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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

1245.0. "what IS this breed, anyway?" by THE780::WILDE (Being clever is tiring..) Tue Apr 05 1988 23:12

I need help fellow feliners...

Hannah is a very pretty cat, cream colored body with points like a siamese,
but the points are orange tabby cat markings (like good old Morris).  She
has big blue eyes, and a pink nose with two freckles on the tip.  I keep
getting asked what breed she is, and I have no clue...so, what breed is
a cream colored cat with an orange and cream colored ring-tail, orange
tabby cat face point, orange tabby cat legs, and orange tabby cat ears?

She does seem to have some definite siamese characteristics, like her
talking, and her personality.  I am assuming she is an intended siamese
cross because normal results of an "oh oh" siamese cross is a cat without
points, but with siamese shape.  Hannah is just the opposite situation,
siamese type markings, but regular cat type shape....I think you have to
breed carefully to get the recessive gene that controls the color points.

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1245.1CIRCUS::KOLLINGKaren, Sweetie, Holly; in Calif.Tue Apr 05 1988 23:253
    Why isn't this pussycat in the picture exchange, that's what I want
    to know.....
    
1245.2I'll ask Hannah about picturesTHE780::WILDEBeing clever is tiring..Wed Apr 06 1988 01:005
re: .-1

I'll take this subject of posing for pictures up with Captain Terror
(Hannah's official title) and see what she says...

1245.3 I'd call it a red tabby pointSCOTCH::FUSCIDEC has it (on backorder) NOW!Wed Apr 06 1988 02:4730
re: 1245.0 -< what IS this breed, anyway? >-

>getting asked what breed she is, and I have no clue...so, what breed is
>a cream colored cat with an orange and cream colored ring-tail, orange
>tabby cat face point, orange tabby cat legs, and orange tabby cat ears?

Gee. . . "I know someone who has a cat just like that at home." 8^)

What you've described, if a pure-bred, is something I'd call a Colorpoint 
Shorthair, in specific, a red lynx point.

>She does seem to have some definite siamese characteristics, like her
>talking, and her personality.

Colorpoint shorthairs are considered siamese by just about everyone.

>I am assuming she is an intended siamese cross

There are lots of breeders working with cats like this.  Just stop by any 
siamese or OSH breeder at any cat show and ask.

>I think you have to breed carefully to get the recessive gene that 
>controls the color points. 

Not really.  All you need to inhibit the color to just the points is the 
"siamese" gene.  In theory, you could start out with your generic orange 
tabby, and a siamese, and eventually get that cat (but not in the first 
generation).

Ray (genetics 'r' us)
1245.4Hope this helpsDSTR17::JACKSONBEV JACKSON @VROWed Apr 06 1988 12:4611
    I may be totally off track, but your cat sounds like a kitten I
    am picking up this weekend.  He is called a tortoise shell siamese.
    He's going to have the orange points with the lighter body.  His
    owner tells me it is a pure-bred siamese.  His mother is a tortoise
    shell with points that are multicolored; his father is a sealpoint.
    She also tells me that the female is the only one that will carry
    the multicolor; the males will usually have the solid color points.
    
    Look in this in note 1223 for more information.  There are a couple
    of notes about tortoise shell siamese.
    
1245.5JULIET::CORDESBRO_JOTue Aug 02 1988 21:087
    re: .4
    
    I think "he" probably isn't a tortoiseshell, that would have to
    be his mother.  If he has stripes then he is probably a lynx point.
    Tortoiseshell is sex linked color.  
    
    Jo