Conference misery::feline_v1

    
    	oh, c'mon Phil, you know the answer to that....
    
    
    	chop-chop-chop! the bits must go!
    	
    
    
    	makes you cringe, huh? my husband can't stand to talk about it
    	either...! :P  :)  
    
    	
    	seriously, MB will almost definitely start to spray, esp
    	if he's going outside and marking his territory. Inside
    	the house is his territory, too, right?? Plus some vets
    	say that neutering will prevent prostate problems when he
    	gets older. 
    
    
    	Sherry (Rosie, Missy, Squeek, and SARAH!)
    

    C'mon Phil - spraying is only part of it.  You're well aware of
    the pet overpopulation problem.  There's NO excuse for not getting
    him neutered.  Don't take it so personally (Typical male  ;-)
    
    I keep telling these vets to STOP calling it Castration!!  I don't
    know of any male who doesn't instinctively "duck and cover" when he
    hears that term!!
      Nancy DC

    I didn't like the thought of "surgery" either, but after having
    a $200 bedspread permanently "marked" and ruined, not to mention
    two cats trying to rush out the door everytime it was opened, off
    to the vets they went.  My husband also cringed at the thought, but
    there are already too many unwanted furfaces without a loving home.
       
    The house is a lot more peaceful now without the over-active hormones
    from these two busting out into acts with sexual overtones.  My
    two adults are very relieved, also.  They were being chased and
    harassed, too.
    
    Life has *almost* returned to normal.
    
    Lynne

    
    But,but,but,but,but,...oohhh com'on guys,I'll buy some condoms,
    talk to him about the Birds an bees and things,anything. Its not
    that bad is it, Hes gotton ssooo big now,hes massive at 7 months
    and in great condition. Where will he get the will to live if I
    do that to him? No mre rape and plunder....sob sob sob...:-(
    
    He'll hate me,no more suicide attackes at 6.00 am...;-) well, maybe
    its not that bad then...????

    RE .3
    
    Is life ever normal when you own cats (oops when you are owned by
    cats)??
    
    Sandi owned by 3 plus 1 stray
    
    

    I'd recommend having it done real soon, too. I got my cat when he was
    12 months old (1 yr ago). After he got used to being in our house and 
    settled in, he started sitting in the window and moaning every time a 
    cat walked by the yard. He was suffering. 
    
    I seriously debated having the operation due to my own male sensitivity
    and my wife's feeling of compassion. I felt that his behavior couldn't be 
    that bad. What pushed me in the direction of him having the operation 
    was seeing too many cats and not enough loving homes. There are not enough 
    no-kill cat shelters. 
    
    High up on the list of decision-clinchers was the the fact that he was 
    starting to make a mess of our home with his aggressiveness and marking 
    behavior. It's not a compassionate act to leave him unaltered. It's just 
    uninformed. He really would be better off in the long run. Any vet will 
    tell you the same. There are plenty of referrals to good vets in this 
    Notes file, too. 
    
    When my cat returned home from the one night stay at the vets, he was 
    fine. You'd swear he was the same. After a month or so, his behavior
    became a bit less wild and peaceful. He's plenty playful and interested
    in everything as before. It's now been a year and his behavior is
    great.
    
    Don't hesitate.
    
    Russ
    

    
    They tend to mellow out a bit once they get *fixed*, which is a 
    nice change from the rambunctousness (sp?) you're probably used
    to... the spraying is horrible when they're not fixed, and it's
    really hard to get the smell out of the carpets. And they fill
    out as well. I don't think it affects them *too* bad. It takes
    a few days for them to get used to it, but afterwards it's no 
    big deal...
    ... especially if they've never *got it* before
    

    
    
    "   ... especially if they've never *got it* before

    Oh well,he will know the difference then;-)( Farm cats Nancy,before
    you tear me off a strip;-))))
    
    phil{}

    re: The thrill is gone -
    
      Now folks, just because the dangly bits aren't there doesn't
    mean the cat can't have his fun.  Flame is living proof.  Honest!!
    He has his daily trysts with the fake fur cat bed.  He purrs and
    purrs and patty-paws and well.....  Lets just say that although he
    never quite finishes what he starts he gets well into it.  He's 
    answered some of the more sensitive questions I had about male
    cat sexual behavior - after neutering!!  And, he's VERY discrete
    about it all.
      He may turn out to be a big help to Bonnie before we're ready
    to breed her but after she's old enough to go into heat.  Then
    again, Exotics aren't known for their incredible brain power -
    he may just always prefer the cat-bed.  
      Nancy DC

    P.S.  PHIL - You're a BRAT!!

    
    HUH! Nancy,you're..........quite right*8-)

    re: Brat -
    
      I think its a sex linked trait in humans.  Located on the Y gene.
    
    In cats it seems to be breed related with Scottish folds getting
    far more than their share.
    
      Nancy DC

    
    Re;Brat indeed!
    
    "    
    In cats it seems to be breed related with Scottish folds getting
    far more than their share.
    
      Nancy DC "
    
    Thats nothing,your scottish folds have nothing on a PURE bred Mothball!
    Why even when I went home at lunchtime MB was on his way out for
    an afternoon clandestine meeting with a member of the fair sex and
    thats after coming home at 7.00am this morning! This boy has got
    staminer! He reminds me of myself a little..;-)
    
    Scottish Folds indeed! Send them to the Mothball school of rampant
    education for a week and then watch the boys ggggggoooooooo!!!;-)))))))
    
    Phil{}
    

    "This boy has got staminer! He reminds me of myself a little..;-)"
    
    Now really Phil!!   Any fantasy in this notesfile is supposed to
    be cat related!  (And that's staminA)
    
    
    
    "Scottish Folds indeed! Send them to the Mothball school of rampant
    education for a week and then watch the boys ggggggoooooooo!!!;-)))))))
    
    Phil{} "
    
    I'm not sure how much Dundee would benefit at this point and I"m 
    certainly not going to let Bonnie get anywhere near your gang of
    hoodlums!  Now my innocent little Bonnie Bairn MacTavish.  
    
     Nancy DC   ;-)

    
    ""  Now my innocent little Bonnie Bairn MacTavish."""
    
    Now Nancy,thats NoT my etc etc!!! Touche'!!!!
    
    Gang of hoodlums indeed,just cos youve got a cissy bunch of kilt
    wearing Kitties;-)))  
             

    
    Oh,and just a small announcement for you all as I'm feeling rather
    good today,and take this as an invite if anyone is in the U.K.on
    November 3rd 1990.............
    
    
       jane & I are getting married! 
    
    There you go,at the ripe old age of 26 my single life will be over.
    Just thought you may like to know.
    
    Bye,
    
    Phil.

    
    phil...
    
    interesting that you chose *this* particular note to announce your
    forthcoming nuptials...  ;-)
    
    many congrats to you and jane.
    
    diane, stanley & stella
    

    
    	Diane - you are so right!! :)
    	
    	Phil, it won't belong before you'll be discussing
    	which *human* is going to have which operation - 
    	
    
    	can you say  `snip-snip', Phil??? :P
    

    It's the humane thing to do, Phil. You'll be happier.
    
    ...probably fill out in a day or two. No problem.
    
    :^)
    
    Edd

    Yes Phil - you won't wander as far and you won't get into fights
    with other men  ;-)
    
    You know how men's personalities are tied to their hormones.
    
    
    re: cissy kilt wearing kitties  -  Don't let Isis hear you say
    that.  She's one "butch" kitty.   Too bad we don't have Jesse around
    to put you in your place!

    Hey, maybe I ought to make Phil a fake-fur catbed for a wedding
    present  8-DDDDDD

    Nancy,
    
    Your too much!!!!!  ;-)
    
    cin...

    re: .20
    
    Nancy,
    	
    Jesse says he'd be glad to help out but he's got a whole lot of
    eating and sleeping to catch up on, and he says that he knows that
    his 'old gang' can do allright for themselves.
    
    Kirk
    

    It's all PHIL's fault!!!  He brings out these sorts of responses!!
    (Part of his charm, I suppose)  What an effect.  Good thing he's
    in the UK or I'd be incorrigible!!
      Nancy DC
    
    p.s. Kirk - tell Jesse I said thanks for the offer.  The gang
    has gone a bit "soft" without Jess to whip them into shape every
    day.  No competition at feeding time, don'cha'know.

    Nancy,
    
    You mean Flame doesn't provide enough competition???  ;-)
    
    cin
    

    
    Look at this,I have one day off and ALL THIS SMUT appears.
    
    Any chance of a blond fake-fur? ;-)
    
    And whoever asked if I could say snip-snip,the answer is...
    
                         Nowayhozay;-(

    re: .25 - Well, Flame is far too polite and good natured.
    If its there he'll eat it - in fact, if it doesn't move he'll
    try to eat it, but he just doesn't grumble and complain like Jesse
    did and lets face it, that pushed in face just isn't very ferocious
    looking.  
      In fact, Flame is so polite that he's just sit and politely
    wait for his portion of my meal.  He only pushes on my legs 
    (Fairly frequently) to remind me.  In the mean time, Bob and
    Bonnie are trying to climb into my plate!!!  (The wild-cat and
    the kitten - we ARE in training).
    
    re: .26 - Lets see, the one we currently has is more of a beige.  I'll
    see what I can do about the blond, Phil.  How do you feel about
    red-heads?  And Jack has demanded that I make him one too!
    
    And never mind this "affected shock" -
    
    "Look at this,I have one day off and ALL THIS SMUT appears."
    
    There's no way you're that innocent and we know it!  Or is this a big
    act for your lady?   ;-)
    

    C'mon Phil - you know the population problem we have around Reading.
    
    And it would save on the poll tax :-)
    
    Congrats to you and Jane.
    
    Kate