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    Yay!! And congratulations go to the Moms and Grandparents too! :^}
    
    Good luck with all the babies - I hope they *all* fold!
    
    Sandy etc.
    

    Give our congrats & gentle hugs to Bonnie & her new babies!! We sure
    hope everything works out OK!!
    
    Best wishes to Fiona too!!
    
    And good luck to you, Nancy!!
    
    Bonnie

    Correction.....She's a SILVER PATCHED TABBY & WHITE!!!!!!!!!!  Even
    better.
    
    I have a question for the breeders out there - He looks awfully
    light to be a red.  Could he be a cream?
      Nancy

    Nancy,
    
    That's great news! Tell Jack to slip one in his pocket when he comes
    over to the UK!
    
    Lisa.
    

    Congratulations to Bonnie, the babes, Nancy, and Jack!!  May
    the FOLD be with you!  Have we named them yet!!
    
    Sandy

    Hooray for Bonnie!  Congratulations to you ALL! :-)
    
    Pat
    

    Congradulations!!!  May life unfold, or FOLD, the way you desire...
    
    Paula, Steve, Schnapps and Rici

    I'm not sure I'm gonna survive all these puns!!!!!   ;^}
    
    re: names - well, I have to wait until their purrsonalities, um...
    
    "unfold".
    
    I have decided that we should have a "Putiput's Sundance".  Perhaps
    for the little cream.

    This may sound like a stupid question, but what do you mean by
    'fold'? 
    
    Just curious,
    Sharon
    

From:	CRUISE::NDC          "Nancy Diettrich-Cunniff DTN: 297-2313 MR03-1/N17 (Pole M19)" 26-MAR-1991 10:14:54.29
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Actually I'm at home.  I took two vacation days so I'd be with Bonnie.


re: folds -this is the third time today I've been asked that question :^)
The unique feature about folds is that their ears fold forward so they
look like they're wearing a scull cap.  They also have big round eyes
and round heads and short muzzles.  They sort of look like owls.  They're
VERY cute.  

    Nancy,
    
    What wonderful news..... enjoy them to the fullest!!!!!
    I bet they are just adorable!!
    
    Judie
    

    Congrats... to all..!!! I am sure they are adorable..
        Now a word from Happy and Preschie...
    .. Attention Furry Frienda.. The Baby shower will be held
     as planned.. Turn on your Kitty Kat Decoder Ring for
    further instructions... P-A-R-T-Y..
    Happy, and Preschie.. OH BOY Root beer and Pizza!!!!  for alllllllllll

    Congrats, Nancy! I'm so happy for you! 
    
    Debbie
    
    P.S Congrats to Mom too!

    Congradulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
              
    
    Lynne
    

I'm so happy to hear of so much bright, shiny new life in this conference.
It must be spring out there...even if it doesn't quite look it yet.

Tell Bonnie and Fiona they did real good!

    Congratulations to you, Congratulations to you!!!!
    
    
    Giudi 

    Congratulations Nancy, Bonnie and Fiona!
    
    Michele & Nippa
    
    

    Congratulations to all!  Give the kitties little kitty-hugs
    for us 8-) 8-) 8-)
    
    Jim, Tam, 
       Cleo, Chalkie, Athena, Ralph, Ebony...
         (and Rusty the Rat, too!)
    

    Thanks to all for their well wishes.  I shall pass them along
    to the new mom who seems very happy (and hungry).
    
    Just to confuse those of you who don't know about scottish folds,
    not all the kittens have folded ears.  That's why so many folks
    are offering wishes for lots of folded kittens.  The ones that
    don't fold still have the big round eyes, round heads, cobby
    bodies and short muzzles like their folded siblings and as Angel
    demonstrates, can be truely beautiful and striking cats.  
    
    "Straight-earred folds"  (sounds like a contradiction in terms) are
    used in breeding since you breed straight to folded ear cats or are
    sold as pets.  They are wonderful for the HHP competitions at the 
    shows and I may just take Angel out HHP after I retire her from
    breeding.  The straight-ear in the breeding may also be an American
    or British Shorthair.
    
    Nancy

    nanc-
    
    what happens if you breed a straight to a straight?  All straights?

    Congratulations Nancy!!!  Looks like Bonnie beat me by a few weeks :-)
    You have one more prego to go don't you?  
    
    Bernice

    re: .23 - Yes Halie is due this Sunday and is doing her usual
    "beached whale" imitation (as Jack calls it) ;*)  She actually
    seems to enjoy being pregnant and is in a much better mood when
    she's pregnant.  Guess *someone* ought to enjoy it, eh?
    
    re: folds - I forgot to mention that we won't know for 3-4 weeks
    who will fold.
    
    re: straight to straight - Funny you should ask that.  Nancie Belser,
    who is a fold breeder, asked me if I'd ever done that or if I even
    knew of anyone who had.  She was wondering if it was possible to
    get folds from straight-ears.  My understanding of the genetics was
    that the fold gene was dominant - meaning that it would be impossible
    to get a fold from two straight earred parents - like its impossible
    to get short hairred kittens from long-hairred adults.  It would be
    interesting if we found that there was something that inhibited the
    expression of the fold gene rather than that the fold gene was 
    dominant.
    
    I doubt I will ever try it since I'm not sure what I'd do with the
    kittens.  I'd have to do alot more research before I'd try it, only
    because right now it feels like I'd just be producing kittens for
    which there would be no real market and I don't believe in doing
    that.  I'd have to be very sure that the breeding served a practical
    purpose and would further information on the breed before I'd feel
    it was right for me to do that.
    

    So there isn't really a market for the ones who don't fold?
    
    Are these "given away" (adopted out), rather than sold for money, or do
    you use the straights for breeding w/ the folds?
    
    Probably fundimental questions, but to a non breeder, nothing is
    obvious. Thanks!
    
    Bonnie

    
    
    ************  Congratulations Nancy!
    
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    					Meows from Scruffy and the Dudley
                                                    Road Gang!
    
    

    re: straights - There is a market for straight-earred folds but it is
    nothing like that for the folded cats. As you can imagine the folded 
    ear kitties are VERY unique looking whereas a straight-ear just looks
    like "any old cat" to the those who aren't fold enthusiasts ;^)
    Of course, an American shorthair would qualify for that description
    also.  
    
    The market for straight-ears is with folks who love the scottish fold
    personality and either can't afford one with folded ears or already
    have one with folded ears so they are happy with the straightears.
    To my eye, the SE folds have a unique look too.  No other breed has
    those eyes.  People who see Angel (a SE from Halie's litter) always
    comment on her eyes first and what a stunning cat she is.  She has
    beautiful silver tabby markings (as does Shadow).
    
    I only had one SE out of my first litter to place and I sold her for
    $50 which is exactly what Kitty Angels charges.  I sold her to friends
    of Alice Jacobson and I wanted to be sure they weren't taking her be-
    cause she was a "bargain".  
    
    For comparison - I paid $250 for Batman - the SE father of these
    kittens.  I'm just beginning to acquire information on the role of
    the SE in the fold breeding programs.  I don't think its very well
    understood, but it seems that choosing the right SE for the breeding
    can balance negative traits - like short or less flexible tail - in
    the folded cat.  Well have to wait and see what the Batman-Bonnie
    breeding produces in that area.  
    
    Straight-ears make very good show cats in the HHP competition.  There
    was a resolution voted on in CFF this year to allow SE's in the AOV
    class but sadly it was voted down.  I'm frustrated by that because
    I feel that the SE is a very important part of the breeding program and
    should be shown for that reason.  I think the rest of CFF is concerned
    that we'll push for championship status for the SE's.  It bothers me
    that 1/2 the cats in my breeding program will never be seen.  It would
    be educational for me to see what the SE's in other breeder's programs
    look like.
    
    Oh well...that's another story.  Enough rambling.
      More info as I find it out.
       Nancy DC
    

    I hope the SE's *DO* get championship status! Keep pushing! (hoping not
    to offend anyone on the other side of the fence!)
    
    Bon

    Congratulations, Nancy and Bonnie and Fiona.  Nancy, you are going to
    tempt me so much, that I will have to make a detour from NY to MA in
    July when I visit my folks.  All those adorable folds or SE's.  I
    wouldn't mind a SE to go along with my fold.  Marnie has the cutest
    purrsonality.  If he's typical, I'd love more.  (But I have 4, I really
    can't, gee it hard to be practical when cats are so adorable)  Enjoy
    your babies.  Take pictures and send them to me.
    
    Steffi & 3M's & L

    Yes, Steffie - please DO stop by.
    
    re: championship status - I don't particularly want championship
    status for the SE's but I DO want to show them AOV.
    

    Congratulations to my little Bonnie Bonster!!  Hope that both kitties
    ears fold!!  
    
    Lots of love
    
    auntie Holly
    

    I also have the pleasure of announcing the birth of FIVE more
    Putiput kittens to Talegre Halie of Putiput on April 2nd.  I believe
    we have 3 boys and 2 girls but I won't be sure for a bit.
    
    I was a bit disappointed that we had no silvers this time.  We have
    two brown tabbies, two brown tabby & whites (One is a DUNDEE
    LOOK-ALIKE!) and one solid black or black smoke (which I think is
    female).
     
    Mom and babies are doing fine.
      Nancy

    That's great news Nancy - make sure Jack has LARGE pockets when he
    visits the UK!
    
    
    Lisa.
    

    Congratulation to Halie, Nancy and Jack!    Gee Nancy...what's the
    headcount now??????   To fold or not to fold....(sorry I had to do it)
    
    Sandy

    Nancy that is wonderful news!!!... Congrats..
    Kate, Happy( Oh Boy.. another kitty shower..) Preschie.. 

    
    CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND HALIE!  Oh boy, just in time for me to see
    them. :-)
    
    Pat
    

   Congrats to Halie!  (Is her "basketball belly" shrinking yet? ;-) )

   Let's see, I think the headcount is up to 18 now, with a total of 7
   new kitties to socialize.

   Cindy

    18 is right!!
    
    Slight correction - there are three brown tabby with white kittens,
    and one solid brown.  Also, I think my sex count is off and there
    just may be 3 girls this time.  But then, I thought there were
    6 girls in the last litter ;^)
    
    Bonnie's babies are just starting to open their eyes!!
    

    Drat, even Halie beat me to it :-) , but the doc says any day now.  
    
    Congratulations!!! Hope they all fold for you.  
    
    Bernice

    I swore I wasn't going to name these kittens because it makes it
    harder to part with them, but what can you do when the kitten tells
    you its name.
    
    Bonnie's little girl has informed me that her name is Tiffany.  I
    was cuddling her the other night when "TIFFANY" burst into my head.
    Who am I to argue with a cat.  Tiffany it is.
      
      Nancy

    after an absence from this file, i just read the message about the
    passing of tabbitha.  how appropriate that the next note contains so
    much new life!  many congrats to both moms and the rest of the family.
    
    diane, stella & stanley
    
    ("may the _fold_ be with you!"???  too funny  ;-)
    

    Its still too soon to tell for sure, but I'd say that "red"
    as jack calls him, is folding and Tiffany isn't.  Anything could
    happen tho - they won't be 4 weeks until the 23rd.
      Nancy

    Looks definite, Bonnie's little cream/cameo boy is folded and "Tiff"
    isn't.  If her current behavior/personality is any indication, she'd
    be one heck of a household pet.  She's bold as brass and absolutely
    DEMANDS attention.  Bonnie is constantly exasperated with her as 
    Tiff won't stay put.  The kittens are now so big that Bonnie can't
    lift them.  She sort of drags them across the rug to where she wants
    them.  Its a hoot!
    

    AWWWWWWWWWWW.......
    
    ;*)Bon

    Well, I guess i've about evened out now.  NONE of Halies kittens
    folded.  So out of a total of 14 kittens in three litters, 6 have
    folded.  Fortunately, Bonnie's little boy looks real good.  Also,
    I have pick of Fiona's litter and will be taking a red and white 
    folded boy.  I have also been asked to sell the other red and white
    folded boy.  
    
    Here's the final count on Halie's litter, now 4 weeks old:
    
    Brown tabby and white Female - quiet and sweet
    Silver tabby female - already eating solid food and using the box.
                          outgoing and vocal.  She's a kick.
    Black smoke female - real cutie.
    Brown tabby and white male Dundee look-alike.  He's the biggest
                        of the litter and quite playful.  
    Brown tabby and white male -  his face is going to look like
                        Shadow's I think in terms of patterning. 
    
    Tiffany is not available right now.  I think she's staying.  
    
    I'm asking $100 for these straight-earred kittens.  They will have
    had at least two 4-in-1 shots by the time they go.  If I have them
    until they are 12 weeks they will have had three 4-in-1's plus a
    rabies shot.  They will all be sold with a kitten contract that
    contains the following conditions:
    
    1. Must be spayed/neutered at the appropriate age
    2. May not go outside except on leash/harness AND with supervision
    3. May NOT be declawed without breeder's permission
    4. Must send pictures to me on mother's day and Christmas ;^)
    
    These kittens make excellent show cats for the HHP class and I'd be
    delighted with anyone who wanted to show them.  
    
    There are a few other conditions, but these are the biggies.  
      Nancy DC

    Oh, just for comparison, I was talking to Sue Ross at the last
    show in Cranston.  She gets $200 for her pet straight-earred kittens.
      Nancy

    excuse my ignorance....but I have been reading some of these notes and
    I've become very curious...
    
    What does 'folded' mean?
    
    michele (who's far from a feline expert)

    Michelle,
    
    you might want to check out .10. that gives a pretty good description
    of what the fold is.
    
    Bon

    OK, now that I know what a "fold" is....I have one other question...
    
    Is there something special about them?  Do they make a better cat or
    something?
    
    michele

    Michele -  Do you live in Mass?  If so there is a pet-care fair
    on Sunday May 5th in Concord Ma from 1-5 pm.  I will have some
    of my Scottish folds with me for exhibition so you can meet one
    in purr-son.
    
    re: special - well, I'm of the opinion that ALL cats are special
    regardless, but I must admit to being in love with Scottish folds.
    They are a type of purebred with a wonderful comic personality and
    I started breeding them last year.  They also have a very unique
    look.  The most unique thing about them is the folded ears.  They sort
    of look like a cross between a cat and an owl.   
    
    They are sweet, affectionate, intelligent, inquisitive, mischievious
    and people oriented cats.  I find them to be active, but much less so
    than a breed like an abyssinian.  I have also found them to be very
    non-destructive.
    
    For health reasons breeding is always between a "folded ear" cat and
    a "straight-ear" cat.  The latter can be an outcross to a British or
    American Shorthair.  For that reason not all of the cats inherit the
    gene for folded ears.  The ones that do not are called "Straight-earred
    folds".  Sort of a contradiction in terms.  
    
    Anyway, when the kittens are born it is impossible to tell which will
    have folded ears and which will be straight-earred.  If the kittens are
    going to "fold" that will happen between 21 - 28 days.  Halie's kittens
    just passed the 28 day mark and they all still have straight-ears. 
    Sigh.   The straight-earred kittens are sold as either breeders or as
    pets because they carry all the other traits of scottish folds
    including that wonderful personality.  There is currently no class 
    for straight-earred folds amongst the purebred classes at catshows,
    however, they can be registered and shown as household pets and they
    seem to do quite well.  They are beautiful cats.
      
    Please contact me if you'd like to know more or if you'd like to visit.
    I'm not trying to sell anything other than my love for the breed.
      Nancy DC

    
    Yes they are beautiful cats!!  Nancy, I was skimming through my Cats
    magazine last night and saw an ad for "double folds".  What does that
    mean?  The same ad also mentioned long hair kittens available soon.
    What cats are being used to produce long hair?  I've learned so much
    from this file and from talking to you at shows, I'm just curious about
    this.
    
    Thanks
    MaryAnne

    Nancy, I think a note on how extremely intelligent Scottish Folds are
    is in order here. Besides "Thai" (my part Siamese), I have never known
    a cat as quick to understand things I say or do than my "Jamie" does. 
    Jamie, as you know, is my straightearred Scottish Fold I got from Tony 
    last year. It's like he (and Thai) read my mind, which is why they in 
    particular out of my other 4 cats seem to sense my moods right away too.  

    I was watching TV last night when I happened to glance towards the kitchen.
    There was Jamie sitting on top of the table (where he shouldn't be but he's
    spoiled rotten) watching me. I pointed a finger at him and said "I see you, 
    you little Siberian Tiger" and repeated it again.  

    Suddenly he came leaping off the table and ran in the livingroom, whipping 
    by me and came up from behind my chair.  I pretended to be "oh so
    frightened of the tiger" and he played right along with me and climbed up 
    under the throwI have on chair, looking much like a "casper ghost kitty". 
    I almost expected him to say "Boo". ;-)  We played this game a few times 
    more until he decided he wanted to then play fetch with his "one-legged, 
    fuzzy, white spider".  He cracks me up!

    Pat

    I believe that the long haired folds just naturally occured in the
    Folds because the LH (long haired) gene is recessive.  When two
    short haired folds were bred together that carried that gene
    recessively, a LH fold was the result.  The original fold was a
    mutation I believe, and that first fold may have been heterozygous for
    coat length.
    
    Many short haired breeds carry the LH gene recessively.  That is how we
    got Somalis (LH Abys), Balinese (LH Siamese), and Javanese (LH Oriental
    Shorthairs).  Longhairs also occassionally show up in other shorthair
    breeds, but unless the breeders find the trait desireable enough to try
    to get accepted as a new breed or division, those LH kittens are just 
    sold as pets.
    
    Hope this answers your question.  I am sure that Nancy can add more
    since this is her breed.  FWIW, I prefer longhaired cats, and saw a LH
    fold a few years ago that I would have given any amount of money for.
    :^) She was a calico, and her ears were tightly folded, but her ear
    furnishings (the hair that LH's have in the inside of their ears) came
    out of her ears and curved back from her face.  It was so cute.  Those
    colors, the big round eyes, the cute ear furnishings made for a totally
    adorable cat.  Unfortunately the owner thought she was as adorable as I
    did. :^)
    
    Jo

    You're right Jo.  I also know that in developing the breed many
    different breeds were crossed in, including exotic shorthairs.  So
    even if the first SF didn't carry the LH gene, it got crossed in there
    on the way.  
    
    re: Double vs single fold - This is easier to show than tell but I'll
    do my best.  According to the breed standard, the adult fold should
    have a definite fold line, or crease in its ears.  Sometimes there's
    one crease and sometimes there's two.  The latter produces a much
    tighter earset and is definitely the more desireable earset.  Shadow
    is a double fold, Micki and Charli are single folds, and CC & Dugie
    don't have definite creases.  Their ears sort of curve forward.
    
    Right now it looks like "Red" - Bonnie's cameo & white boy looks like
    he's going to be a nice double fold.
     
    I like the LH folds too, but my preference is still for the shorthairs.
    If I ever get a LH in my litters, Jo, I'll let you know :^)
    
    BTW - CFF now has a class for LH folds.
      Nancy

    
    Thanks Jo and Nancy.  Hope I get to see a LH fold sometime.
    
    MaryAnne

    .55  When are you and one or two of your cats coming to another show,
    MaryAnne?  
    
    Pat
    

    Well, between Pat and I we have a full name for Tiffany and it looks
    like she's going to be a permanent member of the household.  Geez, I
    hope I don't do this with EVERY litter or I'm in trouble.  Actually,
    Beverly Hardacre was looking at pictures of the kittens and suggested
    I keep Tiff for breeding.  Well, that's all it took.  
    
    So here's introducing:
    
    Putiput's Tiffany Purrmeadows
    
    And she lives up to her name in every way.   :^)
    

    I sure can vouch for that, Nancy.  Never heard a kitten start purring
    so young.  Guess she knew she was "home". ;-)
    
    Pat
    

    re: .58 - For me the cats/kittens ARE my "home".

    
    Couldn't agree with you more! ;-)
    

    Nancy-
    
    Why Putiput as a cattery name?
    
    Lynne

    Here's the story about Putiput.  You've all heard about my first
    cat Kathryn who got hit by a car on Dec 28th, 1978.  Well Kathryn
    had a rather long name.  She started out as Kathryn Elizabeth Kitten
    but it grew to:
    
    Kathryn Elizabeth Velma Splotch Trouble Kielbasa Putiput Kitten
    
    I can only imagine how long her name would have been had she lived
    longer than 2 years.
    
    Anyway, when I was picking a name for the cattery I wanted to
    comemmorate her since she's the one who taught me to love cats
    so much.  Putiput was a nonsense word we'd made up that meant
    "cat or kitten" so Putiput it was.  I also figured that no one
    else would have used that name.
      
    Nancy

    For Sale:
      These two kittens are out of Talegre's Fiona McFee (Dundee's mom)
    and Quista Bartman of Putiput. 
      
      Male Red Classic Tabby (Smoke) Scottish fold (folded ear).  Jack
    had this little fellow purring in his lap this morning.  
      
      Male Red McTabby with White Scottish fold (folded ear).  This little
    guy settled right in as soon as we brought him home.  Halie's kids are
    teaching both of them how to get into lots of trouble :^)
    
    Both are nice chunky cats especially the first fellow with good
    earsets.  In my opinion the red and white is the better of the two
    but its close and hard to tell at this age.  They're about 8 weeks
    old and just received their first shots.  They will be ready to
    go in another 3 weeks.
    
    One of them is my "stud fee" and I am selling the other for the
    guys who have Fiona now.  They are playful and happy little fellows.
    
    Price: $250
    
    Contact me if you are interested.
    

    Well, now that I've had Fiona's babies for a little bit I can tell
    you more about their personalities.  They are VERY VERY affectionate
    kitties.  They follow me around from room to room and talk to me all
    the time.  They both purr if you so much as look at them and they
    both sleep with me at night.  I think they'll both be lapcats too.
    
    The solid red is the better of the two in terms of how good a fold
    they are.  His tail is nice and flexible, he has a decent earset and
    a nice round face and chunky body already.  If I still have him in
    August I'm going to bring him to Mansfield - that's how good he is.
    
    Contact me if you're interested.
      Nancy

    Well, its official.  Angel is Pregnant!  I hadn't intended to breed
    her but she and her brother had other ideas.  Now before you get
    worried about such incest their parents (Halie and Batman) are 
    totally unrelated, PLUS granddad is an American Shorthair and
    Batman has British shorthair in his recent past.  SO...my feeling
    is that the ancestry is sufficiently unrelated that this won't
    cause problems.  I had actually contemplated the mating anyway.
    
    Angel is due July 18th and since both are silver tabbies I expect
    silvers, maybe a golden (since silvers carry gold) and perhaps
    a black and white.  They were the best two of the litter so hopefully
    they'll pass along their good traits.  And, ANgel is a straight-ear,
    Shadow a folded.
    
    More news as it happens.
      Nancy DC
    
    p.s. I'm glad that I learned my lesson on a straight/folded mating.
    The rest of the breeders are all folded.
    

    Nancy... congrats and hugs to Angel,,
    Kate, Happy(oh good another party..) Preschie( neato.. more rootbeer)
    Kissy( ooooo.. another party..)

    I just have to tell you about our adventure over the weekend!
    Yesterday we flew to Hacketstown NJ to visit fold breeder Sue Stephens.
    We brought Shadow, "Little-little" and the black smoke kitten with
    us.  Shadow will be staying with Sue, on lease, for stud services
    which should make him very happy.  No more interruptions by mom!
    
    In exchange for leasing Shadow to Sue I will be getting a show
    quality fold most likely out of her male Panda when he comes
    back from Texas.  Panda will hopefully bring just what I need into
    my lines for a GOOD balanced fold.  Panda sires kittens with good
    tight ear-sets and long, flexible tails.  He also has a WONDERFUL
    sweet disposition.  (All Sue's cats are very very sweet).
    
    The iceing on the cake was when Sue decided to take the black smoke
    kitten out of Batman and Halie for breeding!  I have my eye on a
    gorgeous blue smoke female that I will be getting if Sue decides not
    to keep her.  That will insure that when Shadow comes home I'll have
    a nice girl for him.  
    
    I was delighted with the quality of Sue's kittens and with her
    cattery setup.  I walked into the adult cattery and the first thing
    I noticed was the smell of bleach which tells me that she keeps a
    good clean cattery!  There was absolutely no urine smell.  
    
    Sue gave me alot of GOOD advice and impressed upon me how important
    it was to develop my breeding program and plan ahead.  And I took
    her advice and didn't take any kittens home yesterday even tho I
    wanted to.  She had already sold most of her "top shelf" kittens and
    I could have done well with one of the others, but this is my 
    opportunity to bring a cat into my program that I otherwise wouldn't
    be able to afford right now.  So I'm going to wait for just the right
    kitten.
    
    Roberta - Sue has a blue cream longhair fold that is absolutely "to die
    for"!  If she didn't want it to go to California to be shown I would
    have taken her and gotten into longhairs too.  (I think Jack was just
    as glad that Sue had other plans for this baby :^)
    
    Sue is a great believer in the barter system and I think its wonderful.
    She thought my cats were excellent - and told me she was really
    surprized at the quality considering I'm a new breeder!  I have Tony,
    Beverly and the folks in this file to thank for that :^)
    
    NOW - If ANY of you are knitters out there and would like a nice
    Sue Stephens fold, she needs a knitted afghan for her living room
    and will happily trade a nice folded kitten for one.  If your
    interested, contact me and I'll give you her phone number.
    
    Nancy DC
    

    I forgot to mention - the Pilot was JACK, I was the navigator and
    Jack's mom and sister came along for the ride.  On the way back
    we "Buzzed the lady" in NY harbor.  I've never gotten to see the
    statue of liberty "in person".
      What a day!  I have videos of Sue's kittens too if anyone is
    seriously interested in a kitten of hers.
      Nancy

    How exciting, Nancy!  Good thing Sue had plans for that blue-cream
    girl!  :^).
    
    Shucks!  I can't knit!  Hmm, perhaps by the time I learn and finish the
    project it really will be time (in my husband's eyes!) for another
    cat!!
    
    I'll miss Shadow, but I'm sure he can't wait to start his studding
    services at Sue's.  Keep us posted on your new babies when you get
    them.  And I agree... waiting is hard, but good things come to those
    who wait!
    
    --R.
    

    I'll miss Shadow too, but its only a lease and he'll be back someday
    soon.
      N
    

    Kittens still available:
    
    2 brown classic tabby with white boys (one is going to be a big
     and beautiful fellow) - straight-ears.  $100 each
    1 brown classic tabby with white girl - she's going to be a little
     one but she holds her own and then some with the bigger boys.
     (straight-ear)  $100
    
    1 shaded cameo with white folded boy.  $250
    
    
    Nancy

    I got some extended pedigrees from Tony yesterday on Dundee-mommycat's
    Father, Kitjim's Billy 2 Bob of Framor.  I was delighted to see that
    its traceable back to "Snooks" who was one of the original folds
    imported into this country and who is daughter of "Suzie", the
    original Scottish fold.
    
    So anyone with a kitten from Bonnie Bairn or Halie can now trace that
    kittens lines directly to Suzie from Scotland.
    
    :^)
    
    Nancy
    
    p.s. I can't even trace my own pedigree back 1 generation but I can
    take my cats back many generations ;^)

    >p.s. I can't even trace my own pedigree back 1 generation but I can
    >take my cats back many generations ;^)
    
    I wonder if that makes me a "moggie"?
    

>    >p.s. I can't even trace my own pedigree back 1 generation but I can
>    >take my cats back many generations ;^)
>    
>    I wonder if that makes me a "moggie"?
    
well, if my family's experience is any indicator, it may be best.  My great
aunt spent one whole summer tracing the family tree...and decided she just
DIDN'T want to know any more.  What she discovered:

	on my father's side, I am descended from Oscar Wilde (yup - he did
		have children)...of course, Oscar was arrested for being
		openly homosexual in England which was against the law at
		the time (most folks think he was arrested only because his 
		accused lover at the time was from one of the noble families)

		while I am quite proud of the connection - he was a great
		writer and social satirist - Aunt Maude was just a little 
		shocked.

Then she discovered that HER side of the family included several criminals,
a military deserter (German, WW I), and then there were the, ah, "children
from the wrong side of the blanket" ....a gentle way of saying they were
the progeny of unmarried mothers.  That's when Aunt Maude threw up her hands
and decided she didn't want a family crest after all.  She didn't even get
to the slave trader ships captain....

We are all "moggies" and proud of it!

    Hmm....  maybe I am better off not knowing - tho being the product
    of an "out of wedlock" pregnancy, I don't think I could stand in
    judgement of anyone else :^)
    

    Well, I don't remember where the birthday note so I'm going to
    enter this here.
    
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR  CC, SHADOW, CHARLI, DOOGIE, MICKI, ANGEL, 
       BONNIE II AND ISIS
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
    
    CC, SHADOW, CHARLIE, DOOGIE, MICKI, ANGEL and BONNIE II were 1 year
    old on Saturday and Isis was 7 years old on Saturday.
    
    
    Doogie threw a birthday party and invited all his brothers and sisters.
    He was quite dismayed when the brothers and sisters that showed up were
    NOT the ones from his litter.  Well, CC came and even mommy had trouble
    telling them apart from the front.  Micki was there.  CC insisted
    on bringing 5 kittens with her and they were good little boys and
    girls.  They settled right in, eating any food they found, playing
    in the plants, ignoring the "Dragon" (Kelly, the older golden
    retriever) and generally being "Cute".  They even wore party hats
    with better graces than Doogie and Micki.  (CC was a good sport about
    the whole thing)  After that indignity, Doogie and Micki went upstairs
    and grumbled to each other for a 1/2 hour on top of the waterbed.
    
    Auntie Pat came over too and we all had a great time playing "pin the
    tail on the mousie".
    
      Nancy DC
    

    Personally, my favorite part of the party was the "home movies".
    We had videotape from the actual birth up to the party.  Only about
    25 mins worth but it was great!
      Nancy

Well, my favorite time at the party was watching those adorable babies 
playing and having such fun.  They made themselves right at home and 
investigated everything. 

CC was so cute the way she called to the kittens and "mothered" them.  She 
even called them to come to the video room and watch the film with us.

Micki demonstrated his favorite sitting position (on the rug as well as on 
a glass table), Tiffany tried her "paw" at playing the piano, Halie's two 
brown/white tabby boys, Lil' lil, Sunny, & Tiff learned how to play "chase
the pretty marbles", and Doogie checked out all these "new kids on the 
block" and walked around like "Mr. Cool".  

After the kittens would wear themselves out playing they'd take quick "cat 
naps" and you could find one on a chair, one on a glass table, one or two 
curled up in one of their carriers, and another on a rug.

I wish you could have seen the table setting.  Balloons, kitty party favors
and paper plates with kitty pictures.  The party hats were adorable and 
Nancy, you have a real craft there.  "Putiput's Party Hats for Kitty 
Birthdays."  ;-)

The food and company were GRRRREEAAT (as a certain tiger would say)! :-)

Pat

    Well, it looks like Shadow will be coming home a little earlier than
    I had expected.  Sue has decided to take a break from breeding and
    is selling off all her straight-earred girls.  I am VERY disappointed.
    To make up for my not getting my kitten from the lease agreement,
    Sue is sending Panda up to me for a while when she gets him back
    from Florida.  I would have gotten a Panda kitten anyway.  This
    way I'll gets lots of Panda kittens :^)
    
    THink I'll enter Shadow in Mansfield.
      N
    

    It'll be good to see Shadow again, Nancy.  Dandy and I are looking
    forward to Mansfield! ;-)
    
    Pat, Holly, D.P., Thai, Buffy, Jamie, Midnight, Dandy (& Cookie)
    

    I will definitely be at the Peabody TICA show with kittens for
    sale if anyone is interested in seeing them.  I"ll have all four.
    
    Geez, I'd better sell them soon.  They're 3 months old now and
    I'm getting VERY attached to them. 
    
    FYI they've now had 3 four-in-one shots and a rabies shot.
      Nancy

    Still available for sale:
    
    Male Brown classic tabby & white, straight-ear fold now named
    "Mayday" after Sam Malone (aka Mayday Malone) on Cheers.  Mayday
    is a very handsome fellow and is turning out to be quite mellow
    in new situations.  He just hung around and purred at the TICA 
    show so he'd probably make a great cat for showing HHP.  He's
    going to be a big boy.
    
    Oh - lately Mayday's favorite game is bite-the-toes at 3:00 am!
    I think they're starting to teethe.
    
    Male shaded cream and white, folded-ear (sort of  ;^) who's been dubbed
    Sunny (Sundance).  He's a sweetie who frequently sleeps in my lap.
    

    ANNOUNCING THE BIRTH OF THREE NEW PUTIPUT FOLDS!
    
    Angel had her first litter last night (Sunday) between 5:00 and
    9:30 pm. (Poor baby, it was SO hot)   She went into labor around
    5:00 and had her first baby (FINALLY!) at 6:45.  Just under the
    wire.  (The book says if 2 hrs of hard labor has not produced
    a kitten, call the vet).  Two more followed within about the
    next 2 hrs or so.
    
    I don't know about sexes yet but for colors we have one all black
    (that was the first born), one silver tabby and one silver tabby
    and white.  Angel was pretty aggitated for a while there, but
    once instinct kicked in she was fine.
    
    Nancy DC
    

    Welcome to the new Putiput babies!!!!!
    Kate, Happy( this calls for PIZZA), Preschie( .. and rootbeer)..
    Kissy ( oh boy ,, babies..)

    And I KNOW I heard Angel on the phone to *THE FIRM* this morning.
    Something about a lady-in-waiting, a nanny AND a governess being added 
    to the contract!  These Putiput folds are smart!
    
      Nancy

    Happy Birthday, kids!  Good job, mom!  Good coaching, Nanc!
    
    Nancy C, Bear, Zuzu Petals and Suki (the Imperial Stormkitten)

    RE: .85
    
    And I understand that you will be required to set up a TRU$T FUND for
    each little darling, too. The FIRM thinks of everything.
    
    Deb

    Next she'll be writing her memoires and I'll be begging for
    my percentage of the royalties!  ;^}
    

    Nancy-
    
    As her manager, you should get at least 15% of the
    profits! :-)
    
    L

    re: .89 - What profits?     :^)
    

    RE: .88
    
    If you read your contract closely, I believe you will find that you
    owe her a "publicity fee" for the brief mention of your name in the
    soon-to-be-published memoires.
    
    Deb

    re: .91 Well, if Angel's behavior of late has been any indication 
    she's going to go for everything to which she's entitled!
    
    This probably should have been in the note about hiding places -
    I thought we had reached a compromize where she was going to 
    keep the kittens in the kitty-condo but when Jack arrived home
    yesterday he couldn't find Angel or one of the kittens.  She had
    taken it UNDER THE FREEZER!  Jack had one heck of a time getting
    it and Angel yelled at him the entire time.
    
    This morning they are in a tokyo cage!  End of arguement.
    
    BTW - I'm fairly sure that all three are males.
    

    Well, the star has returned.  Putiput's Silver Shadow is back in
    the cattery and seems to know he's home.  It's nice to have him
    back :^)
    
    Also returned is the little black smoke kitten who was dubbed
    "Raisinette" by Sue Stephens' daughter.  Raisinette is love!
    Just purrs up a storm and asks to be let out of the cage constantly.
    
    Also, new to the cattery is Marmalade - a cream straight-ear who
    will be Shadow's girlfriend in a few months.  She's a very very
    lovely, sweet girl. 
    
    Little Raisinette will be available for sale after a 3 week isolation
    period.  Since she's just returned from another cattery i'm taking
    precautions with her (and the other two).  I want to be sure they're
    100% healthy before they go anywhere else.
    
      Nancy DC
    

    We had a very cute little interaction last night.  I openned the
    cage for Shadow (its in the livingroom and he seems extreemly
    content with the location) and Angel to say hello.  CC came over
    and all three of them touched noses in a little kitty reunion.
    (They are littermates)  There is obviously some affection there.
    It was really touching.  
    
    I think people with a single cat do miss something because they don't
    get to watch the cats interacting with each other.
    I could watch for hours.
    

    Announcing the birth of Bonnie's second litter.  She had FOUR kittens
    last night (I got to be around midnight - yawn).  Personally I thought
    she pulled a magic act there because she wasn't that big.  I don't know
    where she had the other two.  I was expecting only two kittens!!
    
    Now this presents an interesting pattern:
    
    6/22/90 Halie had seven kittens
    
    3/26/91 Bonnie had 2, 4/2/91 Halie had 5 = Seven kittens
    
    7/21/91 Angel had 3,  8/28/91 Bonnie had 4 = seven kittens
    
    7 7 7  I think I see a pattern!!
    
    
    Bonnie had a cream and white boy, a calico girl (mostly white with
    spots of cream and black), a silver and white and a black or
    black/smoke and white ?girl? who is going to be a real  pretty baby.
    
    Mom and babies are doing fine.
    

    Congratulation to Bonnie...she's been a busy Mom this year!!
    The babies sound beautiful....and I'm sure your already attached!!
    
    Sandy

    Ya, it doesn't take long.  :^)
    

    Congrats to you moms!!
    
    Oooooh! They must be soooo cuuuUUuuuUUUuuute!
    
    Bon

    Thanks to all.
    
    The little silver & white boy (?) is doing just fine this morning.
    Guess he just got a slow start but is making up for lost time.
    

    
    Oh - and Jack and I are healing too.  Bonnie chomped both of us
    but good during the delivery of her first kitten.  I figure she's
    entitled.  I'm sure she was in pain.  
    
    It really shows me tho that the damage from a cat bite is NOT in
    the puncture itself but in the soft tissue damage that is done to
    the area surrounding the punctures.  Something to keep in mind if
    you're ever dealing with a cat bite either in yourself or in your
    pet.
    

    I'm so glad it worked out for the little one. I hope Bonnie is feeling
    better, as well as you & your husband! Gee, it sounds like you ALL had
    your share of trouble w/ this one!
    
    Best wishes!
    Bonnie

    Congratulations on the new babies and I happy to hear that the little
    guy is doing OK!
    
    G

    Well, this past weekend definitely does NOT qualify as one of my
    best.  First I took a dive off of Abe (the horse I ride) and landed
    on my ribcage (and my head, but I wear a hard helmet).  I thought
    for sure something was broken but the x-rays say otherwise.  Geez,
    rib injuries hurt!!!  You have no idea how much you use the muscles
    through that area just in maintaining balance.
    
    Anyway, Lynne was good enough to drive me home since I'd ridden
    my scooter down to her place, and we discovered that the little
    silver and white boy had died.  Actually, I don't think he was quite
    gone when we found him, but there was nothing we could do.  
    
    It took me a few hours before I'd finally admit that he was really
    gone.  I laid him out in a little box and put some african violet
    flowers in the box with him.  Then Jack dug a hole in the back yard
    near some bushes and we laid him to rest.  
    
    I felt so bad for the poor little guy.  Especially when I go in and
    watch Angel's three who are now 6 weeks old and playing.  I've prayed
    that this little guy will get another chance and will be re-born in
    some future litter in a healthy body.
    
    Since I had so much trouble getting this little guy started, I can
    only conclude that he had some physical problems.  Perhaps it is a
    blessing to lose him now and not at 3 or 4 weeks when I'd gotten
    attached.  Perhaps that's a selfish attitude and maybe I"m just
    trying to make myself feel better.  I keep worrying that I didn't
    pay enough attention to the litter.
      Nancy
    

    Clarification - Abe doesn't have a nasty bone in his body.  I was
    trying some new boots (that don't work) and my foot slipped out of
    the stirrup while we were trotting.  Since it was a nice cool day
    and Abe *LOVES* to be ridden, he didn't stop immediately when I
    pulled him up.  I lost my balance and got bounced right off the
    side.
    
    Lynne said I should have seen the look on Angel's face (her registered
    quarter horse) and the dance he did to avoide stepping on me.
    (Thanks Angel!!)  Tho, I don't think I would have noticed at that
    particular moment.  I was trying to breathe!
    
    Anyway, just as soon as I can pull myself back up I"ll be riding
    again.  And NOT in those boots.
    

    So sorry to hear about your little boy.  Nancy I'm sure you did
    all you could to try and save this little sweety!  The little
    baby is near god and the rest of our kitties who will take very
    good care of him!
    
    Also...sorry to hear you had one heck of a weekend.  Hopefully
    you bruises will he healed soon.
    
    Sandy

    A tear rolled down when Nancy told me the little guy didn't make it...
    I helped her try to save him (well, I held him with my eyes
    tightly shut while she injected him with the meds....I'm such
    a coward (-;)   I did get to meet all the babies, tho'.  They
    all wanted a share of attention....and I almost made it out the
    door with Tiffany disguised as an egg bagel, but she gave herself
    away with her purring....(-;
    
    Nancy couldn't wait for some cool fall weather riding....it makes
    the horses want to go, go, go....which Nancy has now found out to
    be true!.....
    
    Lynne
    	

    Nancy , I am sorry to hear about your little boy... and I hope
    your ribs heal soon..
    Lynnem,, hey I like that idea.. trying to disguise kitties as
    food to cat nap them out of the cattery. hehehheheheheh,, hmmm..
    hmmm,, hmmmhmmmmm..
    Kate

    Yes, I did find a purring bagel to be a bit suspicious.
    
    N
    

    sorry to hear about the poor little guy.  It's nature's way of handling
    the newly born who have real physical problems to just let them go
    early.  Hopefully, his little soul will have another chance.
    Your horse fall brought back some memories, when I was a teen I had a
    heck of a fall off a horse, bruising my ribs terrible, and getting some
    good deep puncture wounds.  It's actually kind of a funny story in that
    I was with a group of people on horseback walking calmly through a
    field, when a loose dog just happened to pick my horse to nip the heels
    of.  He reared up and took off, sending me flying when he took a sharp
    right to avoid a boat.  Yes, a boat!  Picture this huge field of soft,
    nice grass, and in it was a boat turned upside down with the nice hard
    jagged engine parts sticking so nicely up in the air.  Out of all the
    unimaginable square feet in that field,  I fall on the one and only
    hard object, a boat yet!!!  Never did quite live that one down.  But,
    despite my rather severe bruises,  I was back the next day.  But wowwww
    was I sore!
    
    Denise

    Re .108
    
    Of course, I wouldn't have minded if "Marmalade" came
    along with those bagels...(-;
    
    
    Lynne

    Ya, Marmie sure is a sweetheart.   She's filling out nicely and
    her coat is coming back in to condition.  She's thoroughly enjoying
    being a "pet cat".  I think the next time she comes into heat I'll
    put her back to work ;^)  I know Shadow will be happy.  
    
    Marmie is Mar-dee's Marmelade.  She's a cream straight-ear who came
    to me from Sue Stephen's cattery.  She's Shadow's lady.
    

    I just wanted to mention that Sundance is still with us and still
    available for sale.  He'll be six months old on the 26th so if I 
    don't sell him soon I'm going to have to pay for a neuter.  The
    original price was $100 because his ears are up but "make me an offer".
    
    Sunny is a pretty cream and white boy with topaz eyes.  He's VERY
    playful and comical.  In my house he isn't much of a lap cat but
    I noticed that when Tiffany and Tina are in the cattery he'll
    seek me out for attention.  I suspect that he'd be much more people
    oriented in a household with fewer cats to "distract" him.
      Nancy
    

    Well, it's week four and the little cream and white boy of Bonnie's
    is folding.  Looks like the black smoke and white girl and the
    calico "teddybear" (she's so round and fuzzy) will be straight-ears.
    
    Nancy
    

    Well, Putiput's Sundance is visiting Dr. Harris this morning for
    "the operation".  He's just a tad over 6 months old and normally
    I'd prefer to wait longer but as Jack puts it "He knows he's a man".
    He keeps grabbing his sister by the back of the neck.  She puts up
    with it for about 10 seconds and then rolls over and swats him one.
    Its as if he grabs her and then can't figure out what to do next.
    It's really quite comical :^)
    
    Angel and Shadow taught me my lesson about brothers and sisters.
    
    I always get so nervous when any of my babies have surgery, regardless
    of how mild it is.
      Nancy
    

    FOR SALE:    SCOTTISH FOLD KITTENS
    
    Silver Tabby w/white male show quality kitten out of Putiput's
           Silver Shadow and Putiput's Angel Eyes.  He's the spitting
           image of his dad.  Seems more outgoing and less shy than
           Shadow.  I'm asking $400.  He's about 14 weeks old now and
           has had three 4-in-1's and a rabies shot.
    
    Cream Tabby w/white male pet quality kitten out of Talegre Bonnie Bairn
          of Putiput and Quista Batman of Putiput.  9 weeks old.  VERY
          affectionate and playful.  $250   
    
    Black smoke w/white female straight-ear out of Talegre Bonnie Bairn
          of Putiput and Quista Batman of Putiput.  9 weeks old.  VERY
          affectionate and playful - a real lapcat.  $100  
          She's got the cutest little splash of white up her face.
          
    And...there's still Sundance who gets more beautiful every day.
          7 months old, male , neutered.
    
    

    I am happy to announce that the Silver Tabby and white (Quick Silver),
    the cream and white boy and the black smoke and white girl have all
    been sold.  The brother and sister went together :^) to their new
    home and Quick Silver is now living with Putiput's Flyer McDoogal.
    Doogie was "not amuzed" and has been having a royal snit since
    Silver's arrival but I'm sure Doogie will soon remember what kittens
    are for and things will be fine.  
    
    In the mean time, Ava intends to show Quick Silver in Andover so
    if you want to see him you can.
      N
    

    I don't remember where the birthday note is so I'll put this here.
    
    
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO BUMPY-TAIL!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Bumpy turned FOURTEEN years old on Nov 10th and has been with me
    for 12 of those years.  She looks about seven years old as anyone
    who's seen her will attest and is just as sweet, spunky and wonderful
    as ever.  And still sleeps on her face!   
    
    I hope she'll share another 12 years with me and Jack.
      Nancy

    Happy Birthday Bumpy-Tail!  You're lookin' pretty good for an old
    coot!
    
    :-))))))
    
    The young whippersnappers -- Bear, Zuzu, Cyrano, and Suki
    
    and of course,  Nancy

    Happy Birthday...........!!!!!!! many many many more..
    Kate, Happy( oh boy party time) Preschie( Happy Birthday..)
    Kissy( hey neato.. another party..)

    Happy B'day Bumpykins!!!!!