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Conference back40::soapbox

Title:Soapbox. Just Soapbox.
Notice:No more new notes
Moderator:WAHOO::LEVESQUEONS
Created:Thu Nov 17 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:862
Total number of notes:339684

46.0. "It's....Make-Up-A-Fact-Friday" by AYOV20::MRENNISON (Modern Life Is Rubbish) Fri Nov 18 1994 10:13

    
    It's Make-Up-A-Fact-Friday.....
    
    
    Have fun....
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46.1AYOV20::MRENNISONModern Life Is RubbishFri Nov 18 1994 10:1814
    
    Tory MP's are very honourable and trustworthy people.
    
    Bill Clinton is the most popular President since Jimmeh Cawruh
    
    Gene Haag is scared of loud noises
    
    John Covert is a proddy
    
    Mailroom is actually Boutros-Boutros Ghalli in disguise
    
    Nelson Mandela is actually white 
    
    The BoxMods are all members of the CIA
46.2moreBRUMMY::WILLIAMSMBorn to grepFri Nov 18 1994 11:0919
    Muesli is good for you
    
    The soapbox conference is working perfectly
    
    Sex is over rated
    
    The NHS is safe in tory hands
    
    We are putting the customer first
    
    Performance related pay is fair
    
    The world needs another design of screw head
    
    Cencorship will stop children dieing
    
    
    
    r. Michael.
46.3REFINE::KOMARJust when you thought it was safeFri Nov 18 1994 11:331
Rush Limbaugh and Bill Clinton actually agree on a lot of things
46.4GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERFri Nov 18 1994 11:406
    
    
    
    Actually this happened yesterday.  Media is saying that Rush Limbuagh
    had an influence on the guy who shot up the Whitehouse.
    
46.5REFINE::KOMARJust when you thought it was safeFri Nov 18 1994 11:513
	Amazing how the media can see things that nobody else can see.

ME
46.6GMT1::TEEKEMAFri Nov 18 1994 12:053
	This is the greatest company on the face of this earth to work for,
	Really, honest..................%^)
46.7BIGQ::SILVAMemories.....Fri Nov 18 1994 12:324


	DEC stock jumps up 150 points!
46.8OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Fri Nov 18 1994 13:261
    Now, Glen, you know a stock can't go _negative_.
46.9NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Nov 18 1994 13:531
Snarfs are witty.
46.10POLAR::RICHARDSONThe Pantless Snow-BaggerFri Nov 18 1994 13:561
    Carvings are whittley.
46.11BIGQ::SILVAMemories.....Fri Nov 18 1994 14:103

	So isn't JoAnne
46.12SUBPAC::JJENSENJojo the Fishing WidowFri Nov 18 1994 14:521
Witty, whittley, or made up/fictional?
46.13HAAG::HAAGRode hard. Put up wet.Fri Nov 18 1994 17:499
Note 46.4 by GRANPA::MWANNEMACHER 
    
    >Actually this happened yesterday.  Media is saying that Rush Limbuagh
    >had an influence on the guy who shot up the Whitehouse.
    
    this is typical of how the liberal media thinks in its attempt to shape
    the minds of the american brain dead. the reality is that slick had
    more influence on the guy shooting up the WH than anyone. by a long
    shot too.
46.14POBOX::BATTISThat's why the ladys a trampFri Nov 18 1994 18:237
    
    .13
    
    Speaking of long shots gene, did you bag any pickups while hunting
    the wily and elusive wapiti last week??
    
    Mark
46.15HAAG::HAAGRode hard. Put up wet.Fri Nov 18 1994 19:316
Note 46.14 by POBOX::BATTIS
    
    >Speaking of long shots gene, did you bag any pickups while hunting
    >the wily and elusive wapiti last week??
    
    do try to keep up. i had to cancel the wapiti hunt.
46.16GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERFri Nov 18 1994 19:354
    
    
    Gene, did you see my magnificant write up of what you were doing on
    your trip in the old box? :')
46.17HAAG::HAAGRode hard. Put up wet.Fri Nov 18 1994 20:577
Note 46.16 by GRANPA::MWANNEMACHER 
    
    >Gene, did you see my magnificant write up of what you were doing on
    >your trip in the old box? :')
    
    no. and since the "old" box ain't even around, i don't spect i ever
    will.
46.18TROOA::COLLINSNot Phil, not Tom, not Joan...Fri Nov 18 1994 21:007
    
    .17
    
    Well, Haag, if you *want* to, the old 'Box *can* be accessed at
    
    ALPHAZ::OLD_SOAPBOX
    
46.19(8-0NEMAIL::SCOTTKMy multiple extremities: O:) >:> :P +:)Fri Nov 18 1994 21:051
    There is no such thing as a Old Soapbox Fart....... :)
46.20HAAG::HAAGRode hard. Put up wet.Fri Nov 18 1994 21:121
    people in hell want ice water to boys.
46.21NEMAIL::SCOTTKMy multiple extremities: O:) >:> :P +:)Fri Nov 18 1994 21:197
    Two questions:
    
    Do you know how to smile, partner.
    
    Do you know how to smile. :-)
    
    
46.22HAAG::HAAGRode hard. Put up wet.Sat Nov 19 1994 18:095
    
    >>Do you know how to smile, partner.
    
    
    those that matter don't have to ask.
46.23USAT02::WARRENFELTZRMon Nov 21 1994 12:441
    Gene's less than agreeable after what happened on his hunt...
46.24GAVEL::JANDROWAu naturelle..back 2 basicsFri Dec 16 1994 19:566
    
    
    it is true that if you eat enough hershy kisses you will develope a
    strange addiction to aluminum foil
    
    
46.25JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeFri Dec 16 1994 19:584
    .24
    
    Does that also mean if you eat aluminum foil you'll get a strange
    addition to baked potatoes?
46.26JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeFri Dec 16 1994 19:591
    And if you eat baked potatoes you'll get a strange addiction to skin.
46.278^)POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of PerditionFri Dec 16 1994 20:032
    
    <-- that's me, ooh-er
46.28BIGQ::MARCHANDFri Dec 16 1994 20:042
    
        I don't think any of that will happen, you'll just get fat!!!!
46.29Wait'll tomorrow!!!SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebras should be seen and not herdFri Dec 16 1994 20:043
    
    If you go into the North End, you have to eat pasta!!
    
46.30GAVEL::JANDROWAu naturelle..back 2 basicsMon Dec 19 1994 10:405
    
    
    but we didn't eat no pasta...just everything else...or so it seemed...
    
    
46.31Momma don't let your kids grow up to eat potatoes...BIGQ::SILVANobody wants a Charlie in the Box!Mon Dec 19 1994 13:175


	Nancy..... I think you might have discovered why Jeffery Dahmer was a
cannable......
46.32:-)CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantMon Dec 19 1994 13:283
    Cannibal, but you knew that....
    
    
46.33SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebras should be seen and not herdMon Dec 19 1994 16:1118
    
    RE: .30
    
    >but we didn't eat no pasta...just everything else...or so it seemed...
    
     My dear raq....
    
    You being a lady, would include the word "we", but the truth be told,
    you behaved yourself properly...
    
     On the other hand, it did seem as if some of "us" tried to eat
    everything and anything in sight!! :) :)
    
      My only excuse is that I do it seldom, and have the wherewithal to
    alleviate the excess...
    
    :)
    
46.34then again, if i could have made up my mind...GAVEL::JANDROWAu naturelle..back 2 basicsMon Dec 19 1994 16:496
    
    
    the wherewhatal?????
    
    
    
46.35SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebras should be seen and not herdMon Dec 19 1994 17:038
    
    
    <-------------
    
     My aerobics classes, which I HAVE to teach... so there's no excuse!!!
    
     :)
    
46.36SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebras should be seen and not herdMon Dec 19 1994 17:0411
    
    RE: .34
    
    
    >then again, if i could have made up my mind...
    
     You did spend a bit of time trying to do that... didn't you!
     
     But just think of all the calories you expended going up and down the
    great hall so many times!!! (and me following you the whole way! :)
    
46.37then again, maybe i had an ulterior motive... :>GAVEL::JANDROWAu naturelle..back 2 basicsMon Dec 19 1994 17:304
    well, there's nothing wrong with having a stud in tow... :>
    
    
    
46.38Oh dear...SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebras should be seen and not herdMon Dec 19 1994 18:421
    
46.39TROOA::COLLINSConsultants Of SwingFri Mar 03 1995 18:315
    
    Newt Gingrich was caught smokin' dope in the men's room.
    A subsequent search of his office revealed more than an 
    ounce of high-quality hydroponically-grown doobage.
    
46.40Yep, that time....GAAS::BRAUCHERFri Mar 03 1995 18:346
    
    In a marked change of policy, Federal Reserve Board chairman Alan
    Greenspan announced "No Interest" loans.  "Let's have a party,"
    quipped the Fed chairman, donning a party hat....
    
      bb
46.41BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeFri Mar 03 1995 18:353

	Joan, they really called it doobage? 
46.42MAIL2::CRANEMon Mar 06 1995 10:194
    Digital Equip. Corp and Motorola have agreed in principle to merge. You
    will recall that Motorola purchased the Scottland facility for an
    undisclosed ammount. Late last week Digital hired Mr. Pugh (sp) from
    Motorola as V.P. of over seas manufacturing. 
46.43MAIL2::CRANEMon Mar 06 1995 10:201
    Can I do this...today is Monday???
46.44What is truth?PEKING::SULLIVANDNot gauche, just sinisterMon Mar 06 1995 10:241
    But is it untrue ?
46.45MAIL2::CRANEMon Mar 06 1995 10:331
    To soon to tell.
46.46COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon Mar 06 1995 11:451
It's always Friday in the make-up-a-fact topic.
46.47X-Files RomanceDECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Mon Mar 06 1995 18:505
For the X-Files fans in the group:

Rumor has it that in future episodes, Sculley and Skinner will be falling in
love. Moulder (sp?) and Deep Throat will also become an item.
46.48USAT05::BENSONEternal WeltanschauungMon Mar 06 1995 18:5412
    
    Friday's x-files seemed like a terrible rip-off of "The Thing".  But
    the two parter a few weeks ago (with Moulder's sister coming back and
    all that) was a real barn burner.
    
    Moulder had a funny line (for him anyway) this past week when the men
    had to go into the room and strip to inspect each other for the signs
    of the parasite on their bodies.  As Moulder began to take off his
    pants he said, "before any of you pass judgement, remember, this *is*
    the arctic".  Pretty good one.
    
    jeff
46.49OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Mon Mar 06 1995 18:561
    Mulder.  ("Moulder" is something one does in the grave.)
46.50COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertFri May 19 1995 04:39220
46.51PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Jun 02 1995 19:233
 "prescedence" is a variant.

46.52BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Fri Jun 02 1995 19:313
    
    	Similarly, can "vice prescedence" be used?
    
46.53TROOA::COLLINSSwizzle Sticks of the DamnedFri Jun 16 1995 16:273
    
    Rich and famous people are hogging all the good livers.
    
46.54TROOA::COLLINSSwizzle Sticks of the DamnedFri Jun 16 1995 16:296
    
    The moral decay of our society is in such a state that
    it leaves us no option but to return to biblical values.
    
    
     
46.55POLAR::RICHARDSONFri Jun 16 1995 16:323
    Does that mean paying taxes by pulling coins out of fish ?
    
    Oh dear.
46.56BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Fri Jun 16 1995 16:324
    
    	Undies don't stick to your butt in warm weather if you spread
    	peanut butter on your cheeks.
    
46.57TROOA::COLLINSSwizzle Sticks of the DamnedFri Jun 16 1995 16:333
    
    You all don't care about the truth.
    
46.58BIGQ::SILVADiabloFri Jun 16 1995 17:368
| <<< Note 46.56 by BUSY::SLABOUNTY "Trouble with a capital 'T'" >>>


| Undies don't stick to your butt in warm weather if you spread
| peanut butter on your cheeks.

	orrrrrrrr..... they don't stick if you don't wear them.....

46.59BIGQ::SILVADiabloFri Jun 16 1995 17:373

	re : .54    too funny...... :-)
46.60WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Jun 20 1995 10:172
    will that mean your underwear will stick to the roof of your mouth?
                                  ^^^^
46.61SNOFS2::ROBERTSONwhere there's smoke there's toastWed Jun 21 1995 12:087
    re .60
    
    that's a bit hard to swallow   8^)
    
    
    and it leaves a nasty taste in my mouth just thinking about it.
                    
46.62TROOA::COLLINSThe Seal Of DisapprovalWed Jun 21 1995 12:125
    
    Yo, Robertson...what time is it there, about 23:15?  
    
    Try to get some sleep!    ;^)
    
46.63goodnightSNOFS2::ROBERTSONwhere there's smoke there's toastWed Jun 21 1995 12:324
    yup, 22:32
    just about to hit the sack  8^)
    
    
46.64GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA memberWed Jun 21 1995 12:436
    
    Gee, this reminds me of the piece I saw in the past week about the
    reverend who has sick people rub his soiled underwear on their ailing
    parts for devine healing.  Of course he charged around $60 a pop for
    these things.......
    
46.65POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of PasshionWed Jun 21 1995 13:049
    
    >...$60 a pop...
    
    are you sure that wasn't $60 a poop 8^o?
    
    
    Sorry, I know, bathroom humour 8^(.
    
    
46.66:')GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA memberWed Jun 21 1995 13:212
    
    
46.67TROOA::COLLINSMy hovercraft is full of eels.Fri Jun 23 1995 19:233
    
    Republicans have never touched the stuff.
    
46.68NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Jun 23 1995 19:241
Republicans save themselves for marriage.
46.70CSC32::M_EVANSproud counter-culture McGovernikFri Jun 23 1995 19:441
    Republicans never vote for men who have trophy wives.
46.71GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA memberFri Jun 23 1995 19:463
    
    
    I voted for George Bush......
46.72BIGQ::SILVADiabloFri Jun 23 1995 20:063

	Mr Topaz..... it is kind ironic what note number your note ended up at.
46.74BIGQ::SILVADiabloMon Jun 26 1995 13:444

	no, mine isn't THAT high! :-)  Dems and 69..... seems from last years
elections, they screwed themselves.... 
46.75Oh, what the hell - so it's only Thursday nightMOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Fri Jun 30 1995 00:503
Green M&M's make you pregnant.
Blue M&M's make you sterile.

46.76Independence Day MUF#1MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Fri Jun 30 1995 00:575
During this upcoming 4-day weekend for us 'Murricans, the Aussies,
Brits and Canucks are going to refrain from trashing Boxland while
we do our patriotic duty in celebrating the holiday, and we won't
have to clean up any messes come Wednesday, July 5th.

46.77Independence Day MUF#2MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Fri Jun 30 1995 00:583
There won't be any 'Murrican boxers paying attention in here over the
long weekend, as we'll all be patriotically involved.

46.78Talk HardSNOFS1::DAVISMHappy Harry Hard OnFri Jun 30 1995 02:085
    Uh-huh !
    
    Well we'll try not to trash it too much !!! :*)
    
    Have a good one.
46.79TROOA::COLLINSMy hovercraft is full of eels.Fri Jun 30 1995 12:126
    
    It's a three-day weekend in Canada, but on Tuesday, the 'box is
    fair game!!
    
    :^)
    
46.80WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Jun 30 1995 12:571
    i will not have one scotch this weekend...
46.81WAHOO::LEVESQUEthe countdown is onFri Jun 30 1995 12:591
     No, you'll have several. ;-)
46.82SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotFri Jun 30 1995 13:281
    But will they be Macallan?
46.83I bet it's cutty, J&B or ChivasWAHOO::LEVESQUEthe countdown is onFri Jun 30 1995 13:421
     You think he's a single malt guy?
46.84SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotFri Jun 30 1995 13:501
    Cutty?  Bleah!
46.85WAHOO::LEVESQUEthe countdown is onFri Jun 30 1995 13:583
     Iffen he's a single malt drinker, my blasphemy will send him into
    apoplexy and he'll start hurling names like Dalwhinnie, Laphroaig,
    Glenmorangie, Bowmore and Springbank. ;-)
46.86WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Jun 30 1995 14:151
    Chivas is a favorite but i like Glenlivet just as much, hmmmmmm...
46.87SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotFri Jun 30 1995 14:231
    Chivas is barely tolerable.  Glenlivet, at least, is good scotch.
46.90WAHOO::LEVESQUEthe countdown is onFri Jun 30 1995 14:285
    >Chivas is barely tolerable.  Glenlivet, at least, is good scotch.
    
     I can't tell the difference. I've never acquired a taste for scotch.
    it all tastes just awful to me (not that I've ever tried a single malt
    but...)
46.91it's a cross to bearSMURF::WALTERSFri Jun 30 1995 14:316
    
    > it all tastes just awful to me
    
    That's what my wife said when she tried it.  To which the standard
    reply is: "And you think I'm out having fun down the pub every night...."
    
46.92Now, if you want to drop some names... :*)SPEZKO::FRASERMobius Loop; see other sideFri Jun 30 1995 14:3544
        Malt distilleries (current as of 1978)/af

        Aberfeldy               Glenallachie            Laphroaig       
        Aberlour-Glenlivet      Glenburgie-Glenlivet    Ledaig
        Ardbeg                  Glencadam               Linkwood
        Ardmore                 Glendronach             Littlemill
        Auchentoshan            Glendullan              Loch Lomond
        Auchriosk               Glen Elgin              Lochnagar
        Aultmore                Glenfarclas-Glenlivet   Lochside
        Balblair                Glenfiddich             Lomond
        Balmenach               Glen Foyle              Longmorn-Glenlivet
        Balvenie                Glengarioch             Macallan
        Banff                   Glenlassaugh            Macduff
        Ben Nevis               Glengoyne               Mannochmore
        Ben Riach-Glenlivet     Glen Grant-Glenlivet    Milburn
        Benrinnes               Glen Keith-Glenlivet    Miltonduff-Glenlivet
        Benromach-Glenlivet     Glenkinchie             Moffat
        Ben Wyvis               Glenlivet, The          Mortlach
        Bladnoch                Glenlochy               North Port
        Blair Atholl            Glenlossie              Oban
        Bowmore                 Glen Mhor               Ord
        Braes of Glenlivet      Glenmorangie            Pittyvaich-Glenlivet
        Bruichladdich           Glen Moray-Glenlivet    Port Ellen
        Bunnahabhain            Glen Rothes-Glenlivet   Pultaney
        Caol Ila                Glen Scotia             Rosebank
        Caperdonich             Glen Spey               Royal Brackla
        Cardow                  Glentauchers            St. Magdalene
        Clynelish               Glenturret              Scapa
        Coleburn                Glenugie                Speyburn
        Convalmore              Glenury-Royal           Speyside
        Cragganmore             Highland Park           Springbank
        Craigellachie           Hillside                Strathisla-Glenlivet
        Dailuaine               Imperial                Strathmill
        Dallas Dhu              Inchgower               Talisker
        Dalmore                 Inverleven              Tamdhu-Glenlivet
        Dalwhinnie              Isle of Jura            Tamnavulin-Glenlivet
        Deanston                Kinclaith               Teannich
        Dufftown-Glenlivet      Knockando               Tomatin
        Edradour                Knockdhu                Tomintoul-Glenlivet
        Fettercairn             Ladyburn                Tormore
        Glen Albyn              Lagavulin               Tullibardine
        
        

46.93CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenFri Jun 30 1995 14:422
    Glenugie - What Silva gets for being a rabble rouser and bringing the
    downfall or civilization as we know it :-).  
46.94WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Jun 30 1995 15:173
    .87 your opinion... I prefer the Salute to the 12yr. old stuff.
    
    as always with this stuff, your mileage may vary.
46.95NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Jun 30 1995 15:298
No Glen Silva?

What do Michael Jackson (the single-malt aficionado) and Michael Jackson
(the singer) have in common?



They both like 12-year-olds.
46.96DEVLPR::DKILLORANM1A - The choice of champions !Fri Jun 30 1995 15:418
    <-----
    
    Gerald ! 
    
    You a NASTY BOY ! !
    
    :-)
    Dan
46.97TROOA::COLLINSMy hovercraft is full of eels.Fri Jun 30 1995 18:013
    
    Newt has announced his bid for the Presidency.
    
46.98TROOA::COLLINSMy hovercraft is full of eels.Fri Jun 30 1995 18:013
     
    O.J. has escaped.
    
46.99CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenFri Jun 30 1995 18:021
    I'm having a good day.
46.100GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA memberFri Jun 30 1995 18:032
    
    People will SNARF no more......
46.101MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryFri Jun 30 1995 18:044
    
    I've decided to vote for the Clintons...
    
    -b
46.102MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryFri Jun 30 1995 18:095
    
    I really like the way the lady in the next cube sings while
    she's working...
    
    -b
46.103MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryFri Jun 30 1995 18:104
    
    I prefer flat-chested women.
    
    -b
46.104GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA memberFri Jun 30 1995 18:166
    
    
    Brian,
    
    
    You have one of them singers in the cube next to you too, eh? 
46.105MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryFri Jun 30 1995 18:197
    
    RE: -1
    
    Yes I do. It's lovely and all, but what I'd really like is a
    bit of Chinese water torture... :-)
    
    -b
46.106MKOTS3::JMARTINI press on toward the goalFri Jun 30 1995 18:5214
    Brian:
    
    Do you CHASE her around the office???  Let me repeat that...do you...
    
    
    
    
    CHASSSSSSSSEEEEEEEE her around the office??
    
    
    
    Does Joe CHASSSSSEEEEEE her around the office too???
    
    -Jack
46.107POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of PasshionSat Jul 01 1995 00:562
    
    The people in the cubes next to me ASK me to sing, so there 8^pPppPp!
46.108MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryThu Jul 06 1995 19:374
    
    I prefer women with smaller specialized sweat glands...
    
    -b
46.110SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Fri Aug 18 1995 17:515
    
    Glen Silva will actually listen to what Christine Kelly has to say and
    not lash out stupidly... this because he has finally subdued his
    enormous ego.
    
46.111POWDML::DOUGANFri Aug 18 1995 19:231
    .109 as opposed to a fictitional fact
46.112A tugboat ?GAAS::BRAUCHERFri Aug 18 1995 19:266
    
     Well, gee, I sit corrected then.  I bought a few (very neat)
    Victoronix genuine Swiss Army knives.  But I never saw ANY Swiss
    navy ones.
    
     bb
46.114re .112 Victorinox nnttmDRDAN::KALIKOWDIGITAL=DEC: ReClaim TheName!Mon Aug 21 1995 14:181
    
46.115POWDML::HANGGELIPetite Chambre des MauditesMon Aug 21 1995 16:556
    
    .113
    
    Yes, I've only seen them in red 8^).
    
    
46.117TROOA::COLLINSNothing wrong $100 wouldn't fix.Fri Aug 25 1995 19:253
    
    Jack Martin fired from the grassy knoll.
    
46.118DEVLPR::DKILLORANDanimalFri Aug 25 1995 19:335
    
    Jack Martin's been fired !
    
    Who'da thunk it?
    
46.119TROOA::COLLINSNothing wrong $100 wouldn't fix.Fri Aug 25 1995 19:374
    
    In the early '70s, Brian Markey hung with Democrats.  He even pretended
    to BE one, just to score with some lefty bimbo.
    
46.120SMURF::WALTERSFri Aug 25 1995 19:382
    
    Brian Markey hung?  I don't believe it.
46.121PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Aug 25 1995 19:409
    
>>    In the early '70s, Brian Markey hung with Democrats.  He even pretended
>>    to BE one, just to score with some lefty bimbo.

    with sensible shoes!

    (she said, cathartically)
    

46.122TROOA::COLLINSNothing wrong $100 wouldn't fix.Fri Aug 25 1995 19:4510
    
    ...and *that* lefty bimbo was...
    
    
    Janet Reno.
    
    And now you know...
    
    ...the rrrrrrrrest of the storrrrry.
    
46.123DEVLPR::DKILLORANDanimalFri Aug 25 1995 19:475
    
    <------------
    
    Where's the "gak" note ?
    
46.124NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Aug 25 1995 19:493
>    with sensible shoes!

Birkenstocks.
46.125POWDML::HANGGELIPetite Chambre des MauditesFri Aug 25 1995 19:5310
    
    My sister wears those 8^p.
    
    In the winter, she wears them with socks.
    
    
    Honestly, I don't know what happened to her.  It's hard to believe
    we're from the same family 8^).
    
    
46.126WAHOO::LEVESQUEthe heat is onFri Aug 25 1995 19:531
    sounds like a real sex kitten. ;-)
46.127TROOA::COLLINSNothing wrong $100 wouldn't fix.Fri Aug 25 1995 19:535
    
    .125
    
    Birkensocks?
    
46.128MPGS::MARKEYLook at the BONES!Fri Aug 25 1995 19:558
    
    in the early 70s, i was 11 or 12. if i hung with democrats, it
    was purely because they: 1) could pitch and/or hit or 2) had
    pictures of naked women. at the time, i had yet to hang with
    an actual naken woman, although if given the opportunity, i
    doubt politics would have been an issue... :-)
    
    -b
46.129TROOA::COLLINSNothing wrong $100 wouldn't fix.Fri Aug 25 1995 20:013
    
    Did I say "70s"?  I meant "80s".   ;^)
    
46.130NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Aug 25 1995 20:012
Brian, I doubt if you'll ever hang with a "naken" woman.  Women are seldom
executed by hanging.
46.131POWDML::HANGGELIPetite Chambre des MauditesFri Aug 25 1995 20:024
    
    Doctah my love, the best way to describe my sister is "crunchy".
    
    
46.132CSC32::M_EVANSnothing's going to bring him backFri Aug 25 1995 20:135
    Hey,
    
    Some of us resemble that remark!
    
    
46.133POWDML::HANGGELIPetite Chambre des MauditesFri Aug 25 1995 20:188
    
    Oh, I love my sister.  I'm just not sure where her crunch came from,
    being that we were brought up in the very same way.
    
    Probably the last word you'd think of in connection with me would be
    "crunchy".
    
    
46.134SMURF::BINDERNight's candles are burnt out.Fri Aug 25 1995 20:202
    Oh, definitely the very last word I'd think of in connection with you
    is "crunchy."  Unless I were named Grendel.
46.135PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Aug 25 1995 20:2210
    
>>    Probably the last word you'd think of in connection with me would be
>>    "crunchy".

    oh now, now, if you mean earthy-crunchy, i do seem to recall someone
    puttering around in her little vegetable garden this summer.  what
    of that... hmmmmm?
    
    

46.136MPGS::MARKEYLook at the BONES!Fri Aug 25 1995 20:228
    
    didja ever get most/some way through a thread in this conference
    and have _no_bloody_idea_ what anyone is talking about? i'd
    say the "crunchy" thing is an example. while i surely understand
    mz. deb's disassociation with crunchiness, i also wonder
    exactly what it is...

    -b
46.137TROOA::COLLINSNothing wrong $100 wouldn't fix.Fri Aug 25 1995 20:243
    
    The last word you'd think of in association with me is "zwinglian".
    
46.138SMURF::BINDERNight's candles are burnt out.Fri Aug 25 1995 20:243
    Brian, "crunchy" refers to the popular association of hippies, tree-
    huggers, and other similar fringe groups with natural foods, such as
    granola, which is crunchy.
46.139PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Aug 25 1995 20:252
  .137  ;> you are very funny today, oh yes.
46.140(at least i think i did... :>:>)GAVEL::JANDROWGreen-Eyed Lady...Fri Aug 25 1995 20:266
    
    
    hey!!!  i actually got that 'grendal' thing!!!!
    
    
    
46.141CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenFri Aug 25 1995 20:283
    B'stocks = Jesus cleats
    Tevas = Synthetic Jesus Cleats suitable for wearing in the H2O, like I
    do.
46.142MPGS::MARKEYLook at the BONES!Fri Aug 25 1995 20:294
    
    thank you mr. binder... i feel so.... hip now.
    
    -b
46.143POWDML::HANGGELIPetite Chambre des MauditesFri Aug 25 1995 21:065
    
    Di, have you ever seen those old commercials that show a woman doing
    her housework all dressed up and wearing pearls and pumps?  That's how
    I do my vegetable gardening 8^).
    
46.144OUTSRC::HEISERwatchman on the wallFri Aug 25 1995 21:451
    Slick Willy is a **GREAT** President!
46.145SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Fri Aug 25 1995 23:292
    
    	{barf}
46.146CSOA1::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Aug 28 1995 12:493
    re: .144
    
    That's even a stretch for this topic, Mike.
46.147DEVLPR::DKILLORANDanimalWed Aug 30 1995 13:0711
    
    It ain't Friday, but what the H*!!.....
    
    Lucky Jack DelBalso is really......
    
    
    ******************
    *  Jerry Garcia  *
    ******************
    
    The man LIVES!
46.148MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Wed Aug 30 1995 13:384
 . . . with a haircut, less hair to begin with, several fewer pounds,
much better health, and fewer bad habits.
   And, better taste in music.

46.150BIGQ::SILVADiabloWed Aug 30 1995 13:533

	a person with their health is a very lucky person indeed!
46.151POLAR::RICHARDSONI have blurred areasWed Aug 30 1995 14:151
    God, Jack is lucky!
46.152TROOA::COLLINSNothing wrong $100 wouldn't fix.Wed Aug 30 1995 14:173
    
    <---- and that ain't no made-up fact!!
    
46.153BIGQ::SILVADiabloWed Aug 30 1995 14:471
<----well.... it ISN'T Friday joan.....
46.154TROOA::COLLINSNothing wrong $100 wouldn't fix.Wed Aug 30 1995 14:533
    
    It's ALWAYS Friday in Topic 46.   ;^)
    
46.155BIGQ::SILVADiabloWed Aug 30 1995 14:551
	did you just make that up?
46.156TROOA::COLLINSNothing wrong $100 wouldn't fix.Wed Aug 30 1995 14:553
    
    It's hard to say...
    
46.157BIGQ::SILVADiabloWed Aug 30 1995 14:571
	how about to type?
46.158TROOA::COLLINSNothing wrong $100 wouldn't fix.Wed Aug 30 1995 15:003
    
    ...possibly...
    
46.159TROOA::COLLINSCyberian PuppyFri Oct 13 1995 12:433
    
    Certain ethnic groups are hogging all the money.
    
46.160ROWLET::AINSLEYLess than 150kts is TOO slow!Fri Oct 13 1995 12:515
    re: .159
    
    You mean certain ethnic groups have all the BUCKs:-)
    
    Bob
46.161SPEZKO::FRASERMobius Loop; see other sideFri Oct 13 1995 12:592
        Not bad, Robert!! ;*)
        
46.162BIGQ::SILVADiabloFri Oct 13 1995 12:593

	What's Buck got to do with this?
46.163SPSEG::COVINGTONand the situation is excellent.Fri Oct 13 1995 14:582
    16% of Perot voters believe "if dolphins were really smart, they could
    get out of those nets."
46.164TROOA::COLLINSCyberian PuppyFri Oct 13 1995 15:005
    
    HAR!
    
    :^)
    
46.165SPSEG::COVINGTONand the situation is excellent.Fri Oct 13 1995 15:071
    Actually, that's not a made up fact. Sad, isn't it?
46.167MKOTS3::JMARTINI press on toward the goalFri Oct 13 1995 17:271
    Good one!
46.168OUTSRC::HEISERwatchman on the wallFri Oct 13 1995 21:181
    sure glad I have my hat on facing forward!
46.169DRDAN::KALIKOWDIGITAL=DEC: ReClaim TheName&amp;Glory!Sat Oct 14 1995 22:524
    Tnx, anything that can add to the ridicule of those whose heads are
    180 degreez outta phase wiv their hats is fine with me.  I wonder what
    brainless wingnut came up with that fad anyhow.  Any info??  Tnx,
    |-{:-)
46.170TROOA::COLLINSCyberian PuppyMon Oct 16 1995 15:176
    
    Size isn't important.
    
    
    ;^)
    
46.171WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Oct 17 1995 09:212
    and most guys look for women with a personality and a good sense of
    humor
46.172POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Tue Oct 17 1995 15:211
    I've fallen and I can't get up!
46.173BIGQ::SILVADiabloTue Oct 17 1995 15:2310

	There is a way to put the toilet paper on the roll so the cats will not
be able to take it off.

	This is a lie! My cats figured out how to do this in BOTH
directions!!!! 



46.174POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of OhOhOh/OwOwOwTue Oct 17 1995 16:035
    
    Squoosh the roll as flat as you can.  It'll be more difficult for you
    to get the paper off, but pretty much impossible for them.
    
    
46.175WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Oct 17 1995 17:0932
    squoosh the cat
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
     just kidding, sheesh..............
46.176BUSY::SLABOUNTYPeter Horton Hears a WhoTue Oct 17 1995 17:1414
    
    	How do you make a cat sound like a dog?
    
    		Douse it with gasoline, then drop a lit match on it.
    
    		WOOF!!
    
    	How do you make a dog sound like a cat?
    
    		Freeze it for a couple days, then cut it in half with a
    		circular saw.
    
    		MMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW!!
    
46.177BIGQ::SILVADiabloTue Oct 17 1995 17:147

	Deb, we keep the bathroom door closed now..... it's easier than trying
to outsmart them. :-)


Glen
46.178POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of OhOhOh/OwOwOwTue Oct 17 1995 17:174
    
    Good move, Glen, because you can NEVER outsmart a cat 8^).
    
    
46.179BIGQ::SILVADiabloTue Oct 17 1995 17:2812

	I know, Deb.... I know..... when I left for volleyball Sunday I had
just shut off the dishwasher. It's the portable kind. I figured I would put
them away when I got home. When I got back, all the dishes were put away, and
the dishwasher was moved back into its normal spot. I thought wow.... what nice 
cats. Then my roomate told me he did it. That took a while to believe, as I 
thought the cats would figure out how to do it long before he would! 



Glen
46.180DECLNE::REESEToreDown,I'mAlmostLevelW/theGroundTue Oct 17 1995 21:5010
    What is it with cats and tissue-like paper products?  My best
    friend has 2 cats.  They are always stealing her Kleenex; I've sat
    and watched them open her closed purse to get at her tissues.  My
    dogs are too smart for their own good, but they've never mastered
    opening the clasp on my purse to get at its contents.
    
    Alas, her cats have taught my poodles how to open cupboard doors, so
    now my 4 fuzz-butts get into everything under the kitchen and bathroom
    sinks :-(
    
46.181BIGQ::SILVADiabloWed Oct 18 1995 12:2510
	Cats are the real rulers of the world. They allow is to feed them,
allow us to bathe them (on occasion), allow us to work and support them while
they spend the day sleeping, allow us to clean up the hairs they leave behind 
at will, allow us to change their litterbox, allow us to hear something crash
and run out to see them with those cute little faces on so they don't get
punished, and on and on..... they rule, we just think we do. 


Glen
46.182CLYDE::KOWALEWICZ_Mred roads...Wed Oct 18 1995 15:226
re: .172 

   I thought it was I've fallen and I can't reach my beer!

:-)
kb
46.183they gotta investigate EVERYTHING!CSEXP2::ANDREWSI'm the NRAWed Oct 18 1995 19:145
    Re cats.
    
    My personal theory is: If cats had thumbs, there'd be no mysteries
    left, they would have figured everything out by now and rule the world.
    
46.185SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Wed Oct 18 1995 19:219
    
    Di!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    "wouldn't only"?????????????
    
    
    mz_deb!!!!!!!!   MZ_DEB!!!!!!!!!!
    
46.186PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Oct 18 1995 19:246
    
>>    "wouldn't only"?????????????

	oh sorry - i type "wouldn't help" and then changed
	my mind.  thanks.

46.187POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of OhOhOh/OwOwOwWed Oct 18 1995 19:254
    
    Sorry, Andy, I'm not speaking to her after that slanderous comment 8^).
    
    
46.184PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Oct 18 1995 19:267
    Re cats.
    
    My personal theory is: Cats, having brains the size of walnuts, can't
    figure out very much, and having thumbs would only make them look
    totally bizarre.

46.188POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Wed Oct 18 1995 19:322
    So, how big is a cat brain then? Grapefruit sized? Golf ball sized? The
    size of a common cyst? What?
46.189SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Wed Oct 18 1995 19:343
    
    Probably slightly larger than the brain of a typical T-Rex...
    
46.190SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Wed Oct 18 1995 19:344
    
    
    No fair Di!!!!!!!!!!
    
46.191DRDAN::KALIKOWDIGITAL=DEC: ReClaim TheName&amp;Glory!Wed Oct 18 1995 23:318
     Our Ladye Di, a revisionista?  Shame.  'Tis one fing to revise until
    yer done & it's right, but as soon as someone catches ya, well common
     decency in 'BoxCulcha is to let it stand & stink... I think... :-)
    
    Anyhow, SSSSHHHHHHAAAAAAYYYYYYMMMMMEEEE on ya.
    
    |-{:-)
    
46.192Talk HardSNOFS1::DAVISMHappy Harry Hard OnThu Oct 19 1995 01:033
    Re. Cats.
    
    They're also great moving targets.
46.193DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Thu Oct 19 1995 13:114
    
    
    	Was that supposed to be funny?
    
46.194BUSY::SLABOUNTYYank my doodle, it's a dandy.Thu Oct 19 1995 13:143
    
    	Maybe he was making up a fact, a day early.
    
46.195PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Oct 19 1995 13:1811
>>   <<< Note 46.191 by DRDAN::KALIKOW "DIGITAL=DEC: ReClaim TheName&Glory!" >>>
>>    yer done & it's right, but as soon as someone catches ya, well common
>>     decency in 'BoxCulcha is to let it stand & stink... I think... :-)

	{gasp}
	that's news to me, dan'l.  since i already acknowledged the
	mistake and it has been immortalized, i thought it mattered not.
	fixing it just makes it easier for newcomers to read the note.

	sorry if that flies in the face of tradition.
	but not very.  remind me to pinch you later. ;>
46.196WAHOO::LEVESQUEshifting paradigms without a clutchThu Oct 19 1995 13:393
    >remind me to pinch you later. ;>
    
     It's becoming a veritable refrain. :-)
46.197DRDAN::KALIKOWDIGITAL=DEC: ReClaim TheName&amp;Glory!Thu Oct 19 1995 13:534
    As long as it's verifiable.  
    
    I can't wait!!!
    
46.198SPEZKO::FRASERMobius Loop; see other sideThu Oct 19 1995 13:554
        Seems the Post Office has just cancelled a new line of stamps
        depicting Johnnie Cochran and other Dream Team members - the
        public couldn't decide which side of the stamp to spit on...
        
46.199MPGS::MARKEYShroeder was a scatterbrainThu Oct 19 1995 13:565
    
    Is it just me, or does anyone else find it ironic that
    Johnnie Cochran is suing a fertilizer company?
    
    -b
46.200CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend, will you be ready?Thu Oct 19 1995 13:575



 Make up a SNARF Thursday!
46.201ACISS1::BATTISLife is not a dress rehearsalThu Oct 19 1995 18:172
    
    It's just you _b.
46.202BIGQ::SILVADiabloThu Oct 19 1995 18:501
<----- it's -b, NOT _b!!!!!
46.203ACISS1::BATTISLife is not a dress rehearsalThu Oct 19 1995 19:332
    
    <--- so sue me
46.204BIGQ::SILVADiabloThu Oct 19 1995 19:591
you're now sue....
46.205POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Thu Oct 19 1995 20:042
    Markie Sue, Markie Sue
    Markie Markie Markie Markie Markie Sue! 
46.206GIDDAY::BURTDPD (tm)Thu Oct 19 1995 22:568
The French government is going to set aside funds to aid any children 
adversely affected by the current tests.  There is a 20 year limit to the 
availability of these funds.  Once this time limit expires, the tradition will 
be continues by the Japanese, who will make funds available to whales who have 
been adversely affected by being eaten.


\C
46.207Talk HardSNOFS1::DAVISMex-wife testerThu Oct 19 1995 23:585
    re .193
    
    Hey, don't take it to heart my lovely. I didn't mean it.
    
    Anyway, you can only get 1 in 4.... damn things move too fast :*)
46.209TROOA::COLLINSCyberian PuppyFri Oct 20 1995 12:143
    
    Boris Yeltsin has been sober.
    
46.210SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Fri Oct 20 1995 12:545
    
    re: .208
    
    And hasn't groped anyone besides his wife for a week!!!
    
46.211BUSY::SLABOUNTYCareer Opportunity Week at DECFri Oct 20 1995 13:195
    
    	Actually, he hasn't groped anyone BESIDE his wife for a week.
    
    	There's a big difference.
    
46.213OUTSRC::HEISERwatchman on the wallFri Oct 20 1995 14:571
    Halloween is really a church holiday.
46.214CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenFri Oct 20 1995 15:322
    Doing anything other than hiding under your bed in fear of the evil
    that walks the Earth on Halloween will guarantee you a spot in Hades.  
46.215DASHER::RALSTONscrewiti'mgoinhome..Fri Oct 20 1995 15:381
    Holloween is a satanic holiday.
46.216OUTSRC::HEISERwatchman on the wallFri Oct 20 1995 15:441
    Christians hide under their bed in fear of evil on Halloween.
46.217TROOA::COLLINSCyberian PaganismFri Oct 20 1995 18:065
    
    The most abundant substance in the world is...
    
    ...kittens.
    
46.218DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Fri Oct 20 1995 18:574
    
    
    	Not quite so far fetched.........
    
46.219BIGQ::SILVADiabloFri Oct 20 1995 20:555
| <<< Note 46.216 by OUTSRC::HEISER "watchman on the wall" >>>

| Christians hide under their bed in fear of evil on Halloween.

	Some Christians have too much time on their hands.....
46.220not enough hours in a dayOUTSRC::HEISERwatchman on the wallFri Oct 20 1995 22:083
    re: -1
    
    I wish I had more time.
46.221BIGQ::SILVADiabloSun Oct 22 1995 19:471
<---that would be too damn scary
46.222POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Tootsie PopsMon Oct 23 1995 01:113
    
    Prayer adds hours to your day, so I've heard.
    
46.223POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Mon Oct 23 1995 01:281
    <--- That was a good headache snarf.
46.224Talk hard\SNOFS1::DAVISMMarty the KidMon Oct 23 1995 01:343
    
    Kindly refrain from using the word headache and could you possibly talk
    a little quieter ?? 
46.225SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Mon Oct 23 1995 13:479
    
    re: .222
    
    >Prayer adds hours to your day, so I've heard.
    
    So mz_deb...
    
    Did you pray that the Motrin would work????
    
46.22657784::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Tootsie PopsMon Oct 23 1995 16:364
    
    I shoulda prayed this weekend to make it last longer 8^).
    
    
46.22719647::MR_TOPAZMon Oct 23 1995 16:374
       
       Next weekend will be longer.
       
       I promise.
46.228BUSY::SLABOUNTYGood Heavens,Cmndr,what DID you doMon Oct 23 1995 16:395
    
    	How much longer [he asks innocently]?
    
    	Maybe an hour or so?
    
46.229BIGQ::SILVADiabloMon Oct 23 1995 17:058

	I wish we could just leave the damn clocks alone. Keep them the way
they are now, and stop setting them back, ahead, back, ahead..... I hate
driving at night, and now it will happen every stinkin day! 


Glen
46.230CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenMon Oct 23 1995 17:062
    Look on the bright side Glen, it starts getting lighter earlier on or
    about 12/22 or so.  
46.231BIGQ::SILVADiabloMon Oct 23 1995 17:084

	It wouldn't have to get lighter earlier if we didn't change the stinkin
clocks!!!!!
46.232WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Oct 23 1995 17:101
    just think, around 12/22 it's getting colder than a witch's *^%...
46.233BUSY::SLABOUNTYGot into a war with reality ...Mon Oct 23 1995 17:125
    
    	RE: .231
    
    	Ummm, I think it would get lighter earlier anyways.
    
46.234MKOTS3::JMARTINI press on toward the goalMon Oct 23 1995 18:086
    Glen obviously doesn't care that our children have to wait at the bus
    stop in the dark.
    
    Glen doesn't really care for children.
    
    
46.235POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Tootsie PopsMon Oct 23 1995 18:118
    
    The candy companies lobbied the government to set the 'fall back' date
    just in time for kids to be able to trick-or-treat in the daylight on
    Halloween.
    
    
    
    
46.236BUSY::SLABOUNTYGreat baby! Delicious!!Mon Oct 23 1995 18:154
    
    	Jack?  When we set the clocks back, it will be darker in the
    	morning.
    
46.237MKOTS1::BUTLERCall me Mr. Coffee!Mon Oct 23 1995 18:3411
    Jack, Does it stay darker longer in your town New Hampshire?  In 12 years
    that I have had kids in school neither has had to wait in the dark for a
    school bus yet.  If they stay after school for a function, they at times
    have come home in the dark.
    
    Where did ya get the notion that Glen doesn't care for children?  I
    have had conversations with him about his nieces and nephews and have
    watched him around kids.  It has been my observation that he really enjoys
    them.
    
    don
46.2381973-74 or soEVMS::MORONEYDANGER Do Not Walk on CeilingMon Oct 23 1995 18:393
The "kids waiting for the school bus in the dark" (I was one of them) happened
one year during the "Energy Crisis", when the US stayed on daylight savings
time year-round.
46.239Uphill.... both ways....SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Mon Oct 23 1995 18:404
    
    re: "kids waiting for the school bus in the dark"
    
    
46.241ACISS1::BATTISLife is not a dress rehearsalMon Oct 23 1995 19:076
    
    
    << Well, I invited Glen over my house, for a barbeque
    
    Let me guess jack, he showed up in a hot pink air balloon????
    And, you're still ticked off.
46.243MKOTS3::JMARTINI press on toward the goalMon Oct 23 1995 19:081
    Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.........
46.244POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Tootsie PopsMon Oct 23 1995 19:223
    
    He probably did the Body_Dance.
    
46.245TROOA::COLLINSCyberian PaganismMon Oct 23 1995 19:223
    
    Maybe Jack's kids tried to convert Glen?
    
46.246ACISS1::BATTISLife is not a dress rehearsalMon Oct 23 1995 19:232
    
    <--- oh no, not the _Body_Dance_??? No wonder he was ticked off!
46.249BUSY::SLABOUNTYch-ch-ch-ch-ha-ha-ha-haMon Oct 23 1995 19:325
    
    	NOW this is getting good.
    
    	I'll put $20 on Glen.
    
46.250MPGS::MARKEYFluffy nutterMon Oct 23 1995 19:367
    
    I detect a distinct lack of valued differences here! :-)
    
    I really don't want to have to spank you both and send you
    to your rooms!
    
    -b
46.251POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Tootsie PopsMon Oct 23 1995 19:393
    
    Oh, yes you do, you pre-vert 8^).
    
46.252POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Mon Oct 23 1995 19:391
    One of them just might like that!
46.253ACISS1::BATTISLife is not a dress rehearsalMon Oct 23 1995 19:392
    
    mz_debra, will gladly volunteer for spanking duty.
46.254POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Tootsie PopsMon Oct 23 1995 19:404
    
    Thank goodness for that comma.
    
    
46.255BIGQ::SILVADiabloMon Oct 23 1995 19:436
| <<< Note 46.250 by MPGS::MARKEY "Fluffy nutter" >>>


| I really don't want to have to spank you both and send you to your rooms!

	My plan has almost worked fully...... push him a little further....:-)
46.256MKOTS1::BUTLERCall me Mr. Coffee!Mon Oct 23 1995 19:547
    Jack,
    
    Define shabbily.
    
    How did your kids treat Glen?
    
    Don
46.257PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Oct 23 1995 20:032
  .256 please see the note title, even though it's not Friday.
46.258MKOTS3::JMARTINI press on toward the goalMon Oct 23 1995 20:084
    Don:
    
    Forget it man!  Glen never came over for a barbeque.  Glen is a great
    guy.  Forget it before you really get me in trouble!!!!!!!!
46.259SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Mon Oct 23 1995 20:118
    
    re: .257
    
    Thanks Di...
    
    
    Glen Silva thinks "harsh" has no relation to "pissed"...
    
46.260BIGQ::SILVADiabloMon Oct 23 1995 20:156
| <<< Note 46.256 by MKOTS1::BUTLER "Call me Mr. Coffee!" >>>


| How did your kids treat Glen?

	I never met his kids
46.261POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Mon Oct 23 1995 20:191
    They were probably dressed shabbily then.
46.262BIGQ::SILVADiabloMon Oct 23 1995 20:1911
| <<< Note 46.259 by SOLVIT::KRAWIECKI "Been complimented by a toady lately?" >>>


| Glen Silva thinks "harsh" has no relation to "pissed"...

	Harsh, in this case, is about how the words sounded. Pissed, which I
mentioned, was the reason behind the words I spoke towrds Jack. I don't know
your reasons. Both appeared harsh, I went one step further with the why.



46.263And round.. and round... and round...SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Mon Oct 23 1995 20:202
    
    
46.264\MKOTS3::JMARTINI press on toward the goalMon Oct 23 1995 20:202
    All right...let's get on to other things.  My note could have been
    misconscrewed and I apologize to everybody for it!
46.265TROOA::COLLINSCyberian PaganismMon Oct 23 1995 20:213
    
    THAT'S IT!!!   You're both FIRED!  Clean out your desks!
    
46.266BIGQ::SILVADiabloMon Oct 23 1995 20:231
<---fried would be a much better word.... :-)
46.267TROOA::COLLINSCyberian PaganismMon Oct 23 1995 20:243
    
    Not "baked"?
    
46.268BIGQ::SILVADiabloMon Oct 23 1995 20:251
<---that would work, too
46.269ACISS1::BATTISLife is not a dress rehearsalTue Oct 24 1995 12:232
    
    broiled, with a touch of lemon juice, and salt and pepper work wonders.
46.270MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Mon Oct 30 1995 19:3021
573.182>    it requires two people working at least 60
573.182>    to 80 hours a week to pay the mortgage on a modest home.

Is that 60 to 80 hours total or apiece?

Why is this myth perpetuated?

Yes. I understand that two wage earners with pricey lifestyles/hobbies/cars
and perhaps a few kids to raise may not be able to afford a house that they 
might like to be able to.

But a modest home (2-3 bedrooms, nothing fancy, in decent shape) in most
parts of the country (possibly excepting major metro areas or most of
California) doesn't cost so much that it can't be afforded on a single
middle class income, provided that enough has been set aside for a modest
down payment (many banks are writing mortgages at 95% these days in
New England), and providing that one's existing expenses and habits
are within reason.

There are plenty of people who support a home, and sometimes a small family,
on a single income without a second job. It's not a physical impossibility.
46.271MFII::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Oct 30 1995 19:331
   .270  it helps if you like Blue Nun.
46.272BIGQ::SILVADiabloMon Oct 30 1995 19:371
<---blue nun....yum
46.273POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerMon Oct 30 1995 19:383
    
    
    Bluuuuuuuuurgh!
46.274MROA::YANNEKISMon Oct 30 1995 19:4024
    
>> 573.182>    it requires two people working at least 60
>> 573.182>    to 80 hours a week to pay the mortgage on a modest home.
>>
>> Is that 60 to 80 hours total or apiece?
>> 
>> Why is this myth perpetuated?
>>     ....
>>     ....
>> There are plenty of people who support a home, and sometimes a small family,
>> on a single income without a second job. It's not a physical impossibility.

    It's certainly possibly but it is harder and it's simple math.  40
    years ago the single wage earner (usually the male) earning a median
    wage assured his family an income that was median for the whole country
    (the vast majority of families had only one income).  Today for a
    single wage earner to ensure their fmaily a middle class life style
    they need to earn 1.5(?) times the median wage because so many more
    homes have two incomes.  There is no myth to that change in dynamic.
    
    Greg
    
    
                                                      
46.275MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Mon Oct 30 1995 19:445
What is the median wage currently?

Are you saying that there are not people earning less than 1.5x that figure
who do not maintain ownership of a house? Even with a small family (1 or
2 children at most)?
46.276MROA::YANNEKISMon Oct 30 1995 20:0610
    
> Are you saying that there are not people earning less than 1.5x that figure
> who do not maintain ownership of a house? Even with a small family (1 or
> 2 children at most)?
    
    I did not say there are not any ... I said it is harder ON AVERAGE
    because there are many more two income famalies.  Do you doubt it is
    harder on average?
    
    Greg 
46.277Anecdote from a one-income family.CSC32::J_OPPELTWanna see my scar?Mon Oct 30 1995 23:0828
                      <<< Note 46.276 by MROA::YANNEKIS >>>

>    I did not say there are not any ... I said it is harder ON AVERAGE
>    because there are many more two income famalies.  Do you doubt it is
>    harder on average?
    
    	I am one such example.  
    
    	I make what most of you make.
    
    	I have 4 kids.  We pay a mortgage.
    
    	What has changed is the style of living, not the relative
    	costs.  Take a look in the greeting card racks in gift shops
    	and such.  They have cards (actually little booklets) that
    	tell basic info about life in the USA in your birth year.
    	You'll see that the costs of a house back then was three
    	to four times the average salary.  The same generally holds
    	today.
    
    	What's different is that we need more to keep up our newer
    	standard of living.  Now we need two cars.  And a separate
    	bedroom for each kid.  And several TVs.  And a VCR for each
    	TV.  And we go out to dinner more often.  
    
    	When you have two wage earners with kids, practically half
    	of the second income goes to day-care.  No wonder it seems
    	like we have to work harder just to keep up!
46.278It's the fiat money system.DPDMAI::GUINEO::MOOREHEY! All you mimes be quiet!Tue Oct 31 1995 16:074
    <--- WRONG. What HAS changed is the relative value of "money" in
         relation to the products it will purchase.
    
         Didn't they teach you anything about Keynes in college ?
46.279RUSURE::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Tue Oct 31 1995 17:5019
    Re .278:
    
    > <--- WRONG. What HAS changed is the relative value of "money" in
    >     relation to the products it will purchase.

    Actually, a good part of the change in price of the house is not the
    change in value of money, but what goes into a house.  On average,
    today's houses have more real costs due to plumbing, electricity,
    appliances, and so on than houses used to have.  Building codes may
    enhance safety by requiring railings, certain types of materials,
    licensed contractors/plumbers/electricians/etc., but each of those adds
    to the cost of the building.
    
    
    				-- edp
    
    
Public key fingerprint:  8e ad 63 61 ba 0c 26 86  32 0a 7d 28 db e7 6f 75
To find PGP, read note 2688.4 in Humane::IBMPC_Shareware.
46.280DASHER::RALSTONscrewiti'mgoinhome..Tue Oct 31 1995 18:106
    >What's different is that we need more to keep up our newer
    >standard of living.  Now we need two cars.  And a separate
    >bedroom for each kid.  And several TVs.  And a VCR for each
    >TV.  And we go out to dinner more often.
    
    Am I to understand that this is suppose to be bad?
46.281SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Tue Oct 31 1995 18:116
    
    
    It is if you can't live within your means.. or are trying to keep up
    with the Jones.. or if you have to mortage your life to satisfy the
    material god...
    
46.282DASHER::RALSTONscrewiti'mgoinhome..Tue Oct 31 1995 18:473
    >It is if you can't live within your means..
    
    So then it isn't generally bad?
46.283CSC32::J_OPPELTWanna see my scar?Wed Nov 01 1995 02:289
          <<< Note 46.280 by DASHER::RALSTON "screwiti'mgoinhome.." >>>

>    Am I to understand that this is suppose to be bad?
    
    	The discussion focused on the PROBLEM of needing two incomes.
    	If you see the need for two incomes as a problem, then the
    	referenced items might be bad.  If you don't have a problem 
    	with needing two incomes to obtain these things, then it's not
    	bad.
46.284DASHER::RALSTONscrewiti'mgoinhome..Wed Nov 01 1995 15:279
    <<< Note 46.283 by CSC32::J_OPPELT "Wanna see my scar?" >>>
    
    Good, people need to be free produce the income that allows them the life 
    that they choose for themselves and their family. If those who decide
    to work hard, have two incomes or whatever, have large homes, nice
    clothes, and new cars, more power to them. Just because some people want to
    make the decision to only have one income, yet complain because it
    costs to much to have the same nice things, doesn't mean that we have a
    problem.
46.285ALFSS1::CIAROCHIOne Less DogFri Nov 03 1995 14:044
    People think you need two incomes to get by these days, and it simply
    is not true.
    
    What people need is to cut back to a single outgo.
46.286TROOA::COLLINSMe, fail English? Unpossible!Thu Nov 09 1995 18:276
    
    Sorry, couldn't wait 'til Friday...
    
    We can provide better customer service, at a lower cost to the 
    customer, and still reduce our annual budget by $10-million.
    
46.287POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerThu Nov 09 1995 18:312
    You need to trade a few hockey players, or at least one basketball
    player.
46.288TROOA::COLLINSMe, fail English? Unpossible!Thu Nov 09 1995 18:343
    
    Rotisserie League GPS.
    
46.289ACISS1::BATTISLife is not a dress rehearsalThu Nov 09 1995 19:332
    
    everything is under control, Captain
46.290WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Nov 10 1995 09:075
    increased cohabitation has resulted in increased violence
    
    Elvis & Gerry were spotted a local donut shop
    
    Buchanin will become president
46.291BUSY::SLABOUNTYAlways a Best Man, never a groomFri Nov 10 1995 14:433
    
    	Chip, did you buy another "National Enquirer"?
    
46.292WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Nov 10 1995 16:583
    yas founds me outs Shawn...
    
    psssst, does yas still want it when i'm through?
46.293BUSY::SLABOUNTYAs you wishFri Nov 10 1995 17:003
    
    	Nah ... by then the pages will all be stuck together.
    
46.294MAIL1::CRANEWed Dec 27 1995 12:525
    no make up but fact:
    If you have a copy of USA Today there is a picture (on the front page I
    think) of a man throwing a snow ball at the last Giant game who just
    happens to work at Digital (I think). There is presently a $1000.00
    reward for his name (which I honestly don`t know). 
46.295CSLALL::HENDERSONPraise His name I am freeWed Dec 27 1995 13:0313

 Two questions:

 1) is the picture still there if I don't have a copy of USA Today


 2) Does the Giant game work for Digital?




 Jim
46.296MAIL1::CRANEWed Dec 27 1995 13:092
    .295
    yes and no...in that order.
46.297GAVEL::JANDROWGreen-Eyed Lady...Wed Dec 27 1995 16:045
    
    and some of those fans who threw snowballs were punished by having
    there season passes taken from them...
    
    
46.298MAIL1::CRANEWed Dec 27 1995 16:084
    .297
    This wasn`t a season seat. I`m sure they will catch him...but I won`t
    turn him in. What he did was terrible and he should be locked up. If he
    were a season ticket holder he shouldn`t have a seat.
46.299TROOA::COLLINSSparky DoobsterWed Dec 27 1995 16:123
    
    How "terrible" was it?
    
46.300POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of PerditionWed Dec 27 1995 16:145
    
    Not terrible enough that Ray'll turn him in for the reward, I guess.
    
    
    
46.301MPGS::MARKEYI'm feeling ANSI and ISOlatedWed Dec 27 1995 16:158
    
    What I saw on the news was your run-of-the-mill everyone
    having a good time snowball fight in the stands. Yeah, one
    guy definitely got pelted but he didn't seem all that upset...
    
    Did something else "bad" happen? Or is that it?
    
    -b
46.302unconcscious? unconscscscious? something like thatSX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoWed Dec 27 1995 16:174
    One of the coaches on the sidelines got knocked unconcious by an
    iceball, as tv news out here reported it.  
    
    DougO
46.303BUSY::SLABOUNTYMy other account is on an ALPHA AXPWed Dec 27 1995 16:174
    
    	He was probably knocked senseless, but who's to say he wasn't
    	already like that??
    
46.304POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of PerditionWed Dec 27 1995 16:179
    
    The one guy who got pelted was knocked unconscious by that snowball.
    
    Real mature behaviour by the adults in the stands, I must say.  Altho
    it reminds me of when I went to a Patriot's game earlier this year.  I
    was appalled by the spectators.
    
    Where IS that note.
    
46.305MPGS::MARKEYI'm feeling ANSI and ISOlatedWed Dec 27 1995 16:206
    
    I missed that part... the guy I was talking about was in the
    stands, trying to climb the stairs. I assume he wasn't the
    asst coach; if he was, he'll probably get fined for his trouble.
    
    -b
46.306GAVEL::JANDROWGreen-Eyed Lady...Wed Dec 27 1995 18:0013
    
    re: .298
    
    i never said that the guy who was in the paper was a season ticket
    holder...just that some of the fans who threw the snowballs had their
    season passes revoked.  i believe the radio said it was 10 ticket
    holders who are now ticketless.
    
    and on a side note, i was watching one game this weekend, and someone
    threw and egg (a rather large one) on the field and it never broke
    until one of the players smooshed it with his shoe...
    
    
46.307HIGHD::FLATMANGive2TheMegan&amp;KennethCollegeFundWed Dec 27 1995 18:397
    RE: losing season tickets

    I know this will show my ignorance with regards to football, but how
    much of the season is left?  How big of a deal was it that they lost
    their season passes?

    -- Dave
46.308CSLALL::HENDERSONPraise His name I am freeWed Dec 27 1995 18:469

 Perhaps they lose their right to the tickets for perpetuity. If I have
 season tickets for this year, that gives me the opportunity to have the
 same tickets for the next year.



 Jim
46.309BUSY::SLABOUNTYWhy don't you bend for gold?Wed Dec 27 1995 18:467
    
    	People with season tickets get the chance to sign up again for
    	next year.
    
    	So, this could be bad for them if they want to continue buying
    	season tickets in future years.
    
46.310BUSY::SLABOUNTYWhy don't you bend for gold?Wed Dec 27 1995 18:476
    
    	Geez, everybody's stealing my entries before I even get a chance
    	to put them in here!!
    
    	I'll have to start abbreviating from now on.
    
46.311CONSLT::MCBRIDEpack light, keep low, move fast, reload oftenWed Dec 27 1995 18:541
    Not only that but he is going to cut things short! 
46.312POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerWed Dec 27 1995 21:501
    Thanks little buddy.
46.313One of several hundred snow throwersCOVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertThu Dec 28 1995 00:0212
>    If you have a copy of USA Today there is a picture (on the front page I
>    think) of a man throwing a snow ball at the last Giant game who just
>    happens to work at Digital (I think). There is presently a $1000.00
>    reward for his name (which I honestly don`t know). 

Too late now; nooz sez the reward has been claimed, but the picture is at:

	http://pathfinder.com/time/daily/pix/1227/giants2.jpeg

Anyone know him fershure?

/john
46.314MAIL1::CRANEThu Dec 28 1995 09:349
    .313
    Yes, his name is Jeff Lang 26 years old. Worked here at KYO as a temp.
    Not sure what his function was. As I was leaving two state police and a
    detective came past me. They stayed about 40 mintues getting
    information about his were abouts. He didn`t come to work yesterday and
    RUMOR has it that his boss at the temp agency will get the reward. It
    was announced that his seat was a season ticket holder and that person
    will lose the rights to it. Now there are only 19,999 people on the
    list. 
46.315GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERRIP Amos, you will be missedThu Dec 28 1995 09:5310
    
    
    
    What gets me is that there were hundreds of snowballs thrown and they
    claim to have narrowed it down to this one goofball as the one who
    started it.  This cannot be provable.  The "authorities" are making too
    big a deal of this crap.
    
    
    Mike  
46.316MAIL1::CRANEThu Dec 28 1995 10:0511
    .315
    I feel the same way Mike but the problem is not that he started the
    fight but was the one who knocked out the guy on the side line. Since
    the picture was taken with a movie camera/camcorder the full picture
    alligedly (SP.) shows it. I find that hard to beleive because he was in
    seat 24 in the end zone and the guy was knocked out on the 30-50 yard
    line. If thats true then the Yankees need to hurry up and sign this guy
    (Jeff). 
    
    Jeff is a pretty smart fellow and I`ve heard comes with something like
    a silver spoon in his mouth. 
46.317USAT02::SANDERRThu Dec 28 1995 10:491
    sure it really was jeff george in disguise?
46.318Police have a snowball's chance in hell of getting a convictionCOVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertThu Dec 28 1995 11:3416
Do they really claim that this guy knocked the coach unconscious?

I thought they were just making a big example of him because they
had a great action shot, and wanted to look like they were really
doing something about the snowball fight.

This is going to be interesting to watch as it's played out.  There
is something basic in American culture that has always said that
throwing snowballs is "ok" -- some sort of belief that a little old
snowball can't really hurt anyone -- some sort of belief that it's
just good fun.

So it isn't really Jeff who's on trial here; it's a bit of American
culture that might need to change.

/john
46.319COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertThu Dec 28 1995 12:2014
Here's the nooz on Lange and what he has been charged with, from wire
services:

 He was identified as Jeffrey Lange, 26, of Bridgewater, N.J., Jim Gray of
 the state police said.

 Lange was arrested and charged Wednesday with disorderly conduct, the
 police said. He posted $250 bail and will appear in Municipal Court in East
 Rutherford, N.J., at an undisclosed date for a hearing.

 Lange could face up to six months in jail and/or up to a $1,000 fine if
 found guilty, the police said.

/john
46.320BUSY::SLABOUNTYOn with the body countThu Dec 28 1995 12:565
    
    	What are the charges?
    
    	Inciting a riot, and assault and battery?
    
46.321BUSY::SLABOUNTYOn with the body countThu Dec 28 1995 12:575
    
    	Wait, wait, wait ... 6 months and/or $1K for disorderly conduct??
    
    	What's wrong with this picture?
    
46.322NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Dec 28 1995 13:011
Lucky Jack would prolly want him to fry.
46.323GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERRIP Amos, you will be missedThu Dec 28 1995 13:176
    
    If only this was made up.  Guy was riding with his dogon his Harley.
    He was pulled over and cited for doing so.  The law used in the
    citation was having a person ride on an area of the bike not intended
    for a person.
    
46.324BUSY::SLABOUNTYOn with the body countThu Dec 28 1995 13:193
    
    	The dog isn't a person, so how can the law be applied?
    
46.325NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Dec 28 1995 13:231
What's a dogon?
46.326CONSLT::MCBRIDEpack light, keep low, move fast, reload oftenThu Dec 28 1995 15:241
    Where's PLaytoe when you need him......
46.327COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertThu Dec 28 1995 15:281
Doggone, the dogon is long gone.
46.328TROOA::trp669.tro.dec.com::Chrisit's tummy time!Thu Dec 28 1995 18:275
Back to the football game -  Just wondering, was it snowing during the 
game, or was this snow already in the stands when people got there?
It always amazes me that there can be a blizzard in Buffalo one day, and
by the next day, the ground crew at Rich Stadium has removed all traces
of snow from the seats.
46.329WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin ZKO1-3/B31 381-1159Thu Dec 28 1995 18:317
    
    the grounds crew failed to remove the temptation. 
    
    one fan got his face plastered all over one of the NY dailies,
    complete with hefty reward to anyone who could identify him.
    
    
46.330CSLALL::HENDERSONPraise His name I am freeThu Dec 28 1995 18:4110

 I wonder if the perps will sue the Giants for not cleaning the stands (thus
 providing an attractive nuisance) and for having a lousy season thus triggering
 "disgruntled football fan syndrome" of which they are victims.




 Jim
46.331USAT05::SANDERRThu Dec 28 1995 18:512
    is it just the mentality of NYC fans or do green bay fans bombard the
    on-field personnel like this (tongue-in-cheek?)
46.332WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin ZKO1-3/B31 381-1159Thu Dec 28 1995 18:543
    
    It's a far cry from the restrained, polite clapping one hears at a
    cricket match.
46.333USAT05::SANDERRThu Dec 28 1995 18:563
    obviously having a 3 hr tailgate party before gametime followed by 3+
    hours of drinking didn't leave these poor souls in the right frame of
    mine, but like I said before,his would only happen NY
46.334COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertThu Dec 28 1995 18:583
re .329 see .313

/john
46.335COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertThu Dec 28 1995 19:1364
> I wonder if the perps will sue the Giants for not cleaning the stands ...

Giants fans expected to mount defense over tickets
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

(c) 1995 Copyright Nando.net
(c) 1995 Reuter Information Service

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (Dec 28, 1995 - 15:17 EST) - The New York Giants may
face some tough defensive blocking of the legal kind when they try to sack
season ticketholders involved in last weekend's snowball debacle.

The Giants say they could cancel up to 75 season tickets used by fans who
threw snowballs during the team's 27-17 loss to the San Diego Chargers
Saturday. One of the icy missiles knocked the Chargers' equipment manager
briefly unconscious.

Fourteen people were arrested, 175 were ejected and 15 were treated for
injuries in the melee.

A New Jersey man, caught in the act by a news photographer as he heaved a
snowball, turned himself in to police Wednesday. The Giants had offered a
$1,000 reward for his identity and the money went to the first of what the
team said were 15 to 20 calls turning in 26-year-old Jeffrey Lange.

The stadium scrap has ended but fans facing the loss of their tickets are
expected to mount a strong defence. They argue that the team has no right to
take season tickets from holders who may given them to others and that many
of the troublemakers may have not been sitting in their own seats.

Others fault the stadium for not clearing away the snow, not cutting off
beer sales and overlooking contraband liquor brought in by fans to help ward
off the winter's chill.

"This is ridiculous," said local state Assemblyman Neil Cohen, speaking out
in defence of the ticketholders. "The Giants are just trying to avoid their
responsibilty," he said. "This is a bureaucratic equivalent of the punt."

The battle is likely to wind up in court, he said, adding, "I'm sure there
will be many lawsuits over this."

The Giants, coming off a losing 5-11 season, vow to hold the line. "Those
season tickets are ours and it's a revokable license," said spokesman Aaron
Salkin.

Ticketholders ejected from the game will lose their seats, while those who
gave their seats away will be considered on an individual basis, he said.
"While it's not set in stone that they will lose their tickets, it's
probable."

But he added, "In this day and age, I'm sure people will be suing."

The snowballer captured on film faces up to six months in jail and a $1,000
fine if convicted of disorderly conduct. He was not a season ticket holder,
the team said. The team refused to disclose who won the reward for turning
him in.

The Giants plan to run a full-page advertisement Friday in The San Diego
Union-Tribune newspaper, "on behalf of the 99.99 percent of Giants fans who
are the best fans in sports," apologising for the incident.

Giants officials say they have been deluged with calls from worried
ticketholders and from hopeful people whose names are on the waiting list
for the coveted season tickets.
46.336EVMS::MORONEYOperation Foot BulletThu Dec 28 1995 19:527
re .328:

You're talking about Buffalo.  They know how to deal with snow there.
(although the recent 2-3 foot blizzard did manage to shut down the
city for a day or so)

(Toronto?  You must know how to deal with snow like that, don't you?)
46.337POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerThu Dec 28 1995 20:012
    Toronto doesn't get that much snow, it's on the north shore of the
    lake.
46.338EVMS::MORONEYOperation Foot BulletThu Dec 28 1995 20:1510
46.339The game is in Green Bay :-(DECLNE::REESEMy REALITY check bouncedThu Dec 28 1995 20:413
    Speaking of snow; IMO the Atlanta Falcon's have about as much chance
    as a snowball in Hades at beating Green Bay this coming weekend :-(
    
46.340POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerFri Dec 29 1995 01:093
    Once when I was driving from here to Ohio in November, I encountered a
    large lake effect storm in Buffalo, right near Rich Stadium. It was
    sunny and clear before and sunny and clear after.
46.341MAIL1::CRANEFri Dec 29 1995 11:213
    	RUMOR has it that his ex-wife turned him in (Jeef Lange that is). I
    also heard his boss at the temp agency turned him in. I think sooner or
    later the real person will be I.D.ed. 
46.342COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertFri Dec 29 1995 11:445
>the real person

According to the news there were 15-20 people who turned him in.

/john
46.343POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of PerditionFri Dec 29 1995 11:555
    
    And according to ESPN last night he turned HIMSELF in for the reward
    8^).
    
    
46.344CSLALL::HENDERSONPraise His name I am freeFri Dec 29 1995 12:1914


 This clown is rapidly becoming public enemy #1. 



 Hmmm..wonder what he was doing on June 12,1994..





 Jim
46.345TROOA::COLLINSFalling with style.Fri Dec 29 1995 12:234
    
    I know FOR A FACT that he tossed a snowball at 
    Kennedy from the grassy knoll.
    
46.346CSLALL::HENDERSONPraise His name I am freeFri Dec 29 1995 12:394


 His real friends know that he and DB Cooper are one and the same.
46.347COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertFri Dec 29 1995 13:017
>    And according to ESPN last night he turned HIMSELF in for the reward

Did they say "he turned himself in for the reward" or "he turned himself
in" after someone else had claimed the reward and his name was being read
out of the radios of every police car within a hunnert miles.

/john
46.348POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of NightmaresFri Dec 29 1995 13:065
    
    As I wrote, they said that he turned himself in for the reward.
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Why would I have written that otherwise?                      
    
46.349MAIL1::CRANEFri Dec 29 1995 13:103
    The reward went to the first person to identify him. He might have
    turned himself in but the reward went to the first person to put a name
    to the face (correctly).
46.350POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of NightmaresFri Dec 29 1995 13:234
    
    {sigh}
    
    
46.351You usually can't collect a reward turning yourself in!COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertFri Dec 29 1995 13:244
Well, the news wires say "he turned himself in".  Mebbe the ESPN reporter
can't read.

/john
46.352POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of NightmaresFri Dec 29 1995 13:254
    
    {sigh}
    
    
46.353CSLALL::HENDERSONPraise His name I am freeFri Dec 29 1995 13:278


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46.354BUSY::SLABOUNTYThe call me Dr. LoveFri Dec 29 1995 13:286
    
    	What's wrong with turning yourself in to collect the reward,
    	John?  Seems kind of unfair to offer a reward and then refuse
    	payment of same just because the claimant happened to be the
    	suspect.
    
46.355MAIL1::CRANEFri Dec 29 1995 13:433
    He can turn himself in but the reward went to the person who gave his
    name. They asked for a name and if it matched that person got the
    reward. His name was given long BEFORE he turned himself in. 
46.356BUSY::SLABOUNTYThe call me Dr. LoveFri Dec 29 1995 13:444
    
    	Ray, I was referring to a "general" reward scenario, not this
    	one specifically.
    
46.357MAIL1::CRANEFri Dec 29 1995 13:462
    I`ve generally seen rewards that state with "arrest and conviction" but
    never for just a name as in this case.
46.358EVMS::MORONEYOperation Foot BulletFri Dec 29 1995 15:282
re .294 (and others):  Why did they think the snowball thrower was a
Digital worker if they didn't know (at the time) who it was?
46.359MAIL1::CRANEFri Dec 29 1995 15:344
    I knew who it was when I seen the paper the next day. I thought he was
    a permenant employee, then I heard a temp now its back to perm. There
    was no doubt who it was in my eyes. I just opted not to be one of the
    15 or so people who called up to give his name.
46.360CSLALL::HENDERSONPraise His name I am freeFri Dec 29 1995 15:414


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46.361NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Dec 29 1995 15:481
Maternal grammar or paternal grammar?
46.362CSLALL::HENDERSONPraise His name I am freeFri Dec 29 1995 15:514


 Yes.
46.363COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertFri Dec 29 1995 16:223
Well, I don't think he's a permanent employee; he's not in ELF.

/john
46.364BUSY::SLABOUNTYNew Yorkers frisk their childrenFri Dec 29 1995 16:333
    
    	Maybe they fired him for throwing the snowball.
    
46.365ACISS1::BATTIStwo cans short of a 6 packFri Jan 05 1996 14:093
    
    at least in Chicago, we have civilized fans, unlike New Jersey fans.
    no offense Ray.
46.366MAIL1::CRANEWed Jan 10 1996 10:594
    Not all of us are uncivilized...I was uprooted and spent 15 years in
    N.H. I`m not offended because I concider myself re-transplanted to N.J.
    Like I`ve said before, my wife and kids were born in N.H. so there is
    hope or them.
46.367BSS::PROCTOR_RWallet full of eelskinsFri Mar 08 1996 13:444
    Friday make-up-a-fact-day:
    
    'boxers are the highest life form on the planet 
    (behind me of course)...
46.368must be the drugsHBAHBA::HAASfloor,chair,couch,bedFri Mar 08 1996 13:450
46.369True or False?CHEFS::HANDLEY_IMy Name?...Good Question.Fri Mar 08 1996 13:535
    
    Fact:
    
    Poison arrow frogs mate more profusely when played bach concertos at 
    33rpm.
46.370BSS::PROCTOR_RWallet full of eelskinsFri Mar 08 1996 13:586
     Poison arrow frogs mate more profusely when played bach concertos at
        33rpm.
    
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    What do they do when somebody places Alice In Chains at 78RPM?
46.371they vote for BuchananHBAHBA::HAASfloor,chair,couch,bedFri Mar 08 1996 14:040
46.372SMURF::WALTERSFri Mar 08 1996 14:081
    Sounds like an 'arrowing experience.
46.373CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesFri Mar 08 1996 14:092
    Bull's eye!
    
46.374BSS::PROCTOR_RWallet full of eelskinsFri Mar 08 1996 14:113
    ?Bull's eye!?
    
    
46.375SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiFri Mar 08 1996 14:112
    I have a poison-dart frog on my kitchen windowsill.  It's a very nice
    little blue-and yellow one.
46.376CHEFS::HANDLEY_IMy Name?...Good Question.Fri Mar 08 1996 14:192
    
    Have you tried playing Bach to it?
46.377SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiFri Mar 08 1996 14:202
    I asked it if it would like that, bit it doesn't talk Bach, it's a very
    quiet frog.
46.378SMURF::WALTERSFri Mar 08 1996 14:241
    Human in the throat mebbe?
46.379BSS::PROCTOR_RWallet full of eelskinsFri Mar 08 1996 14:259
    > ...bit it doesn't talk Bach...
    
    you BIT it?
    
    somebody call 911 QUICK!
    
    	{dial dial dial dial dial...}
    
    
46.380SMURF::WALTERSFri Mar 08 1996 14:261
    His Bach is worse than his bite.
46.381POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of The Counter KingFri Mar 08 1996 14:293
    
    Perhaps he can't Handel listening to Bach.
    
46.382BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Fri Mar 08 1996 14:575
    
    	Listen?
    
    	You meant Lizsten, didn't you?
    
46.383POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of The Counter KingFri Mar 08 1996 15:045
    
    You are Verdi, Verdi smart, Shawn.
    
    
    
46.384POWDML::BUCKLEYFri Mar 08 1996 15:194
    Re: the Holst of bad jokes
    
    
    Knock it Orff, or else!
46.385POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of The Counter KingFri Mar 08 1996 15:273
    
    If I were Bizet, I wouldn't have time to think these up.
          
46.386SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiFri Mar 08 1996 15:275
    .384
    
    > Knock it Orff, or else!
    
    Or else what?  You'll Koch us on your Weber?
46.387CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Fri Mar 08 1996 15:293

 quit grilling him, Dick..
46.388POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Fri Mar 08 1996 15:371
    That reminds me, where's my Chopin Lizst?
46.389POWDML::BUCKLEYFri Mar 08 1996 15:404
    >>That reminds me, where's my Chopin Lizst?
    
    
    I think Binder knows.  Maybe he'll Tallis.
46.390SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiFri Mar 08 1996 15:491
    Naw, I wouldn't want to get your Bax up.
46.391SMURF::WALTERSFri Mar 08 1996 15:491
    Your chopin liszt is haydn.
46.392PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Mar 08 1996 15:528
 .391 beat me to it.

      a friend of mine has a pad of paper that says "chopin lizst"
      at the top.  did you steal that idea, glenn?  or was that a 
      richardson original?


46.393POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Fri Mar 08 1996 15:531
    Eh? Somebody already marketed this pun? Wow.
46.394WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Mar 08 1996 16:151
    weather forecast for Saturday, sunny, highs near 85.
46.395SMURF::WALTERSFri Mar 08 1996 16:151
    Kelvin?
46.396WAHOO::LEVESQUEthe dangerous typeFri Mar 08 1996 16:161
    That's the forecast all right. For where I was LAST saturday.
46.397BSS::PROCTOR_RUnmarried Childless Head of HouseholdFri Mar 29 1996 12:381
    Hitler's alive!
46.398SOLVIT::KRAWIECKItumble to remove burrsFri Mar 29 1996 12:485
    
    
    Yep... he's living with General Franco on an island off the coast of
    Spain..
    
46.399SMURF::WALTERSFri Mar 29 1996 13:331
    Formin'terror is an island off the coast of Espana.
46.400BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoFri Mar 29 1996 13:582
	400th snarf!
46.401CHEFS::HANDLEY_IFunky Acid Baby!Fri Mar 29 1996 14:589
    
    Fact:  repeated snarfing has proven to be carcinogenic.
    
    
    be afraid, be very afraid.
    
    
    
    I.
46.402BSS::PROCTOR_RPnut butter &amp; quiver sandwich pleeze!Fri Apr 26 1996 15:002
    The IRS is our friend. They're here to help us.
    
46.403WAHOO::LEVESQUEa legend beings at its endFri Apr 26 1996 15:431
    All you need to do is cooperate and everything will be fine.
46.404BSS::SMITH_SFri Apr 26 1996 18:553
    aaaaaaaagggggggghhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
    -ss