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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
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2778.0. "What is Siamese?" by RHODES::HACHE (burning my hand on the lamp) Fri Aug 18 1989 16:20

    
    
    I hate to sound ignorant, but I've never thought about cats much,
    so I don't know the first thing about them, not even about my own.
    
    I know he's a sealpoint siamese, but I hear other terms thrown 
    around...lynx, blue, chocolate etc.  Can anyone enlighten me?  I'd
    like to learn more about other "asian" cats as well.  
    
    adTHANKSvance
    
    dm & Benjamin
    
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2778.1some informationWR2FOR::CORDESBRO_JOFri Aug 18 1989 18:0254
    Siamese refers to the breed.  A Siamese cat has a particular pattern
    of color on the coat.  That is that the face, legs, ears, and tail
    are in a color that is different than the coat.  The pattern is
    sometimes refered to as siamese in the case of non-purebreds.  It
    is also refered to as pointing, masking, and sometimes himilayan.
    The important thing to note about the pattern is that is is restricted
    to the extremities of the cat, the face, legs, ears, and tail.
    
    The points come in many colors and and patterns.  There is seal
    point, blue point, chocolate point, and lilac point (also called frost 
    in some associations).  Those are the basic colors.  Other colors are red
    point, and cream point.  Lynx point means that the cats extremities
    are colored, but with the tabby pattern.  In this case, the tabby
    markings are confined to only the head, ears, legs and tail.  There
    is also tortie point.  Tortie point means that the cat is
    tortoiseshell, but only on the extremities.
    
    The to complicate it further, Lynx points can be different colors,
    blue lynx point (gray stripings), seal lynx point, chocolate lynx
    point, lilac lynx point.  Also, tortie points can be seal tortie
    points (seal and red), chocolate tortie points, or blue cream points.
    
    So, with your cat, sealpoint refers to the color he has on his
    extremities, and Siamese is the breed of cat that he is.
    
    I breed Birmans, who are also a pointed cat, but they are longhairs
    and have white feet.  Birmans currently are only recognized in four
    colors, blue, seal, chocolate, and lilac (in CFA).
    
    Other breeds of pointed cats:
    
    Balinese - longhaired siamese
    
    Javanese - the name that CFA has given to lynx pointed Balinese
    
    Oriental shorthair - in CFA, lynx pointed Siamese compete in this
    class, along with Siamese who are not pointed.
    
    Himilayan - In CFA, these cats are called Persians.  They are blue
    point persian, seal point persian, etc.  In other associations,
    Himilayan is a breed in itself.
    
    Exotic shorthair - they are now recognized by CFA in the pointed
    pattern.  An Exotic Shorthair is a short haired Persian cat. (or
    as I like to call them, a Persian in it's underwear).
    
    Ragdoll - this breed is not recognized by CFA, but it can come in
    pointed patterns.  They also come in mitted (with white feet), and
    bi-color patterns.
    
    I probably forgot a breed or two, but basically I think you have
    a good idea of what a pointed cat is now.
                                                         
    Jo
2778.2Cat's Point of ViewSTAR::DMARTINTue Aug 22 1989 13:0935
    Hi,
    
    Jo gave a wonderful and learned dissertation on Siamese cats.  But Jo,
    as good as you are I think you left out the best traits of the breed.
    
    Being Siamese is mostly and attitude!!  I know because I am One!!!
    
    I'm an all black Siamese, and I am the most elegant cat there is.  I
    love to show people how smart I am, even if it makes Mummie look dumb,
    and there isn't an art object ever created that is more beautiful than
    I am.  I know, I've checked out all the man made stuff that ever came
    into my world, and I'm better.
    
    I'm a very intellegent cat.  I can sit and think for hours, Mummie says
    I have the problems of the world solved, but I won't tell, you humans
    must work these things out for yourselves.
    
    I'm also quite an athlete.  I can jump and run like the wind and do
    acrobatics that are both gracefull and funny!!
    
    I also like to cuddle with Mummie and Daddy.  I'm definetaly a lap cat
    especially with MY humans, I'm friendly and I like the poeple that come
    to visit me, but I don't want them to get too familiar, after all, I am
    not a common cat, I won't be pawed by just any human.  But I will sit
    and converse, if the human is also intellegent.
    
    So if you have a Siamese cat please consider yourself privleged that a
    cat of distenction has choosen you to be his/her human.  That makes you
    rather special you know.
    
    Bye for Meow,
    
    Panther, (As told to Sue,(Mummie) Panther doesn't type english)
    
    
2778.3verifiedVAXWRK::SKALTSISDebWed Aug 23 1989 19:314
    Interesting; MY C.L. Panther and his twin sister Eirene have told me the
    same exact thing!
    
    Deb
2778.4Great Cats BatmanSTAR::DMARTINThu Aug 24 1989 15:387
    Deb,
    
    The scarey part is ALL of them ARE RIGHT!!
    
    Feline spooky,
    
    Sue & Panther & Spot too!
2778.5We are Si-a-meeese if you please...VAXWRK::SKALTSISDebThu Aug 24 1989 20:104
    Anybody out there remember the words to the Siamese cat song in Lady
    and the Tramp?

    Deb
2778.6The things one remembers!VAXWRK::LEVINEThu Aug 24 1989 20:2110
RE:  2778.5 by VAXWRK::SKALTSIS "Deb" 

	We are Siamese, if you please;
	We are Siamese, if you don't please;
	We are former residents of Siam;
	There is no finer cat than I am.

That's as much as I remember.  The tune was real whiney.

Pam
2778.7CRUISE::NDCNancy Diettrich-Cunniff-I wanted it allFri Aug 25 1989 11:237
    I think that song was the first time tracks were recorded
    separately.  both voices were sung by the same person.  The
    first voice was recorded on a reel-to-reel tape recorder
    then played back while the singer (Peggie Lee?) sang the second
    voice and both were recorded at the same time.  (Little bit of
    trivia)
      Nancy
2778.8Correct wordsUSEM::MCQUEENEYCommon of Mass.-Duke got the WEALTHMon Aug 28 1989 15:0211
    
    
    	We are Siamese, if you please.
    
    	We are Siamese, if you don't please.
    
    	We are former residents of Siam.
   
    	No one is as beautiful as I am.
    
    
2778.9second verseCASPRO::SPINNEYMon Aug 28 1989 15:4610
    
    
            We are Siamese if you please.
            We are Siamese if you don't please.
            Now we looking over our new domicile.
            If we like we stay for maybe quite a while.
    
    
    Fran