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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1433
Total number of notes:10312

70.0. "PC-Ditto, anyone?" by RDGENG::DEAR () Thu Apr 28 1988 11:48

    Hello all,
         
    Does anyone have experience of using PC-Ditto?  What is it like
    - speed, compatibility etc?
    
    It may seem like attaching a ball and chain to an olympic runner,
    but I'd like to know as I'm considering buying an ST, and have access
    to various PC software.
    
    Thanks, 
    Jay Dear
    
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70.1PC-Ditto "user"/alternativeJGO::SMEELEThu Apr 28 1988 13:5014
    Hi Jay
    
    Yes I have (some )experience with PC-ditto.
    It works but is quite slow (except for disk access).
    What I have and works is Symphony Xtalk and some word-processing
    package .I have used all three very little but they work, including
    linking to a Rainbow and tranferring files!!
    
    For a better alternative read note 69.1 alternative 3
    I must admit I don't know anybody that has tried this.
    
    Hopefully this helps a little.
    Regards:Hans
    
70.2why use IBM-software?HLDG02::VELZENThu Apr 28 1988 14:5512
    I too have PC-Ditto, everything I have for IBM works.
    Speed is about 0.5 times a XT at 4.77 Mhz(I think).
    But why use IBM-software, everything I need is available for Atari.
    Please give some examples of IBM things you want to use, we will
    give you the atari alternatives.
    
    The only emulator I use is Aladin,for the macintosh.
    
                     Jan Willem                       
    
    (Who sometimes has bad dreams about the XT's he has worked with)
    
70.3Yes, I use itBENTLY::MESSENGERAn Index of MetalsThu Apr 28 1988 16:296
    I'm using PC-Ditto for a dBase III+ project I'm working on.
    
    dBase and SEDT for PC work great. PC-Ditto is _very_ slow, however.
    Yes, it will use your hard disk. You end up with about a 710K *slow*
    PC.
    				- HBM
70.4PC-ditto in color????JGO::MEHIGHENDRoel van Suijdam @JGO NMGV06::SUIJDAMWed May 04 1988 15:338
I too have a copy of PC-ditto but I have a color monitor attached to my 1040.
The add's state that PC-ditto can be used in Medium rez. too. But I still
haven't found out the way to accomplish just that. The doc file and the set-up
file which are part of the package do not reveal the mistery. 

Can anyone give me a clue?

Thanks ..........Roel van Suijdam
70.5PC-ditto now in colorCSOADM::MORRISWed May 25 1988 13:3410
                      -< PC-Ditto in color????>-
    
    
    
    Version 3.0 of PC-ditto is in color.
    
    
    
    
    
70.6Help - whither MSDOS ?STAR::PARKEDebate - What you catch fish withMon Nov 28 1988 13:5426
    I am looking at using ditto for access to the IBM software base
    (in particular the autpmated stock trading systems such as the
    Equalizer from Schwab).
    
    I have one question.  Where does one acquire the IBM dos or COMPAQ
    MS-DOS V3.2 to use with Ditto ?
    
    
    Also, a note of news,
    
    	The next version of ditto is supposed to be a full speed XT
    emulation.
    
    The figures I got fo the current version are, 80% for non graphic
    applications and about 50% speed for graphic intensive work.
    
    
    Has anyone encountered a list of, or experienced applications which
    will NOT run under ditto ?
    
    
    				Thanks,
    					Bill
    
    
    
70.71.25*glacier = glacierDELNI::GOLDSTEINPlesiochronous percussionWed Nov 30 1988 19:0313
    If the next version of Ditto is supposed to be "full XT speed" then
    that would be nice, but if the current version is 80% of speed for
    non-graphics, then the new one will be only 25% faster.  Not much.
    And when I tried it, I usually found it to be a LOT slower than
    that!  More like a  Norton Index of .1, though it depends upon the
    application.  I found applications that collapsed because PC Ditto
    couldn't handle the interrupt rate.
    
    MS-DOS now sells for about $100 in stores.  Lots of people do very
    very bad things, like make unauthorized copies.  Shame, shame. 
    BTW, off-line testing reveals that the Toshiba T-1100 version of
    MS-DOS 2.11 also works on PC-Ditto, but the NEC MultiSpeed V3.2
    doesn't.  Odd.
70.8{LEDS::ACCIARDITime to change this damn messageWed Nov 30 1988 21:375
    
    Cheer up.  The Amiga Transformer rates a whopping .2 on the Norton
    SI test.  And it doesn't do graphics at all.
    
    Ed.
70.9How Much Memory?UBOHUB::SHELDON_RJive Talkin' DudeMon Jun 25 1990 13:537
    
    Being a total novice at all this could someone tell me what is the
    minimum memory requirement to run PC-Ditto can I run it on my 520?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Robert.
70.10Which graphics card does PC-Ditto emulate?POWDML::STEILFri Dec 28 1990 23:467
    Which graphics card does PC Ditto emulate?
    
    I'm trying to access Prodigy using PC-Ditto, but it gets hung up
    with the first graphics screen.
    
    Gil
    
70.11Well..., hard to saySKIVT::HEARNTime will tell...Sat Dec 29 1990 15:5212
    
    	Gil,
    
    		Sorry, but my Pc-Ditto "Users Manual" doesn't say
    	anything about the graphics emulated (not that I saw any-
    	way) - it only says that "our product taps the potential
    	power of the Atari ST to emulate an 8088/8086 hardware
    	system compatible with the IBM PC".  
    
    					Hope it helps in someway,
    
    						Rich
70.12PC-DITTO emulates CGABAGELS::FELDMANJerry Feldman DTN 227-3279Wed Jan 02 1991 20:082
    PC-DITTO and PC-DITTOII both emulate Mono and CGA.
    
70.13PC-ditto also HERCULES graphHLFS00::FUHREN_PWed Feb 27 1991 10:488
    As far as I know PC-ditto emulates mono-hercules also.
    Does anaybode out there know where I could buy the latest version of
    PC-ditto. There is a version in the US which is not available in
    Europe. Is there a way of importing something like this ????
    
    Regards, Peter Fuhren
    HLFS00::FUHREN_P
    
70.14E.A. BrownDECWIN::GILLIAMWed Feb 27 1991 16:092
    If you looking for PC-DITTO I, the software emulator, try E. Arthur
    Brown in Minnesota.