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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

3644.0. "VERNON IS SICK W/THE RUNS! HELP!" by ASABET::C_AQUILIA () Fri May 25 1990 18:35

    wednesday morning (5/23/90) when i got up i noticed a harsh smell
    coming from the kids room.  upon entering i found some diarrhia 
    on the outside of the kitty box and on the sides and well; all 
    over around the box.  after calming my boyfriend down i cleaned
    it up and dismissed it as someone just had a bit of the runs.  
    both the kitties seemed fine when i left.  
    
    when i returned home i noticed that there was a spot in the kitchen
    next to their bowls.  i was already holding verne who squirmed a 
    bit when i commented about the spot and where it came from.  shirl
    wouldn't even come down the stairs.  when i put verne down he 
    immediately starting lapping his butt and looked alittle upset.  i
    found out then that the spot on the floor was another piece of 
    'the runs'.  and then i saw it.. all over the house.  in every room,
    on the hardwood floors, on the carpet, ON THE COUCH, up the stairs,
    in the bedrooms etc, etc, etc.  and i thought my boyfriend was mad
    this morning!  i never saw him so angry.  i kept telling him that
    the kitty was sick; and couldn't help it.  but he takes pride in 
    the home and didn't want to hear it.  i put verne in the bathroom,
    reluctantly and called the vet (after cleaning the house and 
    shampooing the rugs for two (2) hours).  the vet told me to give him
    some pepto or kayopectate.  i didn't have either but had amonium ad. 
    he said that was fine but i reminded him that their is a good amount
    of alchohol in it and he agreed to only giving vernon a 1/4 teaspoon
    and check on him later.  he seemed to be a bit better after that
    so we left him in the room to sleep.  (woke up at 2:00 a.m. to pounding
    on the door cuz he wanted out but i resisted and just petted him back
    to sleep.  poor thing is craving attention like never before.) but
    anyways... so we checked yesterday morning and he went a bit, but in
    the box.  so we kept him in the bathroom till last night when he looked
    and acted better so i let him out.  a 1/2 hour after being out (and i
    locked shirly in with him during the day while we were at work so he
    wouldn't be lonely and i also didn't have two litter boxes) and i gave
    them both food which was completely gone when i got home at 7:00 p.m.
    so where was i ?? i let him out and a 1/2 hour later the cat is running
    around the house about 100 mph and the place is beginning to stink.  we
    finally catch him and he is uncontrollably pooing all over the place. 
    not to mention flying it all around from his running.  i immediately
    took him up the bathroom and put him and i in the tub and let the water
    wash his little hinney.  it just kept running out... and i felt sssooo
    bad for him (in the meantime, my bo is ranting about more poos in the
    house) so i cleaned him up and gave him more of the ad.  in the am.
    this morning i brought him to the vet.  this is the news...
    
    he was a 104 fever and very swollen glands AND an irritated butt.  the
    doctor asked if anyone has been sick and i told him my boyfriend had
    the same thing (runs) for about a week about two weeks ago.  he seems
    pretty sure its the same thing.  checked his eyes and mouth and said
    they looked good.  
    
    so i took vernon home and placed him again in the bathroom.  after two
    shots and some medication that i give him three times a day he was
    tired and fell asleep immediately in the sink with his favorite
    blanket.  i just called the house and he is still sleeping.  he also
    managed to eat a bit when we came home today about 10:00 a.m. but
    nothing the night before.
    
    should i be worried.  last night he was listless... not moving, just
    laying there but always purred and wanted me there.  i miss him and
    don't know what i will do if anything happens to him.  i'm sure all of
    you know what i'm talking about. shirly and i are both worried and i
    hope that she doesn't get this but the doctor thinks she will from
    being in the bathroom with him all day yesterday.
    
    is there anything that i can do to help him?  the doctor told me to
    call him in the morning and tell him how he is doing but i am not sure
    where to look for his swollen glands and i certainly won't know how to
    take his temperature.  i read all the notes regarding sick cats before
    writing this so maybe i'll pick one up (thermometer) on the way home..
    but i just don't want to do any damage.  i'm so worried!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    any comments and suggestions will be greatly appreciated.. thanks for
    listening.
    
    carlajeanne
    
    
    ps.. my doctor charged me nothing.  just told me to relax and call him
    in the am.  quite the guy eh?
    
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3644.1HOPE VERNON GETS BETTER.NATASH::ANDERSONFri May 25 1990 20:4419
    Carlajeanne:
    
    So sorry to hear about Vernon.
    
    Having had a sick cat - with the runs - I understand your anxiety
    and frustration.  At first our vet thought he had been eating
    _something_ he shouldn't have - but found out later the medication
    he had been taking for a urinary infection/being neutered...
    irritated his bowels.
    
    I do remember the vet saying that he had a fever - but she didn't
    tell me 'what' his temperature.
    
    He is FINE now - but I hope it doesn't ever happen to him again.
    
    Sending best wishes....
    
    Marilyn, Otis & Tiffany
    
3644.2CIRCUS::KOLLINGKaren/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca.Fri May 25 1990 23:5723
    I am not able to follow your note well enough to tell exactly when Verne
    has been sick and when he hasn't.  It sounds like he was sick still as of
    this morning.  I believe you should consider this a serious
    problem, for these reasons:
    
    (1) Cats can get dehydrated very quickly from a problem like this and a
    few days of dehydration can be fatal.  A vet can treat dehydration by
    giving an injection of fluid, but it will have to be repeated (daily?)
    while the problem persists.  Your vet seems to be dismissing the problem
    as minor -- either he doesn't understand how  much difficulty Verne is
    in, or he is not competent and you should see another vet.
    
    (2)  The first symptom my cat showed of intestinal blockage a few years
    ago was (as odd as it sounds) just this -- diarrhea.  Intestinal
    blockage is also very serious.
    
    (3)  Verne sounds like he is very uncomfortable.
    
    I would be inclined to take Verne into the vet's again tomorrow to
    be checked on.  Remember that they will likely be closed the two
    following days due to the holiday.  I would not try to take Verne's
    temperature until the vet has showed you how.
    
3644.3CIRCUS::KOLLINGKaren/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca.Sat May 26 1990 00:006
    p.s.  All the things that I can think of that this might be are
    treatable, but not things that should be neglected.
    T
    tell your boyfriend to calm down;  you need his support now, not
    extra hassle. 
    
3644.4CSCOA5::MCFARLAND_Dalferetter boundSat May 26 1990 02:528
    
    hope poor verne feels better soon!  we just moved into a brand-new
    house, and i was a bit p.o'ed at whichever cat made a mess outside the
    box.  but i calmed down cuz i love them.  hope your boyfriend can work
    through his irritation at the cat.
    
    diane, stanley & stella
    
3644.5CRUISE::NDCPutiput Scottish Folds - DTN: 297-2313Tue May 29 1990 12:369
    Just make sure he's still eating and, more importantly, drinking
    lots of water.  If you notice he stops doing either, or if he
    starts vomitting, get him to the vet IMMEDIATELY.
    
    Hope he's doing better by today.
      Nancy DC
    
    p.s. even if he is still eating and drinking if he still has
    diarrea as of today (Tuesday), take him back to the vet.
3644.6the mystery virus!!!ASABET::C_AQUILIATue May 29 1990 13:4264
    well you all will be happy to know that vernon is back to his normal
    self... and wanting to play but mom says not yet my little monster; you
    need your rest for a few more days.
    
    karen, i'm sorry that you had a hard time reading my note; i do know
    that i was real upset when i wrote it and can imagine how difficult 
    it was to follow.  i tried to re-read this morning and laughed at the 
    sentances all running together.
    
    but anyways.. to get to the important subject.. vernon.
    
    when i got home on friday i couldn't believe that he wasn't better at
    all.  in fact, his eyes had the green junk in them that we get when we
    oversleep.  my boyfriend said that he thought that was what the problem
    was but i could see that even he was upset and worried about him.  he
    was managing to eat but the doctor told me to regulate small amounts
    over the course of the day and keep fresh water in his room so i didn't
    feed him more till the morning.  and that was when i saw shirly... 
    running around flitting her tail (you know how females do that right?)
    anyways... then i saw some stuff on her bumm.  i went immediately to
    the box where i saw the runns.  i panicked but it was too late to call
    the doctor.  so i gave her some of vern's medication and put her in the
    other bathroom for the night.  in the morning both cats seems alot
    better.  verne was getting around and his eyes were all cleaned out.  i
    called the doctor first thing and he said to bring both cats over cuz
    he wasn't going to be around sunday or monday.  so i did and shirly got
    sick all over the box.  of course she is a lady and managed not to get
    covered in it and norman was happy over that. :) but seriously, he gave
    her a shot and told me to keep her away from verne.  and then when he
    checked verne he said that his glands were almost back to normal and he
    seemed alot better.  his temperature was at this time 102.5.  he gave
    him another shot and boy was he mad!!! so we put them back in their
    boxes and went home very happy.  my boyfriend was alot better too and
    reminded me that he does love the cats.  (really he does) 
    
    when we got home shirl wasn't taking to the shot very well.  she was
    panting very heavily and wouldn't walk at all.  verne was like that the
    other time that i brought him but this time he didn't want to go in the
    bathroom at all and made a fuss about it.  we got him in however and
    sunday morning we were able to let him out for good.  both cats seems to be
    doing well now.  isn't that great?
    
    i was just so worried.  these are my first two kitties and i don't
    really know as much as an experienced kitty lover would however i'm
    learning.  my boyfriend has had at least 10 believe it or not and kept
    telling me that it was probably the flu bug or something like that but
    i just kept thinking about all the problems that i know cats can have. 
    (and how alot of them are terminal.)  next time i will be a bit more at
    ease and bring them immediately to the vet.
    
    oh, and norman charged me 10.00 for the two visits with verne, one with
    shirl and five shots total.  i do not go to him for the price either. 
    i go to him because he is very good with the kitties, close to home and
    makes us both feel at ease.  i highly recommend him for the fitchburg
    area.
    
    and last but not least on saturday he told me that he had 10 other cats
    in on friday with the same thing.  the fever and the runs.  i wonder
    what is was...
    
    
    thanks again for listening everyone!
    
    carlajeanne, and a happy vern and shirl
3644.7CIRCUS::KOLLINGKaren/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca.Tue May 29 1990 16:583
    This must have been really scary.  I've had cats for years and never
    seen anything like this, thank goodness.
    
3644.8CRUISE::NDCPutiput Scottish Folds - DTN: 297-2313Wed May 30 1990 11:355
    Hey - we're all still learning.  Its a life-long process.
    
    Glad the kitties are doing better.  I hope your vet can stay in
    business charging those prices  :-)
      Nancy DC
3644.9Glad they feel betterBOOZER::KIRBYWed May 30 1990 13:3116
    So glad Vernon & Shirl seem OK now. The worst thing about animals
    being sick is that they can't tell you how they feel - at least
    not in words. When my two boys are ill I can't think of anything
    else and don't always know what to do to make them comfortable.
    A trip to the VET is sometimes more painful than the problem.
    Some things get better on their own and others need professional
    advice quick. Your VET sounds really good. I suppose the trick is
    not to panic because the animals pick it up.
    
    Good luck
    
    Rosemary, Pip & Domino