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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

936.0. "Abby or Somali (pet) kittens wanted in Calif." by CIRCUS::KOLLING (Karen, Sweetie, Holly; in Calif.) Thu Dec 03 1987 16:15

    A friend and his wife would like to adopt a pair of Abby or Somali
    kittens, as pets, not to show or breed.  They have a list of local
    breeders, but they tell me none of them seem to answer their phones.
     If anyone can give them any useful info, please send mail to Charles
    at CIRCUS::HAYNES.
    
    Thanks
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936.1here's the correct addressCIRCUS::KOLLINGKaren, Sweetie, Holly; in Calif.Fri Dec 04 1987 18:033
    I should have said DECSRC::HAYNES.  we have a weird mailer setup,
    and I didn't realize CIRCUS doesn't forward to DECSRC for Charles'
    group.
936.2C'est moiOPHION::HAYNESCharles HaynesFri Dec 04 1987 21:5617
    Actually, the "correct" address is WSL::HAYNES. We already have one
    older female longhair ("Sarah") that we found as a stray. I was
    worried about the kittens terrorizing her, and her picking on the
    kittens, but I read the topic on Abbys and am somewhat reassured.
    
    How hard is it to get a pet from a breeder? I have absolutely no
    experience with breeders, we usually have taken friends' kittens
    or gone to the shelter. What should I expect? How much will I have
    to pay?
    
    I don't think I've been without a cat in the house anytime in the
    last 20 years...
    
    	-- Charles
    
    P.S. Hi Karen. I don't know if I can keep up with the volume of
    this file!
936.3Breeders conditions varyAQUA::GOLDMANMatt GoldmanMon Dec 07 1987 12:1138
Re: < Note 936.2 by OPHION::HAYNES "Charles Haynes" >

>    How hard is it to get a pet from a breeder? I have absolutely no
>    experience with breeders, we usually have taken friends' kittens
>    or gone to the shelter. What should I expect? How much will I have
>    to pay?
    
It varies greatly.  Personally, I'd require several references and if you were 
not a member of a local cat club, I'd probably have to get to know you better 
somehow.

You may be asked to sign a contract stating that you'll always care for the 
cat, never let it out, will spay or neuter, never declaw it, never ... etc. 
Although this doesn't stand up in any "court", it shows the intentions of the
buyer. 

I can't speak for Somalies, but Abys (one "b", 2 "s" in Abyssinian  ;^)  ) as 
pets would go for $100 - $200.  Maybe higher.  Again, it depends on the area
and the breeder.  Remember that "pet quality" means that the cat does not meet
the standard enough to show.  For an Aby this could mean lack of deep color,
necklaces, leg bars, wrong color eyes, wrong body type (bone structure), etc. 
Some of these may actually make the pet look better in your eyes, but not the
breeders!  Also, you will not get a copy of the pedigree. 

You might be able to find a cat in a local shelter that has some Aby backround.
The pattern may be dominate enough to satisfy your needs.  Price is a heck of 
alot cheaper this way and helps out the shelter!

For more money, you can get a "breeder/show" quality grade.  The cat more 
closely matches the standard and can probably be shown to champion.  Depending
on quality (hence price), you may not receive the pedigree until *after* proof
of spaying/neutering.

For even more money ... well, that's not what you're looking for.

Off hand, I don't have any contacts in CA (I'm in MA).

Hope this helps anyway!
936.4USHS01::MCALLISTERWish they all could be CA girlsMon Dec 07 1987 12:477
    ABy pet quality tend to go for closer to $250-300.  That's a coutntry
    wide average from the Abyssinian Cat Club of America. 
    
    Breeders run $500-750.  Show quality is close to $800-(whatever
    the market will give).
    
    
936.5Ok. So I was optimisticAQUA::GOLDMANMatt GoldmanTue Dec 08 1987 13:4811
Re: myself

>I can't speak for Somalies, but Abys (one "b", 2 "s" in Abyssinian  ;^)  ) as 
>pets would go for $100 - $200.  Maybe higher.  Again, it depends on the area
>and the breeder.  

Well, I was optimistic ... I'd say > $200 in this area (MA).  Could be >$300 if 
from a well-known breeder (read in-demand breeder and knows it).

Most have been the pressure of the day (and thinking about 5 years behind the 
times)!