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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

4309.0. "Talking vs. Yelling" by MRKTNG::MAXIMOUS () Tue Jan 15 1991 10:33

    Hello again.
    
    Well, my kitty has now been with me for 10 days. He has gotten over his
    fears and come out to be with my husband and I. Now the problem is the
    noise he is making.
    
    His name is now Mish-Mish (an Egyptian name). He is a blue oriental.
    Now, I like oriental/siamese cats because they talk. However, I'm not
    sure that yelling is what I had in mind.  I hope that it is because he
    is still missing his friends and searching around the house looking for
    them.
    
    He yells the most when he wants to play.  All we have to do is get out
    his toys and play with him and he will get occupied with that and
    forget about yelling.
    
    My other siamese that I had years ago would only yell when he was
    really upset. The rest of the time he would talk in a reasonable voice.
    Mish-Mish uses nice talking tones for a conversation with me, but when
    he wants attention, he is like a crying baby who needs a diaper change.
    
    I know that several of you have experience with orientals - so can you
    give me any pointers?
    
    This cat is so sweet and is very well behaved. He is just extra noisy.
    I'm hoping that with time, the reasonable talking voice will become the
    norm. Any reassurrances?
    
    Signe
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4309.1CRUISE::NDCPutiput Scottish Folds DTN:297-2313Tue Jan 15 1991 11:055
    Well, I don't have any reassurances, but Mao whom we think has some
    siamese in her background, also yells at times.  Often for no reason
    that I can see ;-)  I'm very glad that those occasions are rather
    infrequent.  What a racket!!
    
4309.2Some are just noisy....DELNI::JMCDONOUGHTue Jan 15 1991 12:4212
       I wish I could give you some positive input, but it's a fact that
    SOME--not all by any means--but some Siamese are very noisy critters.
    My "Rama-Thai" was a VERY noisy boy.. His favorite thing was to go from
    room-to-room at 3:00 in the morning screaming at every window.... I
    still don't know how we were able to cope with him, but he was SUCH a
    darned little Sweetie all of the time... I used to sit with my legs
    stretched out and my feet crossed on a hassock....he'd jup up on my
    legs, stretch out fuul length with his head at my ankles and his back
    feet would be at my thighs...and he'd simply go to sleep... You coul
    hear him purr from about 50 feet....
    
    JM
4309.3JUPITR::KAGNOI'm51%Pussycat,49%Bitch-Don'tPush it!Tue Jan 15 1991 14:2518
    Hey, things could be worse!  I have a 2 1/2 year old Ragdoll cat that
    yells too.  Ragdolls are supposed to be a quiet breed but someone
    forgot to tell that to Kelsey!  His voice is so loud he sometimes loses
    it from screeching too much.
    
    The only time we reprimand him is if he is yelling for a reason he
    knows he's not supposed to (like go for a walk when mom isn't in the
    mood to take him or screeches for me to get up at 6:00 in the
    morning and feed him).  Then, he gets squirted with the squirt gun.  If
    he's simply talking to me (like when I walk in the door from work and
    he's happy to see me), I can put up with his loud mouth.
    
    I don't believe for a minute that the Ragdolls have no Siamese in their
    blood.  Either that, or Kelsey is the exception to the rule.
    
    
    --Roberta
    
4309.4Mrrrreeeow!!!USAMTS::MTS_METRICSHome is where the Cat isTue Jan 15 1991 15:418
    Roberta,
    
    Don't worry, I have an exotic that's probably louder than any siamese.
     
    Someone forgot to tell Bridgy that she's not suppose to talk!
    
    cin
    
4309.5MEOWWWWWWWW...CSS::IVESTue Jan 15 1991 15:5520
    The siamese part of the Himalayan breed really comes out in
    Mr. Miyagi. Usually he just talks but let me get into the shower
    and he screams bloody murder. I keep the bathroom door open ajar
    so he can come in and out but he howls anyway.  The first time
    my husband heard it he thought I had caught Mr. Miyagi's paw in
    the door and he was stuck there. Tim came running up the stairs
    and there was Mr. Miyagi sitting on the floor in the middle of
    the bathroom screaming. 
    
    Ming has a purr like crazy but doesn't talk at all. I think the
    only time I have heard a peep out of her is when we take her with
    us in the car and she is in her carrier or she accidently gets 
    stepped on.
    
    Mocha is like Kelsey, wants to go out and screams his lungs out
    till he is outside.
    
    Funny furfaces....
    
    Barbara and her 3M's
4309.6come on out..I know you're hiding...TYGON::WILDEillegal possession of a GNUTue Jan 15 1991 16:5615
In my experience, the cat should simmer down somewhat as he gets adjusted to
the new living arrangements.  He is probably lonely for other cats and will
learn that they aren't "just hiding" from him in time.  Mandycat hollered at
the top of her lungs constantly for the first week she was with us...and we
HAVE other cats, but they weren't HER cats and she was confused....she seemed
to keep calling for her litter mates to "come out".  When you have no other 
cats to distract him, you must expect it to take a little longer for your guy
to settle down.  Lots of play time and conversation with him is the best
treatment at this time.

Being an oriental, however, the level of noise at which he considers himself 
"settled down" may not be the most desirable level of noise control in your
opinion....8^}

		Love them noisy, pretty, obstinant orientals....
4309.7Maybe we need earplugsMRKTNG::MAXIMOUSTue Jan 15 1991 17:3313
    Well, I'll tell my husband to just give him time and hope that one of
    them adjusts. I know that Mishy will probably always yell, I just hope
    he'll figure out that it is undesirable behavior when my husband is
    home and tone it down a little.
    
    He is a truly sweet and lovable cat and I want things to work out
    between the three of us. I'm so happy having a kitty again after all
    these years.
    
    Thanks for the commiserations!
    
    Signe
    
4309.8TENAYA::KOLLINGKaren/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca.Tue Jan 15 1991 18:579
    Little Bit is a tabby, but i swear he has Siamese blood somewhere.
    He howled a lot at first until I realized he was trying to
    tell me that he was hungry -- Sweetie (aka Mr. Vacumn Cleaner)
    has cleaning LB's plate.  LB is of the nibble and leave persuasion.
    Now LB gets an extra helping later in the evening when the others
    are asleep and peace reigns.  Well....peace reigns until he decides
    I should get up and play with him....
    
    
4309.9Flo' shouts too ...XNOGOV::LISAGive quiche a chanceWed Jan 16 1991 07:5610
    Florence our Oriental shouts a lot too! Also she purrs so loud that it
    makes her cough! She doesn't shout for any particular reason, she's
    just so happy that she shouts I think! Usually we get some peace by
    screwing up a piece of paper and throwing it, she fetches it, drops it
    at out feet, we throw it etc.... It's dull, but it keeps her happy!
    
    Don't let it get to you - you'd miss the noise if it went away!!
    
    Lisa plus PR&F.
    
4309.10Complaints, complaintsTSDOC::BERRYThu Jan 17 1991 23:0419
Hi,

When I moved into a city apartment a few years ago, my only cat then, screamed 
bloody murder.  He is half siamese and had been living in a house with another
cat.  Previous to that he lived with a dog whom he loved to chase.  Tober was
furious at the change to a single apt.  It also didn't seem to matter much that
I paid extra attention to him, he let me know in spades that he did not like it 
there.  He calmed down after a month but still was unhappy until I adopted a
Maine Coon for him to play with.  They became best buddys and Tober shut up.

My third cat added to the pack is a full siamese.  She complains loudly whenever
she is picked up or put down.  She loves to be held or sit on your lap, but she 
hates flight.  Given a little time, your cat will probably settle in.  You may
need to get a companion however.

Good luck,


Priscilla
4309.11Things may be improvingMRKTNG::MAXIMOUSFri Jan 18 1991 10:5720
    Well, as of tomorrow Mish-Mish will be with me for two weeks.
    
    Either his yelling has toned down a very little bit, or I am becoming
    more immune. I think one thing that has helped is I am no longer 
    hiding his tinsel tease stick when we are not playing with him.  I had
    been putting it away so he couldn't get at it and I think he would get
    really mad looking for it.
    
    He has not woken us in the middle of the night for 3 nights now, so
    that is good news.
    
    He is extremely loving and gives equal time to my husband and me. As
    long as he lets us sleep at night and shuts up when told to, things are
    going to be fine. I think that the longer he is here, the angry yells
    should go away. I'm sure he is still mad at being rousted from his
    happy home with all those other kitties to play with.
    
    Thanks for all your support.
    
    Signe