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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

280.0. "cat catching - ideas??" by SSVAX::DALEY () Thu Jul 10 1986 03:08

    I need some good ideas on how to catch a cat. I have been feeding
    a "stray" twice a day for the past year (+). He waits for me to
    come out to the garage every morning with his food, and he is waiting
    for me when I get home from work. He has trained me well. Lately
    he has taken to staying around most of the day. 
    Of course the neighborhood folks regard him as mine, and I guess I 
    do too. The problem is that I will be moving from my home to a 
    new one across town and want to take this cat with me (plus he
    has a sore leg which I would like to get treated). 
    
    I have tried a "Humane Trap" a couple times in the past two months
    but he refuses to go into it. Once last year I was trying to 
    get another feral cat and he wandered into it. I let him go 
    as I was not sure he was a stray at that time. He must
    remember that experience.  
    
    He still won't let me touch him but I believe he can be 
    domesticated if caught and worked with over time ( I have one 
    cat currently who behaved exactly like him and is a sweetheart now). 
    I have only a few more weeks to get him.  I need some good
    suggestions. I really do care about him and don't 
    want to leave him behind.  Thanks.   Pat
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280.1...here kitty, kitty...GALACH::CONLONbusted by the Reality Police...Thu Jul 10 1986 10:0244
         Just a couple of ideas (I've never tried to catch a stray
       cat, but I think these would work on my kitties if they were
       lost and someone tried to touch them):
    
              Try sitting down somewhere at feeding time (to give
            the impression that you're not about to run after him.)
            Put something on your hand that has a scent (like a bit
            of hamburger.)  When he comes by to get dinner, just
            reach toward him and let him sniff your hand (but don't
            grab.)  Try to rub the top of his head or under his chin
            (all with relaxed motions.)  This may take a few days --
            to get him to trust.
    
              At feeding time, he's most vulnerable -- spend some 
            time making friends, then feed him.  When the time comes
            to pick him up, he may struggle and bite (you might want
            to have a kitty carrier cage handy to put him into.)
            He already knows you (but he may not be very familiar
            with your scent.)  Once you get him into the cage, talk
            to him softly and let him sniff your hand (minus hamburger
            smell) so he'll know you.  I would give him the shots
            before you handle him too much more (in case he tries to
            bite.)
    
         My older cat Woofie is the gentlest soul in the world,
       except when it comes to be handled by strangers.  Ever since
       he had FUS, he's afraid to be "controlled" (picked up and held
       by people he doesn't know) -- he won't even allow himself to
       be groomed unless I stand there and look directly into his
       eyes and speak to him.  We get our kitties bathed by groomers
       every 6 months (they have massive amounts of fur) -- Woofie
       scares the wits out of all the groomers.  My son and I fall
       over laughing when we hear this, because he is such a gentle
       cat -- he won't even "PRETEND" to bite us when we play with
       him.  But his FUS (4 years ago) was so painful -- he blames
       all VETS and groomers (and he'll never forget!!)
    
         Your kitty may be a gentle soul, too, that has reasons to be
       nervous about people outside.  Good luck -- I hope you can take
       him with you to your new home!!
    
                                                     Suzanne...
    
    
280.2Having years of experience...CROW::TAMIRThu Jul 10 1986 19:1231
    For the past 3 or 4 years, I have been feeding stray cats at my
    house and have tried (and tried) to domesticate the little buggers.
    The problem with my bunch is that they were born in the wild to
    Mom cats that were also born in the wild and they have never had
    any human contact.  Over the years I have never been able to get
    any of them to allow me to touch them.  But here are some things
    I've tried...
    
    Since he has you well trained to feed him twice a day, try moving
    his food closer and closer to the door and finally place his dish
    inside the house and welcome him in.  Let him explore if he wants
    to but don't try shutting the door behind him for a few days.  I
    tried this with my last litter of wild kittens and they were more
    than happy to eat inside (and explore, much to my cat's dismay!)
    but as soon as they heard the door close they went bonkers and kept
    throwing themselves at the slider trying to get out.  Since your
    little one may have been a domestic cat once upon a time, he make
    take to being inside easier than my tigers.  If he's a wild cat,
    I really don't think you'll ever domesticate him.  But I wish you
    all the luck in the world!!  He deserves a good home.
    
    One of the Mom cats presented me with her three little babies over
    the weekend (more hungry mouths to feed!!) and I'm now trying to
    win them over so they can find homes and be warm and loved.  In
    the meantime, they just want their food and water and don't seem
    to care about being "tamed".  It's very frustrating!
    
    Good luck!
    
    Mary
    
280.3I've been there!VAXWRK::DUDLEYThu Jul 10 1986 20:5255
    Mary,  I was in your exact situation last fall.  I had been living
    in Natick, Ma for about 10 months.  During that time I had been
    feeding 2 stray neighborhood cats, (Brutus and Crybaby).  Crybaby
    was quite attached to Brutus and according to our next door nei-
    ghbors, they had a litter together the previous summer.  Well,
    during the summer Crybaby brought her ~5 week old kittens to my
    garage.  I didn't even know she was pregnant!  There were 2 kitties
    one a duplicate of mom, the other a duplicate of dad.  Brutus
    always let me pet him but Crybaby would not let me near her.  On
    one or two occasions I successfully attempted to pet her near the
    tail end and she was so hungry she didn't bother to run away.  
    
    Well, to get to the point here, during the summer she had shown
    some interest in the inside of the house.  We had a sliding glass
    door to the backyard and I used to feed her just outside the door
    and on many occasions I would find her sitting outside the screen
    door looking in, sniffing, you how they do that.  I would put
    my cats away and open the screen door so she could come in, which
    she did on a few occasions, even wandered upstairs a couple of
    times.
    
    When we decided to move I decided I couldn't leave her behind.
    I figured her hopes for adoption were slim as she would probably
    be labelled 'unadoptable' by a shelter.  So, one day when she came
    in the house I just shut the door behind her.  When she tried to
    get out she flung herself against the glass, she was very upset.
    There's probably no way around this.
    
    So perhaps feeding him near a door and slowly moving the food inside
    might get him in.  Or just open the door up and see if he bites.
    
    Another thing to try is to entice him into a game that will draw
    him into the house.  The way I got Crybaby's kitten into the
    house was to take a long thing rope and 'snake' at all around the
    ground.  I slowly 'snaked' my way into the house, with kittie
    following, unawares, behind.  Most cats love some sort of snaking
    game.
    
    Well, when you've managed to get kittie into the house, then the
    truly hard part comes in.  Since Crybaby would not let anyone near
    her, it was quite a feat to get her into the cat box for her first
    trip to the vet.   It took a double dose of tranquilizer and two
    people to get her into the box.
    
    With a truly wild cat, plan on spending dozens and dozens and dozens
    of slow, painstaking hours domesticating.   I'd be happy to give
    you some first hand advice on this.  You don't have much time to
    work on getting the cat in so I advise you to begin now.  Good Luck!
    Please let us know what happens.
    
    Donna , tamer of the tigers
    
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280.4oopsVAXWRK::DUDLEYThu Jul 10 1986 21:003
    I meant to address my reply to Pat, not Mary.  Sorry about that
    Pat.
    
280.5VIRTUE::AITELHelllllllp Mr. Wizard!Mon Jul 14 1986 17:118
    Pat:  One warning - make sure that your cat and the stray you're
    trying to tame don't come into contact until the stray has been
    seen by a vet.  Even though your kitty may have had all shots, 
    including FeLV, the stray can still bring in worms, fleas and
    ticks.  Also, see my note on the "stray" we almost took in....
    
    --Louise