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    maybe try the yellow banana flavored stuff - given in does of once
    a week for 3 weeks - or once a week for 2 weeks.  Does he go out?
    is he eating stuff outside like mice or ???

My son picked my the medicine last night and we went thru our usual struggle
of getting the pills into him -- yes he goes out on occasion and being the 
hunter he is I'm sure that squirels, rabbits, etc. fall prey to him.
I realize that being an indoor/outdoor cat that I will have to continue
dealing with this.

>>    maybe try the yellow banana flavored stuff - given in does of once
>>    a week for 3 weeks - or once a week for 2 weeks.  

 I'll ask my vet about this stuff, although I'm not looking forward to 
giving this stuff to the original tiger!!  Thanks.

Marian

    
    I had wormed my kitten along with all the other cats.
    The kitten was underweight and didn't seem to be getting any bigger
    even after worming.
    
    The vet said that by sharing a litter box with other cats, the kitten
    might have become reinfected.  I don't know whether you have other
    cats or not.
    
    Have you had a stool sample tested?  It could be he has not just
    round worms, but maybe tapeworm or some other parasite.
    
    

    
>>    Have you had a stool sample tested?  It could be he has not just
>>    round worms, but maybe tapeworm or some other parasite.
  
	This is next after his second dose of the medicine -- but its going
to really difficult as I do have four other cats.

    
    

    I've dealt with roundworm a couple of times and I believe
    this is one that can be difficult to eradicate.  The
    treatment I'm familiar with is to pill the cat twice, the
    second pill following the first one by 3 weeks.  It's
    important to give this second pill on time.  You should
    then get a stool sample 2 or 3 weeks after the second pill
    is given to see if it did the trick.  
    
    If the first round of pills doesn't work, and you don't
    know/realize it for awhile, the worm has a chance to re-
    populate to it's original level and when you have to
    retreat, you're starting from square one again.  After
    you deworm him again, get a stool sample evaluated shortly
    afterward.
    
    Elaine - The only time I've had the liquid banana stuff
    was for coccidia.  I have no idea what is really is. 
    Do you?
    
    
    Donna
    wait a while the worm populationyou can
    re-treat immediately and hopefully this second treatment
    will 

    re: 5
      
    That's what I was given for round worms - I forget what the
    name of the stuff is.  I usually do the house once a year.
    No one goes out and I don't (I don't want to say this too
    loud cause the fleas may hear me) have a you-know-what-
    problem (you know, the "f" word), but the vet thinks
    cause of the number of kids, it doesn't hurt to do them
    once a year.
    
    E.T.

    We used Albon for coccidia once, and it is a yellow liquid, although
    I don't remember if it smelled like bananas.  Some vets give Strongit
    and some give Nemex for roundworms.  They are not easy to get rid
    of.  I agree with the stool sample idea.  I have found the easiest
    way to get a stool sample is to feed the cat, then put it in the
    bathroom with a sparkling clean litterbox.  How many cats do you
    know that will pass up a chance to be the first one in a newly cleaned
    box?  Especially in a multicat household.
    
    Jo

Here's the update -- Midnight gets his second dosage on Saturday -- then
10 days after that I have to get a stool sample -- thanks Jo - what a
great idea - that resolved my problem of making sure the sample was
Midnight's.  I told my son he had "poopy patrol", now I'm sure he'll be
pleased it'll be this easy.

Thanks for all your help and let's hope we've got them this time.

		Marian

	... Kevin is taking our two for their first visit to the V-E-T
	tomorrow.  He was told to bring a stool sample, but that it
	doesn't matter from which kitty; if either one has it, they
	both do.  I suppose that's possible, but it seems sloppy to 
	me.  Any opinions?

	Thanks,
	Beverly

    *Usually*, if one has it they both do, but not always.  I would
    take a sample of each kitty, clearly marked with each's name.
    Tapeworms are from fleas, so one can have them while another doesn't.
    Most other worms are highly contagious in shared litterboxes.
    
    Another tip for keeping the internal parasites down, be sure to
    scoop the lumps out of the box a minimum of once each day.  Most
    of the parasites need to incubate in the stool for twenty four hours
    before becoming infective.  By scooping the stool out of the box,
    you are removing the potential of worms being transmitted via the
    litterbox.  
    
    Jo

    re: scooping - I didn't know that :-)  Thanks Jo

	I didn't get a chance to see the replies until this morning, so
	they went with just one sample.  It had worms (not sure what type),
	so they both get meds for that and for ear mites (no surprise to 
	me; Copernicus has been scratching the left ear a lot).  Kevin said 
	they were very good at the vets, and didn't even fuss when they got
	their shots!  They were both very affectionate when they got home,
	too -- surprising from Coper, who usually wants to be close, but 
	isn't into all that touchy feely stuff.  Chrysalis is a hug junkie
	all the time.

	Anyway, thanks for the comments, and the advice about the litterbox.
	I've been scooping it every few days, but I'll try to do it daily
	now.

	Beverly

    It figures, I get lucky .13
    
    Our cat, Nikita, under 4 months old, has got worms, we gave him meds, 
    absolutely keep him out of the bedroom, but even after meticulous 
    housekeeping, litterbox cleaning, etc., is there a chance we (humans) 
    can become infected?  If so, what to do?
    
    Also, we feed him wet food (he won't eat dry or semi-dry food) and
    he's got gargantuan flatulence and bad breath.  Help! 
    
    Hoping for a miracle!
    
    Sabonn

    Sabonn,
    
    It depends on what type of worms he has.  Some of them are easeir
    for humans to get than others.  Sounds like you have covered all
    your bases and so, you don't have to worry.  I don't think that
    you need to keep him out of your bedroom though.  Most of the types
    of worms that you could catch from him would have to be ingested
    by you.  Now, most people will not knowingly ingest that type of
    thing, but I think that kissing the kitten on the lips might not
    be a good idea til your sure that the worms are gone.
    
    About the canned food... since he is still young, his resistance
    to dry may be related to it hurting his teeth.  When I wean kittens
    off of canned food and onto dry, I mix a couple of tablespoons of
    canned with about 1/4 cup of dry and feed them that for a few days.
    I gradually decrease the amount of canned food til they are eating
    all dry food.
    
    PS - can you make it to the West Coast Feliners Party?  It will
    be the weekend of the 22nd and 23rd, but the actual date is not
    yet known.

    Thanks for responding so soon!  I promise not to kiss him on the 
    lips, especially when his breath is so bleccchhh.  I've been delaying
    taking him to the vet until he's old enough to neuter, but with
    all the physiological upheavals he's got, plus he needs all his
    shots, I think I'll take him in as soon as possible.
    
    He's another stray.  We moved to Cupertino and we can have pets.
    When Nikita showed up, we tried to find his family, but no one came
    forward to claim him.  We've decided to keep him, despite the 
    egadosmellific fartronomical humongosplosions.
    
    Sabonn  

    Sabonn, 
    
    If you are using over the counter worming medications, my
    recommendation would be to trash those and take him and a stool
    sample to the vet for a checkup.  Those over the counter meds aren't
    as effective as the prescription ones the vet gives.  He will need
    to have two shots, one now and then one three weeks later.
    
    Congratulations on being able to have a cat now!  That is great.
    Can you come to the party?
    
    Jo

I seem to remember that bad breath and, to put it delicately, intestinal
disturbances of a gaseous nature may be side effects of the worms..right?
I'm wondering because of a friend's question....

				D

    That's what I have heard too.
    
    Jo

    Well, as things would have it, Nikita is not feeling well.  I think
    it has something to do with the medicine I gave him.  He is going
    to the vet next week for the whole shebang; shots, neuter, (if it's
    time) and checkup, etcetera.  The poor guy doesn't have an appetite
    at all.  Plus, I've never seen a more finicky eater, even when he's
    well.
    
    Point me in the direction of the information about the Party.  I
    don't know when, where, etcetera.
    
    Thanks for everything!
    
    Sabonn

    See note 2588 for information about the West Coast Feliners Party.
    
    Jo

    Thanks for the info!  Nikita is much better, he's got his appetite
    back and he's back to sprint-cat racing!
    
    Sabonn
    

    Jo,
    
    My husband and I were previously invited elsewhere on that day and
    we have already accepted.  Sorry to miss the party but I hope you 
    all have a blast!
    
    Blessings,
    Sabonn