Conference misery::feline_v1

    Sound like too much catnip to me!
    
    My kittens sleep pretty soundly, but I've never not been able to
    wake them.  I think I'd be concerned, especially since you know
    this is not her "way." I think I'd call your vet and at least ask
    him about it.  You would call a doctor if Corkie were human, right?
    
    Good luck.
    let's hope it was just a "hangover"
    
    Stacie

    
    I have a kitty that likes to takes naps that is very tough to wake
    her from. I am not sure if she really does not hear me or is just
    ignoring me because she does not want to be bothered. Personally
    I thinks she is ignoring me but what can I say......
    
    Nancy

    Pat,
    
    Don't want to alarm you but that pattern you described is very similar
    to the pattern seen in human subject to "mini-strokes".  My grandfather
    used to have episodes like that.  Certain types of epileptic seizures
    also manifest themselves in this way.
    
    How old is Corkie?  You may want to call your vet and describe the
    incident and see if he thinks Corkie should visit.
    
    Hope it is nothing serious. I sleep like that from fall asleep to
    about 3:00 AM but this is normal for me.
    
    Frank
    

    Pat,
    
    Sorry about changing Corkie from a her to a him.  Missed the gender
    references and Corkie sounds male to me.
    
    Frank

    Chiun used to do that, right after his major surgery. He had steel
    plates embedded in his back to brace his spine where the ligaments
    had torn, and it was truly a woeful sight to see a bald Balinese
    with Frankenstein-ian stitching down his back. He would crawl under
    the covers and lie next to me to keep warm, and in the morning he'd
    be so still I was sure he had smothered...
    
    But he was always OK, just deeply asleep. I suppose it's possible that
    they might smother if wrapped too tightly or lain on, but since cats
    can sleep with their faces buried in their own fur (and *I* can't
    breathe through *that*), they must be able to get air under *very*
    adverse cirucumstances. 

    It is scary, isn't it? He hasn't done it often since he recovered,
    thank goodness.

    -b

    Let us know what the vet says, please. xxooo to Corkie.
    

    I'm touched that everyone replied so quickly.  I was almost tempted
    to pass this incident off, but with everyone expressing so much
    concern, I got even more worried about it and did what I should
    have done in the first place.  I spoke with Corkie's favorite vet
    Dr. Pierce and he pretty much ruled out eplipsy 'cause he said normally
    they don't get on their back and have a seizure, but he did jog
    my memory on something.  The day before I had used some stuff to
    unclog the drain in the bathtub.  Even though I did exactly what
    it said on the bottle (Corkie and I even sat on the patio for awhile
    afterwards) it seems that maybe the fumes bothered her.  As a matter
    of fact I woke up with a headache myself that morning.  This might
    not have been the problem, but Dr. Pierce said that since it only
    happened once, and she was just fine and normal afterwards not to
    worry too much unless it happens again.  He said to watch her close,
    and if she exhibited and further abnormal behavior to bring her
    right in.  So for now, we'll just sit tight and see what happens.
    Dr. Pierce is great, and he couldn't see putting her through any
    unnecessary tests, and I'm sure Corkie appreciates it too!  Thanks
    again.
    
    Pat (& Corkie too)

    This has happened to Smurf 2 or 3 times in the last 2-3 years. 
    I went over to him to wake him up and he just laid there, so I shook
    him and shook him and panicked and panicked and yelled and YELLED
    and he opened his eyes half way, as your cat did but his eyes were
    glazed over - real scary looking.  I continued to scream his name
    out and then he just woke up and looked  at me like "What the heck!".
    He seemed fine and I just attributed it to a very very deep sleep.
    When it happened again I mentioned it to a fellow cat owner and she
    said that her cats do that occasionally and that is was a very deep
    dream state that a cat will go into and occasionally they will twitch
    (this happened on another occasion with Smurf) and the second eyelid
    will sometimes comes down.   Smurf has laid on his back twitching
    and its almost like a running motion (chasing birds?) and when I would 
    go to wake him, he would be out of it.   Of course, I did check this 
    all out with the vet and he did agree that this does
    happen in cats as well as dogs and Smurf did check out healthy.
    I will admit though, I was hysterical the first time it happened
    and partially the second time.   I can imagine what I must look
    like when I'm jarred from a dream....
       

    An update to an update.  Corkie is just great!  No problems at all.
    I've been watching her real close and no other problems (but lately
    she's been sleeping on the couch, can you blame her?)  I've never
    paid much attention to this before, but since I've been watching
    her, I've noticed all sorts of things.  When she's sound asleep,
    her eyes are halfway open, or at least look that way, the second
    lid IS down.  When she's "just resting" her eyes are all the way
    closed.  I always assumed it would be the other way.  And when she's
    REALLY sleeping, she does "chase birds" in her sleep.  Her little
    feets go a mile a minute.  She's running after something! I hope
    she only has good dreams.  I wonder if she wakes up before she catches
    those birds?
    
    Thanks!
    Pat
    

    When Skyler Van Grayson was a little baby, he would go semi-comatose
    during nap-time.  One day, when he was quite ill, he had gone into
    such a state.  I just couldn't rouse him from his sleep.  Finally,
    I screamed and shook him, and he finally woke up, giving me the
    dirtiest look a cat could muster, let out one of his famous "NEHHHH"
    cries (Sky doesn't Meow, he Neh's!) and he went to find a quieter 
    place to sleep.  We call his naps "Kitty Koma"...
    
    I'm glad Corkie is OK...that can be a very frightening experience.
    Maybe she was dreaming of the Tom Selleck of cats...
    
    Mary

    Glad to hear Corkie checked out with the Vet and is doing fine as
    I know how scary these episodes can be (do they realize what they
    do to us?).  Re: the second lid; this can also be a sign of illness
    and shouldn't be seen coming down when the cat is awake.  With Smurf
    it shows up occasionally when deep sleeping but is never all the
    way down - you can check with the vet on particulars.
    
    cath

    re: .11
    
    I know the second lid is a sign of illness, but Trouble seems to
    only do this when she is sitting on me sleeping.  I thought she
    was just very content and relaxed.  Does this still mean illness?  
    She seems fine all the other times.  
    
    Bernice
    

    I thnk it's normal when they're asleep or going to sleep.  Sometimes
    Holly sleeps with the extra lip closed and the outer one partly
    open -- The Night of the Living Dead.
    

    I was really glad to hear that Corkie is okay.  I had a cat scare
    me once and I just had to ask - did anything happen that could
    emotionally upset her that day?
    
    We had a moving company packing up our house and couldn't find Tigger,
    a LARGE, three legged gray tabby.  After they left for the day,
    we found him - in a corner under my son's bed, stiff as a board,
    drooling and heart beating hard and very fast.  We rushed him to
    the Vet.  He was in a Coma - close to literally being scared to
    death.  The Vet brought him out of it and informed us that we
    absolutely could not ship him back to the States (we were on Guam)
    because he would die of fright before we reached Hawaii, even with
    tranquilizers.  Luckily we found a Chamorro (natives of Guam) family
    that treats him like royalty - velvet cushions, crystal dishes,
    and all the love he wants.  Of course we still miss him, but I've
    shipped cats (literally half way around the world) and never, ever
    saw a reactions like that - none of them care for any changes in
    their house, though - even moving furniture (or vacuuming behind
    the couch and moving it from the wall).
    
    Hopefully it was only the fumes, or a terrific dream that she didn't
    want interrupted.
    
    Ellen