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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

283.0. "Bereft pets?" by VIRTUE::RAVAN () Mon Jul 14 1986 18:20

    This may seem like a morbid question, but the situation must come
    up now and again. What happens to household pets when the owner
    dies? If there is no surviving household member to look after them,
    are they taken to the pound? Or could any friend or neighbor volunteer
    to look after them - at least until a will (if any) is found?
    
    Furthermore, if I decided to plan for such an eventuality, what
    should I do? Is a will - while usually a good idea anyway - necessary
    for the disposition of a pet? Or would a letter indicating my wishes
    be authorization enough for a friend or relative to claim the pet?
    And how enforcable is such a thing? For example, if I had left
    instructions that a friend was to have my pets, but had not made
    a will, and my family showed up later and tried to claim the pets
    as part of the estate, would they be able to?
    
    Not that I'm planning to drive into any trees in the near future,
    but you never know.
    
    -b
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283.1possbile answersSTUBBI::REINKEMon Jul 14 1986 20:1412
    In most cases that I've seen in the paper, if someone dies and leaves
    pets which no one claims they do go to the pound.
    As far as your own pets you have a number of options. The simplest
    would be to arrange with someone to take them and inform the rest
    of your family/friends that ..... will take your pets. As long as
    you had informed everyone where your pets were to go I would think
    that would be sufficient. This could also be backed up by a letter.
    I would think the only reason to mention them in your will would
    be if 1. your pets were especially valuable or 2. you wished to
    leave them money. In that case you should see a lawyer about how
    to arrange everything.
                  
283.2If You Have DecidedINK::KALLISMon Jul 14 1986 20:216
    A middle ground would be to leave a note (notarized if there's any
    doubt) with the friend you want to take care of the animal after
    you're gone.  That should be sufficient.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
283.3depressing topicVAXWRK::DUDLEYMon Jul 14 1986 21:258
    What about a situation where a pet owner honestly
    feels that there isn't a loving home that would
    be available to their pet?  How do people feel
    about having their pets put to sleep upon their
    (the owner's) death?  If that is your wish, how
    do you go about arranging that?
    
    Donna
283.4SHOGUN::HEFFELTracey HeffelfingerTue Jul 15 1986 13:5224
          I'll try to remember to type in the article I have on this.
    As I remember, they reccommended NOT putting the provisions in your
    will, because they cannot be acted upon until the will is executed
    (is that the right term?).  
    
    	  As for having animals put to sleep upon your death, I always
    thought that was a rather conceited thing to do.  (My life is over; the
    cat surely has no reason to live without me...)  UNTIL I got Pippin.
    Pippin is the vet shredder, and no one but me can come anywhere near
    controlling him at the vets (even my control is tenuous). I don't care
    for unnecessary anesthesia, but I gave consent to have him put under at
    his last checkup because that was the only way the vet could get
    anywhere near his ears.  (We suspected a problem with the ears.)  It
    took 3 of us, over 10 mins. to get the (intermuscular) anesthesia into
    him and there was still bloodshed.  This cat is an FUS cat so he needs
    vet care to stay in good condition.  If I'm the only one that can
    handle him for vet care, (He'll shred Gary with only slightly more
    hesitation than shredding the vet.) how can he be taken care of when
    I'm gone?   Fortunately, since I'm 25, the question is probably
    moot, but....  It's a tough decision.  I still haven't decided what
    to do.                                                             
    
    tlh
    
283.5CECILE::SCHNEIDERAudreyTue Jul 15 1986 16:0722
    Good timing on this question!!!
    
    We are doing wills right now.  According to Tom (our lawyer ...
    in NH) Tracey is correct it should NOT be put in the will because
    of the delay until probate.
    
    He is making reference in both of our wills to each of our "letter of 
    intent".  A letter of intent is not a legally binding document
    but, as he said, "hopefully you've chosen an executor/trix who you
    trust to follow your wishes".
    
    Tracey,
    
    Regarding your 'vet shredder'.  I have a friend with a difficult
    pet who has left it in her letter of intent that it is at my
    discretion.  We've both seen difficult animals adapt under other
    home environments.  Your might want to leave it up to Gary if he
    survives you, or a friend you trust who has good animal sense.
    
    Regards,

        		Audrey
283.6What to doPUFFIN::BLODGETTWed Jul 16 1986 11:1611
                  -< What to do >-
    
    I don't know if any of you saw the program on "Cats and Dogs" on
    WGBH that dealt with this, but if you've got scads of money you
    can request that you cat goes to Southern California to spend the
    remainder of his/her life in luxury.  I don't recall the name of
    the place, but it was expensive.  Would love to do that with Brewster
    and July because I would hate the thought of their lives having
    to be shortened just because I passed away.  If you can find 
    a friend who would love them as much as we do, that seems to be
    the best bet.
283.7WE'VE MADE PROVISION FOR OUR "GROUP"!!SOFCON::MCDONOUGHThu Jul 17 1986 19:2564
    Re. .6
     Hi Donna, we haven't met but I'll be working with you in the future..
    Laurine Condon told me to contact you..but later for all that.....
    
     My wife and I have (currently) six(6) dogs and two(2) cats. The
    possibility of both of us being killed in an airplane crash, automobile
    accident, terrorist attack or whatever else could happen has been
    a real concern for us...."What's gonna happen to the 'kids'?????"
    
      We have been donating as much money as we can to a home for animals
    in the Katskills in New York. The name of the home is "Animals Farm
    Home" and is run by a man named Justin McCarthy. Justin was a SIX
    FIGURE SALARIED Executive on wall street who realized after years
    in that environment that the "Animals" that were the ones he DIDN'T
    want to associate with were the ones who were running around in
    three piece suits and making mega-bucks..
      Sooo....He sold everything, quit the "rat-race" (where only the
    "rats" win!) and purchased a 160 acre farm in upstate New York.
    Justin accepts any animal that has no place else to go...he has
    a chicken that obeys his commands, a six hundred pound pig that
    does likewise, over a dozen attack trained dogs that were considered
    "untrainable--condemned"..that now play with each other, with kittens
    and with puppies and are happy and friendly. He has been on "60
    minutes", the evening news, has been mentioned in "for Kids sake"
    on Saturday morning and has had articles written about his "farm"
    in Newsweek, many large newspapers ans various local ones.
      The reporters all say the same thing...this man's love and caring
    for animals is immediately evident. He has an ability to train or
    re-train an animal that is reported to be almost mystical...he can
    train a totally un-trained dog to do basic obedience routines in
    a fifteen minute timeframe. 
      He was in severe financial difficulty before he got the media
    coverage..and with the Newsweek and 60 Minutes exposure, the donations
    started to come in...in a two week period he got over $100,000.00,
    which he used to pay feed bills and pay off his Mortgage on the
    farm.....But he also got around 100 more dogs!!
      When i last heard from him, he had over 300 dogs, about the equal
    number of cats, 2 dozen horses and cows and various other small
    animals and birds. His only LAW is very basic....If you give or
    leave your animal at the Home, the animal has the right to live
    there in peace and happiness until it dies...with all the love and
    care that is possible!!
      Although we have not been to see the farm physically, we did some
    very thorough research through the various media and through the
    Better Business Bureau, the Chamber of Commerce and the town of
    Ellenville N.Y. (which is the town that the farm's in.) and all
    were very positive...and this was after some of the residents of
    Ellenville tried unsucessfully to have the farm banned---not really
    nice people since the findings of the court and the close neighbors
    was that the farm bothered NO ONE! But you'll find people like that
    almost everywhere. 
    
      So after checking all this out, we decided to ask Justin (and the
    Foundation which has been formed to continue after his death) if
    there would be a way to make sure our "group" would be taken care
    of in case of a disaster. Without hesitation the answer was an emphatic
    "YES, You can be assured that they can come here to live" This has
    since been confirmed by letter. To make sure that there would be
    no problems, My wife and I have left $100,000.00 or half of our
    estate to the "home"...(whichever is the larger sum). This way,
    I think the idea of 'charity' is dismissed and the home will get
    more badly needed funds...I just hope it never has to be acted upon..
    but it sure makes us feel more at ease...
    JMCD