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Conference back40::soapbox

Title:Soapbox. Just Soapbox.
Notice:No more new notes
Moderator:WAHOO::LEVESQUEONS
Created:Thu Nov 17 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:862
Total number of notes:339684

666.0. "Leap year, last of the 20th Century" by USAT05::HALLR (God loves even you!) Thu Feb 29 1996 01:21

    Well, in just a matter of a little more than an hour here, it'll be
    February 29th.
    
    Anyone got any special plans for this Leap Year?
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666.1CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Thu Feb 29 1996 01:239


  Hopefully, I'll wake up and go about my usual business.  Just another day
 to me..



 Jim
666.2POLAR::RICHARDSONHindskits VelvetThu Feb 29 1996 01:233
    I'm going to get me heeeah cooot.
    
    On no, that was Daphne, sorry.
666.3BSS::S_CONLONA Season of CarneliansThu Feb 29 1996 01:253
    Wish Happy Birthday to all those who only get to celebrate their
    birthdays once every four years.  (When I went to High School,
    we had four Leap Day birthday folks in my class alone.)
666.4POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of The Counter KingThu Feb 29 1996 01:263
    
    It's Frederic's 35th birthday.
    
666.5USAT05::HALLRGod loves even you!Thu Feb 29 1996 01:271
    anyone I know?
666.6CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Thu Feb 29 1996 01:298


               \|/ ____ \|/
                @~/ ,. \~@
               /_( \__/ )_\-------4 6's snarf!
               ~  \__U_/  ~

666.7POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of The Counter KingThu Feb 29 1996 01:354
    
    Frederic is the Slave of Duty.  "Strong his arm, and keen his scent is;
    he's a pirate now indeed."
    
666.8MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Thu Feb 29 1996 01:355
Sadie Hawkins Day.

I'm hoping some fine wimmens axe me for a date so that I don't hafta be 
sittin' here 24 hours from now writin' in topic 12.

666.9USAT05::HALLRGod loves even you!Thu Feb 29 1996 01:352
    Am thinkin about taking a few hours off Thursday PM and going out
    w/Lori and Sarah to dinner.
666.10CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Thu Feb 29 1996 01:354


 Maybe someone will ask me to marry them...
666.11POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of The Counter KingThu Feb 29 1996 01:364
    
    I didn't know you were a pastor, Jim.
    
    
666.12MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Thu Feb 29 1996 01:372
Fancy crashin' notes with you, here, Jim!

666.13CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Thu Feb 29 1996 01:379



  ;-)



   There's a lot about me you don't know, my dear..
666.14USAT05::HALLRGod loves even you!Thu Feb 29 1996 01:3812
    Jim:
    
    Don't let Glen know u r available   :-)
    
    Jack:
    
    I hear that Jack Martin has a friend in your part of the woods that
    might just be askin'.
    
    Miss Deb:
    
    Always knew I could count on u.
666.15POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of The Counter KingThu Feb 29 1996 01:444
    
    At least up to 20.
    
    
666.16USAT05::HALLRGod loves even you!Thu Feb 29 1996 01:441
    I would guess 22
666.17POLAR::RICHARDSONHindskits VelvetThu Feb 29 1996 01:451
    8^o
666.18MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Thu Feb 29 1996 01:474
>    I hear that Jack Martin has a friend in your part of the woods that
>    might just be askin'.

<turns head both ways> <looks cautiously around> <tries to act inconspicuously>
666.19USAT05::HALLRGod loves even you!Thu Feb 29 1996 01:483
    Jack:
    
    U have to put on that sheepish smile that Sarah liked so much!
666.20BSS::S_CONLONA Season of CarneliansThu Feb 29 1996 04:1712
    By the way, the title of this topic is incorrect.

    We do have one more Leap Year in the 20th Century (in the year 2000.)

    (The year 2000 is in the 20th Century - the year 2001 is the first
    year of the 21st Century.  Also, the year 2000 *is* a leap year.
    Although the year 1900 was not a leap year, the year 2000 is divisible
    by 400 so the year 2000 is a leap year.)

    So we have one more Leap Day in the 20th Century besides the one today! 

    (Yay!)
666.21CBHVAX::CBHOwl-Stretching Time!Thu Feb 29 1996 06:164
...I wondered who'd have to point out that 2000 is the last year of the 
century.  Well I don't care, 1999 sounds better anyway.

Chris.
666.22CSC32::M_EVANScuddly as a cactusThu Feb 29 1996 06:218
    Who cares?
    
    For some of us it may  well be the last leap year, for others there are
    more to come.  I already called one set of friends and wished them a
    happy 2nd anniversary tomorrow.  I'll call her parents and wish them a
    happy 14th.
    
    meg
666.23USAT02::HALLRGod loves even you!Thu Feb 29 1996 11:551
    I put that in there for obvious reasons.  :-)
666.24tricky triviaGAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseThu Feb 29 1996 12:037
    
      According to the papers, 1996 is what is called a "bisextate" year.
     Apparently this term has to do with heavenly bodies.
    
      BTW - bar bet I overheard : Is 2000 a Leap Year, or not ?
    
      bb
666.25USAT02::HALLRGod loves even you!Thu Feb 29 1996 12:055
    bb:
    
    I'll take a leap and say it is.
    
    Ron
666.26POWDML::HANGGELIHappy 35th Birthday, FredericThu Feb 29 1996 12:053
    
    Yes, because it's divisible by 400.
    
666.27ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunThu Feb 29 1996 12:102
    
    I got a rock
666.28BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityThu Feb 29 1996 12:345
| <<< Note 666.14 by USAT05::HALLR "God loves even you!" >>>

| Don't let Glen know u r available   :-)

	Hee hee hee
666.29No distributed computing today...DOCTP::KELLERThink=conscience and vote=libertarianThu Feb 29 1996 13:464
    DCE is down the world over.  Seems that it doesn't recognize February
    29th...
    
    --Geoff
666.30SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiThu Feb 29 1996 13:553
    .29
    
    Another reason I'm glad my preferred computer is a Macintosh.
666.31MKOTS3::FLATHERSThu Feb 29 1996 13:5812
    >   (The year 2000 is in the 20th Century - the year 2001 is the first
    >   year of the 21st Century.  Also, the year 2000 *is* a leap year.
    
        What "pin-head"  thought that one up ????
    
        Wasn't the year "0" part of the 1st century ???  So Y would
    the year 100 be part of the 1st century as well ?
    ( just to show comparison )
    
       I plan on one hell of a party Dec 31st, 1999.
    
    
666.32party longlyHBAHBA::HAASjeap jeerThu Feb 29 1996 14:038
>       I plan on one hell of a party Dec 31st, 1999.

Just to be sure, I recommend partying from that date to January 1, 2001.
Maybe Jan 2, depending on the bowl games.

That way you know you're covered.

TTom
666.33MKOTS3::FLATHERSThu Feb 29 1996 14:045
       I forgot something
    
      8^)
      ^^^
    
666.34i din'tHBAHBA::HAASjeap jeerThu Feb 29 1996 14:040
666.35SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiThu Feb 29 1996 14:1011
    .31
    
    Q:  When, pray tell, was the year 0?
    
    A:  There was no year 0.  In fact, the people who devised our current
    dating system, under Dionysius Exiguus in the sixth century CE, did not
    use a numbering system that included the concept of zero.  The first
    year of the current era was numbered Anno Domini I by them, and the
    first year counting backward from there was Ante Christum I.  Today
    most people refer to Anno Domini as A.D. and Ante (before) Christum as
    B.C.
666.36PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Feb 29 1996 14:122
  i wonder if they called him Dion for short.
666.37SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiThu Feb 29 1996 14:121
    Dion *is* short.
666.3810001011000MKOTS3::FLATHERSThu Feb 29 1996 14:138
     
       the year "0" has been recently incorporated into the scheme.
    
      this is the computer age.  And "0"  is significant !
    
    
        8^)
    
666.39MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Thu Feb 29 1996 14:201
    Anybody heeeeere....seen my old friend Abraham....
666.40SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiThu Feb 29 1996 14:275
    .38
    
    I repeat the question.  When was the year 0?  It cannot have been the
    year immediately preceding A.D. 1, nor can it have been the year
    immediately following 1 B.C.
666.41MKOTS3::FLATHERSThu Feb 29 1996 14:287
     Jack, didn't you have that hit record back in 1968 ??
    
       I actually bought that 45 with my hard earned 67 cents.
    Back then, I had about 3 bucks to my name, and thought I was 
    ride'en high !!!
    
    
666.42MKOTS3::FLATHERSThu Feb 29 1996 14:315
    > I repeat the question.  When was the year 0? 
    
       Do you mean virtual 0 ?  
    
    
666.43MKOTS3::FLATHERSThu Feb 29 1996 14:355
      the major beer co.'s are gearing up to insure that we believe
    the year 2000 is part of the 21st century.
    
    
    
666.44SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiThu Feb 29 1996 15:474
    .43
    
    Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American
    public.
666.45SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiThu Feb 29 1996 15:485
    .42
    
    > Do you mean virtual 0 ?
    
    Is that the year about which I stored all kinds of information into a WOM?
666.46something's missingHBAHBA::HAASjeap jeerThu Feb 29 1996 15:506
re: .40

So it does this mean that on one days it's "December 31,-1" and the
nexted day it's "January 1, 1"?

TTom
666.47SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiThu Feb 29 1996 15:533
    .46
    
    Give the man a see-gar!
666.48do I win something or something?HBAHBA::HAASjeap jeerThu Feb 29 1996 15:550
666.49somethingPOWDML::HANGGELIHappy 35th Birthday, FredericThu Feb 29 1996 15:572
    
    
666.50Yippee!~HBAHBA::HAASjeap jeerThu Feb 29 1996 16:050
666.51MKOTS3::FLATHERSThu Feb 29 1996 16:083
    .48,  yeah,   "a jump to illegal subroutine"
    
    
666.52MKOTS3::FLATHERSThu Feb 29 1996 16:196
        I was reminded via email to use  ---> 8^) more often.
    
      Do I seem hostile ???   
    
        8^)
    
666.53ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunThu Feb 29 1996 16:332
    
    yeah, you win a date with mz_debra, you lucky dog you.
666.54good. I don't like raisinsHBAHBA::HAASleap jeerThu Feb 29 1996 16:350
666.55POWDML::HANGGELIHappy 35th Birthday, FredericThu Feb 29 1996 16:369
              eh?
	      /
	  oO)-.
	 /__  _\       
	 \  \(  |      
	  \__|\ {                                             
	  '  '--'   
    
666.56ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunThu Feb 29 1996 16:434
    
    trust me Tom, a date with mz_deb is a thing to die for. or you might
    get the 1st place prize, which is a singing phone call from her. Either
    way you can't lose.
666.57HBAHBA::HAASleap jeerThu Feb 29 1996 16:449
              tu?
	      /
	  oO)-.
	 /__  _\ 
	 \  \(  |
	  \__|\ {
	  '  '--'

666.58EVMS::MORONEYNever underestimate the power of human stupidityThu Feb 29 1996 16:554
I was almost a Leap Year Day baby.

The Glob has a story about a 100 year old man who is celebrating his 24th
"official" birthday today.
666.59COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertThu Feb 29 1996 17:195
>      According to the papers, 1996 is what is called a "bisextate" year.

That's "bissextile".

/john
666.60SOLVIT::KRAWIECKILord of the Turnip TruckThu Feb 29 1996 17:2010
    
    re: .56
    
    >trust me Tom, a date with mz_deb is a thing to die for.
    
    Refresh my memory, Mark...
    
    When was the last time you had a date with mz_deb to make such an
    assessment??
    
666.61POWDML::HANGGELIHappy 35th Birthday, FredericThu Feb 29 1996 17:487
    
    I have just been informed that today is Gioacchino Rossini's 49th 
    birthday.
    
    I'll be glad to sing something from "La Cenerentola" as a tribute 
    if anyone is interested 8^).
    
666.62Really shout it outHBAHBA::HAASleap jeerThu Feb 29 1996 17:524
>    I'll be glad to sing something from "La Cenerentola" as a tribute 
>    if anyone is interested 8^).

<raising hand sycophantly> Yes, please!~
666.63NUBOAT::HEBERTCaptain BlighThu Feb 29 1996 17:586
La Cenerentola... one of my faves. I think I have it on three different
CDs and a couple of LPs. 

Ranks right up there with La Gozza Ladra.

Art
666.64NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Feb 29 1996 18:003
>Ranks right up there with La Gozza Ladra.

And "Tomorrow" from "Annie."  Right, Deb?
666.65different thing all togetherHBAHBA::HAASleap jeerThu Feb 29 1996 18:014
>La Cenerentola

Actually, when I saw this I first read it as "La Centerfolda".

666.66CSLALL::SECURITYMADHATTAThu Feb 29 1996 18:021
    I just wanted to be note 666.66
666.67good snarf, Lunchbox!~HBAHBA::HAASleap jeerThu Feb 29 1996 18:041
666.68POWDML::HANGGELIHappy 35th Birthday, FredericThu Feb 29 1996 18:1210
    
    .64
    
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
    
    At least you didn't mention "Consider Yourself" from Oliver!.
    
    8^p
    
    
666.69NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Feb 29 1996 18:153
>                          -< good snarf, Lunchbox!~ >-

Where's that oxymoron note?
666.70CSLALL::SECURITYMADHATTAThu Feb 29 1996 18:198
    I don't know how you came up with the ever-popular term "snarf", but
    there was a cartoon called "Thundercats" in the mid-80's. It was about
    these muscular lion/humans who got in swordfights a lot. Anyway, there
    was this thing called Snarf, he might have been a little dog or
    something, but all he ever said was "Snarf, snarf" and I think that may
    be the origin of the soapbox term "snarf".
    
    				lunchbox
666.71'Snarf' means to acquire...BSS::S_CONLONA Season of CarneliansThu Feb 29 1996 18:257
    Lunchbox, 'snarf' is not a Soapbox term.
    
    It's a term used all over Digital for the practice of acquiring a
    note/reply number which has 'status' compared to other numbers, such as
    getting reply number with a lot of 0s at the end of it:  5.10000
    
    '666' and '69' have special significance, too, for various reasons.  :)
666.72isn't 'snarf' from 'Jabberwocky'?HBAHBA::HAASleap jeerThu Feb 29 1996 18:270
666.73PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Feb 29 1996 18:286
>                     -< isn't 'snarf' from 'Jabberwocky'? >-

	no, but sure sounds like it should be, eh? ;>


666.74AIMHI::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaThu Feb 29 1996 18:305
    Gee. I thought a snarf was related to a jackalope, or a snipe, or a
    mux.:) Remember that a snarf in time saves nine. And snarf today and
    snarf tomorrow.
     
    wabawaba
666.75might come in handyHBAHBA::HAASleap jeerThu Feb 29 1996 18:323
Maybe it's a portmanteau of snort and scarf.

Something that you can blow your nose on and wear at the same time.
666.76CSLALL::SECURITYMADHATTAThu Feb 29 1996 18:335
    Thank you for the brief overview of snarfing. I can't imagine the term
    started anyplace other than Thundercats. 
    
    				lunchbox
    
666.77NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Feb 29 1996 18:345
>    It's a term used all over Digital for the practice of acquiring a
>    note/reply number which has 'status' compared to other numbers, such as
>    getting reply number with a lot of 0s at the end of it:  5.10000

What other notesfiles?
666.78BSS::S_CONLONA Season of CarneliansThu Feb 29 1996 18:341
    A lot of other notesfiles.
666.79CSLALL::SECURITYMADHATTAThu Feb 29 1996 18:351
    She told you.
666.80NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Feb 29 1996 18:352
So name one or two.  I've never seen it anywhere but here, other than as entered
by a confused 'boxer.
666.81CSLALL::SECURITYMADHATTAThu Feb 29 1996 18:371
    Don't let him talk to you like that, suzanne!!!!
666.82POWDML::HANGGELIHappy 35th Birthday, FredericThu Feb 29 1996 18:404
    
    Rossini was kind to mezzos.  
    
    
666.83but not to bozosHBAHBA::HAASleap jeerThu Feb 29 1996 18:410
666.84PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Feb 29 1996 18:423
  "portmanteau" - la-dee-dah.  very impressive. ;>

666.85How about Harpo??SOLVIT::KRAWIECKILord of the Turnip TruckThu Feb 29 1996 18:421
    
666.86GENRAL::RALSTONFugitive from the law of averagesThu Feb 29 1996 18:435
I haven't been following this thread. Maybe somebody mentioned it already.

But, isn't there one more leap year in the twentieth century?

2/29/00
666.87POWDML::HANGGELIHappy 35th Birthday, FredericThu Feb 29 1996 18:435
    
    How many other composers do you know that regularly wrote leads for
    mezzos?  And coloratura mezzos at that?  The man was a gentleman and a
    scholar.
    
666.88BSS::S_CONLONA Season of CarneliansThu Feb 29 1996 18:5110
    RE: .80  Gerald Sacks
    
    > So name one or two.  I've never seen it anywhere but here, other than 
    > as entered by a confused 'boxer.
    
    JoyOfLex has always had a big 'snarf' competition in the "Word Association
    Football" topic.  (It's a very, very fast moving topic with a great many
    replies since they tend to be empty replies with titles only.)
    
    Also, other files like ::FRIENDS have engaged in snarfing.
666.89AIMHI::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaThu Feb 29 1996 18:531
    .86 Nope. that becomes the 21st Century there spaceperson!:)
666.90The year 2000 is in the 20th Century, true.BSS::S_CONLONA Season of CarneliansThu Feb 29 1996 19:0011
    RE: .86  
    
    > But, isn't there one more leap year in the twentieth century?

    > 2/29/00
    
    
    You're absolutely correct about this, and yes, it was mentioned
    in this topic earlier.
    
    We do have one Leap Year left:  The year 2000!
666.91It's my birthdayHOTLNE::LUSSIERThu Feb 29 1996 19:319
    
    re: Gioacchino Rossini's 49th birthday  -  can't happen if he was born
    
        Feb.29th   he's either 48 or 52 ,   Your first birthday celebration
     
        being when you turn 4, then 8, then 12. etc.
    
    
    
666.92POWDML::HANGGELIHappy 35th Birthday, FredericThu Feb 29 1996 19:324
    
    You feeling ok, Lussier?
    
    
666.93NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Feb 29 1996 19:367
>    JoyOfLex has always had a big 'snarf' competition in the "Word Association
>    Football" topic.  (It's a very, very fast moving topic with a great many
>    replies since they tend to be empty replies with titles only.)

There are a total of four replies (out of over 15000) that have "snarf" in
the title.  They are all related to mentions of the 'box.  There are another
four or five replies that have it in the text of the reply.
666.94.93AIMHI::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaThu Feb 29 1996 19:401
    Snarf-o-rama!
666.95EVMS::MORONEYIn the beginning there was nothing, which exploded...Thu Feb 29 1996 19:594
The cool thing about snarf notes is the last 2 digits of the reply number
is always the IQ of the snarfer.

-Madman
666.96GENRAL::RALSTONFugitive from the law of averagesThu Feb 29 1996 20:038
Re: .89   

    >.86 Nope. that becomes the 21st Century there spaceperson!:)

Nope. Still the 20th century there spaceperson!  :)

12/31/00 is the last day of the 20th century. New-millennium Eve.
666.97USAT02::HALLRGod loves even you!Thu Feb 29 1996 21:141
    isn't the snarf those little blue things
666.98CSLALL::SECURITYMADHATTAThu Feb 29 1996 21:154
    no, that would be smurf. Am I the only one in here that watched
    cartoons in the Reagan era?
    
    			lunchbox
666.99BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Feb 29 1996 21:163
    
    	Yes, you are.  Most of us couldn't afford TV's in the Reagan Era.
    
666.100CSLALL::SECURITYMADHATTAThu Feb 29 1996 21:217
    It's a shame. He-man, Go-bots, Transformers, GI Joe, Snorks...
    
    
    	No wonder this country is in shambles. You guys missed the best
    years of my life.
    
    				lunchbox
666.101USAT02::HALLRGod loves even you!Thu Feb 29 1996 21:301
    I heard they were gay!
666.102BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Feb 29 1996 21:346
    
    	Gay?
    
    	No, you must be thinking of He?-Man, Transvestiteformers and
    	Gob-bots.
    
666.103re .-1.. you call ME sick? hmph.BSS::PROCTOR_RA wallet full of onesThu Feb 29 1996 21:561
    
666.104shame...shameCSLALL::SECURITYMADHATTAThu Feb 29 1996 23:156
    You people are taking a beautiful part of my childhood and making it
    into something sick.
    
    
    				lunchbox
    
666.105STOP THE MADNESSBSS::E_WALKERTHE STALKERFri Mar 01 1996 02:195
         MADHATTA, you already sound sick to me. I'm surprised you're not
    death-threatening these people by now. You and that S_SMITH psycho are
    a menace to the net. Please stop bombarding my personal account with
    your hidden threats. That S_SMITH guy from SOAPBOX has somehow found
    where I work, thanks to you. 
666.106BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Fri Mar 01 1996 10:415
    
    	Where you work?
    
    	Not too difficult to do, Mr. Edward Samual Walker from Colorado.
    
666.107MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREOn the threshold of a dreamFri Mar 01 1996 10:477
	.93
	
	THAX01::NOTES_FOR_PARADISE had a race note with many 'snarfs'.
	Note 91 was "Speed Racer and Racer X".
	The notes conference is still there, but the only two Notes
	remaining are the basenote and the hidden 91.12949.
	
666.108BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityFri Mar 01 1996 10:543

	Shawn...maybe we should call him Sammie?????
666.109CNTROL::JENNISONJoin me in glad adorationFri Mar 01 1996 12:4210
    
    	I remember seeing snarfs in the FRIENDS conference ten
    	years ago.
    
    	Snarfing also occurs in the Christian conference.  I believe
    	Ann Arno, an old time FRIENDS noter, brought the tradtion to
    	Christian.
    
    	Karen
    
666.1102/29/2000?TINCUP::AGUEhttp://www.usa.net/~agueFri Mar 01 1996 13:009
    In closing last night, the anchor for the local ABC affiliate stated
    that leap year wouldn't be around for another eight years because 2000
    wouldn't have one, a minor adjustment in order to straighten out the
    calendar.
    
    Does this guy know what he is talking about?  I thought for sure
    there's going to be a 2/29/2000.
    
    -- Jim
666.111GENRAL::RALSTONFugitive from the law of averagesFri Mar 01 1996 13:051
<---------------- Maybe congress is passing a law against it!  :)
666.1122/29/2000 is....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftFri Mar 01 1996 13:1117
    He'd be right 100 years ago.  He'd be right 100 years from now.
    He's wrong this time around.
    
    Anyone still have a copy of Stan's QAR answer?
    
    Anyhow....
    
    2/29/1900	no
    2/29/2000	yes
    2/29/2100	no
    2/29/2200	no
    2/29/2300	no
    2/29/2400	yes
    2/29/2500	no
    ...
    
    								-mr. bill
666.113still not sureGAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseFri Mar 01 1996 13:129
    
      The "ordinary" rule is every 4 years, but this "overadjusts".
     Hence the "3 out of 4" centuries, skip a leap year.  But this
     doesn't come out EXACT - in fact, nothing does.  I had heard,
     but have not confirmed, that there is also a "thousands" rule,
     but I do not know what it is.  I never found out who won the
     bar bet, either.  So, IS 2000 a Leap Year, and why or why not ?
    
      bb
666.114SOLVIT::KRAWIECKILord of the Turnip TruckFri Mar 01 1996 13:187
    
    
    Don't really matter too much...
    
    
    
    I'll be washing my hair that night...
666.115Stan Rabinowitz's SPRPOWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of The Counter KingFri Mar 01 1996 13:1999
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SPR NO. 11-60903 

        SYSTEM   VERSION   PRODUCT   VERSION   COMPONENT
SOFTWARE:  VAX/VMS  V3.2      VAX/VMS   V3.2      Run-Time Library

PROBLEM: 

The LIB$DAY Run-Time Library service "incorrectly" assumes the year 2000 is a
leap year. 

RESPONSE: 

Thank you for your forward-looking SPR. 

Various system services, such as SYS$ASCTIM assume that the year 2000 will be a
leap year.  Although one can never be sure of what will happen at some future 
time, there is strong historical precedent for presuming that the present 
Gregorian calendar will still be in affect by the year 2000. Since we also 
hope that VMS will still be around by then, we have chosen to adhere to
these precedents. 

The purpose of a calendar is to reckon time in advance, to show how many days
have to elapse until a certain event takes place in the future, such as the 
harvest or the release of VMS V4. The earliest calendars, naturally, were 
crude and tended to be based upon the seasons or the lunar cycle. 

The calendar of the Assyrians, for example, was based upon the phases of the
moon. They knew that a lunation (the time from one full moon to the next) was 
29 1/2 days long, so their lunar year had a duration of 364 days. This fell 
short of the solar year by about 11 days.  (The exact time for the solar year 
is approximately 365 days, 5 hours, 48 minutes, and 46 seconds.)  After 3 
years, such a lunar calendar would be off by a whole month, so the Assyrians 
added an extra month from time to time to keep their calendar in 
synchronization with the seasons. 

The best approximation that was possible in antiquity was a 19-year period,
with 7 of these 19 years having 13 months (leap months). This scheme was 
adopted as the basis for the religious calendar used by the Jews. (The Arabs 
also used this calendar until Mohammed forbade shifting from 12 months to 
13 months.) 

When Rome emerged as a world power, the difficulties of making a calendar were
well known, but the Romans complicated their lives because of their 
superstition that even numbers were unlucky. Hence their months were 29 or 31 
days long, with the exception of February, which had 28 days. Every second 
year, the Roman calendar included an extra month called Mercedonius of
22 or 23 days to keep up with the solar year. 

Even this algorithm was very poor, so that in 45 BC, Caesar, advised by the
astronomer Sosigenes, ordered a sweeping reform. By imperial decree, one year 
was made 445 days long to bring the calendar back in step with the seasons. 
The new calendar, similar to the one we now use was called the Julian calendar 
(named after Julius Caesar). It's months were 30 or 31 days in length and 
every fourth year was made a leap year (having 366 days). Caesar also decreed 
that the year would start with the first of January, not the vernal equinox in 
late March. 

Caesar's year was 11 1/2 minutes short of the calculations recommended by
Sosigenes and eventually the date of the vernal equinox began to drift. Roger 
Bacon became alarmed and sent a note to Pope Clement IV, who apparently was 
not impressed. Pope Sixtus IV later became convinced that another reform was 
needed and called the German astronomer, Regiomontanus, to Rome to advise him. 
Unfortunately, Regiomontanus died of the plague shortly thereafter and the
plans died as well. 

In 1545, the Council of Trent authorized Pope Gregory XIII to reform the
calendar once more.  Most of the mathematical work was done by Father 
Christopher Clavius, S.J. The immediate correction that was adopted was that 
Thursday, October 4, 1582 was to be the last day of the Julian calendar. The 
next day was Friday, with the date of October 15. For long range accuracy,
a formula suggested by the Vatican librarian Aloysius Giglio was adopted. It
said that every fourth year is a leap year except for century years that are 
not divisible by 400.  Thus 1700, 1800 and 1900 would not be leap years, but 
2000 would be a leap year since 2000 is divisible by 400.  This rule 
eliminates 3 leap years every 4 centuries, making the calendar sufficiently 
correct for most ordinary purposes. This calendar is known as the Gregorian 
calendar and is the one that we now use today. (It is interesting to note that 
in 1582, all the Protestant princes ignored the papal decree and so many 
countries continued to use the Julian calendar until either 1698 or 1752. In
Russia, it needed the revolution to introduce the Gregorian calendar in 1918.) 

This explains why VMS chooses to treat the year 2000 as a leap year. 

Despite the great accuracy of the Gregorian calendar, it still falls behind
very slightly every few years. If you are very concerned about this problem, 
we suggest that you tune in short wave radio station WWV, which broadcasts 
official time signals for use in the United States. About once every 3 years, 
they declare a leap second at which time you should be careful to adjust your
system clock. If you have trouble picking up their signals, we suggest you
purchase an atomic clock (not manufactured by Digital and not a VAX option 
at this time). 

END OF SPR RESPONSE 

666.116Maybe I should re-open it and correct the responseCOVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertFri Mar 01 1996 13:239
BTW, Stan's a pretty smart guy, but the last paragraph is not a calendar
problem.

Leap days deal with the rotation of the earth around the sun.

Leap seconds are unrelated, and deal with the rotation of the earth about
its axis.

/john
666.117NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Mar 01 1996 14:373
So were snarfs first used in FRIENDS or SOAPBOX?  Who was the first to snarf?
Where does he/she live?  Where on the Internet can I find out how to make a
letter bomb?
666.118ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunFri Mar 01 1996 15:022
    
    Gerald take it to topic 15.
666.119DEAD ENDBSS::E_WALKERTHE STALKERFri Mar 01 1996 20:234
         Hey, JOLLIMORE, what's the deal? That NOTES FOR PARADISE didn't
    have any entries. What are you guys trying to pull? By the way, did
    anyone notice when SLABOUNTY printed my name that it was 666?
    
666.120BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Fri Mar 01 1996 20:407
    
    	Sam, that's exactly what Mr. Jollimore said ... there are
    	only 2 notes remaining in NOTES_FOR_PARADISE.
    
    	The next one here who decides to take Comprehension 101,
    	please sign Sam up also.
    
666.121Enough with SAMBSS::E_WALKERTHE STALKERSat Mar 02 1996 00:012
         Stop calling me "Sam". Call me anything else- loser, lowlife, I
    don't care. Just don't call me "Sam". That really hits a nerve. 
666.122POLAR::RICHARDSONI Am Keroque!!Sat Mar 02 1996 01:031
    Sam it is.
666.123Son of SamBSS::E_WALKERTHE STALKERSat Mar 02 1996 01:493
         Hey RICHARDSON, this isn't  even your fight! Why do you have to
    jump in? I've had enough of SLAYBOUNTY and his little friends. 
    
666.124POLAR::RICHARDSONI Am Keroque!!Sat Mar 02 1996 04:061
    Look Sammy boy, it's ok. You'll adjust. Just give it a little time.
666.125Sam-I-Am-NotBSS::E_WALKERTHE STALKERSat Mar 02 1996 04:193
         Don't call me Sam, it's Ed. This is your last warning. I will not
    tolerate being called anything but Ed. 
    
666.126:-)USAT05::HALLRGod loves even you!Sat Mar 02 1996 11:014
    Sam:
    
    Welcome to the 'Box, scumbucket!
    
666.127BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanitySat Mar 02 1996 19:319

	Hi ya Sam. Lovely pet name......but haven't quite figured out if you're
a chiauaha (all yip, no bite), or a bull (as that is all you spew). But Sam
could fit both. 



Glen
666.128POLAR::RICHARDSONI Am Keroque!!Sun Mar 03 1996 02:561
    Sammy Baby! You'll get used to it. I insist.
666.129SCASS1::BARBER_ASmelly cat, it's not your faultSun Mar 03 1996 15:211
    Too funny!
666.130BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Mar 04 1996 12:379
    
    	Rolling!!
    
    	Calm down, Sam ... my uncle calls me by my middle name, Michael
    	[or Mike], and I don't mind.
    
    	Granted, Michael is a much better name than Sam, so I'm start-
    	ing to see your point.
    
666.131ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 04 1996 13:003
    
    where do these numbnuts come from?? at least in the older days we 
    had reasonably intelligent new noters. 
666.132SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiMon Mar 04 1996 13:424
    .131
    
    Well, Mark, Son of Sam was pretty dumb, it stands to reason Sam would
    be sharp as a marble, too, eh?
666.133CHEFS::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitMon Mar 04 1996 13:488
    .131
    
    I thought that security guard bloke was pretty cool.
    
    Er,sorry that`s too American.
    
    I thought that security bloke was a sound enough bloke.
    
666.134SCASS1::BARBER_ASmelly cat, it's not your faultMon Mar 04 1996 16:293
    Play nice, boys.
    
    Dave Security will be back tomorrow, he has today off.
666.135SX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoMon Mar 04 1996 16:523
    you mean lunchbox?
    
    DougO
666.136BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityMon Mar 04 1996 17:052
	April, how do YOU know he has today off????
666.137SCASS1::BARBER_ASmelly cat, it's not your faultMon Mar 04 1996 17:071
    I have sources.
666.138DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Mon Mar 04 1996 17:127
    
    
    	'pril and lunchbox sittin' in a tree.............  =)
    
    
    	sorry 'pril, couldn't resist.  =)
    
666.139ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 04 1996 17:392
    
    lunchbox aka son of Mailroom.
666.140SCASS1::BARBER_ASmelly cat, it's not your faultMon Mar 04 1996 17:541
    .138 snortgiggle
666.141CSLALL::SECURITYMADHATTATue Mar 05 1996 20:034
    I'm back if anybody missed me. 
    
    			lunchbox
    
666.142BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Mar 05 1996 20:153
    
    	Who are you, and where were you?
    
666.143CSLALL::SECURITYMADHATTATue Mar 05 1996 20:305
    Who am I? I'm dave anthony. These people named me lunchbox for some
    reason. I'm in Boston, Mass. Home of the Bruins who might not make the
    playoffs for the first time since before I was born.
    
    				lunchbox
666.144CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesTue Mar 05 1996 20:331
    See also 337.15.
666.145POLAR::RICHARDSONWalloping Web Snappers!Tue Mar 05 1996 20:352
    Not only that, lunchbox, but you've never even seen your bruins win the
    cup.
666.146BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Mar 05 1996 20:367
    
    	Eesh, that humor meter of yours needs a bit of a sensitivity
    	tweak, Dave.
    
    	I know who you are.  I spent 15+ minutes telling you how to
    	use NEXT UNSEEN the week you started writing in here.
    
666.147CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesTue Mar 05 1996 20:381
    Uh oh....... mebbe I shoulda used a smiley......
666.148BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Mar 05 1996 20:393
    
    	Dave's pretty sharp ... he'll figure it out.
    
666.149NOT mall securityCSLALL::SECURITYMADHATTATue Mar 05 1996 20:448
    I remember you instructing me on the finer aspects of next unseen,
    which is why I couldn't understand why you asked.
    As far as the Bruins, I really thought they were going to do it in '90.
    Best record, killed the habs, etc. it wasn't too cool when they got
    swept.
    
    				lunchbox
    
666.150POLAR::RICHARDSONWalloping Web Snappers!Tue Mar 05 1996 20:563
    Interesting bit of trivia here. In years ending with 6, the habs either
    don't make the playoffs, or the win the cup. They didn't make the
    playoffs 3 times and won the cup 5 times.
666.151BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Mar 05 1996 20:583
    
    	How'd they do in 1806?  1816?  1826?
    
666.152CSLALL::SECURITYMADHATTATue Mar 05 1996 21:102
    I'm really afraid I'll end up like my Grandfather. He lived and died by
    the Red Sox and they never won the Series before he passed on.
666.153USAT05::HALLRGod loves even you!Tue Mar 05 1996 23:3623
    Lunchbox:
    
    maybe you'll live to see the Patriots win the Superbowl.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    NOT!
666.154CSLALL::SECURITYMADHATTAWed Mar 06 1996 00:336
    The Celts have won a few in my short lifetime. That won't happen again
    for a while though. The B's looked so good on paper this year. Kevin
    Stevens was the worst emotional thing to happen to me since I found out
    Santa Claus was my parents.
    
    				Lunchbox
666.155CSLALL::SECURITYMADHATTAWed Mar 06 1996 00:354
    Besides, the Pats are probably going to move because everybody's too
    stingy to give them a real stadium.
    
    				Lunchbox
666.156CHEFS::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitWed Mar 06 1996 10:115
    What`s all this crap about the Celts and the Bruins??
    
    There`s only one team to support,and that`s Reading F.C.
    
    
666.157USAT02::HALLRGod loves even you!Wed Mar 06 1996 12:093
    thatpiece of crap woosey team
    
    :-)
666.158NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Mar 06 1996 13:081
Leap year, people, leap year!
666.159OTOOA::CROOKYour Ad Here!Wed Mar 06 1996 19:391
    Santa Claus is your parent? What kind of bs is that?
666.160CSLALL::SECURITYMADHATTAWed Mar 06 1996 21:371
    The easter bunny, too. Nothing is real anymore.
666.161SX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoWed Mar 06 1996 22:0011
    leap year broke the clock routine in Digital UNIX, which made for lots
    of fun updating my benchmark configuration (no, thank you, I *didn't*
    want to rebuild twenty kernels and schedule twenty reboots and check
    all the blasted dates for consistency.)  
    
    I dunno if it embarassed anybody else, but as one of the drum-beaters
    for quality UNIX at this particular partner site, where we regularly
    hear about some unthinkable limitation in Solaris or HP-UX, this clock
    screwup around leap year *was* embarassing.
    
    DougO
666.162BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Mar 07 1996 13:473
    
    	Hmmm, VMS had no problem with the leap year.
    
666.163ROWLET::AINSLEYLess than 150 kts. is TOO slow!Thu Mar 07 1996 14:053
    My $27 Timex did.  It doesn't know about leap years at all.
    
    Bob
666.164BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Mar 07 1996 14:183
    
    	Should've bought a $40 Casio, Bob.
    
666.165SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiThu Mar 07 1996 14:255
    .161
    
    But we supplied a patch lickety-split.  :-(
    
    My Macs, all four of 'em, had no trouble with leap year.
666.166MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Thu Mar 07 1996 14:502
Hell, Bob, I must have the same Timex you do! Today's March 5th!

666.168GENRAL::RALSTONFugitive from the law of averagesThu Mar 07 1996 14:561
Windows95 handled leap year just fine. Now if I could only load SCSI devices!
666.169ROWLET::AINSLEYLess than 150 kts. is TOO slow!Thu Mar 07 1996 14:578
    re: .166
    
    Jack, No your Timex must be broken.  Today is the 7th, but since mine
    didn't know about leap year, it would have said today is the 8th.
    
    HTH,
    
    Bob
666.170EVMS::MORONEYIn the beginning there was nothing, which exploded...Thu Mar 07 1996 14:586
re .167:

Actually if it doesn't understand Leap Year I'd expect it to think today was
the 8th.  (since it would think Feb. 29 was Mar. 1, etc...)


666.167BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Mar 07 1996 15:007
    
    	5th?
    
    	Are you sure you don't have an Armitron?  8^)
    
    	The Timex should say the 8th.
    
666.171BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Mar 07 1996 15:017
    
    	Yeah, I used "backwards logic" and went the wrong way.
    
    	But it's fixed now.  Not the Timex, but my reply.
    
    	8^)
    
666.172MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Thu Mar 07 1996 15:023
No - it doesn't appear to be broken. It has the same sort of problem
after a month that only has 30 days, as well. It's just that the magnitude 
of the error is smaller.
666.173BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Mar 07 1996 15:065
    
    	Ahah ... sounds like the calendar is fixed at 31 days.
    
    	Analog watch, with rotating "date wheel", yes?
    
666.174ROWLET::AINSLEYLess than 150 kts. is TOO slow!Thu Mar 07 1996 15:075
    re: .172
    
    Jack, does it think that each month has 30 days or 31 days???
    
    Bob
666.175MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Thu Mar 07 1996 15:123
>    	Analog watch, with rotating "date wheel", yes?

But of course!
666.176BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Mar 07 1996 15:188
    
    	There are more months that have 31 days than there are that
    	have 30 days.
    
    	[Oh, and someone PLEASE be so kind as to tell me that the
    	 above statement is wrong.  I haven't heard that "joke" in
    	 awhile.  8^)]
    
666.177BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Mar 07 1996 15:185
    
    	Oh, and Jack ... YUCK.  Analog sucks.
    
    	8^)
    
666.178GENRAL::RALSTONFugitive from the law of averagesThu Mar 07 1996 15:203
My Swiss Army watch thinks that each month has 31 days. Well, actually it
doesn't really think. It is only a watch after all, even though an exceptional
one.
666.179MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Thu Mar 07 1996 15:205
>    	Oh, and Jack ... YUCK.  Analog sucks.

What can I say? I like the sense of security I get each morning when
I wind it.

666.180SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiThu Mar 07 1996 15:275
    .176
    
    Seven have 31 days.  Four have 30 days.  One has 28 or 29 days.
    
    There now, are you happy?
666.181PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Mar 07 1996 15:292
  i thought he meant that thing about how 11 have 30 days.
666.182SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiThu Mar 07 1996 15:3013
    .177
    
    > Analog sucks.
    
    Except where my computer is concerned, I don't care whether it's
    12:28:43 or just a couple of minutes before half past 12.  Analog gives
    me the freedom not to worry about seconds.
    
    Also, getting an approximate idea of the time from an analog watch is
    easier and quicker than reading the digits on a digital one.
    
    'Sides, us old farts just happen to LIKE analog watches.  Mine doesn't
    even have a calendar mechanism in it, just the time of day.
666.183SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiThu Mar 07 1996 15:303
    .181
    
    Ah.  Humor impaired I am, yes indeed, humor impaired.
666.184CHEFS::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitThu Mar 07 1996 15:305
    I had to alter my macho casio "G-Shock" watch.
    
    The only reason I say that is to try and impress that I have a G-Shock
    watch. Which is a bit sad,really.
    
666.185BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Mar 07 1996 15:3316
    
    	RE: Binder/Diane
    
    	Yes, that's what I meant.  "There are just as many with 30
    	days as there are with 31 days", since all the months that
    	have 31 days also have 30 days, but with 1 extra day added
    	in for fun.
    
    
    	RE: Analog watches
    
    	Eesh.  I have a Casio digital G-Shock dual time stopwatch
    	chronometer dual alarm 200m water resistant lighted watch
    	with hourly chime.  And probably a couple other features
    	that I don't even know about.  8^)
    
666.186CHEFS::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitThu Mar 07 1996 15:458
    Shawn,
    
    Which G-Shock do you have??
    
    I have the altimeter/baromoter one with the single sensor.
    
    I haven`t got a clue how it works,mind.
    
666.187BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Mar 07 1996 16:038
    
    	Barometer?  Ummm, no ... you're worse than I am, Stu.
    
    	8^)
    
    	It's a monstrosity of a watch, with all the features I listed
    	a few replies back.
    
666.188CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesThu Mar 07 1996 16:042
    Watches are like guns.  They have an onverse relationship to one's
    manhood.  Big watch, little willie.
666.189BSS::PROCTOR_RWallet full of eelskinsThu Mar 07 1996 16:066
    >  Watches are like guns.  They have an onverse relationship to one's
    >    manhood.  Big watch, little willie.
    
    
    	well, gee, my watch is so small it only has the number "12" on it,
    and only one hand! self winding, of course.
666.190NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Mar 07 1996 16:081
Howcum women's watches are smaller than men's?
666.191BSS::PROCTOR_RWallet full of eelskinsThu Mar 07 1996 16:094
    > Howcum women's watches are smaller than men's?
    
    smaller wrists. less time on their hands to work all the stupid watch
    gadgets. more sensibility.
666.192PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Mar 07 1996 16:092
 .188  aagagagag.  you know, there could be some truth to that. ;>
666.193infinite willieHBAHBA::HAASfloor,chair,couch,bedThu Mar 07 1996 16:143
>    Big watch, little willie.

I don't wear a watch
666.194POLAR::RICHARDSONWalloping Web Snappers!Thu Mar 07 1996 16:153
    |Ah.  Humor impaired I am, yes indeed, humor impaired.
    
    Ah yes, The Grim Hare Binder.
666.195POLAR::RICHARDSONWalloping Web Snappers!Thu Mar 07 1996 16:221
    What does it mean when a woman wears a very small watch?
666.196WAHOO::LEVESQUEthe dangerous typeThu Mar 07 1996 16:231
    Ovaries like you read about.
666.197CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesThu Mar 07 1996 16:242
    Well, okay, as long as they don;t flaunt them in my face, with impunity
    no less.  
666.198POLAR::RICHARDSONWalloping Web Snappers!Thu Mar 07 1996 16:541
    {chortle}
666.199BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityThu Mar 07 1996 17:565
| <<< Note 666.196 by WAHOO::LEVESQUE "the dangerous type" >>>

| Ovaries like you read about.

	*I* have never read about ovaries. :-)
666.200CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Thu Mar 07 1996 17:563

 Leap snarf
666.201{echo}BSS::PROCTOR_RWallet full of eelskinsThu Mar 07 1996 18:063
    >     What does it mean when a woman wears a very small watch?
    
    bring a 2x4 on the date...
666.202CHEFS::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitFri Mar 08 1996 08:594
    I may have a big watch,but I also have big feet.
    
    So what does that mean??
    
666.203BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityFri Mar 08 1996 09:268

	That you have a big.....




watch and feet.
666.204CHEFS::HANDLEY_IBlimey! that's good!Fri Mar 08 1996 10:495
    
    It means you have difficulty buying shoes.
    
    
    I.
666.205BSS::PROCTOR_RWallet full of eelskinsFri Mar 08 1996 13:543
    >     I may have a big watch,but I also have big feet.
    
    is your nose cold and wet?
666.206BSS::PROCTOR_RWallet full of eelskinsFri Mar 08 1996 13:555
    If so, do you like Kibbles'n Bits, or Gravy Train?
    
    
    either way, Lay Jeno here we come!