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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

1322.0. "Dogs eating cats; what can be done?" by CLOSUS::HOE (Colorado's the place to be.) Mon May 02 1988 19:50

    Our neighbors lost a cat to two dobermans next door. The dobies
    are all bark and very little else cause they love to get petted.
    
    Problem is, the cat bacame a quick meal for them and now, most of
    the neighborhood is up at arms. Is there a way to get the dobies
    evicted or do we have to loose a kid before they get evicted? We
    have an older cat that likes to tease; knowing this, she's being
    kept indoors until we're home.
    
    /cal
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1322.1CARMEL::KOLLINGKaren, Sweetie, & Holly; in Calif.Mon May 02 1988 20:328
    Does your community have a "leash law" -- i.e., they have to be
    either leashed or else confined to a yard?  That helps the kids,
    and to some extent cats who might then be able to get away from
    them.  If so and the dogs were not "leashed", you can call what
    ever agency enforces this -- humane society or police.  What steps
    they will take may vary from a first-time warning to something else.
    
1322.2NAC::LACOURTue May 03 1988 15:0020
    We had a similar problem at our condo complex about 3 or 4 years
    ago.  My neighbor's dog (a Peek-a-poo) was eaten by a Rotwiler (sp?)
    and then the neighbor put Rufus in a trash bag and threw him in
    a construction sight.  Sick, huh?  The Rotwiler owner completely
    denied this at first, and then somewhat admitted it.  My neighbor
    complained to both the condo association and police, particularly
    since not only did this guy own a Rotwiler, but 2 Dobermans!!! 
    To my knowledge, nothing was done although lots of people complained.
    Not long after, these people moved.
    
    I think between the police, the humane society and possibly the
    local newspaper or TV news, something can be done about this and
    really brought to the public's attention.  If there is enough publicity
    on this, maybe the police will take action.  My feeling is that
    once an animal that normally isn't a "hunter" tastes blood, there
    may be a continuing problem.
    
    Good luck.
    Mary
    
1322.3blame depends on circumstancesTHE780::WILDEBeing clever is tiring..Tue May 03 1988 21:2126
>    Problem is, the cat bacame a quick meal for them and now, most of
>    the neighborhood is up at arms. Is there a way to get the dobies
>    evicted or do we have to loose a kid before they get evicted? We
>    have an older cat that likes to tease; knowing this, she's being
>    kept indoors until we're home.
    
If the cats are running loose and get into the dogs yard, the dogs
are not at fault...the owners of the cats are at fault for letting the cats
invade the dogs' territory.  If the dogs are running loose, then they should
be reported to animal control immediately.
However, it still remains obvious that the
cat would not have been killed had it not been running loose...this is a risk
that owners of out-door kitties have obviously decided is acceptable.

Another point, there is no evidence that the dogs are dangerous to children
because they behaved in a normal, instinctive manner when it came to a
strange cat.  Dogs can be taught to live with specific cats, but that
does not mean they will be gentle with "strange" cats.
In the great outdoors, small animals
like domestic felines are on the food chain for larger carnivores like dogs.
Anyone who has lived around a farm or ranch will tell you that.  If a dog
or group of dogs encounter a cat that runs, they will chase and kill...period.
ANY breed of dog will do this.  Children are not cats.

		D_who_owns_both_cats_and_dogs

1322.4TPVAX3::ROBBINSWed May 04 1988 14:5022
    
         I agree wholeheartedly with .3.  Although I have 3 beautiful
    fur balls at home (indoor cats) I feel very badly for the dobies
    IF they are restrained on their own property.  From the base note
    we do not know the circumstances.  If the cat was on the dog's 
    domain -well he shouldn't have been there in the first place.  If
    I were the dog's owner I would be very upset about any cats coming
    unto my property to tease my dogs.  I am not a advocate for outdoor
    kitties.  I think the same rules should apply for cats as well as
    dogs although that day may never come.  I also find it awfully hard
    to swallow that because of attacking the cat that they would be
    a threat to children.  I know of a beatiful dog that killed chickens.
    He never has harmed any other animal when around them or would ever
    harm a human being.  
    
    Maybe if the base noter could give us the whole story then we all
    could see this in the proper light....
    
                             Kim (whose seen too many dead cats on the
                                  side of the road)