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| 2053.1 | spraying and neutering | CRUISE::NDC | | Mon Dec 12 1988 12:19 | 10 |
| It may or may not. The problem with waiting to get mail cats neutered
is that some of the behaviors that are triggered by hormones become
habit. Spraying is one of them. Depending upon his age and how
long he has been spraying he may or may not stop after being neutered.
Obviously the younger the cat the better the chances that neutering
will stop the behavior.
One thing is for sure tho, it won't smell as bad even if he keeps
spraying.
Nancy DC
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| 2053.2 | Song for the day.... | CRUISE::NDC | | Mon Dec 12 1988 12:24 | 27 |
| Your note reminded me of a wonderful song I once heard. (Oh and
I know, that should have been male, not mail in my last reply.
Guess my brain is frozen today)
Verse 1:
My kitty-cat has her favorite chair
Where she sits and licks her hair.
Sometimes she'll just sit and stare,
at things that are not even there.
Chorus:
Oh my kitty, oh my kitty, oh my kitty-cat,
my kitty, oh my kitty, oh my kitty-cat.
Oh my kitty, oh my kitty, oh my kitty-cat,
my kitty, oh my kitty, oh my kitty-cat.
Verse2:
When she comes into heat, she does it well.
She stands right up and starts to yell.
All the Tom-cats, they can tell.
They make the backdoor smell like hell.
Chorus.
I can't remember who wrote it or sang it. I've only heard the song
once, but it obviously made an impression.
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| 2053.3 | top 10 | FDCV16::JOHNSON | | Tue Dec 13 1988 14:20 | 5 |
| Tee, hee, ha, ha ... Nan, it'll never make top 10.
Just yankin' your chain.
BJ
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| 2053.4 | Maybe I'll start charging him rent | WITNES::MACONE | It's the story of a man named Brady | Tue Dec 13 1988 15:50 | 11 |
| This cat does not spray on my porch (At least I think he doesn't
- I _would_ be able to smell it wouldn't I?) Instead, he sits there
and tries to pick fights with my cats whenever they want to come
home. He hisses and yowls, and his hair stands on end, and he'll
lash out at my guys when they try to come up the stairs. So, I
have to go outside, chase him downstairs and out of the yard.
Far from a fun chore.
Any other ideas out there?
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| 2053.5 | Spray Bottle? | WORDS::STUDLEY | | Tue Dec 13 1988 16:14 | 6 |
| How about the old spray bottle? Just give him a squirt or 2 when
you see him on your porch and he should get the hint after a couple
of times. I know it's a little cold to get him wet right now, but....
And, yes, you would deffinitely be able to smell it if he was spraying!
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| 2053.6 | What can you do... | CRUISE::NDC | | Wed Dec 14 1988 10:54 | 10 |
| I've seen the have-a-heart traps recommended in other notes. It
may be that the only way to deal with this cat is to catch him and
take him to a shelter. I HATE to recommend this since I now what
happens to them in shelters, but if the alternative is your cats
being injured you may have to consider this.
If you want to invest the money, you could use the have-a-heart
to catch him and have him neutered. That may help the fighting.
I have some applications for FRIENDS OF ANIMALS and K & H SPAY for
low cost neutering, if you're interested.
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| 2053.7 | Forever curious... :^) | TPVAX1::ROBBINS | | Wed Dec 14 1988 11:20 | 10 |
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Just out of curiousity (cuz I love to know what people feel
and think) what does happen in shelters? These aren't fighting
words at all I'm just curious as to why you would hate to recommend
a shelter? I'm just as guilty as anyone cuz all the strays I've
found the last resort would be my area shelter but I think my reasons
may be different.
Kim
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| 2053.8 | What happens at shelters......... | CRUISE::NDC | | Wed Dec 14 1988 17:22 | 41 |
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re: .7
Every year over $1 million dollars is spent just to euthanize unwanted
dogs and cats in this country! That's $1 Million just to kill the
animals, that doesn't include any of the money that goes into taking
care of those animals.
At good shelters like the MSPCA (Boston animal shelter) what
generally happens is that a stray is checked over and treated for any
minor illnesses. They are then put into a cage if one is available.
When the shelter runs out of room the animals that have been there the
longest are put to sleep to make room for the new ones. If an animal
is sick, it is put to sleep pretty much immediately. Older cats and
dogs usually don't get adopted because people want puppies and
kittens. The chances of an older animal getting adopted are very very
poor.
The adoption rate in general is pretty low. I forget the exact
figures, but its something like 5% or 10% of the animals brought in
that actually find homes.
There have also been so called Shelters that abuse the animals.
The money that is donated to these places finds its way into the
pockets of the person running the place and doesn't go into food and
care for the animals. Some shelters sell the pets to people who turn
around and sell the pets to research labs. (called POUND SEIZURE)
There was some legislation that would have banned this practice. I
don't know where that stands right now. In actuality, the research
done on pets is of little practical value because of the uncontrolled
conditions - they have no idea of the animal's history etc.
On the other side are the "No-Kill" shelters. Like Kitty Angels and
Tree House Animal Foundation (Chicago) and Felines, Inc (also in
Chicago). They do not put the animals to sleep (hence the name
no-kill), and Tree House will go to great lengths to cure a sick or
injured animal, but the trade off is that they must limit the number
of animals they take.
Does that answer your questions?
Nancy DC
p.s. So no you understand why I said I hated to suggest a shelter.
Taking such an animal to a shelter almost guarantees that it will
be put to sleep.
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| 2053.9 | He's starting to grow on me | WITNES::MACONE | Round Up the Usual Suspects | Thu Dec 22 1988 12:55 | 15 |
| Well, this guy is still ahnging around on my porch, and still being
obnoxious. I've been reading the Cocoa's male rider note, and that
seems to be a similar problem.
If I want to trap this guy, I wouldn't need a trap - I could just
walk over and pick him up since this guy is friendly with humans.
I'm almost positive that he has a home with one of my neighbors,
so I have no right to bring him to a shelter. So, I've been debating
about bringing this guy in to my vet and get him neutered. But,
then since this guy has an owner, I have no right to do that. And
he really isn't causing that much harm - he isn't hurting anybody.
Tough decisions to make.
-Nacy
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| 2053.10 | Get the message? | VAXWRK::SIMON | Hugs Welcome Anytime! | Thu Dec 22 1988 16:37 | 5 |
| re: .-1
This is just a thought and it might not work but if the cat has a
collar, why don't you affix a "Dear Owner" note to his collar and
explain the problem and hope the owner gets the message.
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| 2053.11 | Maybe try winning him over to your side? | BCSE::GOGOLIN | | Thu Dec 22 1988 19:05 | 26 |
| Re: .9
Nancy,
I agree that if he has owners you shouldn't bring him to a shelter.
And I agree -- though not as strongly -- that if he has owners you
shouldn't have him neutered. However, there are responsibilities
that go along with the right to own a pet. One of them is the
responsibility to control the animal so that it is not a nuisance
to other people.
In your case it seems the cat isn't so much of a problem that you
can't live with it. If he were being really obnoxious, I would
probably go ahead and whisk him off to the vet for a little operation.
I guess the right thing to do would be to talk to the owners before
resorting to that, but I wouldn't have high hopes that they'd do
anything. If the owners cared about their cat's behavior, I think
he'd already be "fixed" or otherwise under control.
Are you sure he isn't already neutered? Wouldn't he spray if he
wasn't? I don't have a lot of knowledge in this area. As time goes
on, maybe he'll get used to your cats and not bother them at all.
Good luck!
Linda
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| 2053.12 | | SUBURB::TUDORK | SCEADUGENGA | Fri Dec 23 1988 11:41 | 7 |
| Neutered males do spray, so do neutered females if they are
sufficiently disturbed. Tarot is sufficiently upset at the moment
by an unneutered tom cat which keeps coming into our house and spraying
that he is tending to do it too - an awful fag to keep cleaning
up after him.
If I catch that tomcat I know what he'll be getting for Christmas.
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| 2053.13 | | FSHQA1::RWAXMAN | A Cat Makes a Purrfect Friend | Wed Dec 28 1988 00:25 | 19 |
| Nancy,
You could write to Friends of Animals and get a neuter certificate
for $20 (includes everything) and present it to the owners.
I don't want to sound gruesome here but it is a fact that neutered
cats do roam. The last of my ferals, (Daddy Kitty) who avoided the
Hav-A-Hart trap like the plague, was found by my fiance quite a
distance from our development lying in the middle of the road.
He was hit and killed by a passing motorist. Although he wasn't
"my" cat, the impact of his death hit me as if he was.
If your neigbors truly care about the welfare of their cat, they
will not object to neutering him. It is good that they have neighbors
like you who care enough to intervene.
/Roberta
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| 2053.14 | I'm up to 4 now | WITNES::HANNULA | Cat Tails & Bike Wheels Don't Mix | Fri Mar 17 1989 10:59 | 21 |
| It's been a while since I started this note, but I wanted to update
everybody. I guess I have to say that I now have a fourth cat.
Earlier this week, I ran into my neighbor, who I thought Mouth (That's
what I named him since he always meows at me) belonged to. This
neighbor told me that Mouth just showed up this winter and that
sometimes he feeds him, but in no way was Mouth his cat. So, I
was a softy and started feeding him this week. And as the old saying
goes, once you feed a cat, he's yours.
Mouth doesn't hang around on my porch as much any more, prefering
to play in the neighbors yard. He has gotten pretty skittish, so
I'm going to wait a little while before I whisk him off to the vet
for a little operation. For the most part, Mouth is going to remain
an outdoor only cat. Portia still hasn't adapted to Elmo yet and
we got Elmo last September so I don't want to upset Porty any more.
Portia will play with Mouth outside, but starts hissing when he
gets up on our steps. WE have lots of shelter outside, so I'm not
to worried. I'll still make sure that he doesn't get rained on
or freeze to death though.
-Nancy, Portia, Oscar, Elmo and Mouth
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