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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

882.0. "'House Pet' Class question" by CIVIC::JOHNSTON (I _earned_ that touch of grey!) Mon Nov 09 1987 19:35

    I don't want to show my cats, but have been curious about the criteria
    for showing House Pets.
    
    I must begin by stating that I know nothing about Cat Showing. Having
    had a early background in Dog Showing, I do know that our dogs
    had to be 'without spot or blemish' and preferrably proven breeders
    -- hence ruling out non-reproducing house-pets.  Does the same rule
    apply to showing cats in general?  Is this rule waived in the case
    of house pet class?
    
    Obviously, house pets _can_ reproduce if not medically prevented
    from doing so; but as my 'children' over the past few years -- canine
    and feline alike -- have been some variation of orphan or displaced
    creature, mine do not.  [Once I managed to stabilise a population
    of Lop-Eared bunnies at 20, but that's another story]
                          
    On the other hand, some of them have been extremely beautiful and
    would, I think, show well if not barred from doing so because of
    their non-reproducing status.
    
    sign me 'Inquisitive'
    
      Annie
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882.1today's irreleant triviaVAXWRK::SKALTSISDebMon Nov 09 1987 19:458
    > [Once I managed to stabilise a population
    > of Lop-Eared bunnies at 20, but that's another story]
                          
    Bunnies can be spayed just like cats and dogs! I got into a
    conversation about this with my vet. He has done a couple.
    
    Deb
882.2well, of _Course_ I had them fixedCIVIC::JOHNSTONI _earned_ that touch of grey!Mon Nov 09 1987 20:0612
    re irrelevant trivia...
    
    yes, all of my Lops were spayed or neutered...the population stabilised
    at 20 because the bunnies had a head start.  A neighbor-child had
    been given a pregnant one [unintentionally, I assure you] for Easter
    and when she kittened, mother and babies showed up on my back porch
    in a Allied Moving & Storage box with a note ... Honestly, I don't
    know why I never scratched 'Johnston' off of the mailbox and just
    wrote 'Sucker' instead.  All bunnies found GOOD homes, not the Easter
    bunnies are s-o-o-o cute kind, and by last count 12 are still alive.
    
    Annie
882.3HHP explainedAQUA::GOLDMANMatt GoldmanMon Nov 09 1987 20:4531
Re < Note 882.0 by CIVIC::JOHNSTON "I _earned_ that touch of grey!" >:

>                        -< 'House Pet' Class question >-

>    I must begin by stating that I know nothing about Cat Showing. Having
>    had a early background in Dog Showing, I do know that our dogs
>    had to be 'without spot or blemish' and preferrably proven breeders
>    -- hence ruling out non-reproducing house-pets.  Does the same rule
>    apply to showing cats in general?  Is this rule waived in the case
>    of house pet class?

HHP (Household Pet) showing has been discussed elsewhere in this file, but 
since I'm being lazy, I'll summarize it below.

Unlike pedigree felines who are judged by a strict standard of breed, color, 
and structure, HHPs are shown strictly on their beauty and health.  Beauty is 
very subjective and a judge's opinion may vary from show to show.  The HHP 
should be very clean, well-groomed, and have a good disposition.   Purring for 
a judge or some playful antic may give the extra boost that is needed for a win!

Pedigree cats may be shown under two major classifications:  Championship and 
Altered Championship.  Since breeding *pedigree* cats is the purpose of the cat 
fancy and "forwards" the breed, the Championship Class is the most competitive. 
The Altered class provides a way for more awards to be granted.

>    On the other hand, some of them have been extremely beautiful and
>    would, I think, show well if not barred from doing so because of
>    their non-reproducing status.
    
Quite the opposite.  Most cat shows REQUIRE that an HHP over one year of age be 
altered.  There are just too many strays in the world.
882.4stray purebred cats?THE780::WILDEImagine all the people..Tue Dec 15 1987 19:0020
Add another question to the list:

If you find a beautiful, from all evidence "purebred", stray cat and 
want to show her, what class would she be in??

I'm asking because Hanna, my latest baby, is from all evidence a
"flame point" and quite beautiful...of course, I may be JUST a little
prejudiced on this, but you know how it is...

I would be interested in showing my lovely off if there is a catagory
for her...

also, what about de-clawed cats?

Lots of questions here..

				Thanks,

				  D
 
882.5some answersSCOTCH::FUSCIDEC has it (on backorder) NOW!Tue Dec 15 1987 20:5721
re: 882.4

>If you find a beautiful, from all evidence "purebred", stray cat and 
>want to show her, what class would she be in??

You may show this cat in the "household pet" class.  In some associations, 
there is a sub-class for "apparent purebred", and in some others there 
isn't, so ask the entry clerk to make sure.

The only exceptions to this are that, for some breeds, some associations 
will allow you to register a cat with unknown parentage for championship 
status, but these are few and far between. 

>also, what about de-clawed cats?

I know of *no* association that permits the showing of de-clawed cats in 
*any* class whatsoever.  All associations that I know of have taken the 
position that de-clawing is a barbarous practice, and to allow a de-clawed 
cat to be shown would be inconsistent with this position.

Ray
882.6USHS01::MCALLISTERWish they all could be CA girlsTue Dec 15 1987 21:057
    Generally, house pet division, ocassionally a purebred lookalike
    division (but that has mostly died out.
    
    Almost no fancy will allow declawed, but some (particularily TICA)
    will allow it to slip by in HHP's
    
    Dave