Conference misery::feline_v1

    Jennifer, how old do you think the kittens are?  Can you post a
    description of them and the mother?
    
    The Framingham Animal Humane Society might be able to help, or can
    refer you to someone who can.  Unfortunately, I don't have the number
    with me, and know the shelter is full but maybe there are foster homes. 
    They are located on Oregon Road in Southboro if you want to call
    information for the number.
    
    This is really upsetting to me.  There have been some people in here
    looking for kittens so maybe a description of all would help to place
    them.
    

    Please call the MSPCA today.  It is getting very cold out again
    and is suppose to snow Thursday.  I wish I could take them but I
    can't.  I wish someone would leave that kid outside without food
    and shelter for the next three days and see how he likes it!
    
    L&F

    Roberta's suggestion is a good one. I believe the Framingham Humane 
    Society number is 875-3776. There is a person named Nancy Hudson
    who also lives in Hudson, MA who most likely can help you as she is
    heavily involved with the Fram. A.H.S.
    Pat                                      
    
    (I got that # out of an old phone book). 
    

    
    The mother was an orange tabby, and from what I could see the kittens
    looked to be about 8-10 weeks, maybe younger.  The one kitten that
    I saw the most of, was gray, and very fluffy...
    
    I'm calling the Humane Society right now.  Wish me luck.

    Good luck, and please report back with info!
    

    
    
    
    
    			AAARRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!
    
    
    
    And I sometimes wonder why I love animals more than most people ?????
    
    Something like this always reminds me why............
    
     Sandi and the Storm Troopers
    
    

    This story is so sad.  Good luck and hopefully these kitties will
    find homes.  I'd like to hang the person that dropped off the
    prego cat....that makes me sick.
    
    Please keep us posted.
    
    Sandy
    
      

    
    
    Just a quickie update...I am getting nowhere.  I tried the 875 # that
    was listed in an earlier reply, no answer, so I checked with
    Directory assistance, and they have no listing for the Framingham
    Animal Humane Society in Framingham, or Southboro, as the reply
    stated. So, in desperation, I called the MSPCA hotline and he referred
    me to the Worcester Animal Rescue, and maybe I am being overly
    sensitive about this whole situation, but they weren't very helpful,
    the girl who answered just told me to contact a local shelter, or
    bring them there M-Sat from 8-4:30...
    
    I am willing to do whatever I can to help these cats.  It might be a
    tricky getting them into the car, I'm sure they are afraid of people,
    (although they were coming right up to cars last night), I'll
    bring them anywhere, even pay for their food, I just want to get them
    out of that !@#$ parking lot...
    
    Any other ideas?

    
    Another dead end...just tried the Lancaster Shelter, they are closed 
    for 3 weeks due to renovations...
    
    ARRRRRGGHH>
    
    

    You could perhaps lure them into carrying cases in your car with
    tuna?  Or leave them some food and water if you can't find a
    place for them soon?
    

    The Framingham Humane Society has no number - that is, it
    is run by the animal control officer, and the cats are
    boarded in foster homes.  One of the noters is a foster home.
    The # for the officer is 508-620-4870.
         
    I have a love/hate relationship with these type stories....
    I love to help, but the idea that they are starving and
    left out in the cold by some @%*(%^% bothers me for days....
    
    Lynne

    
    
    
    Was just given the number to the Framingham Humane Society, by the
    620-XXXX, that person then referred me to another number, 877-0408,
    and there is no answer...I'll keep trying.
    
    

    
    
    	Re: 
    	.0
    
    	I may have a solution.  I volunteer for the Humane Society
    	here in Nashua.  I just called Michelle, the director and asked
    	if you were able to catch the kitties, if they would take them
    	and she said yes.  If you want, maybe someone closer to you
    	can help you catch them, then you and I could meet somewhere
    	in between and I could bring them to the shelter for you, if
    	you don't want to drive that distance.
    
    	Send me mail if you want or you can call me at DTN 381-2253.
    	I just dread the thought of those babies being out in this
    	cold with the snow coming.
    
    	JJ
    

    
    I also saw them the other night. I tryed to get close to them, but they 
    were too afraid to come close. I went into Burger King and got some
    water for them. I also went to Victory and got some food and left it
    for them. I couldnt get close enough to them, but it looks like there
    are at least 4. The mother appears to be an orange tiger. There was
    also a grey kitten and I also saw a black long hair cat. I know there
    was another one but I couldnt see him/her. I presently have a stray cat
    in my spare room, who I picked up the other day. She clearly has worms
    and is very under nourished. I could possibly take these cats
    (TEMPORARILY) if someone would find them a place ASAP. I cant have
    anymore cats as I am not even supposed to have cats in my apartment.
    But I cant stand the thought of those kittys outside in this weather.
    If someone could help me catch them, I could take them until the
    weekend. I live in Marlboro and work in Hudson. Please let me know if
    anyone needs my help...I'd be glad to help!
    
    Lee

    I know someone that *might* be interested in adopting a kitty if they
    were dropped off at the Humane Society in Nashua.  My mom has been
    "toying" with the thought of adopting a kitten AND her favorites are
    GRAY and FLUFFY, so if one of the kittens fits the description we might
    have a deal.  Please keep us posted as to the whereabouts of these
    kitties and how the situation is going!!
    
    Good luck,
    Beth

    
    
    Well, myself and another noter are heading over to BK around 5 to
    try and save these kitties, the Humane Society in Nashua has
    agreed to take them, (Thanks JJ!).  Judging from .14's reply,
    its going to be tough catching these little buggers, anyone
    have any experience??? I plan to bring cans of cat good and tuna,
    something strong smelling to lure them over.  
    
    Any other ideas?
    
    

    
    	re: .14
    
    	From the sounds of it one of these babies might fit the
    	bill but keep in mind that they have most likely not
    	had any human contact and may be hard to calm down.
    	Your best bet would be to call the Humane Society directly
    	a few days after we bring the kitties in.  They will be
    	'in quarantine' for at least 10 days anyway.  But I hope
    	your mom can take one of them!
    
    	Provided of course Jen and the other noter (who are you?
    	speak up so we can say thanks! =)  ) can catch the little
    	buggers.
    
    	Jen, I'd send mail to Nancy DC, CRUISE::NDC just in case
    	she doesn't get a chance to read your note.  She's
    	caught many a feral cat and would definitely give you
    	some ideas!
    
    	JJ (who hopes to see you tonite)
    

    Here is a technique that worked for me in catching feral kittens:
    
    Bring a large cat carrier.  Bait it with tuna or other strong smelling
    cat food.  Place the food way in the back of the carrier.  When kittens
    go in, let them eat for awhile.  Wait until they are totally engrossed
    in food, then sneak up to the back of carrier very quietly and quickly
    tilt it up while closing the door shut.  This is a tricky maneuver, but
    will keep them from running out.  The food will fly everywhere and
    the kittens will freak out, but you will have safely caught them.
    
    Try it, and let us know if it works.  I found this method better than a
    Hav-A-Hart trap cause once one of the cats saw how the trap worked they
    wouldn't go in it no matter how hungry they were (usually the trap will
    only catch one or two at a time).  With the carrier, they will all pile
    in and then you can nab them.
    

    Or you can always do what Nancy DC did and run around like a crazy lady
    with a butterfly net :^).
    

    I have both the net and a trap if you need it.
      Nancy

    And 9-lives Supersupper seems to work very well at luring kitties.
    

    
    
    	Well unfortunately, Jen, Kim and Jen's fiance didn't have
    	any luck.  Only momma kitty and one of the kittens showed
    	up to begin with and they wouldn't let anyone get within
    	5 feet of them.  sigh......
    

    I don't understand...
    
    They are trying to get into cars but won't let anyone near them?
    
    Anyway, if you are truely set on catching these kitties it takes lots
    of time and determination.  It took me an entire summer to get the 4
    feral kittens living in the woods behind my house  What kept me going
    was knowing that if I didn't catch them, they would start to interbreed
    and make even more kittens for me to catch!  I also got the mom and
    dads.  If you don't catch mom, history will surely repeat itself.
    
    Just keep at it.  I wish I was closer to help.  The cat carrier trick
    was the best approach, and had I thought of it earlier I probably would
    have had the kittens halfway thru the summer vs. the end!!
    
    --Roberta
    
    

      Right!! It takes time and LOTS of patience and persistance in many
    cases.
      I know it's frustrating that such small, defenseless animals are able
    to elude a person, but remember...these little creatures have no
    reason to trust any humans.
    
      I cannot remember what channel it was on, but during the past week
    there was a bit on T.V. about a man in the West who has a ranch where
    he typically has over 150 cats that he's rescued. The specific rescue
    that was shown was two former pets that had been abandoned on a stone
    jetty which ran about a half-mile into the ocean.These animals had no
    water available, and he fed and watered them for about 6 weeks before
    he was able to lure them into a trap with water. The ironic thing was
    that when he finally DID catch them, he caught both within 15 minutes
    of each other. If youcould have only seen his livingroom!! Musta been
    50 cats there alone...all crawling over him, rubbing up against
    him...getting 'scritched', etc....and then this man caome on camera and
    announced..."You know..all of these cats were wild when I caught
    them...but look at them now...they trust me now....." 
    
      So...it may require a trap being set...if the mother is cuaghe it
    also may meke it much easier to catch the kittens..
    
    JM

    
    Yes...last night was unsuccessful. Sigh.  
    
    Thats what I couldn't understand, Monday night, the Mother cat and her
    gray kitten were walking right up to cars, rubbing up against them,
    under them, etc., but none of the people got out of the cars so maybe
    its just plain humans that they are scared of.  Momma kitty wouldn't
    come near the box I had, even with the tuna in it, but they had no
    problem with walking up to the cans, as long as you were 5-10 feet
    away.  The second you moved, they were off like rockets.
    
    One good thing is they didn't appear to be very skinny, however they
    did have thick winter coats on so it was deceiving. I feel good that
    they at least got a good meal for the night...
    
    

    Jenn, just keep trying but use a large cat carrier, the larger the
    better.  I have one you can borrow if need be.  It really is important
    to get she and her babies used to eating inside of something instead of
    out in the open.  I know how discouraging it is when you try and get
    nowhere, believe me!!  Another good food source are sardines.  They
    smell and look horrible but my cats will kill for them.
    

    here is a suggestion..... you may want to give Carol Marchione
    in Framingham a call. She is the President of the Fram. Humane Society.
    I don't have a phone book handy but she lives on Belknap Road and
    it is under Ronald Marchione. She is a real hard person to catch on
    the phone - but she might be able to help. Tell her that you tried
    the Humane Tel # in the phone book with no results. Also mention
    that you need help in trapping them. She may ask what you plan on
    doing with them after capture, as more than likely the shelter will be
    full.  
    
    It's worth a phone call tho. 
    Good luck.
    Pat
    

    Keep going every day and feeding them.  After a while they'll begin
    to associate you with the food and will start trusting you a bit more.
    Talk to the manager of the Burger King and see if he'll let you put
    a have-a-heart trap out there.  i have one I can loan you.
    My only condition is that you chain it to something so that it
    can't be stolen.
    
    You'll want it in a very inconspicuous place so no one sees it and
    you'll need to check it twice a day.  Once in the morning and once
    in the evening.
    
    It took us a week once to catch an x-stray that had escaped from my
    vet's after a spay.  And this was a cat that had been living with
    humans for over 6 months.  She reverted to wild very quickly.
    
    Just keep in mind the good you're doing.  Don't you wish you could
    just go there, open the carrier and say.  "Look guys, I have food
    and a warm place for you with loving people. Just climb on into the
    carrier and I'll take you there."  Too bad it isn't that easy :*)

    I still didn't see any last night. Where in the lot *should* I be
    looking? Maybe I'm not looking in the right areas.
    
    Kevin                                                       

    I remember hearing once that the best time to look for a lost cat was
    at dusk and early in the morning, for whatever that's worth.
    

    Try near the dumpster.....that's the food source...
    

    Maybe this might help.  We have alot of stray dogs around our house and
    we haven't had any luck trying to catch them (to turn them over to the
    dog catcher) Anyway, the dog catcher said to use our dog as bait, put
    her in the car and leave one door open when the stray comes into the
    car, shut the door. Open the other and get the bait out (our dog)
    Now i don't know if this will apply to mom and her kitties, but if they
    are rubbing against and underneath the car, why not give it a try. The
    only thing I suggest is that you use cat food as bait!!!!
    

    One thing that worked in catching the fearls down the street from me
    was this:  feed them daily and let them get used to you - some of them
    actually let us pet them after a bit and we were able to get them by
    the scruff and into the box - when those were taken care of we changed
    the feeding procedure by cutting back and letting them get good and
    hungry - when they came up to the food we were able to get them with a
    net or in the have-a-heart.  I don't know if this will work giving the
    location with the dumpster - seems like there's enough around for them
    to eat - my ferals were in a large garden environment wihout many
    people around but we got all 14 spayed and nutered over a period of
    time - most of them were tamed and the 4 that were completely wild were
    put back in the garden where we have provided a shelter and we feed
    them once a day.
    
    It does take time and patience but don't give up!
    
    Good luck,
    
    Giudi

    I passed by Burger King the other night, and saw someone in a truck
    who looked like he (she? I couldn't see inside the truck) was
    investigating the area for the cats. I was just wondering if anyone
    has heard anything new on this as I've had the worst luck in this.
                                                               
    

    I think perhaps we need to organize a little cat-catching expedition.
      Nancy (who'll bring her fishnet)

    ....I can picture this in my head.....A group of DecFeliners
    running around with cans of tuna and a fishnet!!!!
    
    They will probably call those men in the white coats! :-)   
    
    Lynne

    
    	If anyone can catch them, my offer to take them to the 
    	Nashua Humane Society is still open!
    

    Any progress on the kitties???????
                                 Cheryl

   I only saw the yellow kitty.  Has anyone seen the others lately??  What I
   did was leave a plastic container for water and one for dry food. (I
   figured dry would attract fewer other animals)  Does anyone with a trap
   want to try a capture?  The kitty I saw looked in need of some veterinarian
   attention.

   Simone

    I would be glad to help....I don't have a trap though....Send me mail
    if you would like some help.
    
    michele

  I spoke with the manager at B.K. yesterday and she was quite reluctant to
  let me try to trap the kitties (thanks for the offer for the trap, Nancy).
  The manager was worried about liabilities, etc.

  So, I tried a number of places (Hudson Dog Officer/Buddy Dog - no answer at
  either place) and today I finally contacted the Animal Rescue League in
  Boston to see if they had any suggestions.

  Well, as it turns out, they not only gave me the name of a man who is an
  expert at trapping strays, they also said he would come all the way to Hudson
  to help our B.K. kitties!  My faith in humankind has been restored.

  I called the manager of Burger King to give her his name and number and when
  to get in touch with him and she seemed quite sympathetic to the cause.  
  Apparently a number of the employees at BK feel sorry for the kitties, and
  some even interested in adopting them, but they could never get near them.

  So, cross your fingers everyone and maybe soon the B.K. kitties will have 
  safe, warm homes.

  Simone  

  P.S. [The B.K. Manager said she would call the Rescue League tomorrow to
        set something up, so if you go into B.K. maybe it wouldn't hurt to
        inquire as to how the capture is progressing]

    
    
    	Yay!  I'm glad to see that something is trying to be
    	done again.  =)
    
    	JJ
    

    Have arrangements been made to get the kitties to Nashua Humane?
    I know they only put cats down if they are very ill.
    

    
    
    	If these kitties can be caught, I'm still willing to bring
    	them there.
    
    	JJ
    

    I went to Burger King at lunch-time.  I've been there several times
    since that yellow cat was found there.  I've fed her and her kitten a
    few times.  The last 3 or 4 times I went there, I couldn't find any of
    the cat or kittens, so I hoped that they all had good homes.
    
    Today, I saw the yellow cat.  She's injured...bad.  Her back legs are
    all beaten up and her tail is just hanging down.  I feel so depressed,
    I can't stand it.  I'm sitting here typing this crying at my desk.
    
    This cat needs to be rescued and brought to a shelter. She can hardly
    walk anymore.
    
    Please someone help me help this cat.
    
    Karen 
    297-7135
    LEZAH::KARENK
    

    is this the Burger King in Hidson, Ma? If so, my suggestion is still
    to call the Fram Humane Soc. and tell them.. If the tel # in the book
    is wrong then call Carol Marchione (or it might be Marchioni) on
    Belknap Road in Fram. It may be under Ronald Marchione. Carol is
    the president of the Fram Hum. Soc. and is very hard to reach-
    but keep trying. Nancy Hudson works closely with the Fram Humane
    Soc. and she comes from Hudson, MA. She could probably help.
    
    I don't have the latest copy of Paw Prints - the Humane Society
    newsletter and it has the tel # in it. The other source for the
    tel # is by calling teh Fram, Animal Hos. and asking for the
    humane society #. Fram An. Hos. # is 877-0900. I am going there
    tomorrow with my dog - I can got the # then if you don't get
    it sooner. I'll post it here.
    
    Pat
    

    
    Hudson, Mass.

    Would it be possible to have directions to this particular Burger King
    in Hudson, MA put in this note?  It might help some folks who'd like to
    get together, drive there, and catch this poor creature to take her to
    the Nashua Humane Society (now known as Humane Society of N.E. I
    believe) as some replies have indicated.  
    
    Thanks
    Pat
    

    I have been talking to Lenora who works in the MRO library and who also
    works with the Framingham Humane Society.  She has contacted a friend
    who lives in Hudson and has dealt with these situations before.  They
    also have the Hudson Dog Officer involved.  
    
    They were at Burger King last night and saw the cat, but the cat is
    very trap shy.  Apparently, someone from Buddy Dog trapped her kittens
    a couple of weeks ago and the mother cat saw it.  So, it's going to be
    tough getting a hold of her. 
    
    But the bottom line is several people are working on the situation to
    rescue this cat.  I'll keep everyone informed!
    
    /karen
    
    

    
    	I'm glad to hear that the kittens were rescued.  That's a start.
    	At least the warm weather is here so she won't be too cold and
    	the rescuers won't freeze trying to get her.
    
    	JJ
    

    
    Anymore news on the baby???
    
    Sue

    
    I just got back from the Hudson Burger King.  We saw the cat, set
    up the trap, and sat back to watch.  Unfortunately, she was spooked
    by us and didn't reappear again during the hour that I sat nearby
    in my car.  Several cats of open cat food were around which we took
    away so that she will go into the trap.  Please, everyone, don't
    put any food out for this cat.  Volunteers from both Framingham
    Humane Society & Buddy Dog are working on this.  We need to get
    her hungry enough to go into the trap, this will be next to impossible
    if food keeps appearing for her!  One of the volunteers & the Hudson
    Dog Officer will be cruising by today and will be trapping tonight
    and until we catch her.  I will certainly let you know developments
    as they happen, but remember DO NOT FEED AT THE HUDSON BURGER KING.
    Thanks!
    
    Also, it was hard to see exactly how bad off she was since she won't
    let us get too close but she does seem to be able to move pretty
    quickly.  She definitely has something wrong with her back end,
    though, and her tail appears to be broken so that it hangs down.
    When we do get her (notice I didn't say "If"!) she will go immediately
    to a vet.  Thanks for the concern on all of your parts.  I will
    keep in touch.
    
    Lenora

    Do the burger king people know not to feed this kitty?
    

    good point, Holly!!
    
    Bon

    Um, Bon, I think you mean Karen :^).  Her kitty's name is Holly!!  :^)
    
    Well, at least you didn't call her Sweetie!!!  (Her other cat's name!)

    
    We have had SUCCESS!  Last night (05/09/91) around 10 p.m. another
    Framingham Humane Society volunteer and myself were able to trap
    the orange tiger kitty with the messed-up back end!  We took the
    cat directly to the vet who looked at it and seemed to feel that
    it is a male.  His tail looks in really bad shape & the vet was
    unsure whether it was possible to save it, his whole bottom area
    was very swollen, all of the fur was gone and as of right now I
    have no idea what could have caused him to have this problem.  As
    soon as I find out more I will write more.
    
    He/She seems to not be feral -- he/she allowed us to roll him around
    in the trap to get a closer look at this back end & you could see
    that the poor kid was so scared.  I feel so bad for him/her... 
    I am still confused about what happened with the pregnant female
    from back in March.  We have not seen any other cats near the Burger
    King except for yet another large male orange cat who was never
    interested in our trap and looks very healthy (although he need
    to get neutered!)  Anyways, we will be letting the sympathetic people
    who work at the car dealership nearby know that if they see any
    other cats in the area that might possibly be the (former) pregnant
    female that we will come to help.
    
    I'll let you all know what I hear on the condition of the kitty
    trapped last night.
    
    Lenora

    Lenora,
    
    You are WONDERFUL!  Thank you so much for the wonderful news!!!!
    
    /karen
    
    

    Thats excellent! Please let us know how s he  is!
    
    SueJ & Alex

    That's great...you made my weekend.  Me and my crew will pray for
    the little guy.  I don't believe it is a male...I really thought
    it would be the Mom.  
    
    Job well done and you must feel wonderful!!!!!
    
    Sandy

    
    
    	Wonderful!!  Yes, please do keep us posted on the
    	prognosis for this angel.....
    
    	JJ
    

    Congratulations - this is really great news.  I've been thinking on and
    off about this situation and am so very happy to hear that you've been
    able to rescue this poor baby and get him/her some help.  Keep us
    posted as to his/her progress.
    
    Sending good thoughts,
    
    Giudi + Pippin, Gino + StItCh

    
    I just spoke with the animal hospital technician and she says that
    he's definitely a boy.  He has tested negative for FeLV, is not
    feral, and his tail is in the process of being looked at to see
    what can be done.  They have taken X-rays to see if they can find
    out anything about further damage to his back end.  The technician
    said that they thought that the hair loss from his back legs might
    have been caused by urine burns.  Poor guy!
    
    Will let you know more as soon as I find out,
    
    Lenora

    GREAT NEWS!!!
    
    BTW, Holly, sorry about that!! I was talking to your mom, not you!
    
    ;*)
    
    Bonnie

    
    I'm afraid that I have bad news about our little Burger King buddy.
    His pelvis was fractured and due to that and his fractured tail
    he had no control over his bladder causing him to be incontinent.
    It was determined by the vets who looked at him that nothing could
    be done to remedy the situation and so we had to make the hard decision
    to have him euthanized.  We were all very upset about this, especially
    since he really was very sweet -- purred all the time and liked
    to give head bumps.  I'm very sorry to have to give you all this
    news.  I guess we can only hope that he's in some better place now.
    
    Lenora

    Lenora, please don't apologize.  Because of you and other caring
    individuals, this kitty experienced more kindness and compassion in
    his final moments of life than he did in all his living ones.  Because
    of you, he was able to pass on from this world into the next gently and
    peacefully, instead of painfully on his own.
    
    I'm sorry it didn't have a happier ending but what you did was a
    wonderful thing.
    
    --Roberta
    

    Lenora called me Saturday night with the news.  I was the one who put
    the note in about the cat being injured and who contacted Lenora to
    help me with the cat.  When we were talking to each other, we both
    started to cry.
    
    I was going to adopt the little guy once he got checked out ok.  Even
    now, I start to cry just thinking about that little face.
    
    But before he passed on, he knew that he was loved.  Rest in peace,
    little guy.
    
    karen
    

    
    	I'm so sorry that things didn't work out differently.
    	But like Roberta said, the last few moments of his life
    	were probably the best that he'd experienced in a long
    	time if ever!
    
    	Take care
    
    	JJ
    

    I'm sure the little guy is in a much nicer place! So sorry to hear the
    news. You really did do the right thing. Even tho it's sad, I'd rather
    think of things being this way, than to have that poor baby running
    around w/ a painful broken pelvis.....
    
    Hugs,
    Bonnie

    
    Thank you all for your kind words.  It's sure nice to receive support
    and understanding.
    
    Regards,
    
    Lenora

    I'd say the poor guy had a run-in with a car and lost.
    
    Thanks for caring...he's not suffering anymore.
    
    Lynne & crew

    We're so sorry.
    
    Karen, Sweetie, little Bit, and Holly
    

    Lenora  and all who helped this unfortuate kitty.
    
    It sounded like he has had a rough life so far. The kindness you
    showed him by trapping him and getting him medical help was for
    his benefit.  Can you imagine how that urine on his little bum
    must have burned him. Not being able to lift his tail or to clean
    himself must have been horrible.
    
    The decision to put him to sleep must have been very difficult
    but this is where the REAL love shows. To let him go when the
    quality of his life was not going to be good.
    
    Thanks to all who had a part in trying to help this kitty have a
    better life.
    
    Barbara

    If you folks give this little guy a name I"ll add him to the
    Silver Lining Memorial.
      I'm glad he's not suffering any more.  Thank you Lenora and others
    for caring.
      Nancy

    sorry to hear about the  poor little guy, thank goodness you helped
    him in the end, what a horrible and painful time he must have been
    having....
                for a name - since he was a burger king kitty how about
     
                            B.B. King?
    
                                               

    So sorry to hear about the little guy...my heart breaks!  You
    guys were all so wonderful for helping these Burger King kitties...
    he knew you were trying so hard to help.
    
    Warm thoughts and prayers.
    
    Sandy

    
    That would be very nice if you could add him to the Silver Lining
    fund, Nancy.  I'd appreciate that.  We were in the process of naming
    him when we found out how bad his situation was.  We were strongly
    considering "Sundance" as a name so you can use that.  Thanks very
    much.  And again, thanks to everyone for the support.
    
    Lenora

     Lenora,, indeed you are a very special person.. and I am sure
    that he "knew" you loved  him and you were trying to help him.
    We send  kitty hugs and  kitty kisses..
    Kate, Happy, Preschie

    I am so sad and sorry to hear of this but just as in previous noters
    have mentioned, you made the last moments of his life and his passing
    much easier.  You did a wonderful thing.  My prayers and thoughts are
    with you.
    
    luv,
    
    Giudi

    Rest In Peace Sundance...Lots of LOVE! 
    
    Suej & Alex

    Sundance, our li'l B.K. Buddy, R.I.P.  Leonora & the others who helped,
    thank you for enabling him to pass on with dignity.
    
    diane, stanley & stella
    

    This is eerie!  Pat and I had been discussing a name for Bonnie's
    little boy and we'd come up with "Putiput's Creem Aura Sundance".
    I always wanted to name a cat Sundance.   I guess Sunny's name
    is set now in memory of this poor little guy.  Does anyone object
    to Sundance as the name for this unfortunate?
      Nancy

    
    Nancy, I have no problem with using "Sundance" for Bonnie's kitty.
    I think that it would be a very nice memorial, if it's ok with Bonnie.
    
    Lenora

    I meant objections to using Sundance as a name for this little guy
    who lost out.   I've listed him as "Sundance, our lil B.K. Buddy"
    on the list.  
    
    I'm glad you don't mind my naming Bonnie's baby Sundance, Lenora.
    Its a little thing, but it makes me feel better.  I've never regretted
    naming CC Ryder as a tribute to HRH and she's lived up to the honor.
    I expect Sunny will do the same.
      Nancy