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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

1050.0. "Take care shipping your animals by Air" by AIMHI::UPTON () Thu Jan 21 1988 12:36

    
    
    	I just finished reading an article and thought I should
    share it with you folks, who might ship your cas/dogs by plane.
    There is no date on thi article, so I can't say when it happened,
    but it certainly makes you think twice about shipping an animal
    by plane.  Article to follow:
    
    	The Associated Humane Society received an emergency phone call
    to dispath an ambulance to the freight offices of an airline in
    newark international airport.  An 8 week old Shi Tzu, which was
    being shipped from a breeder in Fort Meyers, Florida to anothr breeder
    in Fair Lawn, N.J. was picked up by the Society's Animal Control
    Oficer along ith its kennel crate.  Due to an ongoing invetigation
    by the U.S. Dept. of Agriculture and discrepancies of how the incident
    occurred, the airline shall not be revealed.
    
    	It is believed that the crate had been taken from the plane
    and placed near the jet engine.  It is theorized that the heat from
    the engine melted the crate which had been left unchecked and untended/
     The intense build-up of heat within the kennel caused the pup to
    be burned, his hair singed over the entire body and burns of th
    neck and chin.  It i not know if here will be any permanent damage
    to the eyes and/or lungs of the pup.  After 2 days of medical treatment
    by Dr. Tavormina at the Society, the breeder took possesion of the
    animal who advised she would transfer treatment to her private vet.
    
    	Although we cannot divulge the name of he airline where this
    took place, it doesn't matter where it occurred.  It could have
    happened at any of the airlines.  Anytime an animal is shipped by
    plane, thee is always the risk of loss, injurym trauma or death.
     Although all airlines ome under the jurisdiction of the U.S. Dept.
    of Agriculture and must abide by the terms of the Aninmal Welfare
    Act, it is very difficult for the U.S.Dept. of Agric. to ensure
    that those common carrier are following the letter of the law. 
    Due to a lack of funds appropriated to the USDA from the Regan Admin.,
    there is a lack of manpower to make the necessary inspection at
    the airports.
    
    	If you are thinking of taking your pets with you on vacation,
    leave them home or boad them.  If you must ship an animal, be ure
    it is a non-stop direct flight and tavel with the animal.  There
    are "priority" shipments of animals that costs more but it's worth
    it!
    
    	Sorry this was so long, but I thought it was something that
    people need to be aware , even though it was a dog in this case,
    it could have easily have been a cat.  
    
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1050.1Sometimes there's no choice!DISSRV::GERRYGo ahead, make me PURRR...Thu Jan 21 1988 14:1314
    Unfortunately, sometimes it is necessary to ship our kitties when
    we can't fly with them.
    
    If you need to ship a cat and can't be with them, PLEASE,PLEASE,PLEASE
    be waiting for the pet when they arrive.  If the airline is aware
    that an animal is coming and there is someone WAITING for it, they
    definitely take better care.  At least this has been my experience.
    
    When I have shipped a cat to someone, I also wait at the cargo area
    with the cat so that it gets put on last thing, just before the
    plane is leaving.  
    
    cin
    
1050.2When you must ship, try P.D.Q.LAIDBK::SHERRICKMolly :^)Thu Jan 21 1988 16:0718
    Whenever I have to ship an animal by plane, I use the P.D.Q. service
    that many of the airlines offer.  When you use this service you
    take the animal to the people check-in counter, and the person picking
    up the animal picks it up at the odd size baggage claim just as
    if they had flown with the animal.  The advantage to this service
    is that you don't need to get the cat to the airport 3 hours ahead
    of time (which many airlines require if shipping from the freight
    office) AND the cat doesn't get left on the loading dock AT ALL.
    The cat is hand carried to the boarding area, and then loaded on
    the plane after the last luggage is loaded.  
    Some airlines will even ship your cat in the cabin with a flight
    attendant watching out for it.
    
    It's definately worth asking about, and DO check with several airlines
    for prices - they aren't all the same.  For P.D.Q. shipping, I have
    been very happy with Delta.
    
    Molly
1050.3GLINKA::GREENEFri Jan 22 1988 15:3420
    Thank goodness we had such good luck with Frosty's trip from
    Amarillo, via Dallas, to Boston (there were NO direct flights,
    alas, and I waited nervously all day).  
    
    We used the "priority" service also.  It cost about twice what
    regular baggage would have cost, but little (well, medium) Frosty
    had good service!  He was hand carried last-on, first-off at each
    stop.  When he arrived in Boston, he was quite calm and curious,
    and was hand carried (before *any* of the regular luggage had yet
    appeared) through a special door for odd-size packages [What! My
    Frosty "odd-sized"???].  The baggage handler was holding Frosty's
    carrier as if it contained a million dollars worth of fragile
    crystal glass, or his own baby, perhaps!
    
    After hearing about the horror stories, I'll pay for PRIORITY 
    every time -- if I can't persuade someone to take the cat in
    the cabin!
    
    	Penelope
1050.4Question???SHARE::SSMITHTue Jan 26 1988 15:2820
    At what point would you NOT take a cat or small dog with you in
    the cabin (if allowed) and ship instead???? The reason I ask is
    as follows:
    
    At the beginning of this month, I was at logan to see someone off
    on a flight to Las Vagas. While waiting for them to board, I saw
    a woman there who was taking a small dog (unknown what kind) along
    with her. The dog was in a carrier. Although it was hard to tell,
    it probably wasn't much bigger than a large cat. Here's the riff.
    The poor little dog was almost litterally STUFFED into this carrier.
    He/she couldn't have had more than an inch and a half on any side
    to spare. He/she couldn't streach out, HAD to lay on it's side because
    there wasn't enough room for it to even lay on it's stomach, and
    was clawing to get out. There was an hours wait before boarding,
    the flight was an hour late taking off, and it was a five hour flight
    to St. Louis (the first stop). Who knows if she was continuing on
    from there. That's a minimum 7 hours in there. It really made me
    furious.
    
    Steve
1050.5When SIZE is too big!DISSRV::GERRYGo ahead, make me PURRR...Tue Jan 26 1988 15:5610
    I prefer to ship Fire because he's so big.  He goes 18 lbs or so,
    and it's too squishy in those "under the seat" carriers that they
    allow on board.  So, when I send him in cargo, he can travel in
    a larger carrier with a little more room, litter box, food, water,
    etc.  He's much happier this way!!!
    
    Was this person going to carry the dog on???   
    
    cin
    
1050.6SHARE::SSMITHWed Jan 27 1988 14:558
    RE: .5
    
    	Yes, she was taking the dog on board with her. It just seemed
    very curel to me. To my knowledge, you can't let the animal out
    while your on the plane, so he had to be in there a minimum of 7
    hours.
    
    Steve
1050.7exercise flying pets in lavatory!GLINKA::GREENEWed Jan 27 1988 15:3020
    re: .6 and letting the animal out of cage in flight
    
    Right - you're not supposed to let the animal out, and I suppose
    sneaking a dog out would be more difficult that holding a cat on
    your lap.
    
    Cute story:  one of my friends who flies alot to cat shows has
    also taught her cat to use the toilet, and so on one airplane
    trip, she took the cat back to the lavatory and placed him on
    the seat (on four paws, I assume, not seated, but who knows???).
    As she was standing in front of the door, which opens in, she
    didn't bother to lock it.  Man suddenly opens door, pushing
    human behind door, out of sight:  man sees cat using toilet!
    Man says "Um, um, excuse me, um" and beats a hasty retreat.
    
    I don't even care if it is true.  I love it!
    [did I read that here in FELINE, or discuss it over the phone?
    sometimes all these cat stories fade together.  or did I dream it???]
    
    	;-)
1050.8Inquiring minds want to know! (_I_ want to know)BUSY::MAXMIS11Serendipity 'R' usWed Jan 27 1988 15:5211
    RE:  .7
    
    Penelope,
    
    I just love the title you gave to this reply - "exercise flying
    pets in lavatory!".  Sort of sounds like a headline in the Inquiror.
    I can just see it now ...
    
                Ghost of Elvis seen exercising flying pets in lavatory!
    
    Marion
1050.9Snicker, gasp, choke, etc. :^) GLINKA::GREENEWed Jan 27 1988 16:1810
    re: .8
    
    Marion...
    
    	I CRACKED UP, perhaps a bit too loudly here in our "fake offices"
    upon reading your "headline".
    
    Um, just what DID you do before working for DEC???  'Fess up!
    
    	P  
1050.10:^)BUSY::MAXMIS11Serendipity 'R' usWed Jan 27 1988 17:0225
    Re:  .9                            
    
    Penelope,
    
    Actually, P, I was born here at Digital.  At least I _think_ I was,
    as I have no recall of anything before my very first USERID, PASSWORD.
    Is there life before Digital?  But that is a topic for the Philosophy
    conference.  
    
    Funny you should bring it up, though, 'cause I am about to find
    out if there is life _after_ Digital.  Tomorrow is my last day here.
    Since I am a contractor, I will probably be back eventually.  Just
    when that will be in unclear at this time.  My wedding is in six weeks
    and then the honeymoon (can't wait).  I may not be able to find a six
    week contract to fill in before the wedding, so I guess I might
    have some "bench time".  After the honeymoon I'll just have to see
    what comes my way.  You can be sure that I'll be popping right back
    in here at FELINE at my earliest opportunity.  
    
    My love to you all and all your furries.
    
    With love,
    
    Marion Daly
    (and Puppie, Mr. Mac Greggor, Toastie, Justa, and little Biscuit)
1050.11Hey, you can't leave!!CLUSTA::TAMIRTo a cat, all things belong to catsWed Jan 27 1988 17:0916
    First of all, you really know you were born here when you can't
    remember anything before your first PPN and PASSWORD!  PPNs pre-date
    USERIDs by about 50 or 60 years (or so it seems....).
    
    Marion, you can't leave!  What about little Biscie?  We're gonna
    miss all the kitten stories!!  WAHHHHH!!!  Gee, we'll sure miss
    you around the ole notesfile...sniff, sniff.  But hopefully, you'll
    be back "on-line" before too long.
    
    The boys and I wish you all the best in your marriage (although
    Honey can't understand why you'd want to live with a man) and we
    hope to see you back soon!
    
    Wishing you the best of everything,
    Mary, Honey and Chauncey
    
1050.12CIRCUS::KOLLINGKaren, Sweetie, Holly; in Calif.Wed Jan 27 1988 17:124
    Re: .10
    
    EEEkkkkkkkkkk, Sweetie and Holly and their Mom will miss you.
    
1050.13Do you really have to go??? :-(DISSRV::GERRYGo ahead, make me PURRR...Wed Jan 27 1988 17:2210
    Awwwww, Marion,
    
    we really are going to miss you!!!  But being an addicted feliner,
    I know you'll be back with us first chance you get.
    
    Good luck in your marriage...
    
    purrs
    cin
    
1050.14congrats... and we willmiss youAIMHI::MCCURDYWed Jan 27 1988 19:1218
    Pookie and I third that .... we are going to miss you... good
    luck..!!!! tee- hee. Pookie signs her name POOKIE THE PERSIAN-MCCURDY-
    MCGRATH.. .. so she asked me.. MUMMY... does that mean that MARION'S
    furries.. have a shorter last name now?????.. they are getting a
    real Daddy...!!!!!!...oh boy!!!!!!.
    Mummy it 's time I had a shorter name too...!!!!!!do you realize
    how hard it is to sign Pookie PERSIAN-MCCURDY-MCGRATH on the 
    AMEX CARD..IT is sooooooooooooooo hsrd to hold that big pen
    in my little paws.....(I THINK what might have started this was
    my S/O signed a birthday card we sent to a freind.. Pookies dad..
    this same friend sent me a tee -shirt that said pookie mcgrath
    loves dad!!!! tee-hee..anyway last night MY s/o asked wheres
    the "furry little monster""..I replied .. in bedroom on the bureau
    practicing her name..I got a chuckle.. and a grin.. as he headed
    that way.. and yup... only on the water looking in the frosted glass
    grooming her self and purring and chattering..anyway...
    regards
    Kate