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Title:Soapbox. Just Soapbox.
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Created:Thu Nov 17 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
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641.0. "The rest of the Bunch" by BOXORN::HAYS (Some things are worth dying for) Fri Jan 26 1996 12:52

American Tradition,  Green,  Libertarian,  Natural Law and Veterans
Industrial Parties.

Also Independent Candidates,  not part of any parties.

Discuss
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641.1MKOTS3::JMARTINBye Bye Mrs. Dougherty!Fri Jan 26 1996 13:342
    Do the natural law people want us to prance around nakid and smoke
    weed?
641.2CONSLT::MCBRIDEpack light, keep low, move fast, reload oftenFri Jan 26 1996 13:341
    I'm in!
641.3LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Fri Jan 26 1996 13:458
    you know, something Our Jack said yesterday caught my attention.
    he said that he'd only vote for a woman like Maggie Thatcher for
    prez of the u.s.a...or that's what i think he said, i'm never sure.
    
    and it occurred to me that yes, indeed, a serious female presidential
    candidate's politics would have to be to the right of center - she
    would have to be a conservative.  otherwise, she'd be laughed right
    out of the political arena.
641.4so what else is new ?GAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseFri Jan 26 1996 14:0110
    
      You just figured that out ?  Everybody's been saying that for years.
    
      There's BIG opportunities for reactionary women.  If Dole gets the
     nomination, he might well pick Gov. Whitman of Joisey, the taxcut
     lady, for veep.  No ideological problem like with Powell, attack
     Clinton's base, add geographic balance.  In a debate, she'd leave
     Al Bore bleeding on the stage.
    
      bb
641.5LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Fri Jan 26 1996 14:119
    |You just figured that out ?  Everybody's been saying that for years.
    
    i didn't know that.
    
    |There's BIG opportunities for reactionary women.
    
    reactionary?  or just conservative?  dole pick a woman as his
    v.p.?  never happen.  not that i wouldn't be delighted if he did.  
    
641.6My first choice has always been Jeane KirkpatrickHIGHD::FLATMANGive2TheMegan&KennethCollegeFundFri Jan 26 1996 15:1510
    RE: .3

>    ...a serious female presidential
>    candidate's politics would have to be to the right of center - she
>    would have to be a conservative.  

    To loosely quote Spock, "There's an ancient Vulcan saying, 'Only Nixon
    could go to China.'"

    -- Dave
641.7POLAR::RICHARDSONCaptain DunselFri Jan 26 1996 15:243
    What about Benazir Bhutto?
    
    A woman ruling in a man's world. She's amazing.
641.8SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIToo many politicians, not enough warriors.Fri Jan 26 1996 15:448
    
    
    >My first choice has always been Jeane Kirkpatrick
    
    Mine too...
    
    She's always been a kick-ass kinda person...
    
641.9DECLNE::REESEMy REALITY check bouncedFri Jan 26 1996 16:316
    I wouldn't be so sure Dole wouldn't consider a female candidate
    for VP.  When there was talk that Bush might dump Quayle during
    the last election, Elizabeth Dole's name came up quite a few times
    as a possible candidate for the #2 slot :-)
    
    
641.10LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Fri Jan 26 1996 16:361
    now if they'd just flip the ticket so she's on top...
641.11GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERbe nice, be happyFri Jan 26 1996 16:387
    
    
    RE: .10  ooh-er
    
    
    
    RE: .9  Karen, Dole's no Packwood....... :')
641.12ALFCSSREG::BROWNCommon Sense Isn'tFri Jan 26 1996 16:493
    at least packwood didn't DROWN anybody...
    
    Where's Alf Landen when the world really needs him...
641.13ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunFri Jan 26 1996 17:392
    
    <---- I believe he has his own TV show now.
641.14<----<---AIMHI::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaMon Jan 29 1996 13:421
    Got cought eating a tabby cate pie?:)
641.15Harry Browne on the Campaign TrailDOCTP::KELLERHarry Browne For President 1996Tue Jan 30 1996 14:28147
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                 On the Campaign Trail with Harry Browne

Washington, D.C., Tuesday, January 16

4pm: In Washington for two TV shows. The first is "Pork," a somewhat
anti-political show on the America's Talking cable network. Today's
1-hour show features lesser-known Presidential candidates. There are
four candidates but, fortunately, host J.D. Klein focuses on me. I'm on
alone for 20 minutes, with call-in questions; the four candidates are
on for 20 minutes; and then I alone for the last 20 minutes. It goes
very well -- with respectful callers asking good questions.

Washington, Wednesday, January 17

8am: I'm on "Mitchells in the Morning" (a husband and wife team) on the
National Empowerment Television cable network. The Mitchells are
obviously very libertarian, and the 1-hour show goes very well. Only at
the end of the show do I realize that Dan Mitchell is Daniel J.
Mitchell of the Heritage Foundation, who writes frequently for The Wall
Street Journal, National Review, and other publications. He says he
enjoyed "Why Government Doesn't Work," and I suggest some publications
that might be glad for him to review it.

10:30am: At the Cato Institute to meet with Stephen Moore, who says
he's going to approach a major publication to let him review "Why
Government Doesn't Work." He's an indefatigable writer -- who seems to
have a lengthy article somewhere almost every week. Stephen is
enthusiastic about the book and the campaign, and provides a lot of
information on good contacts and media possibilities.

12 noon: Pamela and I stick around Cato to hear Phil Gramm announce his
new economic program -- wondering whether he's going to try to steal
our Libertarian thunder. I'm astounded at his proposal to fight big
government: in his second term he will slow government growth to just
the rate of inflation. Even his claque didn't applaud that one. I
obtained a printed copy of his plan because I thought I must be getting
too old to hear correctly. This is how the great hope of Republican
libertarians will save us from big government?

Nashville, Wednesday, January 17

8pm: Pamela and I are home for 24 hours -- to catch up on
correspondence, laundry, and other assorted chores, and to remind the
dog and cats that we pay for their food.

Memphis, Thursday, January 18

Midnight: Here for the National Affairs Briefing, a Christian political
forum, where I'll be speaking tomorrow night. Tonight I have a midnight
radio show by phone with Tom Kahm on KSFO in San Francisco. The show
goes well but the connection is bad, and after half an hour we give up
and reschedule it for tomorrow night.

Memphis, Friday, January 19

A day of radio talk shows. The Mike Fleming Show is a brief 10-minute
interview, but it goes well -- with Fleming asking, "Is there room in
the Libertarian Party for me?" Then Jan Mickelson in Des Moines.
Throughout the 1-hour interview there are political ads for Lugar,
Forbes, Buchanan, and other GOP candidates. Their ads make a perfect
foil for my offer to the listeners: "Give up your favorite federal
program and you'll never again have to pay income tax." Next an
in-studio interview with Diane Hampton in Memphis. I'm tired as I enter
the studio but, as usually happens, I'm fired up the moment the show
starts. We have a very good 1-hour interview. She asks Pamela whether
I'm always so keyed up.

9pm: The National Affairs Briefing. Because of the near-blizzard
weather, everyone is disappointed at the turnout. The promoters
expected 10,000; we hoped for 5,000; but the actual crowd is 1,500 -
2,000. Newt Gingrich is so disappointed, he refuses to give his speech.
I'm preceded on the platform by Richard Lugar, a fire-breathing
preacher, and Alan Keyes -- with each of the three turning up the
volume another notch. I use a lower-key approach, and I get a good
reception -- interrupted with applause a few times -- but it's far from
my best speech. I'm happy to find that most everyone here wants a lot
less government than we have now -- but they still think Phil Gramm,
Pat Buchanan, or Alan Keyes will deliver it. Being here didn't
accomplish all we expected, but it helped -- and I'm glad to have the
practice speaking to large crowds.

Midnight: On again with Tom Kahm in San Francisco. He's an ex-cop, and
he agrees with me on everything except the War on Drugs. Even there,
however, he isn't obsessed with the topic, he respects my viewpoint,
and we don't get stuck on the one issue. Most of the time we talk about
repealing the income tax, privatizing Social Security, and other hot
issues.

Memphis, Saturday, January 20

7:35am: When do we get to sleep around here? I am up for another radio
show by telephone -- this one with economist Murray Sabrin in New
Jersey. Murray is a libertarian (and maybe a Libertarian) and very
supportive. But doesn't he know it's Un-Libertarian and a sacrilege to
the Party of Principle to get up so early on Saturday?.

1pm: A half-hour meeting with Howard Phillips, head of the Taxpayers
Party. He worked in the Nixon administration and quit when he realized
that no one in the upper echelons cared about the issues; their only
concern was reelection. Howard is a friendly, likable man -- more
libertarian than conservative. He is rabidly anti-politician and thinks
conservative politicians deceive their supporters: "The conservative
leaders say the right things, pat people on the head, hand them a
six-pack, and then sell them down the river." We discuss our common
interests and identify our few disagreements on principles. We agree to
look for ways to further our common goals.

>From here, we head for Vermont, New Hampshire, New York, and Washington. . . .

-- 
Harry Browne for President - http://www.HarryBrowne96.org/
4094 Majestic Lane, Suite 240, Fairfax, VA 22033



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641.16The Brady Bunch, that is...POWDML::BUCKLEYIntl. Year of the Coaster -- 1996Tue Jan 30 1996 15:301
    Marcia is clearly the best one out of the Bunch
641.17MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Fri Feb 02 1996 19:053
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