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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

727.0. "safety of Hartz Blockade" by CIRCUS::KOLLING () Wed Aug 26 1987 22:36

    On the news last night, there was a piece about Hartz Blockade flea
    spray, saying that a number of animals had developed symptoms of
    "pesticide poisoning" from it -- symptoms up to and including death
    in some cases.  The apparently happened even though the product
    had been applied according to the directions on the can.  Several
    veterinarians were interviewed and said that they were recommending
    that people not use it until it became clearer what was going on.
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727.1a few thoughtsINK::KALLISRaise Hallowe'en awareness.Thu Aug 27 1987 13:1913
    Also, Dr. Alan Xanakas, (M.D.) on WRKO indicated he'd tried to get
    in touch with Hartz for several days, but was told that no spokesperson
    was available; nor has anyone from Hartz returned his calls.
    
    Additionally, he indicated that he'd gotten reports of some folk
    using Blockade _in conjunction with other insectisides_.  He pointed
    out that this could be highly detriomental to a cat or other pet.
    
    Anyway, I'd personally be cautious about using this product on a
    cat I loved.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
727.2BLOCKADE & Death Related IncidentsHPSVAX::DERUSSOFri Aug 28 1987 17:2443
    
    Heartz has been touting Blockade in an advertising blitz that claims
    the product not only kills fleas and ticks, but stops them from
    returning.  TV ads show fleas fleeing from one side of a petri dish
    sprayed with Blockade.
    
    After viewing one of the TV commercials in June, Pam Whitby of Illinois
    bought a seven-ounce can of Blockade for her Siamese cat, Romeo.
    The day after Romeo was sprayed, Ms. Whitby's daughter discovered
    the cat on the floor convulsing and rushed it to a veterinarian.
    "He's lost control over his bladder and bowels, and the veterinarian
    says he'll never be the same again.
    
    Ms. Whitby wrote to Hartz about the incident.  Hartz replied (this
    is so TYPICAL!!!), "We would, in all sincerity, believe that the
    problems your pet experienced were coincidental with, but not caused
    by, the use of our product."  
    
    Kevin Shanley, a dermatoligist at the Univ. of Pennsylvania veterinary
    hospital says the cases appear to be more than coincidental.  He
    has received about 20 calls from people whose pets became sick after
    using Blockade.  YOU'LL LOVE THIS NEXT SENTENCE, EVERYONE . . .
    "Depending on the severity of the situation, the individuals whose
    animals were affected, usually opted to put them to sleep," he says.
    
    Veterinarians across the country are finding these incidents are
    not isolated, and that patterns of symptoms are emerging and that
    the correlation between the deaths and Blockade is too strong to
    be coincidental.
    
    I would appreciate anyone who reads this to pass this information
    to anyone with a need to know.  This is a quite serious situation.
    
    Thank you.
    
    Diane deRusso
                                "ABYluv"
    
    TE KEE RUDDY ABYSSINIANS 
    (continuing the tradition to approved homes only)
    
    
    
727.3Time to Check the LAbel25192::MECLERFRANKFri Aug 28 1987 18:039
    I haven't read the label on the Hartz Blockade yet but will do so
    this weekend.  My bet is the active ingredient(s) is(are)
    cholinesterase inhibitors.  The symptoms are definitely those of
    central nervous system toxicity. After I've checked the label I'll
    post another reply.  Cats do seem to absorb some things through
    their skin very easily and they get an additional oral exposure
    when grooming.
    
    Frank 
727.4if you love your kitty, take care25175::KALLISNyarlathotep. Just say 'Not now.'Fri Aug 28 1987 18:497
    As I understand it, part of the Blockade mechanism is that the
    chemicals are supposed to permeate the cat (thus, if a flea bites
    one, it either is poisoned or it doesn't like the taste and leaves).
    Something like this was tried in the early 1960s, if my memory's
    not quite out of joint, and _it_ was later withdrawn.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
727.5SAHQ::CARNELLFri Aug 28 1987 20:027
    
    In case anyone is interested 60 Minutes did a segment on Hartz several
    years ago.  I will not put anything in here I shouldn't but I do
    not use Hartz products now.
    
    
    
727.6Never touch the stuffNEWPRT::BARTHKarl - the Pigasus riderThu Sep 03 1987 23:3318
    Ummm...
    
    We also do not use Hartz products at all. I saw the 60 minutes piece
    mentioned in .5, but that isn't the reason.
    
    This doesn't really have anything to do with .0, except the Hartz
    connection, so you can NEXT/UNSEEN away if you don't care...
    
    I used to be married to a veterinarian. She was an excellent vet.
    According to her, Hartz products (all of them) are a waste of money.
    Their quality is so comparatively low, and their prices so high
    that you are much, much better off buying equivalent items from
    almost anyone else. Especially anti-flea products. (Flea collars
    come to mind most quickly.) 
    
    It's a free country...
    
    K.
727.7NEWVAX::BOBBI brake for Wombats!Mon Sep 14 1987 19:3619
    There was just an article in the Washington Post this past week
    about Hartz Blockade. It seems a woman in the area used it on her
    3 dogs and was woken up in the middle of the night because the dogs
    were howling, vomiting and having diarrhea. She called the vet,
    washed them down, fed them watered down liquid (don't remember if
    it was water or milk or what).
    
    All three dogs survived, but the vet (happens to be the same one
    I go to) says that she has seen several cases where it looks like
    the Blockade is the cause of illness.
    
    I use that Hartz reflective flea collars, not because they do anything
    to keep the fleas away (infact, when you lift the collor that's where
    all the *&^%^&^ fleas seem to be nesting!) , but because of the
    reflective strip. I haven't found any other Hartz anti-flea product
    that even slowed the fleas down....  too bad Blockade appears to
    be going to the other extreme!
    
    janet b.
727.8Stilling Searching25192::MECLERFRANKMon Sep 14 1987 20:4017
    Took a little longer than I expected but I finally found some Hartz
    Blockade in the store.  To be quite honest I am not familiar with
    one of the components but will continue ot track it down.  My money
    is still on a neurotoxin.  The other component is a close relative
    of DEET the active ingredient in 6-12, Off, Old Woodsman, and Cutter's
    all human insect repellants.  When I use the more concentrated
    products, I get instant skin reddening (irritation).  This increased
    blood flow to the skin enhances skin absorption of chemicals.  Will
    continue my search for information on the other major component.
    
    BTW, Hartz is marketing a dog and a cat formulation.  The active
    ingredients and their concentrations are identical.  If there is
    any difference in the formulations it has to be in the 99% labelled
    inert ingredients.  Good marketing ploy for households with both
    dogs and cats.
    
    Frank
727.9EPA deals self inTOXMAN::MECLERFRANKMon Sep 28 1987 11:5822
    Hi Folks,
    
    Still haven't looked into the toxicity of Hartz Blockade in detail.
    Apparently the EPA thinks Hartz has not looked into it very well
    either.  EPA has ordered HARTZ to conduct additional toxicity testing
    on the two products.  There have been 201 reported incidences of
    illness and 26 reported deaths following use of Blockade.  The two
    ingredients had been previously tested alone and are among the safer
    pesticides/repellants available.  There may be something about the
    particular way they are combined in Blockade.
    
    In addition, EPA has ordered additional labeling warning consumers
    NOT to use the product on cats under one year of age or pregnant;
    on dogs younger than three months; and on sick, old or debilitated
    pets.  The new labeling will advise to apply sparingly and not to
    use more often than every 7 days and to observe pets after application.
    
    As an aside, neither EPA nor Hartz has enough data on other flea/tick
    products to determine if the illness/death incidence seen for Blockade
    is "unusual".  Makes you think.
    
    Frank
727.1020/20CIRCUS::KOLLINGKaren, Sweetie, Holly; in Calif.Tue Nov 17 1987 02:183
    According to TV Guide, 20/20 is doing a segment on Hartz Blockade
    next week (that's the 27th? I think).
    
727.11BLOCKADE video showingFRAGLE::REILLEYReilMon Dec 28 1987 16:0753
		I have reserved a conference room here in Northboro
	for a noon time showing of the recent 'ABC News 20/20' segment
	on Hartz Mountain's BLOCKADE Flea & Tick Spray for Tuesday,
	January 5, 1988.


	Where:	Munich Conference Room, NRO5
		Northboro, Mass.

	When:	Tuesday, January 5, 1988   12:15 pm.


	Directions:	From I-495 North or South, take I-290 West
		towards Worcester.  Take the first exit off I-290
		which is Solomon Pond Road.
			At the top of the exit ramp, turn Left
		and go about 1 mile to a rotary.
			Go three-quarters of the way around the rotary
		and take Whitney Street going west.  At the top of the hill
		continue past NRO1 on your left. 
			Just beyond NRO1 turn Left on to Forbes Road.
		NRO2, NRO3, NRO4 and NRO5 will be on your Right in that
		order.  Follow Forbes Road down to the end and turn Right.
			New construction is going on off to the left
		so watch for truck traffic, etc.

			Follow the driveway all along the front of the
		building until you come to the large parking lot at the
		West end of the building. Park & lock your car and then
		walk back to the second door along the front of the building
		(directly opposite the Handicapped & Security parking spaces)
		to enter. 
			The Security desk will be on your right as you
		enter. Turn left and go 50 feet to the main hallway.
		Turn right and the Munich CR is the 3rd CR on your right.


		The conference room is located right next to the 
	cafeteria.  The video segment runs for about 20 minutes.
		I have the conference room booked from 12:00 - 1:00
	so if anyone is late arriving we will still have time for
	a second showing.

		NOTE: I am not a regular reader of the FELINE conference
		      so please contact me directly if you have any questions
		      about the directions, etc.

	Tom Reilley
	President, DEC Kennel Club
	NRO5/P2
	DTN 234-5356