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Title:Soapbox. Just Soapbox.
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616.0. "Personality Test" by BIGQ::SILVA (EAT, Pappa, EAT!) Fri Dec 08 1995 19:19



	A friend of mine gave me this hppt address, which checks to see what
type of personality you have. I thought it might be good to see what kind of
personalities we all have. So if you want to take it, and post your results,
then have at it! The address is:

                     http://sunsite.unc.edu/jembin/mb.pl




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616.1Here are my results!BIGQ::SILVAEAT, Pappa, EAT!Fri Dec 08 1995 19:2093
Keirsey Temperament Test Results

Note- for some types the labels on the graphs are reversed

This is a known bug. The type summary is correct, as are the percentages; if they conflict with
the graph labels, ignore them.

EI: 2 out of 10
Introvert+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+Extrovert
                   |
                  20%
SN: 12 out of 20
iNtuition+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+Sensation
                                       |
                                      60%
TF: 11 out of 20
Feeling  +----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+Thinking
                                    |
                                   55%
JP: 8 out of 20
Perceiving+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+Judging
                             |
                            40%

Your Jungian Personality type is ENFJ Cumulative data about the personality types
on the net 

CGI Jungian Personality Test 
Jonathan Magid, SunSITE Admin, jem@sunsite.unc.edu

Profile:  ENFJ
Revision:  1.3
Date of Revision:  30 Jun 94
=============================================================================


            Extraverted iNtuitive Feeling Judging

           by Joe Butt (jabutt@sacam.oren.ortn.edu)


ENFJs are the benevolent 'pedagogues' of humanity.  They have tremendous
charisma by which many are drawn into their nurturant tutelage and/or grand 
schemes.  Many ENFJs have tremendous power to manipulate others with their 
phenomenal interpersonal skills and unique salesmanship.  But it's usually 
not meant as manipulation -- ENFJs generally believe in their dreams, and 
see themselves as helpers and enablers, which they usually are. 

ENFJs are global learners.  They see the big picture.  The ENFJs focus is
expansive.  Some can juggle an amazing number of responsibilities or projects 
simultaneously.  Many ENFJs have tremendous entrepreneurial ability. 

ENFJs are, by definition, Js, with whom we associate organization and
decisiveness.  But they don't resemble the SJs or even the NTJs in
organization of the environment nor occasional recalcitrance.  ENFJs are
organized in the arena of interpersonal affairs.  Their offices may or may
not be cluttered, but their conclusions (reached through feelings) about
people and motives are drawn much more quickly and are more resilient than
those of their NFP counterparts. 

ENFJs know and appreciate people. Like most NFs, (and Feelers in general),
they are apt to neglect themselves and their own needs for the needs of
others.  They have thinner psychological boundaries than most, and are at risk
for being hurt or even abused by less sensitive people.  ENFJs often take on
more of the burdens of others than they can bear.  

TRADEMARK:  -- 'The first shall be last' --

This refers to the open-door policy of ENFJs.  One ENFJ colleague always
welcomes me into his office regardless of his own circumstances. If
another person comes to the door, he allows them to interrupt our
conversation with their need.  While discussing that need, the phone rings
and he stops to answer it.  Others drop in with a 'quick question.' I
finally get up, go to my office and use the call waiting feature on the
telephone.  When he hangs up, I have his undivided attention! 

Famous ENFJs:

David, King of Israel
U.S. Presidents:
     Abraham Lincoln
William Cullen Bryant, poet
Abraham Maslow, psychologist and proponent of 'self-actualization'
Ross Perot
Elizabeth Dole
Francois Mitterand
Bob Saget, "America's Funniest Home Video's", "Full House"
Dick Van Dyke
Andy Griffith
James Garner
William Aramony, former president of United Way
Brenda Vaccaro 

616.2TROOA::COLLINSDreaming on our dimes...Fri Dec 08 1995 19:223
    
    Anyone ever take that test the Church Of Scientology offers?
    
616.3MPGS::MARKEYNo thanks, I already don't have oneFri Dec 08 1995 19:3322
    
    No, however... (and I'm pretty sure I told this story before):

    I had just left a session at Syncro Sound on Newbury Street
    in Boston, and I had my Steinberger bass slung over my shoulder.
    The Steinberger is a strange little bass that looks something
    like a black canoe paddle. Instead of the usual hard-shell
    case like one would have with a Fender-style bass, the Steinberger
    uses a suspicious looking cloth bag...

    So, this guy walks up to me and says "Hi, would you like to
    take a free psychological test offered by the Church of
    Scientology? Oh, and by the way, what's in that bag".

    Looking as evil as I can, I replied "A high power rifle with
    a laser night scope. Now what was that you were saying about
    a psychological test?"

    Fortunately, he went away at high speed before I even finished
    the second sentence.

    -b
616.4SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Fri Dec 08 1995 19:3615
    .2
    
    Yes.
    
    It's called the Oxford Capacity Analysis.  After correlating my results
    with those of more than a dozen others whom I knew to have taken it, I
    arrived at the conclusion that it is very cleverly designed to show
    that the subject is overall a remarkably competent individual but could
    really use some help with communication skills.
    
    Coincidentally, the very first course offered by the Church of
    Scientology, the Hubbard Apprentice Scientologist course, is intended
    to improve the student's communication skills.  This course is even
    referred to by scientologists as the comm course.
    
616.5EVMS::MORONEYOperation Foot BulletFri Dec 08 1995 19:517
The scientology test is designed for the test taker to say "Oh you seem
to have a few problems, and the Church of Scientology can help you out"

Someone posted a "cheat sheet" for their test on the alt.religion.scientology
newsgroup a while ago that's supposed to get an interesting reaction from them.

(be very careful when dealing with them  They can be nasty)
616.6BIGQ::SILVAEAT, Pappa, EAT!Fri Dec 08 1995 19:5315
| <<< Note 616.4 by SMURF::BINDER "Eis qui nos doment uescimur." >>>

| It's called the Oxford Capacity Analysis.  After correlating my results
| with those of more than a dozen others whom I knew to have taken it, I
| arrived at the conclusion that it is very cleverly designed to show
| that the subject is overall a remarkably competent individual but could
| really use some help with communication skills.

	If the test had those results for you, would it show Jack Martin to be
an EXCELLENT communicator? ;-)



Glen

616.7TROOA::COLLINSDreaming on our dimes...Fri Dec 08 1995 20:1416
    
    Brian,
    
    I *know* what a Steinberger looks like, tyvm.  ;^)
    
    Dick,
    
    Yeah, that's about what they told me (hey, I was 17, and this cute
    chick started talking to me on the street.  What was I to do? :^).
    
    They said "We want you to understand that this is not *our* opinion of
    you, it's *your* opinion of you, and frankly, it's pretty low."
    
    Then came the sales pitch.  Then came the vapour trail as I sped outta
    there.
    
616.8MPGS::MARKEYNo thanks, I already don't have oneFri Dec 08 1995 20:238
    
    >  I *know* what a Steinberger looks like, tyvm.  ;^)
    
    Well of course you do, !Joan, being a edgeacated cosmopolotonite
    and all, but I figgered for your average box rabble, a bit more
    background info was in order...
    
    -b
616.9TROOA::COLLINSDreaming on our dimes...Fri Dec 08 1995 20:243
    
    natch.   ;^)
    
616.10MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Sat Dec 09 1995 01:485
> (be very careful when dealing with them  They can be nasty)


Ahah! "Challengers", eh? Please advise as to how I can lure them.

616.11TROOA::COLLINSDreaming on our dimes...Sat Dec 09 1995 14:235
    
    Simply walk past their offices with an open-minded look on your face.
    
    They'll approach you.
     
616.12BIGQ::SILVAEAT, Pappa, EAT!Sat Dec 09 1995 23:452
	So...anybody take the test?
616.13DRDAN::KALIKOWDIGITAL=DEC; Reclaim the Name&amp;Glory!Sun Dec 10 1995 00:069
    Try to keep up, eh Glen?  YOU took it, and you showed us the results in
    .1!!
    
    Sheesh.
    
    Where did YOU score on cluefulness??
    
    :-)
    
616.14POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Tummy TimeSun Dec 10 1995 02:095
    
    I took it back in 1993, I think.  I was an ENFP.  I've got the printout
    somewhere, I'll look for it.
    
    
616.15BIGQ::SILVAEAT, Pappa, EAT!Sun Dec 10 1995 19:203

	I'm sorry, Dan. It's hard for me to keep up. No mind ya know... :-)
616.16TEST thisCSC32::C_BENNETTMon Dec 11 1995 12:254
    took the dam test, clicked on the score test icon and got a 
    ERROR server cannot serve etc...   
    
    Screw the test
616.17the dog ate it ?GAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseMon Dec 11 1995 12:344
    
      I am unable to detect any signs of my own personality
    
      bb
616.18WAHOO::LEVESQUEsmooth, fast, bright and playfulMon Dec 11 1995 12:451
    Obviously it was stolen by a stealthy team of Bonapartiste wannabes.
616.19Already Had Taken Briggs-MyersSTRATA::BARBIERIMon Dec 11 1995 13:2313
      Hi Glen,
    
        I took it awhile back.  I don't understand your score though.
    
        I came out:
    			Extrovert:	 7
    			Intuition:	41
    			Feeling:	27
    			Judging:	26
    
        So, I am an ENFJ as well and with a really high intuitive score.
    
    							Tony
616.20SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Dec 11 1995 14:348
    
    
    	Since my answers sometimes crossed over each other to different
    types of personalities, I was given an "X" (no definite personality).
    Oh well.....I never claimed to be predicatable...:)
    
    
    jim
616.21BIGQ::SILVAEAT, Pappa, EAT!Mon Dec 11 1995 14:343

	At least we know who the mysterious Mr. X is now! :-)
616.22MROA::YANNEKISMon Dec 11 1995 16:368
    
    
    I'm an ISTP with the "P" score basically off the chart.  I found this
    stuff fascinating.  Especially when I was told most ISTPs drop out of
    high school to drive a truck or something like that.
    
    Greg (on 3 degrees with a lottery win dream of a 4th)
    
616.23BIGQ::SILVAEAT, Pappa, EAT!Mon Dec 11 1995 17:473

	Greg, you drive a truck?
616.24MROA::YANNEKISMon Dec 11 1995 18:4511
    
>	Greg, you drive a truck?
    
    Only when we rented the U-Haul to move; I only took out one tree
    branch!  Actually I love to drive and am planning on getting my pilot's
    license one day.  Fortunately somewhere on the way to the ACME driving
    school engineering and math got in the way.
                                  
    Greg
    
     
616.25NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Dec 11 1995 18:464
>             Actually I love to drive and am planning on getting my pilot's
>    license one day.

Hint: you don't need a pilot's license to drive.
616.26BIGQ::SILVAEAT, Pappa, EAT!Mon Dec 11 1995 18:4713
| <<< Note 616.24 by MROA::YANNEKIS >>>



| Only when we rented the U-Haul to move; 

	Then I think the test had you pegged correctly...... :-)



Glen


616.27GAVEL::JANDROWGreen-Eyed Lady...Mon Dec 11 1995 19:127
    
    off the top of my head, i can't remember what i scored when i last took
    this test (in a speech class, of all places).  but i do recall being
    told that what i was was the 1 of the 2 most common combinations and of
    a class of about 25 people, i was the only one with either combo...
    
    
616.28PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Dec 11 1995 19:294
  according to the test results, i am "not one to be trifled with",
  and neither is Steve Martin.  but we all knew that about Steve.

616.29GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERRIP Amos, you will be missedMon Dec 11 1995 19:303
    
    
    It's cuz yer Sassy, like I was sayin the other day.....
616.30DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Mon Dec 11 1995 19:485
    
    
    	Mine was pretty close on most things.... I'm a
    	ENFP - Extroverted iNtuitive Feeling Perceiving.
    
616.31If it's not smart enough to be a lawyer...MPGS::MARKEYI'm feeling ANSI and ISOlatedMon Dec 11 1995 19:556
    
    Take a sack, empty it of any useful contents, pack it chock
    full of the excrement of farm animals, send it to BU,
    and VOILA, you have a psychologist.
    
    -b
616.32BIGQ::SILVAEAT, Pappa, EAT!Mon Dec 11 1995 20:027
| <<< Note 616.31 by MPGS::MARKEY "I'm feeling ANSI and ISOlated" >>>


| Take a sack, empty it of any useful contents, pack it chock full of the 
| excrement of farm animals, send it to BU, and VOILA, you have a psychologist.

	I thought you were gonna tell us we would have your personality... ;-)
616.33MPGS::MARKEYI'm feeling ANSI and ISOlatedMon Dec 11 1995 20:054
    
    Well, maybe if you left the "send it to BU" part off... :-)
    
    -b
616.34EVMS::MORONEYOperation Foot BulletMon Dec 11 1995 22:044
re .10:

What do you mean "lure"?  If you want a free personality test or a not-so-free
brainwashing see .11.
616.35USAT02::SANDERRMon Dec 11 1995 23:453
    when I took the test it came back and said I was
    
    Not Roger!
616.36SMURF::WALTERSTue Dec 12 1995 11:111
    Gee Mr b, I thought Chomsky was your hero?
616.37TROOA::COLLINSDon't do what Donny Don't does!Tue Dec 12 1995 17:2862
Profile:  INFJ
Revision:  1.4
Date of Revision:  4 Aug 94
=============================================================================

              Introverted iNtuitive Feeling Judging

             by Joe Butt (jabutt@sacam.oren.ortn.edu)

Beneath the quiet exterior, INFJs hold deep convictions about the weightier
matters of life.  Those who are activists -- INFJs gravitate toward such a
role -- are there for the cause, not for personal glory or political power.

INFJs are champions of the oppressed and downtrodden.  They often are found
in the wake of an emergency, rescuing those who are in acute distress.  INFJs
may fantasize about getting revenge on those who victimize the defenseless.
The concept of 'poetic justice' is appealing to the INFJ.

"There's something rotten in Denmark."  Accurately suspicious about others'
motives, INFJs are not easily led.  These are the people that you can rarely
fool any of the time.  Though affable and sympathetic to most, INFJs are
selective about their friends.  Such a friendship is a symbiotic bond that
transcends mere words.

INFJs have a knack for fluency in language and facility in communication.  In
addition, nonverbal sensitivity enables the INFJ to know and be known by
others intimately.

Writing, counseling, public service and even politics are areas where INFJs
frequently find their niche.

Famous INFJs:

Nathan, prophet of Israel
Aristophanes
Chaucer
Goethe
Robert Burns, Scottish poet
U.S. Presidents:
     Martin Van Buren
     James Earl "Jimmy" Carter
Nathaniel Hawthorne, author, poet
Fanny Crosby, (blind) hymnist
Mother Teresa of Calcutta
Fred McMurray ("My Three Sons", various movies)
Shirley Temple Black, child actress, ambassador
Martin Luther King, Jr., civil rights leader, martyr
James Reston, newspaper reporter
Shirley McClain, actress (_Sweet Charity_, ...)
Piers Anthony, author ("Xanth" series)
Michael Landon, actor ("Highway to Heaven," "Little House on the Prairie")
Tom Selleck, actor ("Magnum, P. I.," _Mr. Baseball_)
Oprah Winfrey, talk show host
John Katz, critic, author
Paul Stookey, folk singer (Peter, Paul and Mary)
Angela Lansbury, actress ("Murder, She Wrote")
U. S. Senator Carol Moseley-Braun (D-IL)
Richard Gere, actor (Pretty Woman_, _Sommersby_)
Billy Crystal, actor, comedian
Carrie Fisher, actress (_Star Wars_)

616.38BIGQ::SILVAEAT, Pappa, EAT!Tue Dec 12 1995 18:0210

	!Joan.... is there a difference between Angela Landsbury and Mother
Theresa? You could fit both those. :-)

	From what I know of ya, your personality fits a lot of the test. Now,
how close do you think it came?


Glen
616.39MPGS::MARKEYI'm feeling ANSI and ISOlatedTue Dec 12 1995 18:0813
    
    > Gee Mr b, I thought Chomsky was your hero?
    
    In case you haven't noticed, I don't particularly like communists
    either, and Chomsky's about as red as Santa Claus. But I admire
    Chomsky's work, particularly in the area of computational linguistics
    (an area of study he more or less defined.)
    
    Although it's too bad he hangs out with that commie morning prick on
    WBCN...
    
    -b
    
616.40TROOA::COLLINSSparky DoobsterTue Dec 12 1995 19:053
    
    How close?  Ummm...pretty close.  Classic liberal I guess, eh?  ;^) 
    
616.41BIGQ::SILVAEAT, Pappa, EAT!Tue Dec 12 1995 19:113

	I like that in a man.... ;-)
616.42SMURF::WALTERSTue Dec 12 1995 20:353
    616.39
    
    So your hero Chomsky is both a commie and sack of chite?  
616.43Scores Important TooLUDWIG::BARBIERIWed Dec 13 1995 12:0627
      The people who have mentioned their results are overall not
      like the average.  Only 25% are intuitives.
    
      Joan, your profile is one of the two least common as there
      are more extroverts than introverts and more sensers than
      intuitives.
    
      One thing that I think is also important are the scores.
      For example, I only scored a 7 extrovert which is pretty small,
      but I also scored a 41 intuitive which is really high.  In
      fact, among ~50 people who took the test, I had the highest
      intuitive score.
    
      The preference is important, but the score says a lot too.
    
      I think this stuff is really interesting.  What it said was
      right on with much of who I am as a person.  I know some seem
      to discard this as some 'psycho-crap' or something along those
      lines, but I see it as a first order approximation of personality
      types.  I'm sure its all more complex than this, but it serves
      as a neat estimate.
    
      I don't really understand some of the criticism of this I guess
      because I fail to see a rational explanation that serves as
      basis for the criticism!
    
    						Tony
616.44TROOA::COLLINSSparky DoobsterWed Dec 13 1995 12:127
    
    I like to watch.
    
    
    
    Name that movie, trivia buffs.  ;^)
    
616.45SMURF::WALTERSWed Dec 13 1995 12:1814
    
      > Rational explanation that serves as basis for the criticism!
    
    Tests are normalized on large populations and provide, as you say a
    first-order approximation.  On an individual bases, there is too much
    scope for variance between how we perceive ourselves, how whe think
    others perceive us, and what the test results say.
    
    Too much variance leads to cognitive dissonance - so people naturally
    mistrust the test scores over their own perceptions. (And rightly so.)
    
    Colin
     
    
616.46SMURF::MSCANLONinspiteofmyrageiamstilljustaratinacageWed Dec 13 1995 12:214
    re: .44
    
    Being There.
    
616.47TROOA::COLLINSSparky DoobsterWed Dec 13 1995 12:265
    
    .46
    
    Oooo, correct!  Except, that's not the movie I was thinking of.  :^)
    
616.48Didn't we do this before?MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Wed Dec 13 1995 12:273
Actually, it was -

	"I like to watch, Eve."
616.49An excellent MovieDOCTP::KELLERHarry Browne For President 1996Wed Dec 13 1995 15:407
   > <<< Note 616.44 by TROOA::COLLINS "Sparky Doobster" >>>
   >
   >     I like to watch.
    
    Being There
    
    --Geoff
616.50TROOA::COLLINSSparky DoobsterWed Dec 13 1995 15:485
    
    :^)
    
    No, it was `Body Double'.
    
616.51CBHVAX::CBHLager LoutThu Dec 14 1995 11:464
I had a look at the personality test.  What a load of bollocks.  It claimed 
that I'm a total extrovert, can't get much more inaccurate than that.

Chris.
616.52Check again, maybeSTOWOA::PJOHNSONaut disce, aut discedeThu Dec 14 1995 12:508
re: Note 616.51 

Note that the legends on the axes may be reversed. Check out the
results again to see what your type was.

The test showed me to be an ISTJ, which is absolutely accurate, IMO.

Pete
616.53CBHVAX::CBHLager LoutThu Dec 14 1995 12:547
>Note that the legends on the axes may be reversed. Check out the
>results again to see what your type was.

I checked, as I was amazed at how inaccurate the results were.  The legends 
hadn't been reversed...

Chris.
616.54SMURF::WALTERSThu Dec 14 1995 13:562
    Well, there's no way you're an extrovert Chris.  Anyone who wears
    a duvet must be retiring.
616.55CBHVAX::CBHLager LoutThu Dec 14 1995 14:037
>    Well, there's no way you're an extrovert Chris.  Anyone who wears
>    a duvet must be retiring.

or at least bloody cold.  Anyway, the duvet has returned to its rightful place 
on the bed, now (which is where I feel I should be, I'm knackered)

Chris.
616.56I am not a nerdette!!DECLNE::REESEMy REALITY check bouncedThu Dec 14 1995 14:5549
    This personality test seems similar to one DEC was sponsoring in
    the early 80's, but the course I took was Social Style Sales
    Strategies.  The course was designed and facilitated by a gentleman
    named Jack O'Connell.
    
    This course also categorized people into 4 categories, but O'Connell's
    theory was everyone has a primary mode and a backup mode.  People were
    classified as Drivers, Expressives, Amiables and Analyticals...the
    concept being that most true sales people were Driver/Drivers....
    although many in my class were Driver/Expressives. (Driver still being
    the predominant part of their personaltiy). The only Driver/Driver
    in the class was a sales rep from NYC (he fit the profile shown on
    the film right on). :-)
    
    Based on films shown and what I read in the course material, I was
    sure I was an Expressive/Amiable.  O'Connell said it was unusual
    for a person to have their backup mode the same as their primary
    mode.
    
    The profiles filled out on each person was from people inside DEC
    and friends outside DEC.
    
    I turned out to be an Analytical/Analytical; this concept horrified
    me because the A/A in the film was the sterotype nerd.  He wore
    plaid polyester pants (highwaters), white patent leather belt and
    shoes, plastic pocket protector, crew cut and black horn-rimmed
    glasses ;-}  Since half the class was female, we told Jack he
    needed to update the film, although I don't how a female nerd
    would dress ;-}
    
    O'Connell said I didn't fit the A/A profile because I was an active
    and vocal participant in the classroom (evidently most A/A's are
    very introverted).  The only other A/A in the class never opened his
    mouth the entire week unless he was called on to do so.
    
    O'Connell gave me another packet and told me to have different
    people fill out the questionaires; it still came back A/A :-(
    O'Connell called me when the second set of results came in, he
    finally got me to laugh about it because he said being analytical
    isn't bad; he said the coursework I'd handed in definitely indicated
    I was analytical, but he thought there was an expressive side to my
    personality that he saw in the classroom, but evidently the computer
    (and others) saw me differently.
    
    Wish I'd had contact with the Lager Lout back in those days, "load
    of bollocks" was how I felt after participating in the class!!