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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1433
Total number of notes:10312

11.0. "Questions about SEDT" by SUOSW2::KAISER (Holy St. Asap !) Tue Apr 05 1988 07:12

During the last days I've played around with the programming features of
Anker's SEDT. This editor is great (Thanks a lot, Anker). Now I have some
questions:

What I like to do is to
	- read a file name out of a text in buffer 0
	- change over to buffer 1
	- save the contents of buffer 1, if necessary
	- edit the file with the given name
In buffer 0 there are several different file names and I want to execute this
command string for each of them with GOLD E.

My solution has been a key definition in the initialization file which
reads the file name in the paste buffer, then defines another key and executes
this second key. But how do I execute a key???

The key definition in the initialization file looks like that:

:KGA069"..<find name, cut, paste>..:1WI:KGA089'^C(:FS/%%%%F/):FE/%%%%P/.'<??>

Instead of <??> I should have an EXECUTE KEY which executes a key defined
with :K. Does someone know the solution for this problem? Or another way
to do that?


Another question:

In the modification history of SEDT Anker writes about having implemented
the :SYR command for ATARI. I tried it without shell, with GULAM and with
ASH, but none of them seemed to work. Any help?


-Hans


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11.1CURIE::SEDTLDP::WEAVERLaboratory Data ProductsWed Apr 06 1988 02:317
    Try CURIE::SEDT, there is one particular topic on wishlist items
    if you would like to add some.  There are a lot of people who will
    offer general hints.  If you really want a particular feature, just
    send some money Anker's way and I am sure he will give it priority
    (it worked for me).
    
    							-Dave
11.2CURIE not reachableSUOSW3::KAISERme again...Thu Oct 27 1988 05:565
Has CURIE::SEDT moved to another node?
CURIE has not been reachable for some days now.

Thanks
-Hans
11.3Help with SEDTGLIDE::FONTAINEFri Jan 20 1989 17:0613
    Has anybody gotten the current version of SEDT to work on the ST.
    I downloaded SEDTST.ARC and transfered the files to my ST. SEDT.TOS
    (or .TTP. I forget) runs on the ST but I'm not able to do anything
    with it. None of the Gold key sequences are recognized and I am
    not able to even exit the program without rebooting. The GSEDT.PRG
    program also does the same thing. Both programs complain about no
    ruler file but the documentation only tells you how to create one
    once you are in the program and there isn't one that comes with
    the ARC file. Am I missing something. By the way, I do have STKEY.EDT
    and STHLP.EDT in the current directory.
    
    						Andre
    
11.4I use sedt on the atariCIMBAD::POWERSI Dream Of Wires - G. NumanFri Jan 20 1989 23:5911
     RE: < Note 11.3 by GLIDE::FONTAINE >

     I use sedt on my st, when working under tos.  I do have an older version
though.  I also invoke mine from the command line, from various shells (MW
shell, and PCOMMAND) all I do is in their various startup files, I set an
environment variable sedt=c:\sedt\ and it just works.  

Bill Powers
  

11.5PEARS::BOEHMMon Jan 23 1989 02:0811
    re: .3
    
    Andre, did you rename the STKEY and the STHLP files to .TXT extension?
    These files are found by means of the environment variable SEDT
    (see Bill's hint in .4). With the GSEDT, STKEY.TXT and STHLP.TXT
    has to be in the current (GSEDT-) directory.
    
    Ruler message is just a warning.
    
    Hilmar.
    
11.6Works for meDOOBER::MESSENGERDreamer FithpMon Jan 23 1989 16:572
    I use SEDT from GEM and from micro C-shell... no problems.
    				- HBM
11.7Still no GoGLIDE::FONTAINEThu Jan 26 1989 14:529
    I renamed the STKEY and STHLP files to a .TXT extension and still
    no go. I am running them from GEM DESKTOP on a one floppy system
    so I assume that it can find the files no problem. The program still
    does not respond to any key sequences and I must reboot to get out.
    Typeing straight ASCII characters results in them being displayed
    on line one but it will not accept carrage return to enter the
    next line. Any more typeing just results in characters being added
    to line one. The cursor control keys (arrows) do not move the cursor.
    
11.8a few questions on configurationCIMBAD::POWERSI Dream Of Wires - G. NumanThu Jan 26 1989 16:0536
    RE: < Note 11.3 by GLIDE::FONTAINE >
>                              -< Help with SEDT >-
>
>    Has anybody gotten the current version of SEDT to work on the ST.
>    I downloaded SEDTST.ARC and transfered the files to my ST. SEDT.TOS
>    (or .TTP. I forget) runs on the ST but I'm not able to do anything
>    with it. None of the Gold key sequences are recognized and I am
>    not able to even exit the program without rebooting. The GSEDT.PRG
>    program also does the same thing. Both programs complain about no
>    ruler file but the documentation only tells you how to create one
>    once you are in the program and there isn't one that comes with
>    the ARC file. Am I missing something. By the way, I do have STKEY.EDT
>    and STHLP.EDT in the current directory.
>    
>    						Andre

     I will try to figure out this weekend what might be going on.  But
     first, could you answer a few questions on your setup.

     1) Where on the net did you get your arced copy of sedt from?

     2) What kind of machine are you running (memory,etc)?

     3) What desk accessories are you using?

     4) When you run SEDT from the desktop, what files are in the
        current directory, and what files from the archive are
        elsewhere?

     With this info, I will try to reproduce your problem.  SEDT is
     a good solid product (with much thanks to Anker).

     Bill Powers


11.9PNO::SANDERSBa belaganaThu Jan 26 1989 19:439
        
        Bottom line - You MUST have Ruler0.txt before SEDT will work on
        the ST.
        
        I have a 520STfm with 1 disk drive and both GEM and TTP versions
        of SEDT work fine.  Without Ruler0.txt neither work at all.
        
        Bob
11.10AhaaaaaGLIDE::FONTAINEFri Jan 27 1989 13:1513
    Ahaaaaaa. Thanks Bob. A previous note stated that the ruler message
    was simply a warning. What your saying is a bit contrary. If the
    case is that you really do need a ruler0.txt, then the question(s)
    is why isn't there one in the arc file and how do I get one. While
    we're on the subject, what did the program do when you tried to
    run it without the ruler0.txt. If it had my symptoms (program looks
    ok but does not respond to key sequences) then that is def. my problem.
    In response to note -2. I have 1meg, 1 floppy, no DA's, monochrome.
    The arc was copied from jeff lomicka's system. I also copied an
    arc from Anker's system and did a diff on the two. Both were identical.
    Thanks to everybody who has responded.
    
    						Andre
11.11PNO::SANDERSBa belaganaFri Jan 27 1989 16:3616
        Andre,
        
        I made my on arc files and downline loaded them.  The ruler0.txt
        can be the same one that is used on the VAX (mine is), ohwever it
        must be converted when you move it to the ST.  Arc it downline
        load it, de-arc it and it will be fine.
        
        SEDT has weak error handling for default files missing.  I don't
        remember what happened off-hand when I tried it without the
        Ruler0.txt, other than the function keys wouldn't work at all.
        
        When it is setup on the ST, it is a great editor.  The limitation
        being the ST's keyboard.
        
        Bob
11.12Nice try, but...DOOBER::MESSENGERDreamer FithpMon Jan 30 1989 15:4712
    Re: .-1
    
>        Bottom line - You MUST have Ruler0.txt before SEDT will work on
>        the ST.
    
    That turns out not to be the case.
    
    I *never* run with RULER0.TXT, and SEDT (both GEM and shell versions)
    work just fine for me. I get a dialog box that says 'Can't find
    RULER0.TXT', I click 'OK' and proceed. No problem.
    				- HBM

11.13ACE::SANDERSa belaganaTue Jan 31 1989 15:427
        Sorry, but it would not work at all for me.  It just set there, I
        had to reset/reboot in order to get out of it.
        
        I was/am running SEDT V3.3(241?).
        
        Bob
11.14SEDT from [...new] works...LDP::WEAVERLaboratory Data Products/ScienceTue Jan 31 1989 21:038
    The latest version of SEDT (get if from the .NEW area on CURIE)
    runs fine on my machine, other than its trying to access floppy
    0 when it first starts up.  Anker already has a fix for this which
    he will upload the next time he puts together a distribution.  If
    this is your hang, then you can simply place a floppy in drive 0
    and you should get around the problem.
    
    							-Dave
11.15Try this...KERNEL::FLOWERSHero of the Green Screen...Wed Feb 01 1989 10:406
    Hi,
    
    I seem to remember having the same problem. I fixed
    it by creating an empty RULER0.TXT file. (I think)
    
    Jason.
11.16Some troubles with SEDTANNECY::MERCIERWed May 03 1989 11:2421
    Hello,
    
    I have been using for a long time SEDT on Rainbow , very nice editor
    ( Thank you to the author)
    
    A few weeks ago I bought an ATARI ST 520 , got the ST package from
    CURIE::, but Iit does not work.
    GSEDT crashes  with 2 bombs or TOS ERROR 35 and SEDT.PRG seems to
    work , accept alpha-numeric entries but no command enties ( neither
    from keyboard nor keypad). 
    
    Of course I have installed the SThelp,key ...  .txt and copy a
    ruler0.txt from my RBW in the same directory.
    I found in the same topic that  Cache::Fontaine got the same troubles
    and he  could not fix them.
    
    Has somebody resolve it or could you get me avaible an SEDT you
    have tested on an ATARI ST.
    
    Regards 
    
11.17I have better luck downloading .ARCs then .PRGsLEDDEV::WALLACEWed May 03 1989 15:588
    I've gotten TOS ERROR 35 on a program when I download a .PRG and
    don't have KERMIT set up for the correct file type. If you downloaded
    a .PRG (as apposed to a .ARC) file then I'd suggest you download
    the ARC if it is available or put it in an ARC file before you download
    it. Of course if it was an ARC you downloaded then this probably
    isn't your problem.
    
    	Ray
11.18I will check .arcANNECY::MERCIERWed May 10 1989 10:252
    As far as I remember, I downloaded the .arc, but I will try it again
    to check.
11.19It works fine, it was only transfer troublesANNECY::MERCIERWed May 24 1989 09:595
    It works now, it was only a tranfer problem.
    Files are variable length, it is mandatory to use
    Kermit-32> SET FILE TYPE BINARY
    
    Rgds
11.20Long live V3.3 !EICMFG::BURKEJim Burke, @UFCWed Aug 29 1990 08:0326
    ....to revive this topic on a *great* piece of software...
    
    I installed GSEDT V3.3 (3.2 ?) ages ago, and it works without hitch.
    However, I have attempted to install newer versions as they came 
    available, but with zero success - I always have to double back to V3.3.
    All later versions simply crash - either the program or the system.
    
    With V4.0 (I think), I traced the problem to the File Selector which
    I use (FSEL). Since I'm not prepared to give up this Fsel, I am forced
    to stick to GSEDT V3.3.
    I tried the latest version (V4.2 ?), and the machine crashes
    altogether. Note that I tried it without ACC's, GDOS, etc., and the 
    problem persisted.
    
    Config:	Mega-2, mono, 3rd Coast h/disk, UK TOS (V1.02 ?)
    
    I just cannot get any later versions to work. However, since V3.3 is
    very robust (I have not been able to crash it), and it does pretty much
    everything I need, I am not too bothered. I wouldn't feel justified in
    approaching Anker (the author) on the SEDT Notesfile, since he 
    seems to do an enormous amount of bugfixes/wish-implementations for a
    large range of SEDT hostings.
    
    Does anybody else have this problem ?
    
    Jim Burke
11.21WPS keypad?CHEFS::BAINAlex Bain @REOThu Nov 29 1990 15:2714
I am trying to avoid having to learn too many keypad editors.  At work I use
WPS+ on the Rainbow and on VMS under ALL-IN-1.  I would like to use the 
same WPS keypad editor on my Atari ST for the simple editing of text files.

I have a version of SEDT on my Rainbow that is set up for WPS keypad editing.
I now have SEDT for the Atari, and would like to do the same.

I have looked in CURIE:: for a WPS keypad configuration/help files etc for SEDT
on the Atari but have been unable to find any.  Do they exist?  Has anyone
got them?  Has anyone done this before?

    (also posted in SEDT notesfile)
    
    Alex