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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

976.0. "YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN BABY!!!!" by TPVAX3::ROBBINS () Fri Dec 18 1987 17:30

         Before I try to pick this kitty up I thought well maybe I will
    pass it by my fellow noters first before I bring the little one
    to a foster home.  The story goes we live in a temporary furnished
    apartment in a not so great area of Nashua.  Actually I'm pretty
    embarrassed about it.  But anyway below us are these real "winners".
    They have these outrageous violent fights that now I am used to
    and choose to ignore if I can.  About in October what do I see but
    this beautiful gray and white kitten sitting in their window.  I
    mean beautiful with such a pretty face and starving for some attention.
    He or she would try so so hard to push against the screen so I could
    somehow touch him.....  Well he must not have been being a "good"
    little kitten because after a few days no longer did I see him in
    the window but when I'd go upstairs could hear this meow that sounded
    like it was in my apartment.  I thought a cat was in trouble outside
    so out back we ran to find out that now kitten is shut in the bathroom
    (not very big at all) all day with the fan running all day.  The
    noise alone would drive me buggy.  Then the routine was to leave
    the bedroom window open so kitty could go in and out as he pleased.
    Now this is a very busy part of the city with lots of dogs running
    loose and alot of street cats.  So anyway I'd come home and their
    would be little kitty waiting to play.  Gentle he was so sweet.
    For quite awhile now no kitty.  I thought good I hope they gave
    him to someone else because me fear was in one of their drunken
    fights someone would hurt the kitten.  The window if firmly closed
    now.  What do I see the other night but the little kitten in the
    back yard trying to get up in the trashcans.  The next day I looked
    better and found little paw prints going to the closed window.
         
         Today I asked my husband to innocently ask whatever happed
    to their beautiful kitten.  The answer was Oh he got lost and we
    looked everywhere and just can't find him!!!  Right and I have three
    heads!!!!  My husband said he thought he heard the kitten mewoing
    at the window last night.  
    
         I'd say the kitten is roughly 5 months and beautiful....  If
    I could I'd keep him myself but the only thing I can do is get a
    hold of him and take him somewhere far away.  God they make me
    sick.....  So I've already talked to Derry who will be glad to take
    the kitten and bring him to a foster home.  Just wanted to check
    to see if there might be someone who would want the kitty themselves.
    Plus just vent some anger at how heartless and cruel some people
    can be.....
    
                                                       KIM
    
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976.1He needs a real homeVIDEO::USHERFri Dec 18 1987 19:0310
    I can't think of ANYTHING that sickens me more than than hearing
    stories about people like that.  I say if this animal is being treated
    or should I say abused than by all means take him and find him a
    home.  He sounds like a nice cat, and I wish I knew someone who
    would take him.  Some people would say "You have no right to just
    take an animal from it's owner", but in my book these people have
    no rights.... I could go on and on but I'll only get madder and
    madder.
    
    
976.2MAGI::DUDLEYFri Dec 18 1987 20:074
    Kim,  please let us know when you've 'rescued' the kitten.
          I will sleep sounder.  Thanks.
    
    Donna
976.3Same Situation...ITSBIG::VACCARIMon Dec 21 1987 16:3429
    Kim,
    
    Don't feel so bad, I also have a similar situation where I live,
    so I know how you feel.  The people next door to me have a cute
    orange and white kitten, about 5 months old too. It is constantly at my 
    door trying to sneak into my condo, once in a while I'll let it in, 
    give him some food and then regretfully put him back out. 
    Occassionally, they'll let him in, so I'm kinda hestitant about taking 
    him and finding him a real home. They should be moving in a month, 
    so at that time I'll take the kitten temporarily (I have two already) 
    and then try to place him in a foster home. (I know they'll be leaving
    him behind, thats the way these people think).
    
    He is also starving for affection, so whenever I see him, I give
    him a pat and hold him. I am also extremely mad at the way these people
    treat this animal.  They are the most ignorant people I have ever run
    into.  I cannot understand how anyone could be mean or mistreat
    an animal.  It really makes me sick to see how some animals are
    treated by their owners and yet, alot of these cruel people have
    more than just one pet.
    
    I only wish that there were more people out there like the ones
    that write in this notes file.  It sometimes makes me feel alot
    better knowing that the people here are out there making a difference
    for some of the animals.
    
    Good luck with the kitten at your place.
    
    Erin
976.4I AGREE....AIMHI::OFFENMon Dec 21 1987 16:5621
    RE: #976.1
    
    I agree wholeheartedly..
    
    I have already put my two cents in on these types of COLD-HEARTED
    people. 
    
    Yes, Kim,  take the kitten and let it have a chance for a normal,
    happy life which all animals deserve.
    
    I would gladly take it (as I would love to take all abandoned animals)
    but I just can't.  I am already over my quota for now.  I also have
    an older dog that is starting to have some medical problems so I
    wouldn't be able to devote more attention to a young, playful, adorable
    baby at this time.
    
    Kim, let us know what happens.  It is so cold out there.
    
    Sandi
    
    
976.5UPDATETPVAX3::ROBBINSMon Dec 21 1987 17:0127
    
    Well an update::
    
    Unfortunately I think my husband saying something to her did more
    harm then good....  I was on the look-out all week-end but needless
    to say with being a last minute christmas shopper we won't home
    that much.  On coming home Sunday night what do I notice?  The window
    is open again!!!!  I'm sure the landlord would appreciate this as
    he pays for the heat.....  So I guess the kitten is back to be their
    pet....  Either Jason saying something scared her into thinking
    we were observing all this and she was afraid that we'd do something
    against them so opened back up the window.... or maybe just maybe
    someone else had took kitty in and now that he's back outside she
    noticed him or happened to see or hear him....  I don't know which
    I prefer to think that she was being truthful and just didn't realize
    kitty was out there.  You'd think that someone who had lost their
    little kitten would think twice when she got him back and maybe
    make him an indoor kitty besides the fact of leaving the bedroom
    window open in the dead of winter....  I don't know what makes some
    people tick...We'll be moving out of there at the end of the month
    and the only thing I dread is not to be able to watch over the little
    kitty....  I still would like to take the kitten away but..... 
    Now I don't know as maybe she was being truthful when she said he
    had got lost....  I'll have to think about this one as I'm not crazy
    about the environment the kitten as to live with......  
    
                                                                 KIM
976.6Help for cat *and* ownersCIVIC::WINBERGMon Dec 21 1987 17:564
    Had you considered talking to the cat's owners about your concerns
    for the cat's welfare . . . out of compassion for both the cat *and*
    the people?  Who knows, they might appreciate your taking the cat
    off their hands.  It's certainly better than stealing.
976.7Rescue not StealSQM::MURPHYIs it Friday yet?Tue Dec 22 1987 16:1312
    In the cases of both kittens (orange/white and grey/white) I think
    their welfare comes first and it doesn't seem to matter to their
    present owners how they are cared for.  I like to think the word
    is "rescue" not "steal" in cases like these.
    
    I also think if someone knows the name and address of people who
    abandon/abuse animals, they should report it to the SPCA.  
    
    Just my opinion is all.  :-(
    
    Pat
    
976.8Yup, consider it a rescueCLUSTA::TAMIRTo a cat, all things belong to catsTue Dec 22 1987 18:5612
    Well, I guess I'd just take the cat and pack him with everything
    else I treasure and move him!  I agree it's a rescue, not a theft.
    Besides, they won't even notice!  Or, you could try something like
    "Gee, neighbor, we've grown so fond of your little kitten, but we're
    moving away.  Do you think you could find it in your heart to give
    us your little one??  We promise to love, honor, and obey....blah,
    blah,....".  It might work...
    
    Nah, forget that approach, they don't have a heart to find anything
    in!  Rescue him and the heck with the jerks!!
    
    Mary (in a very charitable mood!!)
976.9MOVING DAYAIMHI::OFFENWed Dec 23 1987 16:488
    Just let him crawl into an empty box, well there could be a blanket
    in it, sort of close the box, without realizing the kitten was in
    it of course, and just move.  Once you get the kitten to its new
    home, you just don't have the heart to turn it back out into the
    COLD, CRUEL WORLD.
    
    Sandi
    
976.10TAKE THE KITTY!!!!!!FSHQOA::RWAXMANThu Dec 24 1987 12:3917
    My parents neighbors had a cat which they NEVER took care of.  My
    parents had four cats and one of them "adopted" the neighbors kitty.
    Once my mom saw him, she started caring for it; brought it to the
    vets for shots regularly, got him fixed, groomed, etc.  When the
    neighbors were finally in the process of moving, my mom hid Fluffy
    in her house until they were gone.  Now I do not consider this stealing
    at all, as it was in the best interest of Fluffy, and after all,
    Mom did pay for all of his vet care and food.
    
    Please, Kim, take the kitty with you.  These so called people do
    not deserve to have pets.  If they were moving, they would most
    likely abandon him anyway.  This kitten needs someone like you,
    and believe me, you'll feel much better for it afterward.
    
    Please keep us posted...
    
    /Roberta
976.11I AgreePHILEM::WOODSMon Dec 28 1987 15:5225
    Kim,
    
    I agree with everyone else.  Save the little kitty.  My husband
    and I have done this twice (no regrets).  Last October/November
    some people that lived nearby had two cats (one orange, and one
    black).  Well they had to move (evicted, nonpayment, dirty etc.)
    they obviously left the cats.  The orange cat was very friendly
    found out his name was Gismo not sure of the Black ones.  Gismo
    would sit outside our window in my husbands truck and meow on and
    on.  It drove me crazy.  I wanted to do something for him and at
    the same time was very mad that the people left them (but, knowing
    who and what they were was not surprised).  We started feeding him
    in the back of the truck but he wanted in.  We have an indoor kitty
    (her name is Obi) and we were not sure about putting them together.
    
    So my husband asked his parents if they wanted another cat (Obi's
    father had just passed on and we were not sure if they wanted
    a new kitty so soon).  Luckly they said yes.  The black kitty
    was not easy.  I was not very keen on people (not easy to catch)
    but we did and found him a home.  I say either find the kitty
    a home or take it in yourself and give it your love.
    
    Good luck,
    
    Kimberley
976.12INDOOR KITTYTPVAX3::ROBBINSMon Jan 04 1988 16:3215
    
    Well I must admit I had every intention of very nonchalantly "stealing"
    kitty but guess what......  Someone has decided that they want to
    make the kitty an indoor cat.  I know he's in there and the window
    never opens now at all.  I think they may have heard me speaking
    very loudly to my husband about how pissed off I was etc.....  and
    decided he'd stay in...  I'm kind of glad and kind of not..... 
    They seem to have quited down a bit as far as fighting but...  At
    least I know he's not out in the cold wanting to come in... 
    
    Oh well just goes to show there's just so much you can do.  Thanks
    everyone for the interest and concern.......
    
                                                            KIM