even if the session is set to PASSALL*. If this is what is happening,
    you must disable inbound flow control on the LAT.
    				- HBM
270.9re -.1SCOVAX::MICHAELSSat Oct 29 1988 03:364
    re -.1
    	Thanks. I'll try it again and report results. I'd really like
    to get xmodem to run on my machine.
    					Dave M.