Conference back40::soapbox

    jimmy buffet
    
    cuz he's the best, some really neat lines in  his tunes.

    Mostly CW, some oldies, no MUZAC

    
    
    
    
    Into Hootie and the Blowfish right now.  

 Southern Gospel, some jazz, some blues, various classical, some rock..I happen
 to love music by Cowboy Junkies..some folk..





Jim

    Anything that doesn't contain the word Jazz.  Is that not music.
    
    Mike.

Just about anything except rap & c&w.

Especially vigorous classical (Mahler) and 16th century polyphony (Palestrina).

/john

    just got thru listening to Otis Reading's "Sittin' on the Dock of the
    Bay"
    
    boy did THAT bring back memories of 1968

	Most anything with the exception of C&W, most classical/opera or the
Rolling Stones.

 Brings back memories for me too, Ron..ooh boy..



 He (Otis) was to appear in  SF not long after the time of the plane crash,
 and I was eagerly looking forward to seeing him..



Jim

Wot I listen to:

Hawkwind, Motorhead, Black Sabbath, ZZ Top, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin,
Sex Pistols, The Damned, Cocteau Twins, Iron Maiden, The Macc Lads,
Roger Waters, All About Eve, Toyah Willcox, Tori Amos, King Crimson,
Lush, The Police, Queen, The Stranglers, Stereolab...    coz they're groovy

...and I can't stand:

Take bloody That, NKOTB, Stockhausen, SAW, Bon Jovi, any of that bloody
awful Rap cacophony, most of the stuff in the charts these days, Johnny
Dysentry and the Heavily Soiled Undergarments (my old band), and loads
of other stuff I don't even want to think about...    'coz they're crap.

Chris.

Herb Alpert and the Tiajuana Brass

    Alternative, classical, folk/ethnic, new age
    

    
    
       I listen to some contemporary jazz, new age,...some r&b. But I still
       find myself "caught in the mid 60'thru mid 70's". John Coltrane,..
       Miles Davis,...Freddie Hubbard,....Chick Corea,....Herbie Hancock,
       MyCoy Tyner,...Larry Coryell,.....Sarah Vaughn,....Wayne Shorter.
    
       It seems that music was more creative and had more feeling back
       then,....imo.
    
    
    
      Ed
    

    Black gospel, EC, B.B. King, Buddy Guy, Albert Collins, Aretha, EC,
    Bonnie Raitt, Al Jarreau, Steve Winwood, EC, Stevie Wonder, The
    Commitments, little bit of Reba and Vince Gill.
    
    

 What? No Albert King?

    A little bit of everything, minus rap and CW.

    
    I'm a big Clapton fan.
    Been following him since the early 60's and aside from
    the comatose 70's, he continues to be an amazing guitar god.
    
    Discovered Country last year, having overdosed on classic rock and
    I enjoy it a lot. 
    
    							Hank

    Country, and Rock&Roll.
    
    I don't mind queueing up Sabbath and Rush behind Alabama and Trisha.
    (ohh-err ,BTW.  She does the Chevy commercials here.  Yum-Yum).
    I don't dance though and I don't ride that mechanical bull.  As a 
    matter of fact, I tend to stay out of them beer joints nowadays.
    I think the last concert I went to was U-2 at the dome, or was
    it Alabama's salute to Richard Petty?  

	Which version of Gary Moore?


		Thin Lizzy?
		Heavy Metal?
		Blues?

Bach, Beethoven, Ives, Davis (Miles - no relation), and Hendrix.

And just about everything in between.

    
    Monteverdi
    Wagner
    Brahms
    Schumann
    Faure
    Ravel
    Dvorak
    Smetana
    Holst
    Elgar
    Parry
    Gabrieli
    Quicksilver
    Tull
    Zep
    Gin Blossoms
    MCC
    
    

Blues.

    Pop:
    
    Gentle Giant, UK, Squeeze, King Crimson, Bruce Cockburn, Peter Gabriel,
    (old) Genesis, Yes, Pretenders, Farrenheit, Police, Talking Heads,
    Steely Dan, Green Day, Sex Pistols, Clash, Generation X, Gang of Four,
    Porno for Pyros, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin (the first true "world
    music"-influenced pop group), Todd Rundgren (with and without Utopia),
    Nenah Cherry, Bjork, Ice T, Ice Cube, Parliament, James Brown, Otis
    Redding, Tubes, Simple Minds, Sugar Cubes, Van Halen, Public Image
    Limited, Seal, Frank Zappa, East of Eden, Alice Cooper, Pink Floyd,
    Journey, Tribe, Queen, XTC, Be Bop Deluxe, Enya, Robert Palmer,
    Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Ramones, Black Sabbath, Bears, David Bowie,
    Kings X, Kate Bush, Echo and the Bunnymen, Fleetwood Mac, Supertramp,
    T Rex, Stevie Wonder, Traffic, Nine Inch Nails, Men At Work, Reflex,
    Television, Lou Reed, Smiths, Blondie, Rings, Altantics, 10 CC, Bad
    Company, AC/DC, Devinyls, Tears for Fears...
    
    Jazz:
    
    Charlie Parker, Ornette Coleman, John Coltrane, Passport, Jean
    Luc Ponty, Al Dimeola, Return to Forever, Weather Report, Flim
    and the Bee Bees, Miles Davis, Herbie Hancock, Dizzy Gillespie,
    Benny Goodman, Woody Herman, Winton Marsalis, Mahavishnu,
    Tony Zano, Oscar Peterson, Count Basie, Duke Ellington, Ella
    Fitzgerald, Tony Bennet, Glen Miller...
    
    Classical:
    
    The Germans (Bach, Wagner, Beethoven, Haydn, Handel), the Austrians
    (Mozart, Strauss, Liszt), and some Italians (Verdi, Vivaldi, Puccini,
    Scalatti...) Throw in a sprinkling of Spaniards (Bizet, Ravel)
    add Russians to taste. Some modern composers as well: Copeland,
    Stravisnky, Hindemith, Britton. Not much for the Charles Ives
    school though. Love opera, favorites are Mozart, Verdi and Wagner.
    
    Also, World music, particularly from western africa, middle east
    and Tibet. Also love Irish folk and Scottish pipe music.
    
    No "country and western". Blech.
    
    -b

    	Who did the song in the 70's that had the refrain:
    
    	"Why can't we be friends?
    	 Why can't we be friends?
    	 Why can't we be friends?
    	 Why can't we be friends?"
    	(repeat, over and over)
    	

    
    Joe,
    
    That was `War'.
    

    
    
      re.24
    
      WAR
    
      Ed
    

    .15 Sorry, slight brain fade :-)  I was mentally going thru the CD
    rack; by all means Albert King, SRV and of course, Duane Allman.
    
    
    
    

 ;-)

    
    .24, Brian:
    
    Your collection looks *frighteningly* familiar!  Good stuff!
    
    jc
    

Listen to:

	Just about anything.  From George Winston, to Stevie Via.
	Being a Musician, I try to keep my ears opened to everything
	these days...  Hell, I even bought my first bonafied C.W.
	CD this week.. (Mary Chapin Carpenter.. It's not bad!)


Don't Listen to:

	The real hard-core cryin in yer beer Country Western
	 ""  ""   ""   ""  Thrash Metal
	
Dislikes:

	I **REALLY** don't like Rap (although my kids listen to it so it's
				    sort of forced on me)

	"    ""       ""    ""  a lot of Dance music (Thumpa-thumpa stuff
				(Madonna, Estafan,etc...)

    
    I'm also kinda fond of that Finnish conjunto stuff..

    
    
    	Heavy Metal, R&R, some C&W, dance, show tunes (ie: musicals)
    
    	can't stand heavy rap music, "techno" dance stuff (gives
    	me one heck of a headache), opera, and thrash/death metal.
    
    	Someone a few notes back was doin' pretty good till he
    	said he couldn't stand Bon Jovi.  =)
    
    
    	JJ
    

    I like all kinds of music gospel, rock, rapp, the blues, classical,
    opera, jazz, old time, contemporary, swing, hip hop.  If it's pleasing
    to my ear, or if it makes my toes wiggle.
    
    Music is one of the greatest forms of expression that I know of.  I
    can't imagine my world without it.  The biggest crime that I find in the 
    music world is how today's lyricist butcher a song with lyrics from
    hell.  For some reason Jodeci, 2 live crew, and Princess comes to mind 
    along with many others.
    
    
    

    
    sex, beauty, melliflous tunes.

    .34, on crime:
    
    I recall Van Morrison making a wreck out of "The Star Of the County
    Down", which is a lovely waltz.  It might have been the low point of
    the album which the Chieftains and he made.
    
    Dick

    Does anybody like the number one AOR(album oriented rock) band in the 
    universe...RUSH??? I do!
    AB
    

    
    .38:
    
    Nope...nobody else likes RUSH...you're the *only* one.  :*)
    

    Some glaring omissions from my previous pop list in .24:
    
    Thompson Twins, Primus, Devo, Elvis Costello, Gary Numan, Styx, Oingo
    Boingo, B52s, Was Not Was, Laurie Anderson, Frankie Goes to Hollywood,
    Spinal Tap, Missing Persons, Lene Lovich, Talk Talk, The The,
    Psychedelic Furs, Big Country, Yaz, Enigma...
    
    And no, no Rush... Yawn.
    
    -b

    
    Like...Anything (almost) that they play on Eagle 93.7 (70's)
    	Pink Floyd
    	Doors
    	Steve Miller
    	ZZ Top
    	Boston
    	Chicago
    	R.E.M.
    	Heart
    	Moody Blues
    	Gordon Lightfoot
    	Carly Simon
    	Barbara Streisand
    	Carpenters
    	Chicago
    	Jimmy Buffett
    	Bette Middler
    	Supertramp
    	REO Speedwagon
    	The Cars
    	Pousette Dart
    	Niel Young
    	Bob Seger
    	Rod Stewart
    	Queen
    	B.T.O.
    	Firehouse
    	KISS (Thier older stuff)
    	Peter Frampton
    	Air Supply
    	E.L.O.
    	Aerosmith
    	Bad Company
    	Jefferson Starship (& Airplane)
    	Cher
    	B.J. Thomas
    	Doobie Bros.
    	Charley Daniels
    	Black Sabbath 
    	Blue Oyster Cult
    	Fleetwood Mac
    	Foreigner
    	Linda Rondstat(sp?)
    
    Dislikes....most country, opera, and rap.
    

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| Blues.

	Ahhhhh the best version.....

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                        -< Sierra Leone Palmwine Music >-

Did you hear that story on him on NPR Friday night. Ya gotta love him.

    
    Yeah! Love that stuff. Great slogan too.

    Likes:Slayer,Napalm Death,Pat Matheney,Kiss,Led Zeppelin,Alan Holdsworth,
    Clash,early AC/DC,Bad Brains,early English Punk,early 80`s pop. 
    
    Dislikes:Pink Floyd,anything with the label "new world music",and rap
    when they sing about how great they are compared to other suckers,and
    they`ll shoot some mother er,etc etc. 
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

    I told this story today at DECarolers rehearsal.  It's not true, but
    it's close enough 8^)
    
    When I was in the Massachusetts Northeast District Chorus lo these many
    years ago, we sang "The Battle Hymn of the Republic."  It was a huge
    arrangement for full chorus and orchestra; there were some 300
    vocalists and 200 instrumentalists assembled, and it is *loud*. I have
    always prided myself on having a lot of vocal power, and I got it into
    my head that I would be pleased if on the last note I could sing so
    loudly that the audience could hear my voice above the others.  So in
    the performance I sang the last note as loudly as I could.
    
    Afterward I was joined by some of the other kids from my school.  Two
    of them said, "Boy, Steve, you really sang that last note loud!"
    
    I was thrilled.  "You could hear me, then?"
    
    "No," one of them said.  "Your face got so red we thought you were
    going to pass out!"

    .47 interesting


    my list is too long, but i'll bore 
    everyone with this - 

    largest collection: Oscar Peterson
    2nd largest: Allman Brothers

    kind of a weird combo that
    
    

    Allman Brothers are cool.
    
    "oooooh,ma sweet Melisa.." etc.
    

    
    who did the song "aaaayyy-mmmeee, what'choo going to dooo" ...?
    
    marshall ticker band? oak ridge boys?

    
    Pure Prairie League.

    Pure Prairie League

    
    lead singer laura ingalls??
    
    

    
    Vince Gill was in Pure Prairie League.

    Beat me to the draw!  :-)

    
    I woulda let you have it iffen you had taken me sailing with you 8^).

 Pure Prairie League? ;-)

    >lead singer laura ingalls??
    
    That woulda been Pure Little House on the Prairie League...
    
    -b

    I was listening to the Clash best of tapes last night.
    
    Eeeeh,they don`t write songs like "Stay Free" or "White Man in the
    Hammersmith Palais" anymore.
    
    "If Adolf Hitler,flew in today,
     they`d send a limosine anyway"
    

re.11
> Herb Alpert and the Tiajuana Brass

Jack.... is that because you like the music or the album cover?

    
    i heard that the whipped cream is an applique.

The music. Most of the album covers, except WCaOD, were crap.

I took a peek at my collection over the weekend... here are some of my 
favs :

	Canadian:	The Tragically Hip
			Blue Rodeo
			Crash Vegas

	Australian:	Midnight Oil
			Weddings, Parties Anything
			The Black Sorrows
			Paul Kelly and the Messengers
			INXS (old stuff)

	British:	Texas
			U2
			Genesis (old stuff)

	American:	The Eagles
			Don Henley solo stuff
			Bob Segar
			Mellencamp
			Springsteen
			Toad the Wet Sprocket
			Pearl Jam
			lots of old Motown stuff (my 1st ever "grownup"
			concert was Mom taking my older brother and I
			to see Gladys Knight and the Pips when I was
			9 years old)
			Jonathan Richman
			

    re: .64
    
    >	British:	Texas
    
    I believe the title of the song is "Texas", but I don't remember the
    name of the group.
    
    Bob
    

"Texas" is a Scottish (I think) group.  Their latest recording is called
"Ricks Road" and I believe they had two other albums - "Mothers Helper" and 
"Southside".  You might remember a song called "I Don't need a Lover".
Good band.

    I'm going to see "The Bare Naked Ladies" next wednesday night.
    
    Should be good.

<--------   Did you hear that the band is suing some art gallery?  Seems the 
gallery has put out an advertisement with 3 nudie gals (statues or a 
painting, I can't remember) and saying "Come see the Bare naked Ladies".  I 
guess the band didn't find it funny.

    You mean I can't go see the statues now?!?
    
    rats.

    I`m going to see the Offspring on Saturday. Good,healthy punk rock.
    Well played n`all.
    
    

    Your kids play that kind of garbage?

    Er,I don`t have any kids. If I did,I certainly wouldn`t take them to
    watch that kind of crap.
    
    ho!ho!
    

    oh,ha,ha. Mr Richardson.
    
    "Offspring" yes,I get the joke.
    
    Bit slow,me.
    

    
    what the heck is the name of that song by paula abdul whose title is
    "<something>ology"???
    
    
    

    
    Vibe-ology
    

    
    
    thank you!!!!
    
    
    it has been bothering me since it popped into my head at lunch.
    
    deb, the song is "vibe-ology"
    
    :>
    
    

    
    ...it's the study of the chemistry...between you and me...
    

    
    In my opinion, there's not much that's quite as satisfying as taking a
    brand new score and marking the heck out of it as I did last night.

    So!
    
    Congrats on scoring last nite, MZ_DEB!!!
    

    How did it measure up?
    
    I hope for your sake that you skipped a few bars.

    
    I've never been known to skip bars.

    You know your way around a staff?

    
    I could make even you sing.

Even with that clef palate?

[No treble at all.]

    
    I'm not sure I care for the tenor of this discussion.

    displeasure noted.

    Give it a rest.

    I coda predicted that.

    .91
    
    that would be a measured response.

    
    I'm ready to pitch this whole topic.

    Aria sure about that?

    That was pretty sharp.

    I would be afraid of coming up flat.

    boy, i dunno, glenn, you seem such a natural.
    
    or is that all accidental?

    This is simply trilling.  I'm sure that scoring on the Piano is only
    one of Mz. Deb's Fortes.  Though I am a Bassone to say it.
    
    |-{:-)
    

    I don't mean to string you along, but upon what do you bass your
    conclusions, and how do you propose to drum up support?

    > scoring on the Piano
    
    oh dear

    What the hell.

    
    Naah, it's only a spinet, and there are pictures on the top 8^).

    This trebles me.

I'm sure that scoring on the Piano is only
    one of Mz. Deb's Fortes. 


	Wow, what you don't learn in the box %^) %^)

                     Yeh, that's wot we hear yer wife sez
    
    |-{:-)
    

    
    105 replies!!!!
    
     I never thought it would get over forte...
    

    I didn't realise it mezzo much to you.

    Speakin' of music... I've been having a great time with an instrument
    called the "Chapman Stick". If any of you are familiar with Tony Levin,
    who plays with Peter Gabriel and King Crimson, you may have seen the
    Stick (now officially called the "Grid", but everyone I know, including
    Tony, still calls it a Stick)
    
    Anyway, the Stick is a ten stringed instrument. The lowest string is a
    C below the bass clef. From C, the strings move down in fourths (like a
    guitar) and up in fifths (like a Cello). The "bass" strings are at the
    top of the instrument (when you are wearing it).
    
    There is a strap which goes around your neck and under your right
    shoulder (if you're right handed). A metal plate at the bottom of
    the instrument is intended to clip over your belt, although I had
    a special leather harness made, after Tony Levin told me about his
    (and who made it for him).
    
    You play the stick with both hands by tapping on the fingerboard,
    instead of plucking. There are separate outputs for the high and
    low strings. The high strings I run through a Digitech 2001 guitar
    preamp, the lower strings are run through a bass preamp (either my
    Trace Elliot, or an ADA MB1 MIDI preamp).
    
    The sound is unreal. It's a boink sound. A low boink sound. Really
    cool. For an idea, check out the song "Shock The Monkey" by Peter
    Gabriel. The "bass" in that song is actually a Stick. Definitely
    gets people's attention when I play it on stage...
    
    -b

They should bar strings like this one.

        Aah, take it to the Things to Boink Today note willya!!!??????
    

    
    No, take these refrains to the blue note.
    
    								-mr. bill

    > -< .107> The sound is unreal. It's a boink sound. A low boink sound >-

    >    Aah, take it to the Things to Boink Today note willya!!!??????
    
    Well, to be perfectly honest, the sound is more a combination
    of "boink" and "thwack." But since no has started a things
    to thwack note, I figured boink was close enough.
    
    -b

    Doodling bedsprings?
    
    E-e-E-e-E-e-E-e-E-e-E-e

    I would be baffled if I heard this on a water bed.

>Who did the song in the 70's that had the refrain:    
>    	"Why can't we be friends?
>    	 Why can't we be friends?
>    	 Why can't we be friends?
>    	 Why can't we be friends?"
    	(repeat, over and over)

Why not?

It's called groove.

Here's another sample of  the lyrics from the same song:

	"I know you workin' for the CIA

	...they wouldn't have you in the "MAF-I-A".

	(why can't we be friends...etc.)

P.S. Considering all of life that is reflected in microcosm in this
conference, I think the question and its repetition has great
significance.

    The group was called "WAR".

    Let's face it, some of thelyrics from the '70's were as deep as
    picnic paper plate...

    
    
    <---  i actually tried to figure out what a thelyrics was til i
    realized his space bar didn't space...
    
    

    
    go home Raq... In fact, I'm doin' that shortly me-self...
    
    I could lie and say the space doesn'tworkbutiwont... 
    
    Happy New Year!
    
    Chip

    From the..town of bedrock...they're a place right out of history...
    Let's ride...with the family down the street...through the....
    
    Could somebody please finish the last line!?  Thank you.
    
    -Jack

    
    "courtesy of Fred's two feet"
    
    YVW, M-L.

    <--- So, who watches too much t.v. ? Hmmmmm?

    
    I don't still watch it; I just have a good memory 8^pppPpPppPPPPpPppp.
    

Did anyone else happen to stay up and listen to the live broadcast of Eddie 
Vedder (Pearl Jam) and others (ie Soundgarden) from Seattle last night?  It 
consisted of lots of Eddie banter (what the h*ll was he talking about?), his 
choice of record cuts and live music.  We got it from 10:30 - 1:30am - that 
was some pretty wacky stuff!  I think that Eddie is probably one strange 
dude.   One of the funnier bits consisted of him playing back some of the
messages left on his answering machine over the holidays.  There were NO 
commercials during the 3 hours and obviously no censorship either.  How did 
Eddie get so much power?

    Pearl Jam didn't tour last year.  Any media outlet would kill to carry
    them live.

    
    John Bridge's band _Sky Blues_ will be at the Sit'n'Bull tonight, going
    on about 9 or 9:30.  No, I have never heard them.  Yes, I will be there
    if anyone is interested in hooking up.          

    
    Well!  I stayed for one set (we old folks gotta get our sleep, don't
    you know) and they were quite good.  Not a really large crowd, but
    really large beers 8^).

Purchased two CD's the other night:  one is Bach,
the other is Blues Brothers, The Definitive Collection.
(Mood swings?  Who sez I got mood swings?)

Lots of fun listening to Duck Dunn, Colonel Cropper,
and the gang.  And, it includes that legendary intro,
"We'd especially like to welcome the members of the
Illinois law enforcement community who are joining us
in the Palace Hotel Ballroom tonight."

    Bach! I pronounce you Godess Who I Shall Eternally Worship! Bach!
    
    I _love_ Bach. Bach makes me shiver with anticipation. Bach!!!!
    
    The Blues Brothers? ehhhh, but Bach!!! Bach!!! Yes!!! Yes!!! Yes!!!
    
    -b

	which one?

    Johann Sebestian of course. Although Carl Philip Emanuel and Johann
    Chritian wrote some nice pieces as well. But Papa Bach, well, he
    was simply the greatest that ever lived.
    
    -b

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| Johann Sebestian of course. 

	Didn't he write the theme to Welcome Back Kotter?

>>    But Papa Bach, well, he
>>    was simply the greatest that ever lived.

	the greatest what?  Bach or composer?
	maybe the former, but the latter's arguable fer sher.

    
    then there is sebastian and catherine...
    
    

    >the greatest what?  Bach or composer?
    >maybe the former, but the latter's arguable fer sher.
    
    Composer too. And you're welcome to enter a counterargument
    if you'd like, but you're not about to change an opinion based
    on a lifetime of study of the man's music. So argue away
    if you think you have the mettle for it. I live for this
    $%!^.
    
    -b

    Re: .134
    
    >an opinion based on a lifetime of study of the man's music
    
    A study of one composer is not sufficient to determine who is the
    greatest composer.  "Greatest" is, after all, inherently relative, and
    you have insufficient grounds for comparison.
    
    Just thought you'd like to know....

    Fine, then by all means, take me on. I never said I only
    studied Bach, you jumped to that conclusion (no surprise
    really.) Of course, greatest can never be more than an
    opinion either, but I hope you some means of arguing your
    point other than grammatical semantics.
    
    -b

	I wouldn't try to change your opinion, Bri.  There's nothing
	to be gained from that.  The "greatest composer" thing would
	naturally be arguable though, wouldn't you think - what with
	so many of them to choose from and so many ways the word
	"greatest" could be interpreted when applied to the realm of
	music?

    Re: .136
    
    >I never said I only studied Bach
    
    I know.  So what?  You said your opinion was based on a lifelong study
    of Bach -- and that's all you supplied.  At that point, you had
    supplied insufficient grounds for your conclusion.  Which is not to say
    that you didn't _have_ grounds, merely that you hadn't supplied it.
    
    I expect you'll do better next time....

    What do you think Mozart would be like if he were alive today?

    I think he'd be living on the edge with some wild band.

	-b, sorry i asked.  ;-)

    OK, my bluff is called! :-)
    
    Here's _why_ I think Bach is the greatest.
    
    1. The volume of his work. Compares with anyone who would be
       among "the great."
    
    2. The breadth of his work; from choral music, to the establishment
       of the fugue on a variety of keyboard instruments, to concertos...
       if it was there, he wrote for it.
    
    3. A mixture of pure technical genius (fugue in A minor) with profound
       emotions (Orchestral Suite #3 "Aire")
    
    4. Took Buxtehuda's contribution as the father of organ music to
       a new height, and established himself as perhaps the greatest
       organist in musical history. Bach wrote some of the definitive
       organ pieces, considered by many (including myself) to be
       the master of all instruments.
    
    5. Siezed upon the genius of well tempering before most of his
       contemporaries and used it to great advantage. In this sense,
       I think Bach had a genius for mathematics as well, which is
       further supported by his use of counterpoint in fugues. In
       fact, Bach was pretty much the father of counterpoint.
    
    -b

    >What do you think Mozart would be like if he were alive today?
    
    Outrageous. Childish. Buffoonish. Brilliant. Difficult. Egotistical.
    Arrogant. And yes, I believe in reincarnation. :-)
    
    -b

Mozart was a great composer.
He spent his life composing.
Now that he is dead and gone,
He spends it decomposing.

| <<< Note 51.136 by MPGS::MARKEY "Investors in fine Belgian jewelry" >>>


| Fine, then by all means, take me on. 

	That's a loaded statement....

| Of course, greatest can never be more than an opinion either, but I hope you 
| some means of arguing your point other than grammatical semantics.

	Chelsea, was yer gramma around back then? 

	back to the organ thing, and yes i know that's redundant -
	the "master of all instruments"??  hmm.  interesting concept.  

| <<< Note 51.141 by MPGS::MARKEY "Investors in fine Belgian jewelry" >>>


| 1. The volume of his work. 

	Volume is all relative, isn't it bri?

| Compares with anyone who would be among "the great."

	Ok, Nolan Ryan. How do they compare? He was the greatest composer of
CHIN music! 

| 3. A mixture of pure technical genius 

	Soooo... we have him to thank for this techno crap!!?? 

| Bach wrote some of the definitive organ pieces, 

	I've played them pieces..... :-)

| I think Bach had a genius for mathematics as well, 

	HEY! If you can bring math into this, then Chelsea can bring grammer
into it!!!! 


Glen

    >back to the organ thing, and yes i know that's redundant -
    >the "master of all instruments"??  hmm.  interesting concept.  
    
    The awesome consuming power of an organ is undeniable. No
    other instrument (excluding the synthesizer, which is a bit
    of a cheat), can produce either the dynamic range or the
    variety of sounds of a well-crafted pipe organ.
    
    -b

    Re: .144
    
    >Chelsea, was yer gramma around back then? 
    
    Not even close.

	Then maybe that's why he doesn't want you to talk about her...

	I suppose one could argue that the human voice might surpass
	the pipe organ in number of sounds producable, but anyways,
	the organ is really something, to be sure.  I can't take a steady
	diet of Bach though.  Genius?  Of course - there's no doubt
	about it.  If being the greatest composer of all time has in its
	definition writing the most beautiful music, I'd have to count
	Bach out.  It's a personal taste thing, I guess.
  

    No single human voice could match the pipe organ in variety, although
    the set of all human voices would most definitely exceed the variety
    in the set of all pipe organs. But, we're back to math again.
    
    The beauty in a melody, as I see it, is sometimes not apparent.
    This is the case with much of Bach's work. My personal opinion,
    in the melodic beauty sweepstakes, would give the nod to
    Shubert (Ave Maria for starters).
    
    My near-worship of Bach should never be viewed as a denigration
    of other composers. Many (Mozart, Beethoven, Mahler and Wagner
    among them) hold positions nearly as dear to me.
    
    -b

    
>>    The beauty in a melody, as I see it, is sometimes not apparent.

	If it's really not apparent, how would you know about it?  ;>

	Never mind - I know what you mean.  However, that smacks a little
	of the I-hate-the-looks-of-this-painting-but-it's-done-well mentality,
	as I see it.  You know how it is - someone can be a great
	technical wizard on the guitar and still suck, etc.

	I like a good dollop of devastating beauty in my composers' works.
	8^)

    Mozart only lived 35 years, half a life. Imagine the music he would have
    composed had he lived 70 years.

    I bought a CD, is all.  I didn't expect a sort of Spanish
    Inquisition.
    

	See what we do for you Joanne??? It's all because we LOVE you! 

    WHAM! SWOOOSH! (step step step step step)
    
    NNnnnnnnnnnnnnnnobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

    I tend to be of the "beauty is in the execution" school. The
    most beautiful melody can be ruthlessly slaughtered... any
    school recital is proof. Technical wizadry is not essential
    for good execution either. I'm bored by the "shredding" that
    passes for guitar technique these days. The combination of
    brilliant writing and brilliant execution is all too rare,
    and most definitely carries over to many of the orchestras
    hacking their way through classical repetoires (I long ago
    established a bad reputation in the music conference for
    suggesting that the Pops were a bunch of wanks!) But Bach
    in the right hands, well... it's nothing short of orgasmic.
    
    -b

    I'm warning you Joanne. One more outburst from you and I'm
    getting the comfy chair!
    
    -b

| <<< Note 51.157 by MPGS::MARKEY "Investors in fine Belgian jewelry" >>>


| The most beautiful melody can be ruthlessly slaughtered... 

	Yeah, just look at any remake any heavy metal band did....

| But Bach in the right hands, well... it's nothing short of orgasmic.

	Did you look to see how this sounded????? :-)

    The comfy chair?!?

    And then it's the ....
    
    soft cushions!
    
    -b

>>    I tend to be of the "beauty is in the execution" school.

	I tend to be of the "beauty is in the melody" school.

>>  The most beautiful melody can be ruthlessly slaughtered...

	Ah, but it remains a beautiful melody.  It's not the
	composer's fault if it's slaughtered.

    Here's J.S. Bach at the back of the house.
    Here's J.S. Bach at the side of the house.
    Here's J.S. Bach coming 'round the back of the house,
    but you can still see a bit of the side.
                                           

    Giggle!!! (people are looking at me funny, stop that!) :-)
    
    -b

    (I also like John Cleese's turn as Beethoven.  Being
     taunted by his parrot...  "Stop zat!  I'm not deaf yet!!!)
    

    .153
    
    > Mozart only lived 35 years, half a life.
    
    schubert lived only 31 years, less than half a life.  on his death he
    left uncompleted a symphony, usually catalogued as no. 10, that was
    years ahead of beethoven.  imagine the music he would have composed had
    he lived 70 years.
    
    mendelssohn lived only 38 years.  imagine the music he would have
    composed had he lived 70 years.
    
    hans rott lived only 26 years and left behind in published form only a
    single symphony, of which mahler said the quality borders on sheer
    genius.  imagine the music he would have composed had he lived 70
    years.
    
    i don't deny that mozart was great - but he's so well known principally
    because he got the good press while others, like those i mention here,
    didn't.

    Mozart composed in his head and wrote his music out only once,
    perfectly.

    .167
    
    > Mozart composed in his head and wrote his music out only once,
    > perfectly.
    
    horsepuckey.  how do you explain the authenticated mozart manuscripts
    that exist with scratched-out and recomposed sections in them?

    Well, from what I learned of him, he did write out perfect manuscripts
    routinely. This has to make him stand out from the rest.

    An interesting Beethoven anecdote:
    
    Apparently, Beethoven was a bit of a slob, and for this reason did
    not get along well with his landlord. There was a window in Beethoven's
    Suite where he would open the shutters and sit on the windowsill and
    think... he had a habit of scratching music into the paint of the
    shutters... little bits and pieces here and there.
    
    The landlord eventually threw Beethoven out of the apartment (this
    was before his repuation had grown legendary). The next occupants
    found the scratched shutters and the landlord removed them and
    some years later sold them for a handsome price. In later years,
    Beethoven returned to the same apartment. The landlord made sure
    he kept a fresh supply of painted shutters on the windows, as
    Beethoven was unaware he had a little cottage industry going
    by selling them.
    
    -b

Did Beethoven rent from George Rauh?

    Intersting Beethoven Anecdote?  Where'd  I put that oxymoron note......
    
    Brian

    Watch it Brian, or I'll tell the Bach joke (and it isn't pretty)!
    
    -b

    Listed to some of my Bach CD last night.  While it didn't have the
    effect that it apparently does on a certain Mr. Markey, it was,
    nonetheless, quite enjoyable.
    
    (Toccata and Fugue in D Minor...  makes me want to run around the
     house wildly and flail my arms dramatically, but I refrain)
    

    Well, the toccata has graced just about ever horror movie:
    
    	D-C#-D.... A-G#-F-E-C#-D
    
    But the fugue is the really cool part (IMHO, of course).
    
    I take it the CD you purchased is organ music. Good form!
    
    -b

    
    That particular piece has been permanently ruined for me by `Sky'.
    
    {{{shudder}}}
    

    We used to play the Tocatta and Fugue from the largest stereo in the
    (gothic, three-story tall with towers) frat house out the back windows 
    when we had bonfires on the back lawn, down a steep hill.  The house
    looming above in the firelight with Bach's organ masterpeice pounding 
    away was such an impressive sight that it turned many of our lesser-
    exposed brothers into classical music afficionados.  The beer helped,
    of course.
    
    DougO

    Oh yeah, the fugue rules, fer sure.  I bear with the
    toccata (and horror movie flashbacks) to get to the
    good stuff.
    

    	RE: Bach's music...
    
    	I used to play some Bach organ music so loud our picture window
    	would vibrate. Of course, that was when no one was home but me
    	and I could crank up the volume.
    
    	Toccata and Fugue, Passacaglia and Fugue. You gotta love it.
    
    	I did refrain from flailing my arms, though.
    
    	Scott 

    re:  so loud the picture window would vibrate.
    
    Ah, there's the beauty of headphones.  'Though last night I
    got, "Mom!  How loud are you listening to the movie music?
    I can hear it all the way over here!"
    

| <<< Note 51.175 by MPGS::MARKEY "Ban assault tuna sandwiches" >>>


| D-C#-D.... A-G#-F-E-C#-D

	Brian, the alphabet goes, ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ, not D-C#D....:-)

    >Brian, the alphabet goes, ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ, not D-C#D....:-)
    
    What always got me was that weird letter "elemeno" in the middle there!
    :-) :-)
    
    -b

    But didn't they steal the alphabet tune from twinkle twinkle little
    star, which was stolen from the black sheep tune?

    
    I can sing the alphabet in greek, but we use a different tune 8^).

| <<< Note 51.184 by POWDML::LAUER "Little Chamber of Belgian Burgers" >>>


| I can sing the alphabet in greek, but we use a different tune 8^).

	Yeah... like just the letter oooooooooooOOOOOOOOooooOOOOOOoooo!!!!!!!

    Re: .180
    
    >Ah, there's the beauty of headphones.
    
    Au contraire.  To get the same vibratory effect, you'd have to trash
    your hearing.

    >Au contraire.  To get the same vibratory effect, you'd have to trash
    >your hearing.
    
    Unless you were sitting on them. :-)
    
    -b

     La la lallllaaa la la la lalaaaaaa

| <<< Note 51.188 by SNOFS1::DAVISM "And monkeys might fly outa my butt!" >>>


| La la lallllaaa la la la lalaaaaaa



	Been watching the Smurf's again, huh?

    
    
    could have been listening to 'centerfold' from j giels (sp)...
    
    

	Maybe..... but which would YOU think he was listening to??? :-)

    
    i plead the 5th...
    
    

    
    Would that be parallel 5ths or the circle of 5ths?
                                       

    
    
    Nope.... the Firth of Forth!!!
    

    >Nope.... the Firth of Forth!!!
    
    A very very cool instrumental by Tony Banks of Genesis, BTW.
    
    -b

    Re .189
    
    Smurfies is smurftastic. I smurfed it just the other day.

    I found this on Usenet in rec.music.makers.piano. It manages
    to convey many of my feelings about the attraction of the music
    of J.S. Bach. FWIW...
    
Hi there,

Many musicians, such as organists spend much of their career in the shadow
of J.S. Bach .  In learning his music or simply trying to be different.
Other composers are always compared to the man . When in Italy it is said
that all roads lead to Rome. During the Baroque you could argue that all
roads lead to Bach.   

The piano as an instrument comes well after the complete disappearance of
Bach from the musical scene.  During the 1800's there was a tremendous
development  of the piano literature, Chopin, Schubert, Brahms, 
and all of the other great piano composers.  The musical language "Sturm und
Drang" , etc all appeal to the emotional aspect of music. The piano is an
excellent instrument to execute these musical ideals. Certainly Beethoven on
the harpsichord doesn't work too well, yet Scott Joplin does. 
Bach's musical language is completely  out of step with the romantic notion.

One of my cherished possessions is a very old copy of the Bach WTC, as
fingered and edited by Carl Czerny. One could do a doctoral thesis on this
mans treatment of the music of J.S. Bach from this one edition alone.
He approached the music as any romantic pianist would, and in this day of
greater knowledge made just about every mistake possible. In a real sense
there is the music of J.S. Bach, and then there is everybody else. 

Bach treated music as intellectual property. Musical ideas treated
polyphonically require some of the greatest intellectual efforts to compose
and perform. Using instruments unable to match the human emotion, Bach
played with the deeper passion that comes from the human mind. Since the
mind created the passion for the music rather than pure emotion, the
instruments of the day were perfectly adequate. Bach's last piece the
monumental Art of the Fuge, has no specified instrument. Glenn Gould
understood this deeper passion perfectly well, and like Rosalyn Turak, have
done a great deal to help newer generations understand Bach.  Carl Czerny
seeing the notes on the page saw these as technical challenge to over come.
After all if you could play Liszt, why was Bach so hard? What was he trying
to accomplish? Making Bach musical seemed an after thought. To play Bach
successfully one needs a different technique, as well as an understanding
Bach and his music personally. Even among Baroque composers Bach was unique.
Regards,

Bert Rowson
(bert.rowson@oln.com)

    .197
    
    > "...Certainly Beethoven on
    > the harpsichord doesn't work too well, yet Scott Joplin does."
    
    i will not disagree with the former contention, but the latter is in
    need of a good whup upside the head; e. power biggs notwithstanding,
    anyone who knows scott joplin from janis joplin knows that trying to
    play a joplin piece like, say, bethena or solace on a harpsichord is
    risible.  your bach addict is a jerk.

    I agree Dick. It was the observation that Bach used polyphony, and in
    particular chordal harmony, to achieve a rich dynamic pallette on
    instruments that otherwise had limited dynamic capability, that caught
    my attention.
    
    -b

	palette

	but do not, under any circumstances, thank me

    Ah yes, but since I'm obedient I won't thank you, only point out
    that the assistance is appreciated, as variants on the words
    palette, pallet, always cause me great difficulty. It's
    a real bitch when doing GUI programming, I tell 'ya...
    
    -b

    Palette:  A small friend who tells off-color jokes.
    
    Chris

    
    
    John Tesh is coming to Channel 2, as if "the artist known as Yanni"
    wasn't bad enough.  
    
    Is this called broadening the audience?

| <<< Note 51.203 by WECARE::GRIFFIN "John Griffin ZKO1-3/B31 381-1159" >>>



| John Tesh is coming to Channel 2, as if "the artist known as Yanni" wasn't bad
| enough. Is this called broadening the audience?

	Oh, he is bringing his wife? 

    I think March is a beg month on PBS, and yes, Connie Selleca was
    visible in the promo I saw.
    
    

    We coulda been anything that we wanted to be
    It's not to late to change....

    I recently had a listen to a cut from a jazz CD called "People Time"
    with Stan Getz (sax) and Kenny Barron (keyboard).  I was so impressed
    with Barron that I scrawled the info on my hand as I drove & headed
    immediately to the nearest CD store where I ordered the CD.  I continue
    to be absolutely gobsmacked by the incredible rhythmic & harmonic
    complexity that Barron can produce.  His riffs in "Night and Day" are
    just spectactular.
    
    I've looked and looked for more CDs with Barron in solo but have come
    up empty.  Getz is/was fine, and their interplay is great.  But I find
    I'm far more interested in seeing what Barron will do next, rather than
    Getz.  
    
    Does anyone know of more CDs with Barron as accompanist, or as soloist?
    
    Are there Jazz aficionados around 'BoxLand who are familiar with
    Barron's music & who can recommend other keyboardists of like ability? 
    I'm very untutored in Jazz...?
    
    |-{:-)
    

    This is an unusual request and outta wack here all together but where
    can I get some Ernest Tubb's tapes. I can find a lot of the old Hank
    Williams and Tex Ritter tape's but not Tubb's.
    
    Thanks.

    
    Ernest Tubb and the Texas Troubadours!  I haven't thought of them in
    years.
    
    Shouldn't your local record store (if they're still called that) be
    able to special order them, if they're still available?

    Jennifer Warnes- Famous Blue Raincoat...great vocals, great
    recording...it seems to start out Jazzy, but ends up almost country. 
    Strange, but I liked it.
    
    (I know, this is certainly not new, but I've never heard the whole
    thing before this weekend).
    
    -steve

    .209
    My local music store is useless if I don`t have the recording company
    that they sang for. I don`t know whats become of the Texas Troubadours
    but Ernest Tubb`s is no longer with use (Died in 1984 I think). He is
    somewhere in what Tex Ritter called, "Hillbillie Heaven".

   I have a friend who has a magnificent record collection (with a lot of
    old country artists).  Being blind, he has a lot of time to listen
  to music..I'll be seeing him for lunch today and I'll ask him if he has
   any Ernest Tubb and the Texas Tubafores albums.  If'n he does we can
   make arrangements for taping.









 Jim

Tubafores?  Golfing with tubas instead of clubs?

    That would be great! 
    
    Thanks.
    
    Just let me know how much and I`ll gladly forward it.

 :-)  Years ago I heard a dj refer to ET and the TT's as "Tubafores" assuming
 he meant "2 by 4's"





 Jim

    
    My mother has an ET & the TT album, but she's in Florida.     
    
    I may have to snag that from her next time I'm down there 8^).

    that Jennifer Warnes 'Famous Blue Raincoat' CD is hard to classify. 
    I wouldn't call it country...more bluesy, but still.  The songs are all
    written by Leonard Cohen, about whom I know nothing, but evidently that
    says a lot to some people about the music.  Oh, and he does a duet with
    her on one of the songs.
    
    Dan K, I'll forward your question to a friend of mine who used to be
    here at Digital (mr bill probably remembers cathy austin) who hosts a
    local jazz show on the Stanford radio station in her spare time.
    
    DougO

    Thankee kindly DougO...  mucho appreciato, as ever... |-{:-)
    

The only reference I can find to Ernest Tubb in any of the many
catalogs littering my living room furniture is -

	American Pie
	PO Box 66455
	LA, CA 90066
	310-821-3389

Tubb, Ernest
	Walking the floor, Thanks Alot[sic], Waltz Across Texas, Soldier's
	Last Letter.
   Cassette - $9.99 - MCA10086
   CD        -$14.99 - MCA10086

        16 total selections (above plus 12)

Catalog is prolly 2 years old.

RE:                       <<< Note 51.208 by MAIL2::CRANE >>>

   > This is an unusual request and outta wack here all together but where
   > can I get some Ernest Tubb's tapes. I can find a lot of the old Hank
   > Williams and Tex Ritter tape's but not Tubb's.
    
    
    I spoke to my friend today, and as I suspected he has a few ET and the TT
    albums.  He said he'd be happy to make some tapes for you.  Send me mail
    and we can make the arrangements.



 Jim

    Had a few minutes to spare before my bus came to-night so dropped into
    the music store and found they were selling 3 CD's for $19.95, came
    home with The Hollies, The World of Puccini and Eric Clapton's (no
    reason to cry) the first two are good but the last was misnamed for
    sure, it is awful, there is not one good cut on it. 
    
    
    joan
    
     

        Clapton's a  wanker.  Unfortunately my wife thinks he's next to
        (if not) gawd  in  terms  of blues guitar, so I get to hear him
        regularly. I fight back with Hooker! :^)
        
        &y
             

    I found 'Famous Blue Raincoat' yesterday, and it was discounted to
    $9.74.  A gem at a "nice price".  8^)  (sounds great on my new, almost
    complete, home system).
    
    
    -steve

    
    Re: .221 Joan
    
    NO Reason to Cry was lousy.
    
    Try any live albums/CD's, especially 24 Nights!
    Avoid his studio albums/CD's that came out before "Behind the Sun"/

        
        &y, I always hesitate to say that I think EC is overrated,
	for fear of being struck by lightning, so it's nice to
	know at least one other person thinks so too.  I do like his
	Cream stuff and "From the Cradle" is good, (haven't listened
	to all the live stuff, Hank) but I don't think of him as the god
	of the instrument people make him out to be.  
             
	
	

    
    	Claptons live recordings are the only way to listen.
    	Studio cuts don't do him justice...at all.
    	And yes, he is GOD. Case closed!

	clapton *is* overrated!

	the best have passed on: Hendrix, Duane Allman, SRV, Danny Gatton

    Not only that but he's not as great as he is made out to be.

    I can't stand Neil Young's horrible whiny voice. I'll grant he's a
    great song writer, but I hate listen to his voice, especially when he
    sings words ending in r. I'd rather listen to Bob Dylan's vocal
    prowess.

Bless your souls, Glenn.  Neil Young ballads make my
ears bleed.  He must be hell on a dog's hearing.

    .222
    
    at least you're using the right ammo in the battle, &y.  if s&y can't
    discern the essential difference in quality (several orders of
    magnitude, i'd say), she's prolly beyond hope.

    
    If you want to have a really jaded opinion of the population,
    try being a radio DJ for a while. After 10,000 bozos a day
    request Stairway to Heaven or Freebird, you can pretty much
    conclude there's no intelligent life down here. Makes someone
    who listens to Neal Young or Eric Clapton a considerable
    step up, it does, and well, that's saying a lot in itself.
    
    -b

    I got "No Reason To Cry" as part of the same deal.  Not a great album,
    but I like some of the tracks, particularly the Dylan son, "Sign
    Language."
    
    -Stephen

    Hank has is correct; I concur EC live is his best work.  Lady Di,
    if lightening doesn't strike you, I WILL :-}
    
    I've been around as long as Clapton; I don't particularly care for
    the stuff he did with Cream and the early groups.  The more he moves
    toward traditional blues, the more I like him.
    
    

    overrated, as with most pop musicians.

    I don't think Clapton believes he's a god, or even a great blues
    guitarist.  From what I've seen of interviews, he sees himself as
    a student of the blues, not a master.
    
    Granted, I don't know much about guitar playing, but I do like Clapton.  
    His solos have structure and relate to the song as a whole; they're not 
    some "look at what I can do" digression for which the song is simply a
    conventional framework.

	A Flock of Seagulls flew overhead while I was at the Hudson MA Burger
King today. I was hoping they would land and do a couple of songs.

    Chels,
    
    That's how I read EC.  I don't know if you saw the recent interview
    he did prior to his latest tour.  He said he's tried playng all
    styles of music, at tims he's fought and railed against the blues, but
    he keeps coming back to them.  He says playing the blues "is the
    task I've been given to do".
    
    In many other interviews he's made it clear he does NOT want to
    play pop music, but he said most labels (and many of his old groups)
    wanted commerical albums.  He said this is why he finally realized
    he would not be happy as part of a group (I think this was a reference
    to the heat he took from fans as they blamed him for the breakup
    of Cream).
    
    Thank goodness for stereo VCRs; some of the best clips I have of
    Clapton are appearances he made with B.B. King (when King was
    inducted into Apollo Hall of Fame).  King requested EC do a number
    with him, then he brought on Jeff Beck, Albert Collins, and Buddy
    Guy.....outstanding!!  I have another special shown on HBO (B.B.
    King and Friends); EC, the late Albert King, SRV,  Paul
    Butterfield, Etta James, Dr. John.  EC actually seems to step backwards
    on-stage in deference to musicians that he considers the greats.
    
    He definitely does not take CLAPTON IS GOD seriously; he spoke of
    a time when someone took a picture of that painted on a fence.  He
    pointed out a small dog down in the left corner of the picture, it's
    leg lifted, peeing on the fence.  He laughed and said "that puts it
    in perspective, wouldn't you say"?
    
    Hey, we all have musical preferences; I have many albums/CDs by some
    of those mentioned above, they're my preferences. There are similari-
    ties in their styles and many distinct differences, EC just happens
    to be my favorite.
    
    

    PS re Clapton:
    
    I would be thrilled if I NEVER heard Layla or You Look Wonderful
    Tonight again!!  However, many concertgoers consider the concert
    a failure if he doesn't play them.
    
    

    Before my son desided he was old enough (at 30) to leave the nest, we
    went through every phase of music known to the human race (at one point
    he had a KISS poster on the ceiling over his bed) but just before he left 
    I noticed his taste in music was begining to change and he was playing 
    some of my old Dave Brubeck and Les Paul records I had brought from 
    England forty years ago. I also noticed most of my records and tapes,
    even Caruso and Makaba departed with him.
    And what did I pick up on the way home to-night, The Little River Band,
    The Carpenters and Benny Goodman Pure Gold, and yes I have been around
    for a few years. I hope this 3 CD's for $20 sale is over soon or I will be
    broke in no time.                                               
    
    joan 

 I've never been a real Clapton fan until I saw him live a few years ago.  I've
 got a few bootleg tapes of shows he did in London which also really got me
 interested in him..I don't have many Clapton albums..24 nights and From the
 Cradle..oh, and Unplugged..I like each of them.  Anybody who can play blues
 guitar is OK by me..



 Jim

 On the way home tonight I picked up a Doc and Merle Watson CD and a Mozart
 CD..




 Jim

    
    Joan, you're so droll 8^).

> On the way home tonight I picked up a Doc and Merle Watson CD and a Mozart
> CD..

Jim,

Come one down/over/whatever the lasted weekend in April. North
Wilkesboro, NC.

There's a Merle Watson Memorial Music Festival. Doc, Allison Krause,
Bela Fleck and all manner of musicinas of that ilk show up.

Drop me a line if'n you want more info or directions.

TTom

 Yow!  That would be quite a gathering!

    Got caught again, went to buy food and the first thing I see is a rack
    of CD's, a limited collection but a good price. My husband picked up
    Roy Clark and I got Classics In Films, I am not a big fan of C&W but
    Roy is easy to listen to.
    The Classics are the original sound tracks from 2001, Fantasia, Amadeus
    and other movies where they used classical music and very good it is
    too.
    
    I justify all this buying by telling myself that I am just building up
    my music collection again, although I have not even glanced at a
    Frankie Laine or Nat King Cole CD yet. 
    
    
    joan

    Got home Friday, and what should be wedged between the door and storm
    door but my latest order from BMG.
    
    Puccini, "Turandot," with Nilsson and Corelli.  Oldie but goodie.
    
    Stravinsky, "The Rake's Progress," with nobody of note singing, but
    conducted by Robert Craft.
    
    Revueltas' "Night of the Mayas" and other selections.  Oh, YESSSSS!

    I watched John Tesh. And yes, I survived.
    
    For those who compare him to Yanni, no way. 'Scuse me but, John
    Tesh can actually play. Yanni is a walking string pad, and is
    to composers what patrons are to outhouses.
    
    Tesh had a great band, including a guy who played keys and
    electric violin... he reminded me of one of my musical
    heroes: Eddy Jobson, formerly of UK and a stint with Jethro
    Tull. Tesh actually managed a decent marriage of progressive
    rock, jazz fusion and feel-good new age. Granted some of it
    was a bit overblown, but I didn't find myself with the urge
    to thrust my fingers down my throat like I did watching when
    I watched the Yanni special.
    
    I'd say, give the guy a break. Imagine, a pretty-boy TV
    personality that can actually do something. Very rare
    indeed.
    
    -b

    
    Mike Oldfield, _Tubular Bells 2_.
    
    I'm liking this.

    
    >Mike Oldfield, _Tubular Bells 2_.
    
    Cool.
    
    -b

    Wuz amongst the privileged few to actually take in the E. Power Biggs
    Memorial Concert at the old Busch-Reisinger Museum last Sunday.  Your
    basic "All-Bach-All-The-Time" program played limpidly by Joseph Payne. 
    Musta been an hour-and-a-half of solid counterpoint on the Flentrop
    tracker-action organ...  'Twuz heaven.  Everyone in the BosBridge
    music/arts community was there...  There was the traditional
    "How-Cambridge-Is-It" wine, brie, veggies, & dip reception in the
    Memorial Church afterwards.  I chatted with Robert J. Lurtsema & even
    met Payne and Mrs. Biggs herself.  Robert J. recalled, at my prompting,
    the April First broadcast of "Morning Pro Musica" some years back, when
    he played a solid 15 minutes of "The Collected Pauses of Robert J.
    Lurtsema."  He went on to say "The problem came when someone called in
    a couple of days later and asked for me to please replay them... but it
    was too late, I'd already unspliced the collection and had recycled the
    pauses back into future broadcasts..."  All told, a glorious drizzly
    afternoon, perfect for being washed in the cradle of Johann
    Sebastian...  

    I am most envious. E. Power Biggs deserves a statue in a place of
    prominence IMHO. No one shall ever make a greater contribution
    to the music and memory of JSB than he did, and he is a hero far
    worthier of praise than any general who ever sent young men
    and women off to die in a war...
    
    -b

    Curiously enuf, I tend to disagree...  While the old gent DID do his
    bit to popularize & revive ol' JSB, I always thought his own renditions
    were a bit pompous & stiff.  He DID look the part of the organist,
    that's for sure...  but give me a Helmut Walcha or a Jean Guillou
    or a Ton Koopman or a Joseph Payne anytime me bucko...  and even an
    Anthony Newman when you want REAL passion as well as deep
    comprehension...  But Biggsie...  kind of a liteweight, as I recall. 
    Not that anything's extant from him that's DDD so I haven't heard 'em
    in years.  All this imho ofcourse... 
    

    Biggs contributed a great deal to the popularity and
    accessibility of Bach's music. For this he deserves praise.
    Was he the greatest organist to play Bach? Not be a
    longshot. But that really doesn't diminish his contribution
    in my eyes.
    
    Oddly enough, the person who managed to first spark my
    interest in Bach's organ music was none other than
    Virgil Fox. He put out an album called "Bach Live At
    Filmore East" that has one of the most exquisite readings
    of the Fugue in A minor I've ever heard.
    
    Fox attacked Bach with passion, that's for sure, even if he
    did it with a bit of a Liberace flair. Putting on a Bach
    organ recital in a hippy rock enclave like the Filmore
    was certainly an example of throwing caution to the wind...
    but that's the way I think ol' Johann woulda liked it.
    
    Biggs was just about the opposite, but still worthy of
    the music of the master.
    
    -b

    if you want to give biggs a medal for popularizing bach, think twice. 
    as bob says, virgil fox was first on the organ, and i was myself drawn
    into bach not by the organ stuff but by the incredible passion of wanda
    landowska's "well tempered clavier" on the harpsichord.  'twas the
    elegance, yasee, not the bravura.

    
    Who's Bob? Did I miss something?
    
    -b

    argh.  brian.  brian!  BRIAN!!  sorry...

    No problem Dick... just wondered who this smart guy Bob was
    that liked Virgil Fox too... :-)
    
    -b

	maybe we'll get to see Bob's resume' next.

    i killed some bobs last night.  it was an accident, but they were
    between me and the pfhor, and the pfhor were shooting at me anyway.
    
    bob == b.o.b. == born on board, refers to individuals actually born on
    board the marathon space station.
    
    pfhor == the aliens attacking marathon.  they are not nice.  some of
    them are very not nice.

:-)

    Bach's Art of the Fugue, rendered by the Canadian Brass, is favorite
    of mine. It works surprisingly well on brass.

	any of youse guys know who did "Rock 'n' Roll, Part II"?

 Danny and the Jrs?

	I don't even know who did part 1!
	
	but, I've bee watching the History Of Rock, and Part II was on
	last nite.
	
	anyone else watch this? it's on this week on Al Kaprilian's very
	own teevee station. next week it's on tv38.
	
	great show. major flashbacks.

	it's an instrumental, except that every once in a while,
	somebody shouts, "Hey!".

    Rock and Roll Part II was done by Gary Glitter.

 Gary Glitter and the Sparkles?

>    Rock and Roll Part II was done by Gary Glitter.

	thank you, thank you, thank you.  all i could think of was
	Gary US Bonds, and i knew that was wrong.  ;>

    
    Gary Glitter had some wild stage costumes 8^).

 caught a great show on CH2 (Boston) last night..The Original Texas Playboys,
 with various folk filling in on vocals..Willie Nelson, George Strait, Mel
 Tillis...great stuff.  Not sure how long ago this was taped, but I believe
 on the the Playboys died not too long ago.  They don't make 'em like that
 anymore, that's for sure.



 Jim

    I got the soundtrack for "Pulp Fiction". Great rock n`roll.
    
    Also dug out the 1st Clash album t`other day. 
    
    "but he`s got a Ford Cortina that just won`t run without fuel. Fill her
    up,Jacko!"
    

	I heard a song on the radio this morning (imagine that) by Eric Clapton
called Promises. One phrase in that song has always puzzled me and I hope
someone can clear it up. 

	I've got a problem
	Can you ****


	It it wait, relate, or something else entirely?


Glen

    
    
    	Being a big fan of EC's, and especially fond of the song
    	Promises, I can tell you that it's 'relate', however, now that
    	I'm thinking about it, I can't remember the next line - and
    	it's driving me crazy...
    
    	Michelle
    
    	

	I've got a woman, causing my paaaaiiinnnnn.... 
	we've made a vow, it neverrrr would end
	how could we know the promises ennnnd
	lalaaaaalaalaalalala....etc.....

	I was listening to a song on WBCN at lunch time and heard a song that
people will either love, or hate. I don't know who does it, but the name of it
is, "You're UGLY, and I don't know why". Anybody know who does this? 



Glen

    An eclectic outing at Newbury Comics:
    
    Mott The Hoople: Mott
    Mott The Hoople: All The Young Dudes
    Velvet Underground: Best Of
    Frank Zappa: Overnight Sensation
    Dionne Farris: Wild Seed - Wild Flower
    Des'ree: I Ain't Movin'
    Otis Redding: The Ultimate
    Primus: Sailing The Seas Of Cheese
    XTC: Mummer
    
    All on CD (replacing some stuff on vinyl). Listening to Otis now...
    "I been loving yoooooouuuuu a little tooo looooong and I don't wanna
    stop now." Great stuff.
    
    -b

    
    Darn it.  I forgot to enter this earlier, when it might have been
    useful, but that's me, isn't it?
    
    Tomorrow, Saturday March 11th, at ~11:45am, the Sudbury Savoyards will
    be on 88.9 FM, WERS (Emerson College radio) singing selections from The
    Mikado.  Tune in if you're around.
               

  Went over to a freind's tonight to yak it up with he and his wife..his mother
  had sent him tapes of a country music station in Virginia that plays mostly
  bluegrass older country (hillbilly as we used to call it) and older gospel
  music..man, wish we had a station like that around here..



 Jim

	Hey Teeeerrrrrrieeeeee!!!!!!  I heard the song that your son did his
report on the radio this morning..... well.... the one he was SUPPOSED to do it
on.... heh heh......

    re .283
    
    WICN in Worcester has a great bluegrass show on saturday morning
    and another on tuesday night. Check the local college stations.
    New country is pathetic.

    
    
    You must have been listening to Eagle 93.7 this morning Glen!
    I heard it too.  :*)
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

	You know Terrie, I instantly thought of you when I heard the song....
as in I knew you'd hear it....

    
    
    Well, it is the only radio station I listen to, so chances
    are that if they play something between 6:30am-8:30am and
    5:00pm-6:30pm, I am gonna hear it.  :*)
    
    
    Terrie
    

    
    
    saw van halen's new video last nite...
    
    boy oh boy...eddie is sure looking mighty fine...got his hair cut and
    is now sporting a bit of a beard and mustache...sorta reminded me of
    greg evigan a bit...and i don't normally like the facial hair thing...
    
    

    
    
    	Took me a few times of watching that video to realize
    	that *was* Eddie!
    
    	According to my brother (he read this in Spin magazine),
    	Eddie lost a bet with Sammy .... if Sammy had lost he would
    	have been the one to shave the locks....
    

    
    Facial hair is a definite plus, methinks.  A kiss without a moustache
    is like an egg without salt.

I'm with Mz_Deb.  (Well, not *with* her, but, y'know)

    
    
    Ditto!
    
    
    :*)
    

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| A kiss without a moustache is like an egg without salt.

	Ya mean it becomes a little more healthy for ya??? :-)

>     -< No beard, no stash.... smooth like a baby's butt is puuurrrfect. >-

So Glen, you like kissing babys' butts?

	NOOOOO!!!!!   But I like that type of skin on a MANS face.

    man's
    
    I do not suffer from babyface illness.

Correcting my own spelling: babies'.

    
    
    
    Singing in the rain....just singing in the rain
    

    
    
    snarf
    

    
    it's raining????
    
    

    
    
    No.  i just like that song....
    

    
       Baby face, ya got the cutest baby face!

| <<< Note 51.297 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "bouncy bouncy" >>>

| I do not suffer from babyface illness.

	I know... :'(

    
    The 1928 recording of Yeoman of the Guard by the D'Oyly Carte Opera
    Company in the CD player on this PC.
    
    I keep singing along 8^).

    
    Mozart's Freimaurerkantaten, esp. the K.623 "Laut verkunde
    unsere Freude".
    

    
    
    god bless you
    
    

    .306
    
    I'm rather partial to the Maurerische Trauermusik (K.477), myself.

    "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star" still ranks as one of Mozart's all-time
    favorites, though.  
    
    After that, depite the ever-increasing genius an complexity of his
    music, his career simply went downhill...

    
    re .308 
    
    putting it on now - I have the Prague Phil. Chorus/Chamber Orch.
    version with me.

	I think the best song to ever come out of Canada was:


                      The Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksman

    Apparently, the Beates are coming out with a new record.
    They took a mono cassette recording of John Lennon and
    a piano, did some electronic fixing up (that's fixing
    I say, fixing... :-), overdubbed the rest of the Beatles
    singing, playing, etc.
    
    And later this spring, you, yes you, can savor a brand
    new old never before released rehashed Beatle recording.
    I knew you'd be happy...
    
    -b

    
    I don't know about these kids and their so-called "rock-and-roll"
    music.
    

    Went looking for Mel Torme's new release to-day but it is not here yet,
    saw a review in the paper last week that said it was very good, has any
    one heard it?
    
    Also tried to find a copy on tape or disc of a record i once had
    (befor it went north with my son) of Chet Aitkins and Les Paul, no luck
    there either, ended up paying $5 for The Best of the Ventures, now I
    know why it was on sale, Walk dont run is ok and so is the theme from a
    Summer Place but that is the oddest rendition on Slaughter on Tenth
    Avenue i have ever heard in my life.
    
    joan

    The Velvet Fog?

 Listening to a jazz CD I picked up tonight.  "The Theodross Avery Quintet"..
 fine stuff..happened to be in Tower Records in Boston a couplel weeks ago
 and they were playing..just got around to getting the CD tonight..


 Jim

    You can get a new multimedia CD-ROM of Mel Torme that only runs on
    Microsoft Windoze NT.  Any betz on what it's called?
    
    
    Mel TormeNT
    

    
    
    
    Anyone else wonder what the TV show "Night Court" did for Mel's
    popularity?
    
    
    
    Mike

    He also has a Dew commercial...

    Someone mentioned that.  I said he should be singing for Mello Yello.

    Are you trying to tell me no one out there likes Mel?
    
    joan

    The Velvet Fog?

    
    I love Mel Torme.

    The Velvet Fog?

    
    Yes, the Velvet Fog.  The Velvet Fog.  The effing Velvet Fog!
    
    Cripes 8^).

    What the hell is a velvet fog?

    Elevator music in the making.

    
    I'm going to kill you, Glenn, really I am.

    May I choose the method of execution?

    
    Ever see the movie _Deadly Weapons_?

    _no_ ?

    -1 does the name Chesty Morgan mean anything to you? :-)
    
    Chip

    
    It means "Way too much tit for anyone's good." That's what
    it means.
    
    -b

Is she the one who won against the IRS in claiming implants as a business
expense?

	Chip, does that mean the Richardson's will be dieing by being
smothered? :-)

    All right, you talked me into it!

    .327
    
    > Elevator music in the making.
    
    Can't stand the stuff.  Can't even deal with making in elevator music.

Music on hold is worse than elevator music.  At least it's longer.

American Movie Classics is running a 40's movie (The Gang's All Here)
in which Carmen Miranda performs "The Lady in the Tutti Fruiti Hat".

Now _THERE'S_ great music.

    .329
    
    Can I sell tickets
    
    joan

    Sure.

    Went and spent some of my winnings to-night, picked up Great Voices, a
    nice mixture, Ella, Carman, Lady Day, Sinatra, Eckstine and yes Torme.
    Also found a nice Les Paul Trio release from years ago and was
    surprised to find out that Chet's older brother Jim was part of this
    group. I also tried to find the music from the movie Dangerous Moonlight but
    the computer at the store had never heard of it.
    
    joan 
    

    The Velvet Fog?

    
    The Velour Mist?
    

	I went to strawberries last night to buy a cd from a group who's name I
could not remember. While looking downstairs in the new wave section, I heard
the song being played upstairs. I ran up, asked who sang it, and went back down
stairs and found it. I now have:







                       You're UGLY and I don't know why




	sung by....






                            THE BUTT TRUMPETS!!!!!




	It's a cross between punk, heavey metal and homecoming queen's got a
gun. It's a female band.

    
    
    	hehehehe...that's a great song! Soon to be banned in Leominster...
    
    
    jim

    
    I think someone needs to go and feel Joan's forehead.  I picture her
    flushed and trembling over her acquisitions.

| <<< Note 51.346 by SUBPAC::SADIN "One if by LAN, two if by C" >>>


| hehehehe...that's a great song! Soon to be banned in Leominster...

	You're kidding.... they have cd stores in Leominster? :-)


Glen

    Yes, we have CD stores in the Twin Cities TYVM.  Strawberries, Tape World
    Record Town all reside in or near to the Searstown Mall.  Some folks
    are trying to ban it from Leominster which will inadvertently and
    predictably make it ever more popular among the youngsters which will
    merely perpetuate the playing far beyond what would be expected for
    such a fine band.  IMO, the band is aptly named as the popular cut
    really does blow.  

	Brian.....it was when she talked about the name on the sunflower seeds
that did ya in on this song, right?

    No, it was the refrain and everything before and after.  
    
    Brian

    The Butt Trumpets is a pretty tame name compared to some I've seen.
    
    
    Foreskin 500, Fudge Tunnel, F^ck, The F^ckers, the Reverb
    Motherf^ckers, Day-glo Abortions are all names I've seen float past me.  
    Most of this music is pure crap.
    
    As for the Butt Trumpets, there was already a band named the Fartz.
    You probably wouldn't find any of this in Leominster.
    
    And of course, this doesn't cover specific songs on anybody's record,
    which can be sometimes out of control.  As for destroying the minds of
    our youth, I think MTV does a far better job of that than some silly
    record that sells 500 copies nationwide.
    
    Lisa
    

I liked the name `Pink Turds in Space'.  No idea what they sound like, I
just saw them in the NME gig guide, alongside Kitchens of Distinction,
Lawnmower Deth, Johnny Panic & The Bible of Dreams, F**k Off and lots of
other weirdies.

Chris.

    
    Let us not forget the "Painful Rectal Itch"...
    
    -b

    
    I would suppose if one were suffering from that malady, it WOULD be
    difficult to forget.

    RE: Painful Rectal Itch
    
    Er, um. that's a band name Mz. Deb... I wasn't trying to suggest
    I was a poster child for PRI or anything... :-) :-) :-)
    
    -b

    You'd take a back seat to no one if you were.

    
    Sure, Bri, sure 8^))))))).

    
    >You'd take a back seat to no one if you were.

    Gee thanks. I'd offer to turn the other cheek at this point, but
    I can just imagine where that would lead in this particular
    discussion.

    -b

    Is there some hidden message behind all of this?

    Butt out of his personal problems.

    
    No, I think we need to get to the bottom of this.

    who's going to ass the questions?

 Well, its all behind him now.

    I knew everyone would begin cutting cheezy puns. 

    How now brown cloud?

    
    <---too disgusting - i'm outta here.  where's the back door?

| <<< Note 51.366 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "KFC and tandem potty tricks" >>>

| How now brown cloud?

	Ahhh... to be in LA again....

    
    I picked up a "best of" CD from George Clinton's Parliament/Funkadelic
    era... Yeah!!!!!
    
    -b

    
    
    	Got turned on to Yanni over the weekend.  I always thought
    	he was just classical, sleep to music.  Not the case.  Next
    	BMG order is going to have Live at the Acropolis on it.
    
    	JJ
    

   Local guy makes good.  Teodross Avery first solo recording on that
   jazzzzzzzzziz label - GRP.  A funny thing happend to GRP, Michael Cuscuna
   (Mr. Blue Note) has joined the label.  So, if you are expecting a sleep
   inducing jazz ala Benoit/Brecker Bros/Grusin/Rippingtons/etc etc etc,
   you'll be disappointed.  (I wasn't.)
   
   Speaking of Blue Note, Novus just released recording of Carmen McCrae from
   1984.  Live from The Blue Note (no relation to the label) in the
   village.  Cashing in on yet another dead artist?  Perhaps.  Especially
   since it is "For Lady Day, Volume 1".  (No V 2 yet, Grrr.)  But a
   wonderful recording.  Seems they turned an FM simulcast gig into a CD.
   You want to hear Carmen at her best?  This is it.
   
   Yo, Joe.  How the hell do you turn out recordings of the latest dead
   guy so quickly?  You think maybe somebody your label will let you make
   a tribute to Henderson *before* you die?
   
   								-mr. bill

>   Local guy makes good.  Teodross Avery first solo recording on that
   jazzzzzzzzziz label - GRP.  A funny thing happend to GRP, Michael Cuscuna
 

    I saw he and his band at Tower Records several weeks ago..I bought the
    CD (is this the one mentioned above?)



   Jim






  

   
   Yup.  He got slammed by some aol-weenies, but what do they know.
   (Then again, I guess I slipped in a slam back there as well, but what
   do I know.)
   
   								-mr. bill

    Picked up "Last night at the proms, edition 100" and (this could be in the
    ttwa note) when they got to the end where the audience does all the
    work, i suddenly thought about how, back in the fifties at Wembley
    before the Cup Final game they used to have the crowd sing hymns, i always
    thought this was a good way to keep the fans under control and what a
    great choir those thousands of people made. Do they still do this or
    has it gone the way of the dodo like many other good ideas.
    
    Was also kinda caught off guard when they sang Land of Hope and Glory
    and found my self getting a little misty eyed, must be my age.
    
    
    joan  

 Picked up a George Shearing Quintet CD last night..Digital recording.  great
 stuff.





Jim

    
    I don't suppose it has _Caravan_?

> Picked up a George Shearing Quintet CD last night..Digital recording.  great
> stuff.

I know Robert Palmer is a musician, but I didn't realize music was one of
Digital's core competencies.

    
>    I don't suppose it has _Caravan_?


    Nope.  Can't remember the names of all the tunes, however.  It does have
    a couple Rogers (ooh er) and Hart tunes on it.



  Jim

>I know Robert Palmer is a musician, but I didn't realize music was one of
>Digital's core competencies.


  Whatever it takes! ;-)

    Best performance of Caravan I've ever heard is the one by Guy Van Duser
    and Billy Novick. Van Duser does guitar, Novick does sop sax.  When he
    was learning to play, Van Duser idolized Chet Atkins; the echo-chamber
    effect Atkins used particularly got him.  But he didn't know about the
    electronic reverb, so he learned to do the echo-chamber thing for real,
    with just his fingers and a guitar.  Fabulous.

   
   Ron Della Chiesa played the a few cuts (see *) from Starbuck's
   "Blue Note Blend" CD yesterday afternoon when the NPR news feed
   went kerplunk.
   
   *Nat Cole - "I Get A Kickout [sic] of You"
   *Sarah Vaughan - "You Stepped Out of a Dream"
    Count Basie - "Lullaby of Birdland"
    Dexter Gordon - "Le Coiffeur"
    Chet Baker - "Let's Get Lost"
    Thelonious Monk - "Straight No Chaser"
    John Coltrane - "Blue Train"
   *Louis Armstrong/Duke Ellington - "Duke's Place"
    Horace Silver - "Song For My Father"
    Billie Holiday - "Detour Ahead"
    Art Pepper/Chet Baker - "Minor Yours"
    Miles Davis/Cannonball Adderley - "Autom Leaves"
    US3 - "Cantaloop"
   
   
   Still want to know what jazz tastes like, still am amazed at the
   marketeering clout of Starbucks and Capitol, but all in all, an
   interesting idea.  $10.00 for a sampler though is a bit pricey.
   
   								-mr. bill

    
    <-- all those cuts are on this one CD?  That would be worth $10 to me.  

   
   All of them, well, except for "Autom leaves".  (Blush.)
   
   The way I figure it, if they don't have to ask a customer what they
   are drinking every morning, and if they know a customer loves jazz,
   well, they should just *give* such a customer a copy.
   
   								-mr. bill

    
    No names mentioned, of course 8^).
    
    Hmm, I can't stop humming Lullabye of Birdland now.

Me too.  Well, better that than some of the gakky songs I've tortured Di with.

 .385  Indeed, Mr. Sacks.  But, well, I think I'm stuck with "Caravan"
       today, which is just fine with me.  An inspired tune if ever there
       was one.

    
    Hmm, Caravan.  That's really much more hummable, I think.  Especially 
    this part:
    
    fwah FWAH fwah 
    (hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm) 
    fwah FWAH fwah 
    (hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm) 
    fwah FWAH fwah 
    (hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm)
    FWAH fwah fwah fwah, FWAH fwah fwah
    
    that comes right after the:
    
    hmmmmmm hmm hmm hmm hmmmmmhmmmm
    hmmmmmm hmm hmm hmm hmmmmmhmmmm
    hmmmmmm hmm hmm hmm hmmmmmhmmmm
    hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmmmmmhmmmm
    
    [all together now]
    
    fwah FWAH fwah
    (hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm)
    fwah FWAH fwah...
    

    {sigh}
    
    what a voice.

    RE: Caravan
    
    Patrick Moraz does a piece called "Talisman" on his new CD
    "Windows of Time" which incorporates the melody from Caravan.
    
    I have the good fortune of having 7 or 8 different versions
    of this piece on DAT right now, as I'm editing them for
    the upcoming Patrick Moraz live album... coooooooool stuff.
    (However, I cannot make copies of any of these for anyone.
    Sorry, but it is against US law to do so....)
    
    Check out Windows of Time though, available, so I've been
    told, at "Media Play" outlets...
    
    -b

    My wife and I saw Bettie Serveert at a night club last weekend in
    Seattle.  Great fun.
    
    Mark.
    

    
>    Hmm, I can't stop humming Lullabye of Birdland now.


  That song's on the CD!

   And Caravan?  Destroyed by texture mapping.
   
   								-mr. bill

>   On the Shearing CD?
 

 Yep.  Can't remember the name of the CD, but its a 1994 release.  Has
 a picture of 5 dogs on the cover, the one in the middle wearing GS's 
 sunglasses.


  
  
 Jim

<------is that where my sunglasses ended up??? I was looking for those...

Glen, the back of the album is a posterior shot of the dogs.  The middle one
is wearing your Speedo.

guess that means i'm naked right now..... :-)

  The name of the George Shearing CD I got is:


  "That Shearing Sound"

   Some of the tunes (13 in total on the CD)


   I'll Never Smile Again
   I Hear Music
   Girl Talk
   Lullaby of Birdland
   Autumn Seranade..



  On the Telarc label.


  Jim

    
    Oh, Girl Talk.  I love that one.

>  "That Shearing Sound"

Snip!

    
    ...BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH!!!

    
    
    quick..
    
    
    what are the words, or at least a stanza or two, to marvin gaye's 
    _sexual healing_????
    
    
    

        Little pressie  from  Sandy (who know I'd benn looking for this
        for some time):
        
        Duke Levine's "Country Soul Guitar" on CD - excellent!
    
        

    
    That's a great CD Andy... I'm not much for "country" so
    I never thought I would like this guy, but our sound
    man played it before a gig one night, and I was really
    impressed. Local boy too!
    
    -b

Duke Levine is an unlikely name.

        It's on the edge of driving out my 110 minute, all Hellecasters
        tape from the car, Brian - it's _that_ good! :*)
        
        &y
        

    
    I remember hearing a really interesting version of Henri Mancini's
    theme for Peter Gunn on the radio several years ago.
    
    It was done by Duke Levine.
    
    I'd never heard of him before and hadn't heard of him again -- till
    today.
    

        Not only that, but the Hellecasters also did "Peter Gunn"
        on "Return of The Hellecasters.
        
        Andy
        
            

    
    _Farmer's Market_ by Art Farmer.
    
    Wow.  That sings.
    
    
    
    
    
    [Disclaimer:  I've never seen the title written, so I suppose it could
                  be Farmers' Market, or Farmers Market.  I dunno.]

  I picked up a fine CD by The Seldom Scene tonight..I was poking around a local
  chain music store with my son, and was looking in the Blues section and found
  this CD..what the heck it was doing in the Blues Section is beyond me.  This
  is the same store I found a Doc and Merle CD located in teh "Country" section.



 Jim

    I like that new station EAGLE 93.7 (Out of Boston) really cool 70's
    tunes, the stuff that I listened to when I was in high school.

	yeah, that is a great station! It's the only station that still plays
Queen's song, "Somebody to Love". I've always loved that song! 


Glen

    
    Cannnnn
    anybodyyyyyyyy
    find meeeeeee
    somebody tooooooo
    love.

    
    
    Lynne, I think we must be about the same age. :*)  I slap
    people that change the station in my car. 
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

	Thanks Deb.... I'm gonna have to go home and play that now....

    
    
    Find somebody to loeove, find somebody to loeove....
    
    
    
    :*)
    

    
    I miss Freddie Mercury. I get totally bummed out every time I think
    about him. Perhaps the greatest vocalist in the history of Rock music,
    and one hell of a piano player too. A bit self-indulgent musically,
    but then, that's part of being a Queen.
    
    -b

    	Night at the Opera was a great album.

>>>    somebody tooooooo


shouldn't that be 	somebody tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo?

    
    I was doing the intro phrase, the tooooooooo and the love are both 
    shorter than in the ending phrase, which would probably sound more
    like:
    
    tooooooooooooooooooooooooo
    looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooove
    
     

Ahhh....  well than I take it back and right your are!   ( I was gonna 
mention that *love* should have been held a lot longer too, but didn't 
want to get too picky!)

 The only song by Queen that I really liked was "Crazy little thing called 
 love" because I loved the guitar solo in it.



 Jim

    
    
    and....it is the only station around here that plays sugarloaf's 
    "green-eyed lady"...
    
    and thanks to a rather musically-talented boxer, i can now hear that
    tune whenever i am at home... :> :> 
    
    

	Jim, that song is a classic, and yes, the guitar solo is great!

    
    ... and the best thing about Green Eyed Lady is the B3 solo.  A good 
    Hammond B3 is the only keyboard that should be allowed in a rock song.
    
    Sugarloaf have a couple other good B3 tunes - "Bach Doors Man/Chest
    Fever" and "Tongue in Cheek."
 
    Jon Lord (Deep Purple) and Gregg Rollie (early Santana, early Journey)
    have some sweet stuff, too.
    
    - Sean

    Queen ROOLZ!!!
    
    The best thing to happen to the 70s musically!

    
    best thing in the 70s was Boston, followed by BOC.

    	The best thing in the 70's was disco.
    
    	Disco shall return.  Perhaps I should put that in the predictions
    	topic...

  Thud!

    	You just gotta love the thud of that disco beat!

    	Where are the Bee Gees?  Donna Summer?  Why didn't Queen do
    	any disco songs?  Led Zeppelin would have been able to claim
    	music supremacy had they only done some disco!

    
    
    gotta admit i like most of the disco stuff from the 70's...donna summer
    was incredible...but classic rock was just a great on the other end of
    the dial...
    
    

    Death before disco.  

    It's the same thing, isn't it?

	Mark, disco may bring on death, but death can't happen before disco...

    In my case, yes it will.  I will never be a disco fan, ever.  KISS 108 
    and the like will never occupy the presets on my radio.  Disco can be
    prevented.  Just say no.  YMMV etc.  
    
    Brian

    Never liked Queen. Far too pompous,for my tastes.
    
    But surely Queen did disco on the Hot Space album?? Eg,Another One
    Bites the Dust is fairly disco,and other stuff from that extremely
    dodgy album are disco.
    
    My favourite disco has got to be Chic. The interplay between Nile
    Rogers and er,the other bloke was absolutely sensational.
    
    "now freak....."
    

    >    Never liked Queen. Far too pompous,for my tastes.
    
    
    But, that's the attraction!  Way too campy to be taken seriously, but
    still VERY fun to listen to.

	I did hate the song, "Flash Gordon" though. Never could get into it.


Glen

    I just got the Queen at the BBC CD. ***WOW*** I only liked their first
    two records. The rest was pretty much made-for-radio, and of little
    interest. This (and the original two) are the stuff quitar legends are
    made of. I always thought they sold out with that opera stuff.
    
    
    							Derek.

    "News Of The World" is a classic...
    
    SueJ

    
    
    i really like queen.  when i got my first 'stereo', my first record
    that came with it was their 'play the game'...still have it, after
    15-1/2 years...one of my favs by them (not sure if it is on this album)
    is 'best friend'...
    
    

    
    	Yup, actually the album is "The Game" and "Best Friend" is on
    	there.
    

    
    
    it's monday...i'm tired...leave me alone...
    
    
    

    
    So this "Best Friend" song you're talking about, it's a different song
    than their "You're My Best Friend" which is on _Night at the Opera_?

	same song....

    ... But with a different beat since you've been gone...
    
    ME

    	re .446
    
    	Boomtown Rats.  I Don't Like Mondays.

    
    
    joe...what are you talking about?????
    
    

    
    Made sense to me.

    
    
    it would...
    
    
    

 Knock it off you 2!

    
    
    		{{{insert look of total astonishment}}}
    
    
    

    	re .451
    
    	Boomtown Rats did a number called "I don't like Mondays."
    
    	It's about a girl who snaps and shoots up her school because
    	she didn't like Mondays.

    
    ... and, Bob Geldoff, the guy who sang the song, appeared in the
    film version of Pink Floyd's "The Wall", and was also the promoter
    of the 1985 "Live Aid" concerts...
    
    -b

Yeah, him and Midge Urgh (of Ultravox mk II fame) also wrote the
bloody awful `Do They Know It's Christmas'.

Chris.

    
    	That song is a veritable "who's who" of European vocalists [well,
    	I use the term loosely].
    
    	Simon Le Bon
    	Bono
    	etc.
    

    
    
    i get ya now...had no idea there was a song called 'i hate mondays', or
    whatever you said it was called...
    
    
    

>    	It's about a girl who snaps and shoots up her school because
>    	she didn't like Mondays.

isn't that song based on a true story?

Chris.

    	re .-1
    
    	At the very least, music lore says it's based on a true story
    	if the album cover doesn't...

    I wuz watching Top of the Pops from `81 on UK Gold last night.
    
    Such gems as U2 with,er something to do with "Fire" Siouxsie and
    the Banshee`s "Arabian Nights" and best of all,UB40 doing "one
    in 10".
    
    "I`m the tramp in the gutter,can you spare a dime?
     i`m the child who can`t read,`cause no one can spare the time
    
     I am the one in ten,
     even though I don`t exist.
     Nobody knows me,but i`m always there.
     A statistical reminder of a world that doesn`t care".
    
     I particularly liked the bass player with his t-shirt done out like
     a Marlboro packet. But instead of Marlboro it said "Marijuana". Nice
     touch.
   

  Stevie Ray Vaughn did a fine version of Tin Pan Alley.
 I'd forgotten how much I liked it.




 Jim

	  Stevie Ray Vaughn did a fine version of anything! :-)

  fer sher, dude

	he was on teevee this weekend. Best of something or other on PBS
	(Austin City Limits, I think.) 
	
	sniff,

 I think I have that one on tape...when is ACL on around here (New England).
 I can never find it.





 Jim

    
    TTLLN:
    
    `Imaginary Landscapes', a film on Brian Eno.
    
    A fascinating individual, with a unique perspective on music.
    I've been a fan for many years now.
    
    jc
    

    
    "There's a race of men in the trees!  I'm *for* tough legislation!"
    

    
    Right now I'm listening to `Dummy' by Portishead.
    
    Best CD I've bought since `This Is How It Feels' by the Golden
    Palominos.
    

    
    
    as i told a couple of others yesterday, i swear i heard a remake of
    that stupid parking lot song on the radio yesterday...and i don't mean
    the station that normally plays the 70s stuff...
    
    

    
    They paved Paradise, and put up a parking lot
    With a pink hotel, a boutique, and a swinging hot spot!
    Don't it always seem to go
    That you don't know what you got til it's gone
    They paved Paradise, and put up a parking lot!
    

    I`ve been listening to the latest SNFU album,Meat Puppets "Under the
    Sun" and Van Halen 2.
    

    You can run Mz_Deb but you cannot hide.  The check is in the mail so to
    speak.  From the Wine (in a box) Spectator soon to be gracing your
    mailbox....
    
    "Howdy all you wine con o' sewers! (little wine joke there ed.)  May is
    for Merlot and this month we feature a fine little number that is just
    coming around to drinkability.  This is one fine slurping wine yes
    indeedy.  From the Franzia collection of fine wines we have a late 1994
    Merlot (pronounced MER-lot) which is now coming of the production line. 
    Lip smackin' and easy to guzzle.  Quite consistent from box to box too. 
    Once you puncture the seal on your first box, you will want to stock up.  
    We keep one in the fridge in case company happens to drop by, you will 
    too.  A definite thumbs up.  Look for it at a 7-11 near you in convenient 
    1 litre bag in box and the all new 2 liter pouch!"    
    
    Brian

    
    Stay where you are.  I'm on my way over to kill you.

    You were warned, crossed the line, and must now pay for your
    transgression.  It is just, it is right, and it will be.  Besides, you
    started it. :-)

    
    8^o
    
    *I* didn't start it!  It's all Raquel's fault!
    

    No, you failed to show restraint and gleefully sent me a complete
    rendition knowing full well that it would make my skin crawl.  You must
    and will suffer.  Just wait until you see what June brings.  You will
    think a fruited chard is exstasy in comparison to the review of "The 
    Wines of the Fenway" feature article.  

    
    
    RE: Music...if you can call it that... :*)
    
    
    
    Oh Glen....Jake Ivory's party Saturday May 13th...wanna go again? :*)
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

    
    
    i didn't do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    

    	I also heard the remake of "Paved Paradise" or "Yellow Taxi"
    	or whatever it is called.  Joni Mitchell redid it.  Sounded 
    	mostly the same, but had some new verses (or at least it
    	seemed to have new verses -- it was what the clock radio
    	turned on to wake me up this morning.)  I don't recall
    	hearing the ending being the same as the old where she used
    	to do
    
    	They paved paradise\
    	(high-pitched voice)\
    	                     \
    	                      \  (low pitched voice)
    	                       \ put up a parking lot  (fake giggle)
    
    
    	... but maybe I dozed back to sleep during that part ...

    
    
    actually, according to the e-mail i got this morning from the dj at the 
    radio station from which i recently heard this 'remake', amy grant is 
    the singer of the song this time around...
    

    
    
    Oooh boy, now there's a deadly combo... Amy Grant and Big
    Yellow Taxi...
    
    Now, maybe if she did a remake of "Paradise by the Dashboard
    Light..."
    
    -b

    Re: .473
    
    >Right now I'm listening to `Dummy' by Portishead.
    
    "Nobody Loves Me," yes?  Saw it on VH1, of all places.  My, how they've
    changed lately.

    
    .487, Chelsea:
    
    Yes.    :^)
    

    "Big Red Letter Day" by Buffalo Tom.
    
    Mark.

    re: .473
    
    Oh, no wonder I couldn't find it - I thought they
    were "Tortoisehead".  Dang dj's can't pronounce
    anything...... I thought it was a weird name for
    a band...
    
    Mary-Michael

	> thought it was a weird name for a band...
    Yeah, Portishead is MUCH more normal.

    re: .491
    
    Oh indeed.  It's much more common for them to make
    no sense whatsoever...... :-)
    

Quite the eclectic one today. The CD's I grabbed that are with me include -

	15 tracks of Tunes and Medleys performed by the 48th Highlanders
		of Canada/Scottish National Pipe and Drum Corps
	20 Classical Marches by Tchaikovsky/Strauss/Chopin/Beethoven/
		Verdi/Others
	A collection of Strauss Waltzes
	Prison Blues of the South: Recorded Live at the Mississippi and
		Louisiana State Penitentiaries
	Patsy Cline: Today, Tomorrow and Forever
and	Ramsey Lewis: Greatest Hits

    Re .493
    
    Gee Jack,   Now all you need is a little Iron Butterfly and some
    Bob Marley to round out your day }8-)}
    
    

I almost threw "Legend" into the bag as well.

    
    	Stopped into a music store in Westboro MA ["Beat'n Trax", I think]
    	and went through the "4 for $10" CD bin a couple weeks ago and
    	came out with 8 new CD's for 1/5 regular price.
    
    	One of them is a real gem from Skrapp Mettle called "Sensitive".
    	The title track starts out:
    
    	"You're so sensitive,
    	 I'm gonna slap you in the face when I meet you.
    	 You're so sensitive,
    	 I'm gonna tie you to a tree and beat you.
    	 You're so sensitive, sensitive ... now piss off!!"
    
    	The rest of the songs are just as meaningful and thought-provoking.
    	8^)
    

    
    <--- Maybe I can get Jack Martin to sing me a cover of
         this song, seeing as I'm suddenly a synsytyve
         guy... :-) :-)
    
    -b

    
                 -< "I Wanna Kiss Her, But" - Tim [somebody] >-
        
    
    	I was ridin' on a train to Austin Texas,
    	when a very lovely lady sat next to me.
    	When she got up to eat,
    	she asked if I would hold her seat.
    	I was more than happy to,
    	and now there's more I'd like to do.
    
    	I wanna kiss her but she won't let me,
    	I wanna whisper sweet nothings in her ear.
    	I wanna hold her behind closed doors and more,
    	I wanna kiss her but she won't let me.
    
    	When she returned she said she was an actress.
    	She showed me an album of pictures of her opening,
    	which she'd been sittin' on.
    	She seemed as sweet as she could be,
    	but I could clearly see,
    	she was the kind of girl
    	who stole men's hearts then 'recked 'em.
    
    	I wanna kiss her but she won't let me,
    	I wanna whisper sweet nothings in her ear.
    	I wanna hold her behind closed doors and more,
    	I wanna kiss her but she won't let me.
    
    	I'll never forget that train ride down to Austin.
    	We shared our seat, and we shared our tales.
    	But as my heart tried to leave her behind,
    	regrets are all I'd find.
    	'Coz I hoped I'd get that girl in the end
    
    	I wanna kiss her but she won't let me,
    	I wanna whisper sweet nothings in her ear.
    	I wanna hold her behind closed doors and more,
    	I wanna kiss her but she won't let me.
    

    That's Great!!  Expresses my sentiments exactly!!   The one about
    sensitivity that is!!!
    
    

    Why do some companies give you more information than you need, and
    others give you none?
    
    On the Best of George Shearing disc I have, there is nothing but the
    name of the tunes and I just assumed that was it all the same group, then
    on the last cut I heard this humming in the background, which to me
    say's that it's Hampton on the Vibes. Why would they not mention this?
    
    I also have a Pete Fountain with no history at all, I guess they take
    it for granted that if you are a fan, you do not need to be told.
    
    joan 

    
    	Yup, I noticed that.  I picked up a CD by a band called "Attila/
    	The Hassles" which features Billy Joel.  Looks to be very early
    	70's [if not late 60's] by his picture on the cover.
    
    	Good stuff ... but there are NO credits on this thing.  I know
    	Billy sings on a bunch of the songs, but I'm wondering if he also
    	did the keyboard work [which is very good].
    

    
    CD reissues are typically done from master tapes; frequently
    the supporting documentation (liner notes) is lost. The
    record company doesn't tell you the stuff you'd like to know
    because they don't know the answers either.
    
    The artists and/or the producer may know the answer, if they're
    still alive, but it's probably not worth it to the record
    company to spend the time and money tracking it down. After
    all, it's not the liner notes you're buying the thing for...
    
    -b

    
    how 'bout this group called "blues travelers"?

    
    Hey Markey De Sade...I saw your friend G. Gordon Liddy on the cover
    of one of those bass player magazines modelling his new 3-string!
    
    :^)
    

    
    Bah humbug. I'm no friend of G. Gordon Liddy, that effin'
    liberal! :-)
    
    -b

    
    There's a new Led Zeppelin tribute album coming out. Lots
    of really cool stuff. Hootie and the Blowfish, Four Non Blondes,
    a great list ... except for Sheryl (gak) Crowe. As usual,
    she blows chunks. Thank god for skip play.
    
    -b

Does it include Tori Amos' version of `Thank You'?  That was, er,
different...

Chris.

    
    Yes, I think it does.
    

    
    You know, it isn't often I here a new group I like - maybe a
    couple of times a decade.
    
    Hootie and the Blowfish may be my first in the nineties.
    
      "Let her cry - tears fall down like rain
       Let her go, let her walk right out on me
       And if the sun comes up tomorrow, let her be."
    
      bb

    
    A friend of mine has a CD with 12 or 15 different versions of `Stairway
    To Heaven', including an Elvis-style, a Beatles-style, and my favorite 
    was the B-52's style version.
    
    The CD wears thin real fast, though.
    

    So far, the video and song that has most impressed me from the
    Zep tribute is Four Non Blonde's version of "Misty Mountain
    Hop". The video is cool too, as it is based on the "block
    of flats" cover from Zep's Physical Graffiti.

    -b

    
    
    Hey Dusty,
    
    Ain't nothing wrong with Cheryl C.  Nothing wrong at all.  Also love
    Crissy Hines as well.
    
    
    Mike

    
    Well, gotta say that Sheryl's voice annoys the hell out of me and
    looking at her does not get woody to come in from the cold either.
    
    Did you mean Chrissie Hynd by the way? From the Pretenders? I
    don't think I spelled it right either, but if that's who you're
    referring to, I bet I'm a lot closer! :-) :-)
    
    Anyway, I think CH is cool and I love the Pretenders...
    
    -b

    ooohhh...does it have the Wilson sisters from Heart playing Battle of
    Evermore?  I heard them do that live at the Bridge Benefit last year
    and it was spectacular- never thought I'd hear it attempted, much less
    done so well.
    
    DougO

    >FYI, Heart started out as a Zep tribute band.
        
    you mean, pre-Dreamboat Annie?
    
    One would never have guessed.
    
    DougO

    FYI, Heart started out as a Zep tribute band.
    
    But no, I don't think their version is on the Zep tribute.
    However, it is released elsewhere. I have it, but since I
    haven't listened to it for several years, I can't recall
    where...
    
    -b

>    Well, gotta say that Sheryl's voice annoys the hell out of me and
>    looking at her does not get woody to come in from the cold either.

I think she looks okay, but that last single of hers (`I Just Wanna
Have Some Fun'?  Whatever) was dreadful.
    
>    Did you mean Chrissie Hynd by the way? From the Pretenders? I
>    don't think I spelled it right either, but if that's who you're
>    referring to, I bet I'm a lot closer! :-) :-)
    
I'm glad you said that, I can't remember how it's spelt either!  :)

Chris.

    Sheryl looks okay in the "I just wanna have some fun" video.  Of
    course, she probably only got my attention due to her reddish hair. 
    8^)  I've seen her elsewhere and she looks rather rough (MTV unplugged,
    for one).
    
    
    -steve 

    
    I love red hair. But that doesn't keep her from blowing chunks.
    

>    I love red hair.

hmm, I thought I was alone with that...

Chris.

    
    I don't like the wirey-haired freckled look, but a nice crop
    of auburn or red hair is a definite turn-on.
    
    -b

    
    Well, I ain't talkin about her looks, I like her voice.  
    
    And as far as the spelling of CH's name goes, you know who I meant. :')
    She has a great voice.  Love Stand By You (which is prolly not the name
    of the song, but hopefully you'll know what I mean here as well. :')
    
    
    Mike

    
    	Sheryl's OK ... not bad to look at, and "All I Wanna Do" is OK,
    	but the rest of the album isn't my cup o' tea.  Glad my sister
    	wasted the money on it so I could borrow it for free.
    
    	Chrissy Hynde is the spelling, BTW.  And she's scary.
    
    	RE: Brian
    
    	If by "seismic anomaly", you mean "originator of earthquakes",
    	then Ann's the one you're referring to.
    

    
    
    RE: Hynde scarey.....Oh my...Do I actually *agree* with Slabounty????
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    <shiver><quiver>
    
    Terrie
    

Like what's with the deleted notes...?

Chris.

    
    	RE: Chris
    
    	Deleted notes?  If you mean me, I replied, realized I wanted to
    	add another paragraph instead of adding another REPLY, and I
    	deleted and re-posted.
    

    
    Oh yeah, Ann, I get those two confused. Nancy isn't nearly
    as, er um, cherubic. She's actually rather good looking.
    Ann is the bovine one.
    
    -b

    
    Oh, and let me add, that the Judds suck and I really wish
    they would make good on their threat to go away.
    
    -b

    I heard a great cover of "Rock n Roll" by Heart.

>>    I heard a great cover of "Rock n Roll" by Heart.

	you mean led zep's "rock n roll"?  if you do, then arrgh!
	sacrilege.  my favorite of theirs, next to "what is and what
	should never be".

    >you mean led zep's "rock n roll"?  if you do, then arrgh!
    >sacrilege. 
    
     Yes, led zep's "rock n roll". I was prepared to not like it, but it
    was killer.

	do'n'do o bop bop a do-oh
	my my my my my my yeah

    
    	Is that a song, or the results of a horrible medical condition?

    Great cover of "Rock 'n Roll" is an oxymoron.  Doctah, come out of the
    70's.
    
    Having said that, I don't really like the Stone Temple Pilots *or* LZ,
    but their cover of "Dancing Days" is a killer.
    
    Mark.

	taken by itself it's the result of self-administered medication.
	
	taken with the rest of the lyrics, it's a great song.

    I got Rancid`s "Let`s Go" album. 23 punk rock songs. "C`mon baby
    show me wot you got,yeah! I want your salvation woooahh,wooahh"
    
    A dreadful Meat Puppets 5 track CD. Odd since their later stuff is
    so excellent.
    
    Also "Word up!" CD by Cameo and er,America`s Greatest Hits. "I`ve been
    through the desert with a horse with no name.."
     

    Pet Peeve:
    
    Songs that "fade out" at the end, instead of having an ending.
    Seems lazy, and kind of a cop-out on the writer's part.  Many,
    if not most, oldies fade out, and it really irks me.  It's like
    something is missing that should have been there, and the song
    seems incomplete.
    
    When I was a kid, I used to think that the radio stations did this
    just to cut the songs short, but no, they're "designed" that way.
    Who invented this "feature", anyway?  I'm trying to think of the
    first song where I heard it, but it's way too long ago.
    
    Chris

re fade-outs,

on a number of my CDs there's various songs which, if you listen *very*
carefully at the end, do actually have proper endings, but the producer
decided to fade them anyway.  Why?!

Chris.

    
    those titles sound absolutely ghastly.

    When you have a really nice line, like the chorus hook, that
    you can fade over, it's a nice effect. Psycho-acoustically,
    it suggests that the song doesn't end. You just get weaned
    off of the song, so to speak.

    I'll use a fade if I think the setting is right. Writing a
    so-called "proper ending" for every song is a bit much,
    especially since live, most bands tend to segue quickly
    from one to another anyway.

    -b

    Fades are easier for segues.  A friend of mine once did an awesome,
    seamless segue from a song with a synth fade into a song with a synth
    intro.  Such moments make a dj's day.

    Simple pleasures for simple minds...

    any truth to the rumor that Yanni will change his name to 
    
    YAWNNI!

    
    When I log into my voicemail account by punching 3-8921#, I feel oddly
    compelled to sing "Easter Parade". 

  .545  aaagagagagag!

    	re .545
    
    	I once saw a whole book of music you can play on the telephone.

    
    My parent's phone number is the "Campdown Races" theme...
    
    -b

    Camptown

 .549  you've called his parents?

    >My parent's phone number is the "Campdown Races" theme...
    
    Without the Doo Dah, I assume?
    
    ...Tom

    
    Sans doo dah, that is correct.
    
    -b

    As I have not had to spend money on bus tickets for the past three
    weeks I thought I would splurge and get some more CD's.
    
    The first one was "Moonlight in Vermont" with Johnny Smith, featuring
    Stan Getz, very nice, although, his rendition of "Lullabye of birdland"
    is the most unusual I have heard yet.
    
    The second was "Dan HIll greatest hits and more" Juries still out on
    that one.
    
    Third, "The Moody Blues" a night at RED ROCKS with the Colorado
    Symphony Orchestra. I guess I'm not a disco type person.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Back to Simon & Garfunkel :>)

    More CD's?!?!?
    
    You're the CD Queen!

    
    Oh, I LOVE Lullabye of Birdland.
    
    

    You have to hear this version, the only thing I can think of, is
    Elizabethean.
    
    But the whole disc is good.
    
    joan

    I simply must rave about a new CD I bought and listened to tonight 
    - the band is called "BONEPONY" and their debut is called "Stomp Revival".
    It's a trio of guys from Tennessee and the music is great - reminds me
    a bit of "Hootie and the Blowfish", or "The Dave Matthews Band" or
    maybe even some early Skynard (sp?). I especially like the second
    track, "Where the Water's Deep" - this was playing in the store and is
    what prompted me to purchase the CD.  I have been burned before doing
    this, but this record does not disappoint. The liner notes list the
    Sounds on this Record:  Vocals, Mandolin, Mandola, Flat-Top Acoustic
    Guitar, Arch-Top Acoustic Guitar, Arch-Top Bass, B-3 Organ, Wurlitzer
    Piano, Violin, Harmonica, Bass Harmonica, Fretless Bass, Drums of every
    description, Cymbals, Buckets, Guiro, Shakers, Handrum, Foot Stomps,
    Handclaps and Finger Snaps.

Skynyrd.
HTH,

Chris.

    Ian Dury and the Blockheads - Duke box Dury.
    
    Awesome musicianship. You don`t appreciate it when you`re a nipper.
    (I remember being about 9 or 10 years old when "Hit me with your
    rhythm stick,2 fat ladies click,click,click,it`s nice to be a 
    lunatic" came out). 
    
    

    
    	That song is on the "New Wave Hits of the 80's" set.  10 Volumes,
    	150-160 songs total.
    

    They have just (well not 'til Monday) released the new CD by Red Hot
    Chilli Peppers called 'My Friends'. How long has this been around for
    in the US.
    
    The music over here is so behind and it's completely crap. I can't
    wait to get back home. It's going to take me 6 months just to get back
    into the swing (excuse the pun) of things.

    Isn`t the new Red Hot Chilli Peppers album called "Red Hot Minute"?
    Very good,by all accounts.
    
    And I must say I do like all this great new British pop stuff going 
    about. Bands like Supergrass,Oasis,Blur,Charlatans are excellent. Going
    back to guitar based music in the style of Jam,XTC,Buzzcocks etc.
    
    After 10 years nothing to do with rave,rap,grunge or America.
    
    Hurrah!
    

    Errr, yeah.. my mistake. The song 'My Friends' is a good one though !

                     What comes the day after Halloween?






                       Christmas music of course!  :-(

    
    	As long as I get to hear Stryper's "Winter Wonderland" 10 or 20
    	times I'll be happy.
    
    	And no, I'm not kidding.  I love that song!!
    

	Santa Baby....Madonna

    as previously discussed.... my fav "newish" Christmas song is "Father
    Christmas" by ELP.  

    Okay, I'll bite.
    
    Why would one wish to call up MTV or send them mail to play an
    allegedly lousy song by a certifiably horrible group?  What is the
    protest about?  Too much rap, pop or pap?  Not enough cartoons?  inane
    dating shows?  What should we be protesting or supporting?  Help us
    help you, Buckeroo.  

    
    	If you watch MTV, which I guess you don't, then you'd know that
    	they've basically transformed themselves into a 20 hour/day rap
    	and hip-hop station.  Then maybe an hour for popular music and
    	3 hours for idle chatter and commercials.
    
    	The HBB [Head Bangers' Ball, heavy metal music] is gone also.