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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

2395.0. "strange siamese mixture" by VAXRIO::ROLF () Fri Apr 21 1989 18:35

    wonder if anyone else has ever seen a TRUE mixture between a siamese
    and 'regular' cat? I alwas told (and convinced) that a mixture of
    the above would either turn out ALL siamese or ALL 'regular'.
    
    Not until last weekend when I found a grown up male which definitely
    was a TRUE mixture:
    
    black nose, then away from the nose white, then siamese type coffee,
    then siamese dark ears and tail. The rest of the body patched white
    and coffee coloured. Any Oh yes, blue eyes.
    
    What really got me was that each of the front paws had 6 claws instead
    of the regular 5, making the paw looking rounded and markedly  larger
    than a regular cats paws.  I did not check if the rear paws
    were different.
    
    Rolf
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2395.1BOSHOG::LEWISFri Apr 21 1989 18:514
         Ours certainly appears to have some Siamese in her.
    
    
    Bob
2395.2YOSMTE::CORDESBRO_JOFri Apr 21 1989 19:312
    
    	
2395.3Siamese and ??? maybeANT::MPCMAILFri Apr 21 1989 20:077
    My mom's cat: was born of a ratter, in a paperboard factory.
     It has a lump at the end of his tail, and eyebrows all four 
    it feet are doubled. and has sort fur, *but* it's all grey with
    a white bib. and weighs usally about 18lbs. we joke about carving
    the cat instead of the turkey each year.
    
    Lise
2395.4Fat Siamese Turkey!VAXRIO::ROLFMon Apr 24 1989 12:4520
    Re .3 - Very interesting, but your reply was sort of truncated or
    maybe a line missing.  Could you please correct it as it seems to
    have some interesting info.
    
    Re the hump at the end of the tail. That seems to be "almost" normal
    for siamese cats (ours is supposedly pure and has a nick at the
    end of its tail).
    
    I used to live in Indonesia at one time and all the regular cats
    had nicks and humps or just short tails and in the beginning we
    thought it was to blame on people, until our household had kittens
    and they were no different!
    
    Wonder if any siamese breeder out there could confirm what I wrote
    above (that deformed tails are a sign of purity in siamese cats;
    I don't quite believe it myself.
    
    Rolf, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
        
    
2395.5we called them the TeabagsYODA::HUTCHESONMon Apr 24 1989 15:2317
    When I was living with my parents we had three cats from the same
    litter. The mother was Siamese. Shadow was all black, no white
    hairs at all. His leather and pads were completely black. His face
    and ears were Siamese in appearance and his body and fur were very
    sleek. Smokey was as purely gray as Shadow was black, but he had
    no apparent Siamese features. His coat was not as sleek as Shadow's
    and he grew to be rather fat. Tango was black and white. Not black
    with white or white with black. Where he was black he was very black
    and where he was white he was very white. His coat was sleek like
    Shadow's but his build was more like Smokey's. His nose was pink
    and black. I don't recall the color of his pads. None of them had
    anything unusual about their tails. But, as for unusual tales, at
    night Shadow was wont to climb on the neighbor's roof (how???) and
    howl until Mrs Mulvaney let Becky, their spayed female Siamese, out.
  
    
                                         Susan
2395.6kinks=faultJULIET::APODACA_KII'm here without a name...Mon Apr 24 1989 15:3911
    it is my understanding that kinks in the tail of any kind are
    considered a fault in showing Siamese.  And as I have a cat that
    I don't think is Siamese (well, he meows like one but that's it),
    and he has a kink in his tail, and as I have seen other cats with
    kinks (natural, rather than someone stepped on em), I don't think
    kinks are mutally exclusive to Siamese.....tho I have heard that
    it was a "sign" like .4 said.....
    
    any siamese showers which to clarify/correct? :)
    
                                                                ---kim
2395.7YOSMTE::CORDESBRO_JOMon Apr 24 1989 18:326
    Kim is right, kinks equal faults in any breed.  Breeders are working
    very hard to remove that gene from their gene pool.  A kink doesn't
    mean a cat is pure siamese, it just means that it's ancestors carried 
    the fault.  Kinks can show up in any breed, and in mixed breed cats.
    
    Jo
2395.8Siamese Sam??NICLUS::MTAGTue Apr 25 1989 14:496
    When we got my mom's cat (17 years ago), we were told that he was part
    Siamese.  Sam is a Mackeral-Striped Tabby and has absolutely no traits
    of a Siamese.... except his meow.  The vet calls him "the cat with the
    big mouth"!
    
    Mary
2395.9Siamese lookalikeUSWAV1::SHATTUCKFri Apr 28 1989 20:3615
    I have a siamese mix, who looks siamese.  Her mother was a full
    Siamese, owned by Roberta Tedford, Roberta also owns collies, but
    the father of the babies is an unknown.  When the kittens were born
    I mentioned to Roberta I was looking for a siamese, she told me
    her cat had just had kittens and they looked siamese, but there
    were not full-blooded.  Samantha has al the markings of the breed,
    but had a full white stomach and white legs with what look like
    freckles all over here legs.  She has alot of siamese characteristics
    also, except for the cry.  She never talks, something I miss because
    I love when the talk.  Sam mostly purrs.  She is also very over-weight,
    she's been on diet food, to no avail.  She is now approximately
    7 years old and happy.  She stays indoors and loves to sit on our
    porch in the summer.  Most people who see Sam thinks she is just
    the most unusual cat they have ever seen.  She's great!!