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      I used to have a male (neutered) Siamese who's favorite thing was to
    go from room-to-room at 3:00 in the morning howling at the top of his
    lungs...It used to drive me nuts, but we simply had to get used to it.
    
      I'm not sure there is anything that would stop this behavior...a
    possibility is another Siamese for companionship...maybe a girl??? I
    don't know if this would help, but it may...
    
    JM

    Siamese are very talkative, loud cats!!!  That's what I think of when I
    think Siamese!  They seem to demand a lot as well, like food &
    attention.
    
    

Bon jour, Jean,

I hate to tell you this, but being noisy is not a "bug", it is one of 
the *features* of the Siamese breed. It is normally referred to as being
"vocal" and people who are owned by Siamese usually consider this an 
endearing trait. I've had Siamese cats for over 20 years and I just love 
having cats that I can have a conversation with. We discuss everything 
from the current world situation, to gourmet cooking (not mine!), to... 
well, anything! 

I never heard of anyone training a Siamese cat not to talk. It might
help you to think about your cat's talking in a more positive light -- 
for example, you have someone to talk to who will always find you to be 
a fascinating conversationalist, and you can impress your friends by 
having a cat so intelligent he can talk to people.  Possibly you could 
lessen his quantity of speech by getting a non-talking, non-Siamese 
companion for your cat. It is also possible that he may become less 
talkative as he grows older, but don't expect this to happen before he 
becomes a teenager.

If your cat's talking is really a problem, you can send him down here 
to me!  :-)

Linda, Misty (sealpoint Siamese), Cubby, Toby, Tweetie, and Peanut

    I really love talkative cats!  I know it can be a bit of a pain at
    times, especially in the early hours of the morning when they start
    shouting for attention though.  Georgie isn't Siamese, but people have
    told me he probably has some Siamese blood in him because he makes so
    much noise. We have some incredible conversations, and I'd really love
    to know what he's saying!
    
    Karen (and Georgie)

    Just to dispell any myths,  I have had five siamese cats in my life and
    two visiting whole male lynx points.  None of which have ever been an
    extreme talker!  They will speak to you if you are getting their dinner
    or if they want it, and also on occasion when you talk silly to them.
    
    The whole male visiting now has such a quiet cry that it is very
    pleasant to hear.  I have seen the types of cats that cry like you have
    mentioned, but NOT ALL do this.  Good Luck! and I think you'll get used
    to it.  A friend might help.
    Karen, Ruby, Stinky, Wing, Arthur, and Goldie  (poor thing is in
    surrgery right now)

    DITTO!
    
    I too love talkative cats - guess that's why I've always had a Siamese
    in the bunch.  My first one, Ting-Ling used to walk down the hall,
    stare at the closet door (always the same one) and talk to it from any
    where to 5 minutes to a quarter of an hour.  Toward the end he would go
    into a full blown out wail.  Not to mention the on-going conversations
    we used to have.  Gino, my present seal point loves to talk and I can
    get him in a conversation for about a good 5-10 minutes.  Interesting
    thing though, my other two who were not quite as vocal have seemed to
    pick some of this up from the "mouth".  It's a kick to hear all three
    of them going on an on at the same time.  I just wish I knew what it
    was they were saying.
    
    Anyhow, welcome to the talkative world of the Siamese cat - don't know
    if there's anything much you can do to quiet them down - I've tried
    yelling "be quiet" but they just turn around and tell me to shut up!
    
    Giudi, Pippin, Gino (the mouth) & Stitch

	I have two male and two female Siamese, and the males are definitely
	the more talkative!  Tas will walk around the house yowling to him-
	self, or maybe he uses that to call the other cats.  He also talks
	back to us when we yell at him for something, like getting on the
	kitchen table :^}  Beau is usually pretty quiet until he goes to use
	the litterbox.  Then he lets everyone know what he's up to.  (Before
	anyone asks, he doesn't meow *while* he's going, but when he's
	covering it up) :^}

	Generally, their talking doesn't get excessive unless they're
	unhappy about something.  It could be that your cat is lonely, and
	could use a companion to play with.  Siamese are very active cats,
	and love to run and chase after each other - it's lots of fun to
	watch - better than TV!

	Sandy, Smudge (non-Siamese), Tas, Jenny, C.C. & Beau

    Well, I have a girl and boy that are part siamese. I believe that the
    part of them that is Siamese is the mouth. When they are togeather,
    along with forming a mutual admiration society, they literally converse
    with each other, and believe me, there two have an opinion on everything.
    I've found that when I really need some piece and quiet, I put on the
    ear protection that I usually use when I am shooting. They work much
    better than ear plugs, but make sure that you get the less expensive
    ones (which cost about $15) which block all noise, rather than the more
    expensive ones (which go for about $25) that filter out loud and sudden
    noises and while amplifying "conversation".
    
    Deb

    		
               THANKS FOR YOUR HELP I'M GLAD THAT I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE TO 	 	
               SUFFERED HERE,YOU ALL RIGHT ABOUT THAT I'LL ALWAYS WONDER
               WHAT THEY ARE SAYING,I DO TALK WITH HIM ALOT IT'S NOT LIKE 
               I HAVE A CHOICE WHEN I GET HOME HE GO ON THE TABLE AND I 
               SAID UP AND HE JUMPS ON MY SHOULDER STANDING THERE PURING 
               AND LIKING MY FACE AND MY EARS AND WE WALK AROUND THE HOUSE
               LIKE THAT,I WANT TO ASK YOU SOMETHING,DOES YOUR CAT LOVE TO 
               BE SLAP ON THE ASS ,BECAUSE MINE GOES AT THE END OF THE
               SOFA AND PUT HIS FRONT PATH ON THE ARM OF THE SOFA AND LOOK
               BACK AT ME,ASKING ME TO SLAP HIS ASS AND I MEAN "HARD" TO 
               MY CAT IS IS SICK.	
                                        	
                                                	
               IF I GET A NEW CAT IN THE HOUSE WOULD MY CAT GET JALOUSE
               FROM THE NEW CAT BECAUSE I BABYSITE A CALL FOR A WEEK AND                                          	
               MY CAT WAS MAD AT US FOR THAT TIME,SO IF I GET A NEW CAT 
               HOW LONG SHOULD IT BE FOR THE CAT GET USE TO EACH OTHER
               AND WHAT ARE THE PROCEDURE TO INTRODUCE A NEW CAT IN THE
               HOUSE.

    Gino (the mouth) likes to be patted real hard on his back side -
    actually makes him salivate with delight while purring up a storm -
    another thing, he likes to be lifted slightly off the ground by his
    tail (you know you kind of get a good grip right at the base of it and
    gently lift as if you were going to inspect his butt) Yea, I know
    strange but wonderful entertainment.
    
    Gino as well as Pippin were a bit upset when we introduced Stitch -
    there's a 3-1/2 year difference here, but after the usual obnoxious
    antics for a couple of weeks - they turned into one big happy family. 
    It just takes a little time and patience.
    
    Good luck,
    
    Giudi, Pippin, Gino & STITCH

    Don't know if this is news to feliners but cats only MEOW to humans.
    They don't meow to other cats--my three growl at one-and-other but
    never "speak" among themselves the way they "speak" to me.  None of
    them are overly vocal but make up for it with noisy paws--where did the 
    expression "pussy foot" come from? not from Chuck E Cheese that for sure.
    
    Three and me.

    
         I guess I must lucky...I have a girl Siamese I got from thise
    notes file, and she is extremely quiet.  The only time she makes the
    famous Siamese meow is when she is picked up or asked to get down from
    someplace she doesn't belong.  I think she is much, much too busy
    flying to be bothered meowing.  When I visualize her, all I can see in
    my mind is a flying Siamese - liable to pop up anywhere on any surface
    above 6' in height. Her body just flies about the house all day.  But
    when she sleeps, she sleeps hard.  I guess flying is hard work.
    We call her Zsa-Zsa the flying Siamese.
    
                            Denise

    RE:11
    
    Well, mine don't just walk up  to each other and MEOW, but
    Stitch sure has a lot to say when Pippin puts him off and gets out of
    his reach.  She'll be sitting high up in an out of the way spot to
    avoid his agressiveness (he tends to think she's a horse and likes to
    ride her) 
    Anyway,he'll be down on the floor looking up straight at her making this
    pitiful yowlling/meowing sound - we figure he's telling her he wants
    her to come back down and play - then Gino hears this and he'll come
    walking down the hall grumbeling in the direction of the other two
    (totally disgusted with Stitch - after all he woke him up with all the
    howling).  Sometimes Pippin will interject a sound or two (if she's got
    any energy left.
    
    True they don't just walk up to eachother and MEOW but I do think they
    converse.  Stitch has always had this sort of dialog when he's been
    "left holding the furrrrr".
    
    Giudi

    Be a little careful about that slapping -- cats have very fragile
    bones.
    

    About that slapping - I also had two part Siamese cats that absolutely
    loved to play rough. Hard patting on the flank was their favorite.
    
    My friends could never believe this, but they really loved it. .9 was
    the first I have ever heard of anyone else having this experience.
    
    I have not had a cat now for 8 years and am desperately trying to find
    a part (or even full) Siamese. My husband has been through 6 years of
    allergy shots and thinks he is finally ready. I don't believe the cats
    ever really bothered him, but he has had this notion in his mind.
    
    Anyway, we would both like to find a part Siamese who talks and likes
    to play - so if any of you can point me to a cat with this kind of
    personality, please send me mail and I'll look into it right away.
    
    Signe

    
    
    	Hay - my female Siamese is "normal" for a Siamese.  She also flies
    	(never walks) around the house.  She is very smart and seems to
    	understand certain commands (although QUIET is not one of them!).
    
    	Do other Siamese also cry when touched or picked-up?  Most of the
    	time Ashley will meow in a loud voice if I go by her and touch her.
    	It also seems like she wants to say "Please don't bother me" yet
    	she immediately starts to purr after the meow.  Is she stange
    	or is she like alot of other Siamese????????
    
    	My other female (older) Siamese is very quiet and shy and would
    	prefer to be let alone - unless my husband wants to hold her (she
    	adores him).  So they are all the same and yet different!
    
    	-Dee

    Re:16
    
    My guy doesn't fly around the house, he kind of lumbers with what I
    call a "John Wayne" walk looking over his shoulder as he goes.  Then if
    you call his name he starts in with these grumbeling noises - wraaa
    -wraa-wraa in a real deep voice.  He also comes out with some real
    funny sounding stuff when he's picked up - it's not a cry but something
    else intermingeled with a real loud purrrrr.  When we first got him I
    thought that maybe something may have been wrong with him because of
    all the noises he made when he was picked up - but it turned out 
    that he's just a quacker.  
    
    

    You might try visiting a local shelter.  Shelters often have pure
    breds or mixed breeds that are pretty close to type.
       

    My Korats are a lot like this.  FYI Korats are somewhat similar to the
    siamese.  The come from the same country and the Korats are the
    original cats of Siam.
    
    PITA "grunts" every time you pick her up.  It's sort of an "uh".  It's
    a RIOT!  She's also quite vocal.  Their description says that they are
    not very vocal cats.  Well, obviously they never met PITA!!  You walk
    by her and she cries.  And she'll answer you too!  You look at her and
    say, "What" and she meows.  This goes on for a good five minutes with
    her answering whatever you say.  she's FUNNY.
    
    Silver on the other hand is kind of quiet.  No grunts when I pick her
    up.  the only time she really talks is a "hurry up and get dinner" or a
    "ready or not, here I come" when she jumps from the floor up onto my
    shoulder. (-:
    
    Holly
    

    Any of your Siamese cats out there mimic the sounds you make or words
    you speak?   Sometimes I swear Gino will come close to saying "out" when
    he's at the back door or no when I tell him not to do something.  He
    also makes chattering noises while he's sleeping which are triggered by
    someone coughing or sneezing.  The more you cough or sneeze the more he
    chatters.
    
    Giudi

    My new cat Mr Miyagi is very vocal. He and Ming are both himmies
    and she isn't talkative but does "pigeon coos" but Miyagi sort of
    talk/cries all the time. It sort of depends what he wants or is
    doing what pitch or lenght this noise is. I like it (mostly 'cause
    I always have talked to my animals and with him answering I don't
    feel like such a nut when someone who doesn't know me enters the
    room.)
    
    I don't want you to think I am prejudice but Mr Miyagi is the
    light of my life since he has turned out to be my velcro cat
    and sticks to me like glue the minute I get home till I leave the
    house the next morning.
    
    Barbara and her 3 M's

    Benjamin in a 3 year old seal point siamese, neutered.
    
    He talks incessantly.  Had I known this when I first got him, I never
    would have taken him (I was so naive!) now that I have had him for a 
    year I wouldn't dream of parting with him or his voice.  
    
    When I first got him (and did not love his talking, especially 
    during dinner with guests and at 3:00am) I tried to curb his speech
    using a C.A.T. (spray bottle) and it didn't work.  
    
    He doesn't run around the house, he ZAPS across the house, often
    slamming into the walls at the ends of the apartment.  He attacks
    the throw rugs with all the zeal of an owl for a mouse.  
    
    And yes, he cries when you first touch him or try to pick him up.
    It DOES sound like he's saying "leave me be woman!", but he purrs
    as soon as he's in my arms.
    
    Your siamese is normal... that is, if Benjamin is normal 8^)
    
    dm & Benjamin

    re: .22 - Ben better watch out or he'll look like a siamese exotic
    shorthair :-)
    
    Sounds like he could use a playmate.
    

    
    
    	re: Nancy
    
    	hee hee!  Audrey too!  She loves to slam into doors, walls,
    	feet, legs....  =)
    
    	JJ
    

    
    RE:  -1, -2
    
    It's true, he really seems to like it!  (Of course, a popular
    comedian claims that they do it by mistake and _PRETEND_ they
    like it so we don't realize they're doing it by mistake...)
    
    dm

    
    	I just realized it was you dm!
    
    	I don't know if Audrey is pretending or not but she certainly
    	does it often enough.
    
    	Another fave is chasing the vacuum.....
    

    Hi Judy,  
    
    Long time no write, eh?
    
    Yeah, Ben is pretty radical, but he hates the vacuum cleaner, in fact
    it's a good way to keep him out of the kitchen when I'm cooking
    chicken!
    
    Poor thing just goes and cowers under the bed.
    
    dm

    .0
    
    Sounds like a normal siamese to  me.  Ours is just 12 weeks old now, a
    little male, with the energy of 100 kittens.  Taco (siamese) talks
    constantly, while eating, pooping, playing, chasing, etc.... First
    two weeks we had him, we were going crazy, now we are used to it.  The
    older cats are now talking up a storm!!!  Home is pretty noisey these
    days, but I've really come to enjoy it.