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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

949.0. "Swallowed glass????" by BAGELS::ALLEN () Tue Dec 08 1987 14:25

    
    Well, this may be the first CATastrophe of the Christmas season,
    but I hope not... I feel terribly responsible.
    
    My cat Claude is a wire chewer.  She only chews inactive or unplugged
    wires, I assume because once she takes a live wire into her mouth
    she can sense the current and spits it out. 
    
    The catastrophe is that when I returned home last night after work,
    and went to plug in the lights we have in the window, they didn't
    work.  Upon inspecting the little bulbs (they are the miniature
    colored lights) I found one missing, with the socket chewed (teeth
    marks) and the filament and contact part of the bulb still inside.
    The thing that made me really alarmed is that I found several small
    pieces of glass around, on the floor, but not enough to make up
    the missing bulb.  Conclusion... she must have swallowed small pieces
    of glass!!!
    
    I couldn't sleep last night I was so concerned, waiting for her
    to cry out in pain if it created problems passing through her system.
    I don't even know if she actually swallowed any, just that I couldn't
    find all of the remains.  How long do I wait to see if it passes
    safely? and how can I tell if (God forbid) it should lodge somewhere
    and create internal bleeding?  I thought a vet couldn't really do
    anything until she showed signs of pain or internal bleeding so
    I haven't called her yet.  What should I do?  She acts normal, playful,
    alert, affectionate...  No signs of any problems at all!  I'm just
    worried, because eating glass (if that's what she did...) can be
    so hazardous.
    
    Any ideas?  encouragement?  slaps on the wrist for being so negligent?
    
    I just can't believe she would swallow the glass if it broke in
    her mouth! wouldn't she spit it out?
                                       
    Amy.
                                 
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949.1Watch the litter box!!JAWS::COTESymbolic stack dump follows...Tue Dec 08 1987 15:189
    Internal bleeding will show up in her stools and, I believe, possibly
    give you an indication as to where the bleeding may be originating
    from. Blood red stools will indicate a cut much further through
    the digestive tract, while darker, tarry stools should indicate
    a cut higher up in the tract...
    
    Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    
    Edd
949.2Call you VETTOPDOC::TRACHMANTue Dec 08 1987 15:464
    Call and take her to you VET today.  Don't wait for blood to show
    up in her stool - at least call and see what the Vet suggests.
    
    E.T.
949.3still waiting...BAGELS::ALLENTue Dec 08 1987 16:4319
    
    Well, .2, at your suggestion, I called my vet, told her everything and
    asked for advice.  She said since she's still eating and drinking
    and acting normally I shouldn't worry yet, but to keep an eye on
    the litter box and her appetite.
    
    Well, I can't say that I'm not going to worry, but I can't do anything
    until I see evidence of problems so I'll have to wait...
    
    Has anyone ever had a similar problem?  Or perhaps had a cat swallow
    something as internally destructible as glass?  I wish there was
    something I could feed her that would make it pass easier......
    IF she swallowed it.
    
    I really wish cats could talk!
    
    "Now, did you, or did you not eat that glass bulb????"
                                                   
                                                 
949.4stay coolDELNI::HYERTue Dec 08 1987 21:359
    
    You can bet she won't try to spit it out unless it tastes real
    bad.  We have one cat we have nicknamed "Hoover" as he will try
    to eat anything.  So far no problems but he's only 7 months old!!
    I would assume she may have ground up whatever she swallowed so
    the pieces may be smaller than you are assuming.  Your vet has the
    best advice. I'm sure they have seen stranger things pass thru....
    
    
949.5When in doubt ASK....TOPDOC::TRACHMANWed Dec 09 1987 12:438
    Gee, it must be tough waiting.  I, too, wish the little monkeys
    could talk, although when it comes to bath time, I think maybe
    meowing is just fine!  I guess the rule I am using, now that I
    have a house full, is when in doubt CALL.  It can't hurt to ask.
    
    I hope everything works out alright...
    
    E.T.
949.6PMROAD::SWEENEYWed Dec 09 1987 13:1127
    Our youngest cat, Sunny (female sealpoint siamese about 3 years
    old), swallowed a needle and thread about a year and a half ago.
    She started by chewing on the thread and by the time I noticed that
    it wasn't her food she was eating and got ahold of her, the needle
    was already in her mouth.  Then by the time I had her in a position
    where I could open her mouth, the needle was gone.  I called the
    vet right away and was told that there was nothing they could do
    for at least a day and to watch her closely to make sure she was
    still eating.  So we took her in the next day and they took xrays
    to see where the needle was.  It seemed to be moving along just fine
    so they waited till the next day to see if she would pass it.  After
    another set of xrays they saw that it hadn't moved so they operated.
    They even saved the needle and thread for me - YUK!  Anyway, the
    vet said that we were lucky she swallowed the needle eye first instead
    of point first - for obvious reasons.  There was no internal damage
    at all and she came through just fine - even had her first litter
    of kittens shortly after that with no problems at all.  
    
    So I know what you're going through, Amy.  The guilt I felt for
    leaving that needle and thread out lasted for weeks.  And worrying
    about whether Sunny was going to make it through and live a healthy
    life was terrible.  But just keep a close eye on her and call your
    vet with questions and things will be fine.
    
    Keep us all posted.
    
    Susan
949.7Film at 11!BAGELS::ALLENWed Dec 09 1987 16:1619
    
    NEWS UPDATE: CAT STILL FINE: HUMAN TEARING OUT HAIR.
    
    Claude is still bouncing around happy as a clam, eating like a lion,
    driving Sebastion nuts, and it's been over 24 hours.  The vet had
    said it should pass within 24 hours so I don't know if I should
    relax or what?  We haven't seen any glass (or blood) in the litter
    box, but then, we haven't been all THAT analytical about looking
    for the glass...
    
    Even if I did take her in for X-rays, I doubt it would show up,
    would it?
    
    Maybe if I plug her in, would she light up?
                                               
    Is it worse or better having a human baby?
                                              
    
    amy.
949.8CIRCUS::KOLLINGKaren, Sweetie, Holly; in Calif.Wed Dec 09 1987 17:416
    Once my first cat Pussycat developed an abscess under his chin.
     Probably he had swallowed a pin from when I was sewing (and I always
    try to be so careful).  So you might keep an eye out for something
    like this.  Or, is it possible that Claude batted the glass around,
    and it's under a chair (or in the next room, or under the
    refrigerator.....)
949.9Ms. TidyBowlTOPDOC::TRACHMANWed Dec 09 1987 19:412
    Boy, I am so trained to pick up after myself now that I amaze me!
    The kitties made me that way!
949.10Christmas bulbs & curious kittens -- a preventativeERLANG::STETSONWed Dec 16 1987 14:4922
    Hope kitty is all right as I can't help with what happened.  I have
    a good preventative for the future, however.  By all means invest
    in the big lights rather than the miniatures you are using.  They
    burn hotter and keep the kitties away from the tree.  (Also works
    very well for toddlers, fyi, as this tip came originally from my
    pediatrician.  Once burned, twice shy theory.)  I am soon to find
    out if the theory works with puppies.
    
    Cute story, puppy, Jack, eats everything.  One day he got the power
    cord on the tv.  We turned it on.  Blueberry, our Persian, walked
    past with her fluffy tale swishing majestically.  It touched the
    half chewed cord, caught a spark, and Blue's tail was on fire.
    Just for a second.  Air fanned it out.  She was mystified.  But
    I do like to tell the story of how the dog set fire to the cat!
    
    (Needless to say, puppy still chews and we are VERY cautious with
    power cords.  He has ruined the new vacuum, the tv, electric 
    blanket and I can hardly wait to find out how I am going to "protect"
    the tree!)
    
    Pat
    
949.11CIRCUS::KOLLINGKaren, Sweetie, Holly; in Calif.Wed Dec 16 1987 18:116
    Re: .10
    
    Have you tried tabasco on the power cords, and the various protective
    tubes and whatnots?  Before Jake does himself in, or you turn on
    something and it goes "poof".