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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

1211.0. "WORRIED ABOUT ASH" by SUBURB::TAYLORS (MINNIE) Thu Mar 24 1988 16:13

    
    I know there are already a couple of entries about ASH in cat food
    but I decided to make a new entry so my concern wouldnt get missed.
    
    Before reading this file I had never heard of ASH in cat food and
    now I am very concerned about the amount of ASH I must have given
    my "boys" in the past.  I have two neutered males!!
    
    When I bought some cat food last night I was careful to read the
    ingredients and shocked to find that for every 100g the lowest quantity
    I could get was 2.0g but the tins were 390g each.  The fish varieties
    were 3.0g per 100g!!  (The varieties I normally buy are Whiskers
    and Kattomeat, they wont eat anything else!)
    
    Am I just over-reacting, as I have never had any problems before??
    
    Please Help
    Sharon
    
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1211.1CIRCUS::KOLLINGKaren, Sweetie, Holly; in Calif.Thu Mar 24 1988 16:165
    I don't know if you're over-reacting.  All three of mine (2 neutered
    males, one neutered female) have had bouts with FUS.  Being on CD
    was the solution.  So I plan to feed this to my cats forever, just
    in case.  
    
1211.2Go for the GoldFSHQOA::RWAXMANThu Mar 24 1988 17:0024
    If you read my base note, #1207, you can see that I, too, am worried
    about feeding my two neutered males "grocery store junk food." 
    They won't eat anything else.  Nikki wouldn't touch his breakfast
    because it wasn't 100% PURE Friskees Buffet (I mixed in 1 part Friskees
    to 1 part Hills C/D).  Chauncey, my big pig, gobbled it down for
    him and I felt so bad for Nikki pitifully looking on that I gave
    in and gave him the rest of the Friskees.
    
    My vet told me that Friskees is okay, as long as the ash content
    listed on the side of the can is below 3%.  If your cats are having
    bouts of FUS, I would seriously recommend going to your vet and
    getting some samples of Hills C/D.  I went to my local vet in Ashland,
    MA, and they willingly gave me samples since I wasn't sure if my
    cats would eat it.  IAMS is wonderful and even looks and smells
    like something I would eat - don't know why my boys turn up their
    noses at it.
    
    Anyway, do try to gradually wean them off of the store bought by
    introducing small amounts of the better quality brands into their
    regular food.  I mix the Hills C/D dry into the Crave real well,
    so they HAVE to eat it to get to the junk stuff.
    
    If yours are already experiencing bouts of FUS, don't take any chances.
    
1211.4Ash can be good...NAC::LACOURThu Mar 24 1988 19:1822
    The Hills CD is great for FUS.  Barney has had FUS problems on and
    off for the last few years, but my other boys aren't bothered. 
    Since feeding him a combination CD & 9-Lives, he hasn't had FUS.
    I've always watched the ash content in store cat food, but last
    year was told that ash contains many good minerals for the cats,
    and that it was discovered that it wasn't so much ash that caused
    FUS, but high levels of magnesium and potassium (I think it's
    potassium).  The CD, though, is loaded with calories, which has
    been mentioned in this conference recently.  When I brought my boys
    in for their yearly checkup last week, I questioned the vet on this
    and she verified it's high in calories.  If your cat tends to eat
    a lot or is on the chubby side (like mine), you might have to find
    an alternative to CD.  I'm seeing the vet again tonight (my guys
    were back for teeth cleaning) and I will ask about an alternative.
    Gonezo weighs 18.6lbs and Barney is up to 19.6 (a 2lb increase)
    so I'm in desparate need of finding another good FUS food.
    
    I'll reply to this note tomorrow and let you guys know what my vet
    says. 
    
    Mary
     
1211.5Abreviations SUBURB::TAYLORSMINNIEFri Mar 25 1988 13:497
    
    Please excuse my ignorance but what does the C/D stand for in Hills
    C/D??
    
    Also what does FUS stand for??
    
    Sharon (confused)
1211.6CIRCUS::KOLLINGKaren, Sweetie, Holly; in Calif.Fri Mar 25 1988 16:564
    FUS = Feline Urological Syndrome
    
    C/D = Canned Diet (I think)
    
1211.7MARKER::KALLISWhy is everyone getting uptight?Fri Mar 25 1988 17:187
    I believe
    
    C/D = Canned/Dry
    
    We use the dry.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
1211.8I wonder what it really means!FIDDLE::GERRYGo Ahead, make me PURRRR...Fri Mar 25 1988 17:317
    I thought C/D was Cystitis Diet.
    
    I used to feed Science Diet Maintenance, now feed nothing but IAMS
    dry.
    
    cin
    
1211.9Cystitis DietVAXWRK::SKALTSISDebFri Mar 25 1988 18:2611
    I believe Cin is correct, Cystitis Diet. All of Hill's Prescription
    Diets have names of the format ?/D, where D stands for Diet and
    the ? stands for what the diet is for. They have a K/D, Kidney Diet
    for cats with deteriorating kidneys, a S/D, Stone Diet for cats
    that get kidney stones, an R/D, Reducing Diet for overweight cats.

    By the way, Prescription Diet is a registered tradmark, and the
    foods marketed under the label of Prescription Diet are only available
    from your vet.
        
    Deb
1211.10Vet suggests Iams...NAC::LACOURFri Mar 25 1988 19:1710
    Well, I went to the vet yesterday to pick up my boys and questioned
    the vet about an alternative to C/D.  She suggested only Iams. 
    I know where my mother lives (in NJ) she can occassionaly get GOFF
    cat food.  This is specifically for low ash diets and is good vs
    junk (ie Cadillac) cat food.  I have not been able to find it around
    the MA area.  I think what I will end up doing is once I'm done
    with my current batch of cat food (combination of 9-Lives, CD, and
    Purina Pro Plan), I'll switch to the Iams for the dry food supplement
    and buy the Hills R/D.