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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

3299.0. "EverClean vs Agway Brand" by MIVC::MTAG () Thu Feb 01 1990 15:21

    This weekend when I change the litter box, I plan on changing over to
    Ever Clean (or whatever it is called).  I have some quick questions:
    
    1.  I have 2 litter boxes and 3 cats... will this stuff work ok?
    2.  Agway sells something similar but less expensive.  Has anyone
    	used this and how does it compare to the "real" thing?
    
    Thanks,
    Mary
    
    PS - I know there are notes out there on this product, but don't think
    it covers my questions... Moderator: please feel free to move this if
    necessary. 
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3299.1keep an eye on eye problemsCSCOA3::MCFARLAND_Djust call me dunwoody diThu Feb 01 1990 17:1410
    
    the stuff is great to use.  just watch out for eye irritations, though. 
    my stanley proved to be verrrry allergic to a copycat (no pun intended!) 
    brand put out by a local pet supply store.  he developed severe corneal
    abrasions in *both* eyes as a result.  now that i have switched over to
    a different kind of filler (kitty litter brand), we have had no further 
    trouble.
    
    diane & stanley & stella
    
3299.2IAMOK::GERRYHome is where the Cat isThu Feb 01 1990 17:567
    Okay,  I've been thinking of switching to the Everclean for my male
    cats, since they don't share boxes with anyone else I wouldn't have the
    problems with the urine balls getting broken up.  I figure if I can
    remove the smelly male odor, it will help greatly, but I'm concerned
    about problems with the eyes.
    
    
3299.3I didn't like it; the cats were thrilled!FSHQA1::RKAGNOA Cat Makes a Purrfect FriendThu Feb 01 1990 18:2313
    I used Everclean for -- oh -- about 3 to 4 months and found it to
    be nothing but a mess.  The cats thought it to be great fun (wow,
    mom, a SANDBOX!), and proceeded to dig, kick, and play with the
    litter until they were ready to actually use it.  It is also very
    dusty, and I would get "short-breathed" after cleaning the box.
    I figured if it was wreaking havoc with my breathing, imagine what
    it is doing to the cats, and switched back to Tidy Cat 3, our regular
    brand.
    
    I'll always use Tidy Cat.  It is dust-free, and I can still remove
    the clumps of wet urine with the scoop.  Regular mixings of baking
    soda help keep odor to a minimum until the next box change.
    
3299.4GREAT LITTERSAGE::WATSONThu Feb 01 1990 18:456
    I have been using (excuse me - BENJ has been using) Control litter. 
    It's the only smell-concealing litter I've ever been able to find.
    
    Myself, I use Kleen Kitty...
    
    Deb and Benj
3299.5MIVC::MTAGThu Feb 01 1990 18:4813
    Hmmm... I forgot about a reply I read ages ago about cats playing in
    the Everclean.  That's something to consider.  Also the dust part.  My
    husband complains every time I change the litter because of the dust
    and the litter I use is supposed to be dust controlled.  The reason I
    thought of switching to Everclean is I'm basically lazy and am tired of
    changing the litter all the time; also because I'm 6 months pregnant
    and am not supposed to change the litter (a current sore spot with me
    and my husband).
    
    Thanks for your comments.  I'll probably try the Everclean and see what
    happens.
    
    Mary 
3299.6SMURF::S_FRASERC'mon everybody! Smurf's up!Thu Feb 01 1990 19:089
3299.7we like it1TALLIS::DUTTONBo knows particle physicsThu Feb 01 1990 19:319
    Well, I'm one of the people using Everclean that really likes the
    stuff.  Our boys played with it at first, but they seem to have gotten
    bored with that game, and just use it normally.  It does tend to track
    a little, but a scrap piece of carpet under the box has taken care of
    that problem.  The best part, of course, is the lack of smell.  We
    haven't noticed any allergy problems or been particularly bothered by
    dust. Just my $.02! :-)
    
    		-todd
3299.8Veterinary Opthomologist says it's okay.IAMOK::GERRYHome is where the Cat isThu Feb 01 1990 19:5517
    That's why I'm considering it with my males.  They don't play in their
    litter, Max does like to sleep in his once in a while.  Stripees won't
    even scratch to cover, never mind play!!!  Good thing I love him!!  
    
    With a whole male, unless you change the cat box every day, there is
    always male cat smell.
    
    I called Dr. Bachrach's office today to discuss Everclean, since
    Stripees has glaucoma, and currently is healing from a corneal
    abrasion.  Dr. Bachrach's office recommended it highly, and said, in
    fact, they use only everclean in their clinic.  I have an appointment
    for Stripees next week with Dr. Bachrach and I'll discuss it further
    with him before investing in the stuff.  I'll let you guys know what I
    find out.
    
    cin
    
3299.9CIRCUS::KOLLINGKaren/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca.Thu Feb 01 1990 22:297
    Sweetie has a respiratory problem which the dust from the
    Everclean made worse;  it is now a no-no at our house.
    The vet's guess was that the problem stemmed originally from a
    reaction to flea powder, but he emphasized that that was just a
    guess.  I am somewhat suspicious myself that the Everclean
    may even be the original source of the problem.
    
3299.10Messy, dusty vs no odor!SALSA::DEFRANCOMon Feb 05 1990 16:3112
    I tried EverClean a few months ago and I couldn't wait to get rid of
    the stuff.  Maybe my 3 cats do a lot of digging, but I had litter from
    one end of the house to the other.  Granted, I have tile floors so
    everything shows up, but then again I wouldn't want this stuff sinking
    into my carpeting either.  I also had dust so heavy that I had to WASH
    my furniture every week.  It was beyond just dusting it off!
    
    Maybe the Agway brand will be less dusty.  I have to admit that with
    EverClean, there was absolutely no odor!  I suppose if you have a
    "whole" male, this one very good point may outway the negatives!
    
    Jeanne 
3299.11CONFG5::AYRESTue Feb 06 1990 19:4519
    Last week-end my daughter and I purchased two gallons of Ever-clean
    - the sales clerk said that she had three cats - and that it was the
    best thing since sliced bread (her exact words...I might add)!  I
    had heard about it - and read some articles about it...so decided
    to give it a try.
    
    Otis (8 month old 15 lb. kitten) thought he was at Hampton Beach
    and proceeded to play with the 'sand'...as I was scooping it up
    off the rug trying to put it back in.  That stuff is EXPENSIVE...
    $10.00 a gallon!  He never considered going to the bathroom in the
    stuff, it was too much fun!  Tiffany, our two year old, REFUSED
    to use the litter box and went on the carpet in the dining room
    (of ALL places...)!
    
    So, we switched (FAST) back to 'Control'...and called the 800
    number (on the container) and explained to them that both cats 
    refused to use it.  They are sending us a refund.
    
    Well...atleast we gave it a try.
3299.12I Had no Success EitherLYMPH::SWANTCan't get away from basicsWed Feb 07 1990 21:1226
    Why not give it a try?  Some people have great success -- but I 
    am not one of them.

    I dislike it intensely for the tracking problem.  The fur
    in between the little cat toes just tracks it everywhere even with 
    a carpet outside the box at my house.

    Also, with three cats it was too expensive.  By the time I 
    scooped all of the wet spots there was little left at the end of 
    the week so I had to add a lot more.

    It developed a bad smell after two weeks.  When Sheba goes she
    digs to China before and covers the world afterwards -- so her
    wet spots can't be scooped.  The urine is evenly distributed
    throughout. Also the smell from covered and distributed fecal
    material is held by the sand.  

    I scoop several times in a morning, right after work, and again 
    before bedtime.  But even with three cat pans and this amount of 
    scooping, the smell was not pleasant.

    On the good side:  my cats loved it to pieces -- used it
    immediately and refused to use the pans with regular liter.  But
    I gave it up as a bad cause. 

			    -- Julie