Conference back40::soapbox

    
    
    yup!
    	"I do exactly what my rice crispies tell me!"
    
    

    
    >Have you seen any interesting bumper stickers?
    
    Nope.
    

>    Have you seen any interesting bumper stickers?



   Why yes, thank you, I certainly have..

    The other day I was on my way home and I saw a car that was plastered
    with bumper stickers.
    
    What I read left me very confused.  They had several stickers saying
    things like "Racism Sucks", "Amnesty International", "Try Peace", "Save
    The Whales" and others of that bent.  Then next to all of these the had
    one that said "My kid beat up your honor student"
    
    Strange the mixed messages you can get from some people
    
    --Geoff

	On My Wife's car:

		I Came, I Saw, I Did a Little Shopping.

Jim

    veni, vidi VISA?

    <--  %^>   
    
    i like it...
    

    "Doing my part to piss off the Radical Right" next to an "I <heart>
    Hooters" bumper sticker.
    
    Bob

    
    How about:
    
    "I brake when it is appropriate to do so."
    

    Glen could have one that says "I make for Bruce"

                      <<< Note 619.7 by SMURF::WALTERS >>>

>    veni, vidi VISA?


	Bravo!

	;-)

Jim

    There is the ubiquitous "I brake for ____" series. I brake for
    animals. I brake for whales. I brake for hallucinations. I brake for no
    apparent reason.
    
    Then we have the empathy series. No Fat Chicks. No Bozos. Gas, Ass or
    Grass- Nobody rides for free.
    
    The Mr Tough Guy series. "A Smith and Wesson Beats four Aces" "If this
    van's rocking, don't come knockin'." 
    
    The "I have a social conscience, why don't you?" series. "Envision
    Whirled Peas." "Fur Kills" "No Animal Testing" PETA "Reproductive
    freedom for women is a fundamental right" <insert picture of baby harp
    seal here> 
    
     

    
      This is a TTHT and any day : "Baby on Board".  Ordinarily, nothing
     on a car or truck can make me angry, but this does.  I'm tempted
     to cut this driver off, something I normally never do.
    
      bb

    "If your nose runs and your feet smell, you're built upside down."

re .14:

I agree that the signs are stupid, but I don't understand why they anger you.
Speaking of which, can someone explain how I'm supposed to react to "Caution!
Show Dogs" bumper stickers?

    
    
    RE: .14  bb, seek help fast.......either that, or seek omployment at
    the post office.
    
    

>> I agree that the signs are stupid, but I don't understand why they anger you.
>> Speaking of which, can someone explain how I'm supposed to react to "Caution!
>> Show Dogs" bumper stickers?
    
    It means you're supposed to show them your dogs, of course...
    
    Chris

    RE: Baby on Board

    My favorite parody was "Baby I'm Bored"


    Others I've seen recently:
                     +---------------------------------+
                     |  If they take away my guns, how |
                     |  am I going to shoot liberals?  |
                     +---------------------------------+

                   +------------------------------------+
                   | Impeach Clinton.  And her husband. |
                   +------------------------------------+

    
    omployment??? is this close to omnipotent, Mike.

    .9 "Doing my part to piss off the Radical Right" bumper sticker?
    
    		....Where can I get one....
    
    
    Seen several but here are two of my favorites:
    
    	"God is coming and boy is she Pissed"
    	"Die yuppy scum"
                                          
        

    "My other car is a broom"

       "Only my cat understands me"
    
    

    "My other car is just as bad"
    

    
    "My other horse is a car"

Could somebody explain "Mean People Suck"?  Often seen in the company of
Grateful Dead paraphernalia.

    What's to explain? They don't like mean people.

   > Could somebody explain "Mean People Suck"?  Often seen in the company of
   > Grateful Dead paraphernalia.
    
    Exactly, "Mean People" == "Someone who isn't a brain-dead 45 year-
    old burned-out zombie, who has an actual job, and who doesn't
    follow a has-been group of garage band rejects around in a
    flowered bus".
    
    -b

So who does?  It's unbearably whiny IMHO.

>> Could somebody explain "Mean People Suck"?
    
    It's probably one of those statistical things, like the poll
    stuff we were talking about yesterday.
    
    Chris

Gerald,
   I have forwarded your query to #1 daughter, the liberal professional
student at Lehigh University who sports such a sticker on the back of
the 82 Escort I gave her out of the goodness of my heart and who wears
a ring in her right eyebrow and also sports various grateful dead stickers
in various places on said automobile.

   Surely we'll get something definitive and reliable from her.

    
    i have seen that sticker (not necessarily the exact one on your
    daughter's car, as i am sure i have never seen your daughter).  and i
    must say, i agree with the sticker.  i ain't no hippy grass smokin'
    unemployed groupie, but it's true.  mean people suck.  
    
    

Saw this one this week in Nashua, NH:

        All I want is one good piece.
        

    
    RE: .21
    
    ^....Where can I get one....
                                                 
    The company that produces the Darwin and Evolve Fish also distributes
    these bumper stickers. you can write them and request information at:
    
    Fish
    P.O. Box 26523
    Colorado Springs, CO
    		80936
    
    or contact their Homepage on the web:
    
    	http://www.usa.net/evolvefish/

    
    
    
    	Gettin' Theyaah from Heyaah
    
    seen on my truck...
    
    	Legalize the Bill of Rights
    
    --Geoff

    
    
    "four years without a president is enough"
    
    "it's time to pull over and change the air in your head"
    
    "want to see a drive by shooting, pass me on the right"
    
    "I <heart shape> cats....they taste like chicken"
    
    

    Back in the late '80s when all the freeway shootings were going on in
    Southern Cal.  I saw:
        "<picture of a 45>?"

        "Don't shoot I'll pull over"

        "Keep honking, I'm reloading."

    
    My karma ran over my dogma...

    
    Seen in LA some years back (after some freeway shootings):
                                       
    	"Cover me while I change lanes."

    "I have PMS and a gun.  Any questions about my driving?"

    "I still miss my ex-husband -- but my aim is getting better"

    
    "Clinton doesn't inhale, he just sucks" 
    

.31>   Surely we'll get something definitive and reliable from her.

Mail comes back -

From:	xxxxxxxx
To:	I (spade) my (dogface)  13-Dec-1995 1049 <molar::delbalso>
CC:	
Subj:	Re: Any answer for this, kiddo?

Hi dad,

I'm not sure where it came from. I could ask around though. I think it's from
a movie... whatever it is, I have it on my bumper, right next to the sticker
that says "whatever" (which, oddly enough, appears to be liscenced, as there
is a guy's name and address printed on the bottom...?).

Oh, BTW, here's my xmas list:

[The mail goes on.]

    
    What, you're not going to post her Christmas list so we can give you
    advice on what to purchase?
    
    

The day that I come in here looking for advice is . . . . 

    yes?

    
    
    
    Jack,
    
    
    I'm surprised you took her e-mail address off.  Heck, I'm sure she'd
    have loads of fun hearing from different boxers....... :')
    
    
    Mike

    Yeah, I was looking forward to hassling her about her piercing fetish.

Please. I'll invite you over during the holidays, Doctah, so I can not
only watch, but fashion a homey I-Told-You-So grin.

    
    homey don't play dat...
    
    
    :>
    
    debra, now if jack's youngin' can get a list to him, why can't you get
    one to me!!?!?!
    
    

 From the Watergate era


 "Imprick the peach"

    
    
    
    	Honk if you love Darwin.
    

    
    Guns don't kill, religious fanatics do

    "My other <picture of a tank> is a car"
    
    On my car. Made from NG sticker. I don't have a tank. Yet!
    
    
    Steve

    
    
    "Concrete Driveways Are Better"
    
    

"than abstract driveways."

    Know Jesus, Know Peace!
      No Jesus, No Peace!
    

    "my Boss is a Jewish Carpenter"

    When my husband was at MIT, some students tried to get this on a
    t-shirt:

    	"Mathematicians do it continuously but discretely."


    (The bozos at the t-shirt place thought the word 'discretely' was
    misspelled, though, and wrote it as 'discreetly.'  Idjits.)

    
    	One that should cover most of the bases..
    
    	"I support your choice to nuke the gay minority female baby whales
    	in the name of Jesus with a handgun"
    

    
    "Vulgarity Happens"
    

    
    
    My son was "Convict of the Month"

    
    but tim seems like such a nice guy...
    
    

    
    
    "seen" or.. "heard about" or "mentioned by someone else"....
    
    
    Should've included the rider... :)
    

	"Basses do what tenors sing about"

    
    
    
    	"NEWTer Gingrich!"
    
    	"I do Blame You!"

        "Eat Canadian lamb. 25,000 coyotes can't be wrong."

    "dick nixon before he dicks you"

Don't change Dicks in the middle of a screw
Vote for Nixon in '72.

    
    "live fast, die young, leave a good looking corpse"

    "a hard man is good to find"
    

    Shortly after Nixon fired Archibald(?) Cox, the special Watergate
    investigator, "Nixon shucks Cox".
    
    -- Jim

	Handed to me Friday.

		"WARNING! Driver Only Carries $20 Worth of Ammunition"

Jim

    
    
    	re -1
    
    	I want one!!!!
    
    
    

    That's a good 'un, alright. :-)  While visiting a very dear, very sick 
    cousin today at Lawrence (MA) General Hospital, I saw another...
    
    WARNING:  DO NOT DRIVE FASTER THAN YOUR ANGEL CAN FLY
    
    :-)
                                           

     
    
    	Saw an EMT bumper sticker the other day. It showed a typical
    ventricular fibrillation printout and the words "It's not nice to FIB".
    :)
    
    
    	

    
    Re Bosnia : "Send Chelsea"
    
    Re Clinton : "Happiness is Clinton's face on a milk carton"
    
    "Vote Republican: It's easier than thinking"
    
    "Vote Democratic: It's easier than working"
    
    "Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants" (I have some of these)
    
    "Give me your poor, your tired, your less ambitious"
    
    "(I) (R)efuse (S)lavery"
    
    "Visualize My Butt"
    
    "I got the SHAFTA from NAFTA"
    
    "Smoke It or Make Rope"
    
    "Jesus is Coming. Look Busy." (big in Dallas)

    
    i see this one quite often around the fitchburg area, and i have no
    idea what the heck it means...
    
    				sisu
    
    
    

    You need the double secret Finnish decoder ring in order to decipher
    it.  

    
    	sisu stands for "stubborn finn" from what I've been told.
    
    
    jim (part finnish)
    
    

    I think I saw this one before the L.A. riots:
        "Visualize Street Warefare"

    Seen yesterday:
    
       Jimmy Carter is no longer the worst president we ever had.
    
    
    

    
    	A certain % of the population is going to say the current pres-
    	isent is the worst president we ever had, or is doing a horrible
    	job, etc., etc. ... regardless of who the president is at the
    	time.
    

                               Doing my part
                                to piss off
                            the Religious Right
    
    DougO

    
    
    SCASS1::GUINEO::MOORE .77>  "Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants" (I
    have some of these)
    
    Now there's one that would look good next to my Libertarian sticker.

    "Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Republican"

    Question Reality

    "Friends Don't Let Friends Eat Meat"
    
    On my car:  "Won By One" and "Go Against The Flow"
    
    'pril 

    
    	Eyuw, a vegetarian?
    
    	Don't like real food, eh?
    

    
    .88
    
    ...could it be?
    
    
    

    I love meat.  8)  I saw that one on a car on LBJ the other day in rush
    hour traffic.  
    
    And, those other two are actually on my husband's car, which used to me
    mine...so I lied.
    
    Personally, I hate bumper stickers.  They cheapen the look of any
    car...
    
    'pril

    re: .90
    
    It could be...

    
    March right over to 19 and introduce yourself, young lady.
    
    
    

    
    	The only way I'll put a bumper sticker on one of my cars is if
    	I tape it to the inside of the rear window.
    
    	NOTHING gets stuck to the paint or the bumpers.
    
    	And glad to hear you like real food.  8^)
    

    The only bumper sticker on my car (actually taped to the inside of the
    rear window):

        "I <skull and crossbones> taxes."


    -- Dave

    
    
    YOU'RE BAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    

    Yes, I like real food.  In fact, I LOVE food in general.  But it's got
    to be really greasy and fattening. ;)
    
    My ex-boyfriend had a nickname for my eating habits which is not 
    appropriate for me to repeat in this forum.  8)  Hollow legs, bottomless 
    pit, things of that nature are what I'm used to...
    
    I do like rabbit food on occasion as long as it's followed up with a
    big fat juicy steak (well done).
    
    'pril (marching...)
    

    
    
   > I do like rabbit food on occasion as long as it's followed up with a
   > big fat juicy steak (well done).
                             ^
    			     |
                         Gak!!!!
    ed

    A well done juicy steak is a real OXYmoron.

    
    	That's well-done with lots of A1 ... the only way to make it juicy.
    
    	BTW, medium well, with NO A1, is perfect.
    

    Sorry, I don't do blood.
    
    'pril

    Why waste the beef? Just eat the hide.

    
                          (__)
                          (OO)
                   /-------\/ 
                  / |     || \ 
                 *  ||W---|| This latest string greatly troubles me. 
                    ~~    ~~            <<shiver>>

    

    fear not, little cow.  we shall hide you from the barbarians.

    I have a beard and I like my meat red.

    
    <---- you also live up north, but we will forgive you.

    i like my tuna seared on the outside and raw in the middle.

    So, you throw the can in the fire for a minute or so?

    
    well Oph, I like my tuna between two pieces of bread and miracle whip.

    just until it stops flopping around, yeah.

    
    >>....miracle whip
    
    
    where's that "gak" topic????
    
    

    miracle whip and minute rice.  my, what the 50's gave us.

    
    
    The only way to eat tuna is 'moked....
    

    
    <---- it helps if you first open the can.

I like my tuna daubed with wasabi, bedded in short grain rice and wrapped
in nori.

    
    That's what we're having for dinner tonight!
    
    		Teka Maki... by Diane Markey.
    
    -b

    .115
    
    that's best way.  hi!  or is it hie!

    On the back of a motorcycle helmet:  "A-positive"

    "Eat people.  A million pirahna can't be wrong."

re: .117, Oph

H'lo there.

    i think it's "hi!".

    
    The best tuna I ever tasted was a piece of white meat, delicately
    smoked using cherry wood...
    

    
    <---- you racist tuna eater.

    
    
    Sorry....
    
     The next best was the dark meat....
    

    
    "Hai".
    
    nnttm.
    
    

    
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIYYYYAAAAAHH!
    
    {chop} {chop}
    
    

    
    Call it a pet peeve, but I think the single most reliable
    indicator of Yankee declasse trash is when it orders a
    "tuner grindah".

    -b (a Yankee, BTW, who makes it a point NOT to talk like
        that...)

    .124  thank you, mz_debra, it was driving me crazy.

    i ustah think that "nnttm" meant "now not that that matters".

    
    re: .127
    
    re: tuner grindah
    
    Especially when you order one in Iower.. ( swear a former boss said it
    like that!!)
    

    
    .128
    
    Doitashimas'te.
    
    

H'lo to you, too, Debra.

    
    >i ustah think that "nnttm" meant "now not that that matters".
    
    
    	Hey, that looks strangely familiar, since I thought [and said]
    	exactly the same thing a few months ago.
    

        "Salad" is what real food eats.    

    
    I love salad.
    
    

    
    Teddy Salad? You, know, with the Ballet?
    
    -b

    
    re: the tunar grindah in iower...
    
    there is a v.p. way up there in the chain of "command" that
    insists that we developed the alpher chip...
    
                   

    A tuner Grindah in Iowar, how guache, the only thing to order there is
    a pork tenderloin sandwitch, preferably with the onions and relish
    fried in on one side.
    
    meg

    I think bumper stickers have become a lost art up here.
    
    Stuck on the 401 for 45 minutes Friday night, in very heavy traffic,
    there was not one car with a bumper sticker in sight.
    
    Now, if you try to work out some of the lisence plate clues, that could
    be interesting.
    
    
    joan
    

>I like my tuna daubed with wasabi, bedded in short grain rice and wrapped
>in nori.
    
     Forget the nori, but the rest is yum city. You can get the nori taste
    by licking a recently dry docked trawler.

Yabbut licking the trawler doesn't provide that extra chewy texture.

    You've got an old baseball glove just sitting there in the closet.

    RE: Several....  Beef cooked well done is a sin.  Your beef eating
    privs. should be revoked.  
    
    I'm wiv Bonnie on the tuna/seared/raw thing.  Yummy!
    
    Markey has once again ponited out a very irritating abberation of
    our quaint New English langwedge.  
    
    As for bumper ornamentation, in the early 80's there was one created at
    the height of the great auto industry slump of 81', "Will the last
    person in Michigan please turn out the lights?"  Dark humor at its best
    

    >RE: Several....  Beef cooked well done is a sin.  Your beef eating
    >privs. should be revoked.  
    
     I'd expand that to include red meat in general. With the appropriate
    exceptions for meatloaf, pot roast, etc.
    
    >I'm wiv Bonnie on the tuna/seared/raw thing.  Yummy!
    
     Yup. I've got a great recipe that absolutely sings with a pinot.
    
    >Markey has once again ponited out a very irritating abberation of
    >our quaint New English langwedge.  
    
     I think we should start a campaign to stop Markey from poniting,
    personally.

>     Yup. I've got a great recipe that absolutely sings with a pinot.

	oh puke.  where do you come up with this stuff?  ;>

    I do it just to annoy you.

Levesque's singing tuna:

Starkist is tuna so tender and mild,
Firmest and freshest,
But most of all mild.

    
      Sorry, Charlie
    
      bb

  .147  maybe you really _can_ tuna fish.

    >            -< have trouble with gourmet tuna as a concept >-
    
     Never had fresh tuna?

    >	oh puke.  where do you come up with this stuff?  ;>
    
     Ok, let me translate: It's wicked good.

  find fault?  mr. lemony-mid-mouth, i'm shocked!  wicked shocked. ;>

    >                             -< {smooch} >-
    
     I think I just got, er, kissed.

    
    	Wow.....I didn't think I could see Mark blush over the tube...I was
    wrong...:)
    
    

    watching tv at my favorite fish restaurant in woostah last
    night and these two guys were on the tube fishing up in alaska.  one
    guy hooked into a halibut - a big halibut - the fish was an
    incredible-looking thing!  it looked prehistoric!  and it 
    was huge.  they had to shoot him in the noggin to get him
    on board. 

    One got himself a "barn door"? Yeah, they get pretty large. Some guy
    got a world record fish off the coast of Massachusetts a couple of
    years ago; I think it was 255 lbs. And he caught it on a party boat!

    > watching tv at my favorite fish restaurant in woostah last
    
    Oh please Oph, tell me it isn't that gawd awful Sole
    Proprieter...
    
    -b

    The Sole Proprieter used to be pretty good (back when I was at WPI,
    anyway.)

Markey, quit with the crappie puns.

    No way Gerald, you won't bait us into a pun feeding frenzy.

    
    
    	re: shooting fish
    
    	wow! Now there's a sport I could get into.....:)
    
    

    
    yeah Brian, halibut any sense, you would eat at the Chart House.

    re: .158
    
    Yup, used to go there myself while at Worcester State.

    
    Folks: the name of the restaurant IS the Sole Proprietor.
    It's not a pun.

    At its very best, it is OK. Frequently it is not at its
    best. Worcester is a bad place for fish. Even the Legal
    Seafoods that existed in Worcester (on Commercial Street,
    across from the Deviated Centrum) BLEW CHUNKS...

    There's good Thai, Indian, Lebanese/Syrian, Italian,
    Japanese and Americana to be had in Worcester, but good
    seafood and good Chinese food are complete unknowns...

    -b

>    Folks: the name of the restaurant IS the Sole Proprietor.
>    It's not a pun.

It's not?

    
    
    
    Will you all cut the carping!?!?!?!?!

    
    Let me rephrase: It's not MY pun...
    
    -b

    Bri, do you order a bass so you can play with your food?

    
    	Yeah, but he tends to pick at it.
    

    bri - i've had terrific fish at the sole proprietor!  i can
    remember only one disappointing meal and that was years ago.
    i'm sentimental about the sole; been going there for years.
    It's pricey and noisy but every once in a while i need to go
    there for my martini and oysters...

    >> but every once in a while i need to go
    >> there for my martini and oysters...

	you're okay, Oph.  

    
    I've been there four times over a period of 10 years... I even
    gave them one more "strike" than they deserved. Twice for
    lunch and twice for dinner.

    The food is not awful, but I expect much more for the price.
    The service was always adequate, but never exceptional.
    Their chowder recipe is sub-par, they're not very creative,
    and they're totally lost when it comes to Cajun grill.
    I've had every bit as good a seafood meal in innumerable
    other places, but with better prices, fresher ingredients
    and better service.

    Not to mention the fact that Highland Street blows my maximum
    crazed-granola-weirdo quota very quickly...

    -b

    On a T-shirt (potentially cruder than bumper stickers) designed by
    U of Florida veterinary medicine students:
    
    "Veterinarians do it doggy style"
    
    That shirt received many comments from faculty and compliments from 
    students.

    
>    That shirt received many comments from faculty and compliments from 
>    students.


   I think that comment belongs in the TTWA topic, IMO of course.



 Jim

    
    
    Not really Jim.... "students" seems to speak for itself....
    

    
    	That's because the students can appreciate a good joke.  Adults,
    	however, are too uptight.
    

    
    
    Unless you say something they don't like...
    
     Then all of a sudden... a "speech code" comes into effect...
    

    
    Bumper stickers, people.

    
    	I'll take 1.  How much??
    

    >> Bri, do you order a bass so you can play with your food?
    
    Yes, he can play scales on it.
    
    
    re: "it looked prehistoric"
    
    It was not only prehistoric, it was... "lunch".
    At least with chicken, you know what era the thing is from... :-)
    
    Chris

    .179
    
    A buck.

    
    	Sure, send it over.  Check's in the mail.
    

    
    
    	My other half lives walking distance from the Sole Proprietor.
    	The night I met his folks we went there for dinner.  When they
    	come up from Virginia to visit him, they always go there.
    

    In search of the eternal buzz.

    .138> A tuner Grindah in Iowar, how guache
    
    Yabbut it sure looks better if you daub it with some tempura...
    

    You mean tempurar.

        "Tempura Society; for lightly battered people"
        

    	
    	Oph, the Brew Moon in Boston makes a grilled tuna sandwich
    	cooked exactly as you describe.  I know, because my sister was
    	quite upset that it wasn't cooked through ;-).
    
    	re: sole proprietor - I was less than impressed years ago when
    	I took my mother there, but was pleasantly pleased with my lunch
    	there last spring (maybe because I didn't have to pay ?).  First
    	time I had sashimi - yum !!!
    

    
    Keep going past the Sole Proprieter, take a left at Park Ave,
    go for 2.5 - 3 miles until the Sakora Tokyo is on your right,
    sit at the Sushi bar, ask for the Itamae-san "John" by name,
    and THEN tell me about sashimi.
    
    -b

 The best seafood sandwich I have ever had was an abalone sandwich
 at a place in South Lake Tahoe, Calif many years ago.  I simply
 have tasted nothing that comes close (not even the snickers last
 night).



 Jim

You Snickers didn't taste like an abalone sandwich?  Did it taste like a
bologna sandwich?

    
    An abologna sandwich is, of course, one without balogna.
    
    -b

    I probably tasted like chicken.

><<< Note 619.193 by CONSLT::MCBRIDE "pack light, keep low, move fast, reload often" >>>
>
>    I probably tasted like chicken.

Glen?

    > I probably tasted like chicken.
    
    Er, salty chicken, perhaps?
    
    -b

    DOH!

>You Snickers didn't taste like an abalone sandwich?  Did it taste like a
>bologna sandwich?


 no and no

    i had fresh barracuda for lunch once in Mexico.  it was so
    tasty i almost cried.  i'm going back to the same lunch spot
    in march.  it's called the "most beautiful place by the sea".
    i made the reservations yesterday!

All that on a bumper sticker?

    
    
    	Bumper snarf!
    

    
    	It must be one of those "wraparound bumper" stickers ... very
    	popular on newer cars.
    

    This one made me want to wretch...
    
    
    "I'm a state worker
     and proud of it"

    Why?
    
    Pride in one's work is important.  This is somewone you probably get
    more out of than the person who tries to hide it.
    

    -1 lighten up Meg... i'm sure it was just a musing poke at the stereo-
       typical worker of that flavor.
    
       Merry Christmas.

    Gone Down Lately?
    
    On a bumper sticker with a diving flag on it.

Retch.  NNTTM.

Seen today in Nashua traffic -

	"misc.kids: YMMV :>)"

    What does YMMV stand for anyway?

 Your Mileage May Vary

>Your Mileage May Vary

you forgot to add `HTH, NNTTM'.  :)

Chris.

    and IPA, KFC, LMNOP.
    
    WGAS eh?
    
    8^)

    
    K.M.A.
    
    HTH.

>    K.M.A.
    
FOAD!

HTH.

    Ummmmm
    
    Fall over and die?
    
    Or is this a new amphibian?
    
    meg

    
    
    
    DARE to think for yourself
    
    (it isn't illegal yet)
    
    Actually I think I will get that one for my vehicle
    
    meg

>    Fall over and die?
    
erm not quite, a bit ruder than that!  :)

Chris.

         My two stomach-turning favorites, both seen in southern New
    Hampshire:
    
    	HOW DO I KNOW? THE BIBLE TELLS ME SO!
    
    	GOD SAID IT! I BELIEVE IT! AND THAT SETTLES IT!
    
    	Mike

    Not a bumper sticker, but it belongs here:
    
    A NH vanity plate, on a white Camaro, with the following:
    
    		-------------------
    		|                 |
                |   T N A 4 M E   |
                |_________________|
    
    

    
    	What's a "Livery" plate?
    
    	Saw one on a limo this morning.
    
    
    	------------------------------
    	|                            |
    	| L         12 345           |
    	| V                          |
    	|           Livery           |
    	------------------------------
    

    
    You answered your own question.
    
    The original meaning of livery [other than the uniform that your male
    servants wear] was the hiring out of horses and carriages.
    
    
    

    
    	Thanks, but I hardly answered my own question.
    
    	Had I known the original meaning of "Livery", then yes, I'd say
    	I could have put 2 and 2 together and gotten 4, or "a hired
    	means of transport".
    

 the point is, of course, that the plate was on a limo.  That should have
 given you a clue. Some of us are able to figure those things out.




 Jim

    
    Shawn constantly needs things explained to him.  It's really kind of
    sad.
    

 ZZZ    GOD SAID IT! I BELIEVE IT! AND THAT SETTLES IT!
    
    Yes, this disgusts me too.  It should say...
    
    "God Said It! That Settles It!"
    
    Who cares what I believe!?

A livery plate is what you have after you've eaten most of your meal of liver
and onions.  HTH.

    
>    Shawn constantly needs things explained to him.  It's really kind of
>    sad.
 
  
 Sad indeed.  Ah well.



 Jim   

    LIVERY, Engl. law. 1. The delivery of possession or lands to those
    tenants who hold of the king in capite, or knight's service. 2. Livery
    was also the name of a writ which lay for the heir of age, to obtain
    the possession of seisin of his lands at the king's hands. F. N. B.
    155. 3. It signifies, in the third place, the clothes given by a
    nobleman or gentleman to his servant.
    
    
    Well, I guess limos deliver possessions to those tenants who hold of
    the king in capite.

    .224
    
    > Who cares what I believe!?
    
    Ask Glen.
    
    

	HEY! I drag myself into enough OJ Martin stuff... I don't need any
stinkin help! :-)

    WARNING...US POSTAL WORKER ABORD.

    should be ABOARD.

    
    Saw one in Florida...
    
    "I'm a child, not a choice."
    

    Shouldn't be driving then.....

    >"I'm a child, not a choice."
    
     True enough. Children are the result of a whole bunch of choices.

    "Make a Liberal mad...give birth!"
    
    "What did Vince really know?"

    Being a libereal and the mother of 3 I think you missed that one.  
    
    P off a conservative have another baby out of wedlock.
    
    

    
    
    
    Gee Meg, why so synsitive??????

    Mike,
    
    I am sick and tired of people thinking big bad liberals are anti child,
    and family, that's why.  given the current loads of "reform" I would
    say another party has the lock on that.  Even the catholic Bishops
    believe that the "reforms" directed at poor families is going to
    increase the abortion rate in this country.  while some people seem to
    think this is a good thing, I believe forcing people to abort or starve
    one of more children to be disgusting.  
    
    Remember, more than half of the kids in my kid's school are on reduced
    or free lunches and breakfasts and for good reason.  The wage base in
    this town for semi-skilled workers sux rox on a good day.  Many of
    these families are two parent, two earner but still can't make ends
    meet all the way for their 2.3 kids.
    
    meg
    
    

    
    
    
    AlGore would have been proud of your last note, Meg.
    
    
    I'm sick and tired of the libs making the repubs out to be Atilla the
    Huns.  They are trying to turn the country around by making some tough
    choices.  It has to be done or the country's going to go bankrupt.  Too
    bad people can't see the forest through the trees.  The government
    can't solve our problems and people should stop looking towards it to
    save them from themselves.  It's easy to make this seem mean spirited,
    but then again, you don't know what my family or other conservatives do
    to help the poor and the less fortunate, so to say we don't care is
    plain old ignorance.  Take a look at France and what is going on over
    there.  That is what is in store for us if we don't get our affairs in
    order.  
    
    Mike

    >I am sick and tired of people thinking big bad liberals are anti child,
    >and family, that's why.  
    
     They aren't anti-child. They are anti-responsibility. Don't want to
    fornicate responsibily? Have an abortion. Don't want to have only the
    children you can support? Get the government to pay for your kids.
    They don't believe that people should be required to behave
    responsibly. They do, however, believe that people who choose to behave
    responsibly should be punished by being forced to pay for those who
    elect not to. How much easier would it be for the poor to claw their
    way out of poverty (like my family did) if we didn't have the burden of
    paying for those who don't want to be responsible?
    
    >Even the catholic Bishops
    >believe that the "reforms" directed at poor families is going to
    >increase the abortion rate in this country.  
    
     Ah, yes, the much hated and vilified Catholic bishops. Yup, when they
    support increased spending for social programs, they're to be listened
    to. When they oppose abortion rights, why they're to be reviled.
    Nothing like having it both ways, eh, Meg? Must be the liberal in you.
    Force of habit, you know.
    
    >I believe forcing people to abort or starve one of more children to 
    >be disgusting.  
    
     I believe forcing people to elect not to have more kids because they
    are being forced to pay for people who won't support their own kids is
    far more disgusting. YMOV.
    
    >The wage base in
    >this town for semi-skilled workers sux rox on a good day.  
    
     Too bad you are unable to make the connection that this is related to
    government overspending, particularly on the biggest parts of the
    government pie- social services. You refuse to make the connection
    because it would cause you to admit that the irresponsibility
    encouraged by the current system is the root of the problem.

    
    <yawn>
    

    
    
    Give it a rest meg....
    

    .239
    
    > They are trying to turn the country around by making some tough
    > choices.
    
    Indeed.  The choices they're making are so tough because they have to
    tread a careful line between actually doing something substantive and
    pissing off voters who might re-elect them.  The Congress of today is
    like every other Congress since this nation was founded -- the object
    of every single Congresscritter is to get re-elected, and who gives a
    damn about that General Welfare that the Preamble of the Constitution
    mentions.  "Make MY constituents happy and get returned to my teat."

    
    Return To The Monarchy!!!
    

    >Indeed.  The choices they're making are so tough because they have to
    >tread a careful line between actually doing something substantive and
    
     Well, we certainly have the democrats and the current administration
    opposing substantive change at every single turn, don't we? Even
    substantive change promised by candidate Clinton and repeated by
    President Clinton as late as this past summer. Suddenly, faced with the
    prospect of delivering (and hence allowing republicans to make good on
    their promises, possibly even leading to republican reelections) the
    politics of obstruction suddenly have taken on a new urgency.
    
     Not that the republicans are 100% right about everything (nor _should_
    this need to be said.) But currently the two parties are at the 90%-10%
    level. Currently the republicans are 90% right and 10% wrong, and the
    democrats are 90% wrong and 10% right. One thing the republicans ought
    to be doing is taking money from "welfare" and other entitlements and
    moving it to educational assistance, in effect, starting a new series
    of programs called "empowerments." That, along with balancing the
    budget and paying down the debt, would be the right thing to do. And
    stop with such silliness as censoring the internet. Let parents be
    responsible for monitoring their kids.

    
    
    Well said, Doc.
    
    
    

    
    
    BUMPER STICKERS, PEOPLE!!! BUMPER STICKERS!!!
    

    .245
    
    > Currently the republicans are 90% right and 10% wrong, and the
    > democrats are 90% wrong and 10% right.
    
    In your never-humble opinion.
    
    I hate to have to point this out again, but most legislators, despite
    their primary desire to be re-elected, actually work to create laws
    that they believe are right.  Hence, the Right thinks we're at the
    90-10 level with the Right being right, and the LEft thinks we're at
    the 90-10 level with the Left being right.  But only the Right has
    vowed not to compromise.  DO SOMETHING, EVEN IF IT'S WRONG.  Standing
    on their little self-righteous pedestals isn't doing ANYONE any good.
    A 50-50 compromise, in which SOMETHING got done, would be better than
    this 90-10 demonizing, in which NOTHING gets done.  Grow up, won't you?

    
    
    BS, Dick.  Clinton himself said the same thing about the budget when he
    was running for pres and when he came into office.  

    >Hence, the Right thinks we're at the
    >90-10 level with the Right being right, and the LEft thinks we're at
    >the 90-10 level with the Left being right.  
    
     The difference is the left has failed over the last 40 years to
    deliver improvements to society. Indeed, by many measures, society has
    declined as a direct or secondary result of the imposition of liberal 
    policies. Tried and failed is still failed. Taking ipecac for a
    headache doesn't work. It's in the "tried and failed" pile. Liberals
    are now clinging to the "well, maybe 50% ipecac and 50% ibuprofin is a
    good compromise.' Compromise? Why cling so sullenly to the tried and
    failed just because it was your side's idea? Talk about being stupidly
    stubborn.
    
    >But only the Right has vowed not to compromise.
    
     That's inaccurate, but it makes for a handy mantra. They said they
    were not going to compromise their ideals, but they have always been
    open to honest negotiation. Of course, it's the honest part that's so
    offputting to Janus Clinton. He's the one who's dug his heels into the
    ground and refused to compromise, even after promising to negotiate
    given certain conditions he claimed were what he wanted all along.
    
    >DO SOMETHING, EVEN IF IT'S WRONG.  
    
     Some things may prove to be wrong over the long term, some over the
    short term. Some may prove to be right. The democrats are behaving in a
    conservative way by opposing change even where policies are clearly and
    plainly broken. The republicans deserve a chance to reverse some of the
    damage. Will they make mistakes? Undoubtedly. But one thing is certain.
    The democrats HAVE made mistakes, and it's WAY PAST TIME to address
    these issues. And leaving half the crap in your chicken sandwich in the
    name of compromise is idiocy, plain and simple. It's time for HONEST
    debate of the issues as policy is formulated, not half solutions so the
    democrats can claim compromise and thus be reelected. Compromise is
    neither always good nor always bad. It is neither always necessary nor
    always to be avoided. Compromise should occur where it makes sense to
    occur, and should not occur where it makes no sense. You seem to
    support compromise without regard to merit, a most perplexing position
    for you to take.
    
    >In your never-humble opinion.
    
     Oh, like you should talk! Pot to kettle: "you're awful black!!!!" This
    kettle is giggling at the accusation, Dick. Really. Read what you write
    on occasion. Not to mention the fact that never-humble is wrong. Rarely
    humble? Yeah, I'll concede that. But never-humble is simply wrong. My
    notes here and elsewhere prove that.
    
    >Grow up, won't you?
    
     And become a cantakerous old-fart? Please. There's some life left in
    me yet. :-)

    .250
    
    Doctah, where did I claim that my opinion is humble?
    
    As for the Right's being open to "compromise" on honest negotiation,
    that's YOUR handy mantra.  The current government shutdown is proof
    that it's a lie - whether you believe it or not, the Dims think they
    are being honest.  They are negotiating in good faith, the principle of
    negitiation being give and take, and the Repubs are saying "eff you,
    it's our ball and you have to play by our rules."  Well, their rulebook
    sux rox, to coin a phrase.  They are unwilling to give an inch to get
    miles of their ideals implemented - that, sir, is just plain crap.

    
    
    I don't know what you've been watching, Dick, but it wasn't the repubs
    who signed on for the 7 year balanced budget plan using CBO numbers and
    then backing off.  It wasn't the repubs who said medicare/medicaid
    should grow at 6-7% and now says it's too little.  
    
    

    Wow, that's a long bumpersticker!

    .252
    
    Did you never say something looked good and then, when further
    information surfaced, revise your estimate?
    
    You must have a truly exceptional crystal ball.

    
    
    
    Yes I have, Dick.  I don't believe that this is what Clinton did,
    however.  It's political posteuring, something that is one of his
    stregnths.  He will be the president known for being in campaign mode
    for his whole term.  Too bad you can't admit this.
    
    
    
    Mike

    .255
    
    You're entitled to believe what you want.  So am I.  And of course NONE
    of the Republicans are doing any political posturing, no, couldn't
    possibly be.

 Stuckle Bimpers people, Stuckle Bimpers!

    
    
    
    Of course they are, Dick, it's the nature of the beast politic.  Not
    near as much as the dims, but they are doing some.
    
    
    

    >The current government shutdown is proof that it's a lie 
    
     Horse's patootey, it is. Clinton agreed to to submit a proposal he
    could support given CBO numbers and 7 years to balance as the sole
    prerequisite to reopening the government after the first shutdown. HE
    HAS YET TO DELIVER. You find that to be honest?

    
    
    He doesn't want to hear that, Mark, See .252.
    
    
    And then he goes to, "well the repubs do it".  Wordy would be proud.
    
    
    
    Mike

    >Did you never say something looked good and then, when further
    >information surfaced, revise your estimate?
    
     Given the multiplicity of estimates that have surfaced from the
    Clinton administration- 5 years, 10 years, 7 years, etc, one must
    conclude that their "crystal ball" is rectally located.
    
     Really, Dick. Even you can't swallow such a fig leaf defense. Face it-
    Clinton's simply practising the politics of obstruction. This is naked
    politicking on his part; nothing more, nothing less. Frankly, it's a
    ballsy move, even if it is borne solely out of a desire for reelection.

    Mr. Binder, you seem to have an inate ability to ignore the obvious. 
    Perhaps you would explain Mr. McCurry's comment yesterday that now that
    the polls have started to turn against Clinton he is more willing to
    actually work on this budget.  The entire time that the polls showed
    him making political hay out of this budget deal, he remained
    uncompromising, despite his comments to the the contrary.
    
    Remember, this is the same liar who said he would provide a 7 year
    balanced budget in order to get the government open.  Now he has done
    no such thing, and you have the unmitiagted gall to take the
    Republicans to task!!!! Also, this is the same guy who porposed larger
    cuts in Medicxxx and now titles the Republican smaller cuts as
    terrible.
    
    Stop complaining about the lack of compromise on the part of
    Republicans when your guy can't even get the simplest of statements
    honest.
     

    Back to the subject, and oldy and moldy:
    
    
    
    Don't blame me, I voted for Bush :-)
    

 I always liked the one that had Snoopy holding his nose and the
 sticker said "don't be a bumper sticker"

    
    "ass, gas or grass, nobody rides for free"

    re: -1
    
     see .13

    Dick:
    
    Be honest with us.  Is this about abortion rights or do you really have
    a desire to defend Clinton just because he's a nice guy?

    Heard about, but haven't seen:

        First Hillary, then Gennifer, and now us.

    
    Remember another seen in Florida last week...
    
    
    
                            "WHO ELECTED HER???"

    .268
    
    Pricesless ;-}
    

    Get some stick-on vinyl letter "N"s and make this simple change:
    
    
    Clinton / Gore '96
    
    becomes
    
    Clinton / GoNe '96
    
    
    much better...

    .267
    
    What it is, is that I prefer discussion with some meat, not the same
    old hashed-over "Clinton is a lying waffler" pablum.  We've already
    discussed that, now let's talk about what the RIGHT way to solve the
    problem is.

>>  now let's talk about what the RIGHT way to solve the
    problem is.

    ...preferably in some topic other than "bumper stickers".  ;>

    
    Write-lock!  Write-lock!  Write-lock!
    
    {stomp stomp}
    
    {clap clap}
    

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    Beep Beep Thump Thump

 >> Stuckle Bimpers people, Stuckle Bimpers!
    
    I thought it was "Stumper Bickers", which is pretty appropriate
    come to think of it.
    
    Chris

    Saw this one at lunchtime:
    
       -----------------------------------
       |	The Bill of Rights       |
       |   Void where prohibited by law  |
       -----------------------------------

D.A.R.E to keep the CIA
out of drugs

(or something like that.  It was quite funny since it was made to look like
one of the D.A.R.E dumper stickers.  I'd like to see one appear somehow on
the Westford Police's D.A.R.E vehicle!)

    I have one that reads D.A.R.E. to turn your parents in.  
    
    meg

>  now let's talk about what the RIGHT way to solve the
>  problem is.


I thought that was obvious.

Slick should sign what the Congress, which was elected by more than 43%
of the citizenry, has presented to him. It's what we want. That's why 
they're there.

It's not just the handful of conservatives and Republicans in the 'box
that think that the Congressional budget is a good one, you know.

    .282
    
    > It's what we want.
    
    BZZZZZT!
    
    It's what SOME OF US want.

    And it was 43% of active voters, not 43% of the population.  I think if
    you add it up, less than 22% of the adult population actually voted for
    the COA.
    
    meg

>    And it was 43% of active voters, not 43% of the population.  I think if
>    you add it up, less than 22% of the adult population actually voted for
>    the COA.

Er, um, my "43%" reference was to the segment of the voters that put Slick
on PA Ave, Meg - had nothing to do with the COA. But, thanks for pointing 
out that the 43% of the voters actually was 17% of the _eligible_ voters
in the country.

>    It's what SOME OF US want.

Actually, Dick, I think it's what the majority of the country, which elected
the current congress, wants. A larger "some" than you'd care to admit. I'd
be happy to see figures proving otherwise, but I doubt that they exist.

> D.A.R.E to keep the CIA
> out of drugs

> (or something like that.  It was quite funny since it was made to look like
> one of the D.A.R.E dumper stickers.  I'd like to see one appear somehow on
> the Westford Police's D.A.R.E vehicle!)

I saw one recently that says "D.A.R.E. to keep cops off doughnuts" - don't 
remember it all, but the "R.E." was "Rotundity Elimination".

    .286
    
    > it's what the majority of the country ... wants.
    
    Well, Jack, I hate to be the one to remind you that we live in a
    republic, not a democracy.  Our system of government was designed
    specifically to prevent mob rule, which is what we'd get if we had a
    simple democracy.  Frankly, I'm rather glad the founders had the
    foresight to forestall your sort of tyranny.

Oh, good gawd, Dick.

Are you now going to try and convince us that that idiot from Little Rock
is all that stands between "the people" and this "tyranny"?

The majority of the country wants what the 104th has proposed. Period.
And the country is entitled to it. And Slick, sooner or later, provided
that the Congress stands its ground, is going to have to succomb to that 
wish - republic/democracy/tyranny be damned.

    .289
    
    > The majority of the country wants...
    
    Why is it, then, that the numerical majority of registered voters in
    this country are DEMOCRATS?

>    Why is it, then, that the numerical majority of registered voters in
>    this country are DEMOCRATS?

'Scuse please?

Is your claim that there are more registered Democrats than Republicans/
Libertarians/Independents/etc. combined?

The things we learn in the 'box. . . 

    the fact that 43% of the people (voting people) put a republican
    congress in place does not necessarily follow that everything
    that the republican congress supports is supported by those voters.
    
    unless, of course, all the registered republican voters are lemmings. 

For the second time, for the comprehension-impaired, the 43% figure had
nothing to do with the numbers which elected this congress, but referred to
Slick's constituency. I am quite confident that the numbers which elected
the current congress, in total, are far higher than 43%. While I have no
idea what the numbers actually are, when all states' appointments/elections
are taken into account regarding congressional votes, that's not the issue 
under discussion.

    
    
    BAD COP, NO DONUT!
    
    

    re: .288
    
    What the majority wants IS relevant, like it or not.  The only time it
    is not, is when the "mob" wants to push for something that is not
    constitutional.
    
    Of course, this is quite irrelevant today.  What is and what isn't
    constitutional chages from day to day, depending on the political
    climate and who loads SCOTUS in their favor.
    
    
    -steve

    I wouldn't be surprised to find out that there were more registered
    Democrats than registered Republicans; that matters not Mr. Binder
    if some Democrats have "seen the light" and decided NOT to pull the
    lever and vote a straight ticket.
    
    My guess is there were a lot of Democrats who voted Republican in
    the last election.  
    
    Personally, I think we should re-name our political parties to
    Conversative or Liberal.  Plenty of folks in the south are registered
    Democrats, but they are conservatives at heart :-)
    

    
    bumper stickers  people  bumper stickers

    
    re: 619.296
     
    >Personally, I think we should re-name our political parties to
    >Conversative or Liberal. 
    
    Socialist or Libertarian would be more appropriate.
    Liberals are anything but these day,  they are trying to maintain
    the status quo.
    
     

    i think we should rename our parties the "good guys" and the
    "bad guys", but leave it up to each member of a party to decide
    whether his/her party is the "good guy" or the "bad guy" party.

    Here's my rathole-related bumper sticker:
    
    		'94 Just Won't Go Away
    
    Chris

    
    Holy Cow!!!! some of those bumper stickers you people claim to have
    seen must be huge (some with over 40 lines of text) I'd sure hate to
    see the bumper they were stuck on.............
    

    
    	If any were stuck to your mother you wouldn't be making light
    	of them, eh?
    

    re: .301
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	Saw Spaceballs recently:


		"We Stop For No One"

    
    Pat,
    
    <-----  Great movie, one of Mel's best.
    
    

 I enjoyed Spaceballs, but, IMO Mel's best was "Silent Movie".  I have never
 laughed so hard at a movie as I did that one the first time I saw it.



 Jim

    
    	I'm partial to "History of the World Part I".
    

    
    Blazing Saddles and Stir Crazy

 Stir Crazy was Mel Brooks?

    
    	Nope, not Mel Brooks:
    
                             Stir Crazy (1980)

                        USA 1980 Color (MetroColor)


Produced by: Columbia Pictures
Genre(s)/keyword(s): Comedy / prison / escape
Certification: UK:15 / USA:R

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Directed by
     Sidney Poitier
    
Cinematography by
     Fred Schuler

Music by
     Michael Masser
     Tom Scott

Written by
     Bruce Jay Friedman

Production Design by
     Alfred Sweeney

Costume Design by
     Patricia Edwards

Film Editing by
     Harry Keller

Produced by
     Hannah Weinstein

Other crew
     Scott Salman (choreographer)

    
     Gene Wilder .... Skip Donahue
     Richard Pryor .... Harry Monroe
     Georg Stanford Brown .... Rory Schultebrand
     JoBeth Williams .... Meredith
     Miguelangel Suarez .... Jesus Ramirez
     Craig T. Nelson .... Deputy Ward Wilson
     Barry Corbin .... Warden Walter Beatty
     Charles Weldon .... Blade
     Nicolas Coster .... Warden Henry Sampson
     Joel Brooks .... Len Garber
     Jonathan Banks .... Jack Graham
     Erland Van Lindth .... Grossberger
     Lewis Van Bergen .... Guard #1
     Karmin Murcelo .... Teresa Ramirez
     Franklyn Ajaye .... Young Man in Hospital
     Estelle Omens .... Mrs. R.H. Broache
     Peter Looney .... Kicker #1
     Cedrick Hardman .... Big Mean
     Doug Johnson .... Guard #2
     Henry Kingi .... Ramon
     Joe Massengale .... Caesar Geronimo
     Herman Poppe .... Alex
     Luis Avalos .... Chico
     Esther Sutherland .... Sissie
     Pemela Poitier .... Cook's Helper
     James Oscar Lee .... Kicker #2
     Rod McCary .... Minister
     Claudia Cron .... Joy
     Bill Bailey .... Announcer
     Donna Kei Benz .... Nancy
     Alvin Ing .... Korean Doctor
     Thomas Moore .... Judge
     Danna Hansen .... Mrs. Sampson
     Gwen Van Dam .... Mrs. Beatty
     Herb Armstrong .... County Jail Guard
     Herbert Hirschman .... Man at Dinner Party
     Don Circle .... Bank Teller
     Madison Arnold .... Guard #3
     Gene Earl .... Sheriff
     Mickey Jones .... Guard #8
     Tracey Lee Rowe .... Little Girl
     Essex Smith .... Blade's Friend
     Kenneth Menard .... Repairman
     Billy Beck .... Flycatching Prisoner
     Lee Purcell .... Susan
     rest of cast listed alphabetically
     Grand L. Bush .... Big Mean's Sidekick

    |I'm partial to "History of the World Part I".
    
    the opening scene was, well, hysterical.

    .310 wow! what a memory! :-)

    
    re: "History of the World Part I"
    
    I loved the Moses skit...
    
    :)
    

    
    Seen yesterday...
    
          Young at heart
    (Other parts slightly older)

    
    
    Seen last night...
    
    
    "The more people I meet, the more I like my cat."
    

    
    i saw one last nite that i sorta laughed at, but it would be deleted in
    a new york minute if i entered it... 

how long is a new york minute? are they stealing time there as well?

    .317
    
    A New York minute is the span of time between the changing of a traffic
    signal to green and the sounding of the horn in the car behind you.  In
    other words, roughly 3.27896 nanoseconds.

    .317
    About 37 seconds per every N.Y. minute, give or take a few seconds.

	The Timelords are going to be quite upset over this....

    I would just like to add.........The comments on the people with
    Grateful Dead related bumper stickers are NOT all unemployed drug
    addicts! Funny how people categorize others without a second glance. 
    Well, here's a few I had......
    
    
    	"Tailgate me and I'll flick a booga on your windshield"
    	
    
    	"FukenGruven" 
    
    
    	"So many men, so little amunition"
    
    
    		There are people in the world that love the Dead, let's not
    assume they all follow them and live like bums.
    	Thank You......K.T.
    

    
    << There are people that love the Dead..
    
    well, that's all fine and dandy, but I prefer the living. tyvm

    Wasn't that an old Alice Cooper tune?!

    Spotted the bumper sticker mobile yesteday.  It was a Ford F250 with a
    camper cap driven by some woodchuck on his way inta town fer vittles. 
    The whole veehickel was festooned with various bumper stickers that
    really did not convey any sort of theme other than to announce the
    owner as not being the brightest bulb on the tree.  

    
    	Love the Grateful Dead, and the people who love them ARE living
    phumans just like you and I. I have come to realize, a lot you are rude
    and one sided. Pretty sad. I am thru with this file!!!!

    Don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out.

    
    
    Be nice Dick...
    
    After all, dead-heads are phumans too!!!
    
    

    
    >After all, dead-heads are phumans too!!!
    
    	Yeah, P--hu!!
    

    
    who was that masked idiot?

    
    	don't know...he left to quickly to get a good look at him. Oh well,
    I sense it wasn't a huge loss....:)
    
    

    
    	Where exactly is quickly ?
    
    

    
    	Go to fast and take a right.
    

    

    	oops...missed an "o" there. I knew some kind soul would provide
    gentle guidance.

    Just for that, I'm gonna go to fast.

    i think he mentioned something about lucnch with Gerry and Elvis.

    
    	Or maybe Jerry.
    

    
    	#1. HE is a she.
    
    	#2. DeadHead? no, I am not.
    
    	#3. compasionate, real person? yes.
    
    	#4. totally surprised by replies....I expected more maturity in
    adults. guess it doesn't exisit much here.

    
    	I ALSO TAKE OFFENSE TO BEING CALLED AN IDIOT. 

Hey!  You broke your promise!

    Look, stay and play knowing full well that some of the children 
    like to throw sand or take your ball and go home.  Your choice.  Either
    way, life is way too short to get upset over goings on in here.  BTW,
    I think you overreacted a tad with the alleged portrayal of some folks
    that might display stereotypically associated Dead stuff.  FWIW, hth.  

    Seen this morning:
    
    Wife and dog missing.
    Reward for dog.

    
>    	#4. totally surprised by replies....I expected more maturity in
>    adults. guess it doesn't exisit much here.


  perhaps not, but correct spelling is a must!

    
    	Ok, so I typr too fast and spell wrong, I gues that makes me even
    more of an idiot huh? I am not over reacting at all. I would just like
    to come to an understanding or a reason why people catorgize all Dead
    Head paraphanialia(sp.) with "losers, scum, and bums.". That's all I
    want to know.

 As a former Deadhead, I wouldn't do such a thing, though in my travels
 I've certainly run across many who might be easily classified as such.
 I left the scene because I decided it was time to get serious about life



 Jim

What an idiot!  :)

    jim!  you were a deadhead!!??

 I was.

    
    >Head paraphanialia(sp.) with "losers, scum, and bums.". That's all I
                                   
    
    	Not all Deadheads are scum.
    

    
    	"not all deadheads are scum"
    Yes, I know, I already made that point many entries ago. It is in
    quotes because some one in the file had said they were.
    
    	Thank you for a sincere reply Jim. I too left the scene for similar
    reasons.
    
    			K.T.

 ZZ    "losers, scum, and bums."
    
    bumb.
    
    NNTTM

    
    	RE: .348/.349
    
    	Ahhh, I love the aura of a good "WHOOSH" in the morning.
    

    >I am not over reacting at all. 
    
     Wipe the spittle off your chin when you say that!

    no spittle here.

    >> Ok, so I typr too fast and spell wrong, I gues that makes me
    even more of an idiot huh? 
    
    No more so than Our Jack :-).
    
    >> I am not over reacting at all.   
    
    Er, yes, you are.  
    
    >>I would just like to come to an understanding or a reason why 
    people catorgize all Dead Head paraphanialia(sp.) with "losers, scum, 
    and bums.". That's all I want to know.
    
    Well, not all folks categorize them that way and those that do are
    narrow minded, ignorant, self righteous, anally retentive.  IMO of
    course.  
    
    Brian

    
    This notesfile ain't for the faint of heart.  It's somewhat of a
    freeforall.  That said, if you can thicken your skin a few layers you
    will learn some things and get some good information.  You will also
    find that the people of this file are some of the nicest folks around
    who would go out of their way to do something for others.  You will
    also see the camaraderie that exists as well.    
    
    
    hth,

BUMPERSTICKERSBUMPERSTICKERSBUMPERSTICKERSBUMPERSTICKERSBUMPERSTICKERS

Ahem.

Seen this morning:

                SAVE THE PLANET
                Kill yourself.
                
The car also had Deadhead stickers.

Art

    <----- Low life scum I betcha!

        Probably has a perpetual boner too.

| <<< Note 619.358 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "Captain Dunsel" >>>

| Probably has a perpetual boner too.

	it wasn't me....

    
    	Boner, not bonehead.
    

    
    
    Perhaps we can smooth things over with the newbie by offering him, say,
    
    The /nasser of the year Award??
    
    
    Or is it \nasser?
    

>                SAVE THE PLANET
>                Kill yourself.

    A friend recently committed suicide, but I still find that bumper
    sticker hilarious.

    -- Dave

 Having a 13 year old son who attempted suicide, I find it less than 
 hilarious..just as I did before his attempt.


 But, that's just me.



Jim

    
    
    >SAVE THE PLANET
    kill yourself
    
        Car also had deadhead stickers on it.
    
    
    Does that mean something different than if on a non-deadhead persons
    car? 
    
    	btw.....you'll know if I were to ever over react #1. I would admit
    it....and no, once again, I am not overreacting.
    
    	
    	       ----------------------
    	      |	D.A.R.E to think for | 
    	      |	      yourself       |
              ------------------------
    	
              
    
    
    

    
    Somebody missed her nap today.
    

    .364
    
    If you take anything that is directed at you in this file personally,
    you are overreacting.  Note, "overreacting" is one word, not two.
    
    If you decide to invest in an elephant's hide or, failing that, a good
    set of full body armor, you could learn to like it here.  And, as
    Wannamonkey said, there is a cameraderie in this file that I have found
    in very few other places.  People here are real people, they are mostly
    highly intelligent (except for Wannamonkey), and most of them would go
    far out of their way to help a fellow boxer.
    
    SOAPBOX:  Love it or leave it.

    <--- Amen.

    Yeah, and get ye to topic 19 so we can really have some fun at your
    expense.  

>>                     <<< Note 619.364 by STRATA::BARROWS >>>
    
>>    Does that mean something different than if on a non-deadhead persons
>>    car? 



	My goodness!!!   Chill out!!!   Calm down..... be cool!!

    
>>    Does that mean something different than if on a non-deadhead persons
>>    car? 

Of course, what are you a deadheadbanger or sumpin??

    
    
    	I am real too. I am just having a little fun. Is that so bad?
    
    All for a sake of opinion and arguement. If anyone has overreacted it
    is some of you guys.
    
    	So let's enjoy ok? 
    
    
    
                                     (Ford)
    	--------------         ----------------------------
        |EAT CHICKEN |         |Friends don't let friends |
        --------------         | drive rice burners       |
                               ----------------------------
    
    
    
     
    
    

    Seen on very oversized pickup truck:

        +-----------------------+
        |  Have you drive over  |
        |  a Ford lately?       |
        +-----------------------+

    They should have proof read that one before it went into production.

    .371
    
    You are not real until you've been vetted.  Hie thee to topic 19, where
    someone (prolly Steve Leech, since the departure of the old
    sheepshagger) will administer the box test.

    RE: .373

>    They should have proof read that one before it went into production.

    Well, what do you expect from people who drive oversize pickups?

    -- Dave

    ok, here you are, my answers to the test(2 tests)
    
    RE:19.707
    
    	no, no, no, ownership, no, good beer, no, independant, cats, yes, 
    yes, yes, tree-hugging etc..type, Barney? 1/2 no 1/2 yes(I have a 2 yr
    old son), no, no, no, yes, no, no, agin it.
    
    RE:19.811
    
    	no, no, no, fer, no, no, yes, no, like it, no, no, yes, no, 3,
    (mso)???, ???
    
    
    	So? Am I real now??

    RE: .376

    Is there a reason that you're answering questions from 19.* in 619.*?

    -- Dave

    
    If any o' youse see that "SAVE THE PLANET - Kill yourself" sticker for 
    sale, buy one and send me a note.  Will pay.  That's a classic.
    
    
    	<^)

    methinks Mr. Binder is picking a fight. invite her to the ring... :-)

    re: .376
    
    I'm passing out the secret electronic soapbox ballet now.  I'll let you
    know if you are voted as "real" or "virtual" by the boxmasses.
    
    You didn't score too bad on the admissions test...
    
    
    -steve  

 Soapbox ballet?  Now this oughta be interesting!

    Lady Di is as charming as a flock of doves and as gracious as a swan.

    > Soapbox ballet?  Now this oughta be interesting!
    
     Topes claims the official Soapbox ballet is in Tyngsboro.

	Great.... let me get out one of my tutu's. Should I grab the white, or
pink one?

    Tutu's black, actually.

| <<< Note 619.385 by SMURF::WALTERS >>>

| Tutu's black, actually.

	:-)

    	RE: .377
    
    	see .374 for answer to your question.
    
    	So, did I pass the test yet?

    You must go to topic 19.  Then and only then can you be recognized. 
    This is the bumper sticker note.  Please be more careful in the future
    to not clutter notes with information that does not pertain to the
    topic.  This file is highly organized and any side-tracking plays havoc
    on the contents and denizens.

    do not pass go.  go directly to topic 19.  do not collect $200.

    >Please be more careful in the future
    >to not clutter notes with information that does not pertain to the
    >topic.  This file is highly organized and any side-tracking plays havoc
    >on the contents and denizens.


    :)    good one Bri.

	re: jim henderson being a deadhead ...
	
	it wasn't all that long ago ..
	check out Note 225.0 in NECSC::GRATEFUL ;-)  ;-)
	
	(sorry, jum)
	

 eeesh.. ;-)

    will do!!

 no, please..

    
      Jim, I don't believe this.  If you were really a Deadhead, tell
     us the words to "Ripple"...
    
      bb

  being as we work in the same building, i can vouch for the fact
  that our muppet man was one-a them long-haired, tie-dye sportin',
  oh-wow-man types.
 

    well, all i know is that my presidential voting quandary 
    is ovah!!

    
    
    Roll another number, muppetman......

    
>      Jim, I don't believe this.  If you were really a Deadhead, tell
>     us the words to "Ripple"...
    
      

   Hey, I can even play it on the geetar.



 Jim

    
    	eat your own words and stick to the topic of bumper stickers.
    
    
    
    	----------------------------
         I am I am I can I did
    
    		OOOOPSS!!
 	----------------------------
    
    
    I saw this one, I don't get it.

    Aloof

    Rigid

    frigid

    scared puppy

    spring chicken

winter chicken

    hey, i've seen a few this week:
    
                   "i brew, therefore i am"  (yuck yuck)
    
    i can't print the other one cuz it was sexist and i shan't
    offend my brothers.

    
    
    How many brothers you got?? They older or younger than you??
    

    some are older; some are younger.

    
    
    	Is there anybody OUT there?

nope

    
    new one for my bumper:
    
    Politically correct is in the eyes of the beholder
    
    Should fit in nicely above "Grateful family values"
    
    

    
    	anyone know where I can find a peace sign bumper sticker? I want to
    put it next to my "crime control, not gun control" sticker. :*)
    
    
    jim

    
    }peace sign bumper sticker?
    
    
    	Why, yes, I do!! Newbury Comics, Mi Casa stands(at malls).
    
    	Or gee.....?? I have 3 I haven't used. But they're MINE I tell
    you.........MINE!!!!! (tee-hee)

    
    
    		ooopppsss, I meant sign.

    
    	RE: KT
    
    	set note 619.415/title = "Peace sign"
    

    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    			done.

    
    	Good job ... and thus concludes NOTES_INTRO 101.
    

Seen on a pickup over the weekend:


                LOVE IS GRAND.
                Divorce is fifty grand.
                

    
    
    	re: Mrs. Barrows
    
    
    	could I convince you to part with one of your extra peace symbols?
    hmmmmm.....? 
    
    
    jim

    
    
    re. 411  STRATA::BARROWS 
    
    
                          -< hello?? >-
    
    
    >Is there anybody OUT there?
    
    
      Interesting bumper sticker... where can I get one???
    

    
    
    
    	I can make one for ya.....here you go.
    
    
    	--------------------------
    	IS THERE ANYBODT OUT THERE?
    	---------------------------

    .423
    
    ####      ###
     ####      #
     ### #     #
     ###  #    #     ####
     ###   #   #   ###  ###
     ###    #  #  ###    ###
     ###     # #  ###    ###
     ###      ##   ###  ###
    #####      #     ####

    	Guess what i am.......
    
    
    	I get really dirty, I peel in the wet weather, People read me and
    some laugh and some shake thier heads in disgust. My owner is proud to
     have me , I hope, or he/she wouldn't have put me where I am 

    
    	"Kids who hunt and fish don't mug old ladies"
    
    	seen on a well worn pickup truck. :)
    
    

    
    >	"Kids who hunt and fish don't mug old ladies"
    
    
    	Ummm, at least not at the same time.
    

    
    	har har....
    
    

    
    	Well???   "what am I?"
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    		

    Ask us if we care - you'll get more answers that way.

    
    
    	Po po my Kundingy ok? I can see when I am being ingorned. Obviously
    you all can't stick to the subject you so deperately wanted to stick
    you previously............Bumper Stickers remember???

    
    	OK, are you a bumper sticker?
    

    deparately? that some kinda sniglet or sumthin? :-)

    re:.433--->see topic 19 for answer to spelling errors.
    
    
    	Yup, I am a bumper sticker. Yeah....you win the grand prize!!!!!!!

    
    	Grand prize, eh?  Ooh boy!!
    
    	What do I win?  Or will you let me decide that?
    

    it's fun to watch you troll, shawn.

                <----- heh heh heh heh heh heh heh.

    
    	You mean I can't request a copy of the new James Young CD?
    

    Ya Shawn, you troll!

    Naw, trolls are much better looking.

    
    	Oh, is that so?
    
    	Careful on the slopes if you're wearing white, pal ... if you
    	fall over you might just be mistaken for a mogul.
    

    
    	You win..............................zip, nada,
    zero....................

    Not to worry Shawn.  With all the Woephux @ Wachusett, one needn't wear
    white to be mistaken for something to run over.  

    
    
    
    	hi. bumperstickers anyone?

 no thanks.

    Seen this morning:
    
    What are you looking at
       D * C K N O S E
    
    
    And also:
    
    M E A N
    people
    S U C K
    
    Yes, they sure do...

>    And also:
>    
>    M E A N
>    people
>    S U C K
>    
>    Yes, they sure do...

See .26.

    I think it's pretty self explanatory...

    
    	RE: .445
    
    	I saw a Grateful Dead bumper sticker on some derelict junkie's
    	VW Camper.
    
    	Or is this a repeat?
    

    fwiw, that's where I saw the "Mean People Suck" bumpersticker..
    
    Along with: 
    
    	FUKENGRUVEN

	Gerald...everytime I try to go to .26. it doesn't let me. 

    Um, did you say please?
    
    8)

	let me try that.....

    
    
    	Happy happy Joy Joy!

    
    
    shouldn't this note be called " Bumpa Stickas"?? :)))

    
    
    	uhhh...like yeah, it should, but uhh like....no one's like
    talkin about it, like ok???

    Katy, there are other notes besides the bumper stickers and
    introduction notes. 
    
    nnttm, hth, ipa, kfc, lmnop

    
    katy, what Glenn is trying to say to you is: This conference has 644
    different toppings to choose from. You do not have to settle on just
    vanilla and chocolate.

    
    	Actually, I think there are only 15 or 20 different topics in
    	here.  It's confusing to a newcomer, though, since most of them
    	have different titles.
    
    	The other 620+ topics are just slight variations.
    

    
    	But, uh what if I don't want to read the other topics? Can't I 
    just hang around here and drive everyone insane?
    	I am not confused about anything as a newcomer....well....
    except you people ofcourse.
    	

    
    >	But, uh what if I don't want to read the other topics? Can't I 
    >just hang around here and drive everyone insane?
    
    
    	Jack Martin has been doing enough of this for at least 2 people,
    	so I don't see the need for you to join him.
    

    Jack Martin isn't falling apart anyways.

<---that's cuz he's not rotted...yet

    That's right!  I'm not a schitzo and neither am I!

<---that would make a great bumper sticker

    oops.

???

69 snarf!

	This may have made it in here already, but I thought it was funny.



		First Hillary

			Then Gennifer

				Now US!

    Silva,
    
    That WAS a good one :-)
    
    My personal fav still is....
    
    
   "A hard man is good to find"
    

<---that's a fave of mine, too!

    
    
    
    	yeah.
    

I don't think too many of these have been sold/given away:

"Thank me.  I voted Clinton/Gore!"

    
    	Haven't seen this, but I heard about it :
    
    	If God is your co-pilot,
    	Switch seats!!
    

    
    	Equal rights for preborn women
    
    

    re: .477
    
    Glad to see your wife has a sense of humour.
    
    Bob

    
    <----
    
    hey... if it makes one, just one feminist stop and think... maybe it's
    accomplished something?? (humour nonwithstanding of course...)
    

    
    619.77 by SCASS1::GUINEO::MOORE
    >"Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants" (I have some of these)
    
    I have finally proudly placed that bumper sticker on my car.  So far I
    have had every one nod in agreement that has read it.
    
    And yes, it does look good next to my Libertarian sticker.  
    
    Now if only the car looked better....
    
    	Skip

    
    > Now if only the car looked better.
    
    Put a bazooka on it.  Everyone will nod with approval (or fear).
    
    ;^)
    

 Saw this one today:


 Nixon in '96: Being dead is no excuse

    When I die, bury me in Chicago, so that I may remain politically
    active.
    
    (maybe that's why election day is so soon after Halloween...)

    
    Clinton/Gore '96
    
    You can't fool all people all the times;
    but twice would be nice !
    

    Save the Earth
    Kill yourself!

    Unless your a hemrrhoid
    Get off my A**

    
    	Yeah, I hate it when those bumper sticker companies screw up
    	the grammar like that.
    

    .486
    
    > Unless your a hemrrhoid...
    
    Reminds me of a remark my former manager (at another company) addressed
    to a woman who was tailgating him.  He stopped where she could not pass
    and went back to her car.  When she rolled down the window, he asked if
    her car wanted to <make babies with> his car.

    Vte for the scum bucket of your choice.

    
    i saw one this morning that reminded me of meg (not in a bad way, i
    just thought of you after i read it)...
    
    
    	born again pagan
    
    

I saw a car festooned with pro-life bumper stickers, etc.  I was surprised to
see a WGBH membership sticker on it.

    is WGBH pro-death?

    WGBH is public television. Liberals fantasize that conservatives don't
    give to such causes because they don't want to fund them by tax
    dollars.

    .493
    
    That fantasy , if real, is way off base.  Conservatives of my
    acquaintance give to NPR and PBS specifically because they DON'T want
    these services to require federal funding - the gummint can have too
    much say in what gets broadcast if the gummint is paying the bills.

Conservatives complain that public radio and TV are even more biased to the
left than the commercial networks are.  I wonder if there are any surveys
on the political views of WGBH viewers and members.

>Conservatives complain that public radio and TV are even more biased to the
>left than the commercial networks are.  
    
    Nonetheless, that doesn't mean there aren't programs whose content is
    deemed worthy of support "even by conservatives." Like Nature,
    Frontline, Nova, TNYW, the various cooking shows (a personal fave),
    etc.
    
    Not to mention fun events like the ice cream tasting, etc.

>    Nonetheless, that doesn't mean there aren't programs whose content is
>    deemed worthy of support "even by conservatives." Like Nature,
>    Frontline, Nova, TNYW, the various cooking shows (a personal fave),
>    etc.

Shades of the Peace Tax Fund Bill!  If you give money to support the stuff
you like, won't it also effectively support the stuff you don't?

    Dems da berries. 

And in any event, it's better that the money come from private citizens, 
even us deranged conservatives, than from the Federal budget.

If we're lucky, we may get them to start carrying Rush ....



:^)

    Have you Hugged Your Snarf Today???

    
    
     Ignorant idiot with this one yesterday...
    
    
    
    "Homophobia is a social disease"

    Why is that ignorant, Andy?  What is ignorant about asserting 
    homophobia or <insert prejudice of choice> is a socially deviant 
    behavior?  
    
    Brian

    
    	Actually, Brian's right ... so either your thinking cap isn't
    	on correctly or you just plain disagree with the premise.
    

    
    
    Brian,
    
     It's ignorant because a"phobia" is not a disease...
    
     phobia is not a "<insert prejudice of choice>" option..
    
    
    If you're gonna do it, do it right...

    
    	It's a pun of sorts.
    

OK, homophobia is an erroneous neologism.  It makes the bogus claim that
hatred of homosexuals is the result of fear of homosexuals.  But the word
has been established, and there's not much that can be done about it.

    Phobias aren't by their primary definition illogical and abnormal
    fears?  Homophobia isn't prejudicial against gays?  Perhaps
    homophobia is merely a natural abhorance of unnatural behaviors?
    
    Why is it an ignorant statement?
    
    Brian
    

Phobia means fear.  Homophobia means hatred of homosexuals.  Fear <> hatred.

    Yabbut, clinically a phobia is defined as an irrational fear.  For
    homophobia to be a disease, you'd have to prove that the fear was
    irrational out of all proportion to the threat.

    
    	RE: Gerald
    
    	Is that what "homophobia" means, or is that what you understand
    	it to mean?  I think the definition is more in line with Colin's
    	"irrational fear" remark.
    

Yo, Glen, what does homophobia mean?

    Means a gay who likes to go for beer in Boston.

    No, that's homosapiens.

    
    RE: .507
    
    Brian...
    
    
     It is NOT a disease!!!!!!!!
    
    I have ophidlophobia (fear of snakes)... 
    
    Show me one doctor/shrink who will classify my condition as a
    disease...
    
     It's still an ignorant statement...
    

    
    There are some phobic conditions which are not strictly mental
    disorders too.  Acute photophobia is one.

    
    >Acute photophobia is one.
    
    	Fear of baby pictures?
    

    Yeah.  Deb has it.
    

    
    And its counterpart, woodenspoonophilia.
    

    Look up disease in the dicto., Andy.  Phobias can very easily fit into
    those definitions.  So, once again, why is it an ignorant statement?  
    
    Brian

    
    	Better known as "paddlophilia".
    

    
    I have a pledge paddle, but I've never paddled anyone with it.
    

What brand of furniture polish do you use on that paddle, Deb?

    
    
    	I don't know about y'all, but I'm going to send Andy a rubber snake
    in the mail...;*)
    
    

    Oph won't be too happy about that

| <<< Note 619.504 by SOLVIT::KRAWIECKI "tumble to remove jerks" >>>



| It's ignorant because a"phobia" is not a disease...
| phobia is not a "<insert prejudice of choice>" option..
| If you're gonna do it, do it right...

	I have to admit, Andy has a point. Time to take that bumber sticker off
my car... :-) 

That's bumper, you bumb.

    andy has ophiphobia?  ;-(

    
    re: .528
    
    >andy has ophiphobia?  ;-(
    
    No dear... you're safe... or maybe not...
    
    :)
    

    
    re: .523
    
    >I don't know about y'all, but I'm going to send Andy a rubber snake
    >in the mail...;*)
    
    
      Can you say "knee-cap"???
    
    
     I knew you could!!!
    
    

    
    re: .519
    
    Fine Brian... I'm not going to get into a semantic battle with you.
    Suffice to say that I'me diseased and let it go at that...
    

    phew.

	There are too many people who are classified under the homophobia
umbrella that really aren't. They are just ignorant. And being ignorant is not
a put down, it just means they do not know about, or the truth about gays and
lesbians. 

	Someone could say that all gays get together wearing dresses for one 
massive orgy, and not be homophobic. The remark is a homophobic type remark,
but it doesn't mean they are homophobic.

	To *me*, homophobia is someone who fears the b/g/l/t community, and
because of that, they could lash out at, or lie about gays. Some of these
people are gay themselves. I was one of them. So afraid of becoming one, I
would do whatever I could to put them in their place. Well, where I thought
their place was. The typical lower than human place. I was VERY homophobic.

	When I did finally accept who I was, I still had the same fears. So
even though I was gay, I was still homophobic. It came down to realizing that
being effeminate is not something that is bad, having a lisp does not make
someone a lesser human being, gay men don't sleep with anything that moves,
lesbians aren't going to beat me up, things like that. And as these things were
going on, it ate away at the homophobia. Mainly because I went out and found
out what the truth was.

	So now you have a better understanding of why I talk about the b/g/l/t
community. I don't want others to end up like me. 



Glen

    Why say "gays and lesbians" all the time? Why not just say "homosexuals" ? 

    
    	Same number of syllables, Glenn.
    

    
    good point.. :>
    
    but what is the "t" in b/g/l/t???
    
    

    Yes, but you're still separating them by sex. Heterosexuals have no
    such distinction when they are referred to as a group.

    Transsexuals.  They are not gay or lesbian or, necessarily, bi.

You could just call all of 'em Weirdosexuals.

    thanks...all i could think of was, well nevermind..... :>
    
                                                       

    actually, I believe that the "t" is more properly "transgendered"
    
    It is more inclusive of the different permutations of gender
    misalignment [for lack of a better term]

| <<< Note 619.534 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "Spank you very much!" >>>

| Why say "gays and lesbians" all the time? Why not just say "homosexuals" ?

	It's really b/g/l/t.... :-)

	I guess because the word homosexuals seems to be applied to men more
than to anyone else. 


Glen

| <<< Note 619.536 by BARSTR::JANDROW "i think, therefore i have a headache" >>>


| but what is the "t" in b/g/l/t???

	Transgendered

| <<< Note 619.537 by SMURF::BINDER "Uva uvam vivendo variat" >>>

| Transsexuals.  They are not gay or lesbian or, necessarily, bi.

	Transexuals make up part of it, but not all. Transvestites is another
piece of the pie. 

	In any of the T groups, you will have some who are b/g/l's, and some
who are not. A crossdresser, transsexual, or transvestite could be straight, or
not. It really depends on the person.


Glen

    And is heterosexual as a term applied more to men?
    
    I never understood why, and I guess I still don't. Guess I'm Evian.

| <<< Note 619.538 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "Spank you very much!" >>>

| Yes, but you're still separating them by sex. Heterosexuals have no
| such distinction when they are referred to as a group.

	Glen, it still comes down to how the words are used. 

    So, now I'm wondering. Are the transvestites on the ceiling?

| <<< Note 619.539 by COVERT::COVERT "John R. Covert" >>>


| You could just call all of 'em Weirdosexuals.

| -< Even heterosexual perversions would be included therein >-


	To think that I used to say a lot of the same things you do is a scary
thought for me.

| <<< Note 619.545 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "Spank you very much!" >>>

| And is heterosexual as a term applied more to men?

	No, it is not. But when you have people who say homosexuals sodomize
one another, that usually means men. While anyone can do it, the end result is
they talk about the menz with this.



Glen

| but what is the "t" in b/g/l/t???

Trisexuals.  They'll try anything sexual.

    
    	RE: .547
    
    	8^)
    

    >>Suffice to say that I'me diseased and let it go at that...
    
    Andy, your words not mine.  I have not accused you of being diseased
    because of your fear of snakes.  FWIW, a societal condition can also
    be considered a disease.  
    
    Brian 

re: .550

   No, that's "try-sexual".  As in, "I'll try anything...  Once!"  :-)

   -- Sam

re .553

Gotta explain every joke, eh?

    
    	He doesn't want you to feel left out, John.
    

<grin>

  So what would you say iff'n you wanted to order a bacon/gouda/lettuce/tomato
   sandwich???
kb

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    	Have you hugged your assault weapon today?
    
    

    
    WARNING
    
    Contact with parts of this box can cause electric shock and death!
    
    KEEP AWAY !

    	Clinton / Gore '96
    
    	We can't fool all the people all the time;
    	but twice would be nice !

    
    Seen yesterday...
    
    "My Other Car is a Broom"

    Naw,
    
    However the number of these I see around town, I wish I had started
    that one.  
    
    

    This may have already been mentioned, but yesterday I saw a brand new
    Ford F150 with a sticker that showed a picture of Bill and Hillary. Next
    to it was the statement:
    
    		Dual Air Bags.
    

I saw this message in gold leaf lettering, old English font, on the back
window of a car this morning:

                Your College Sucks.

         I think a good bumper sticker would be one that has the message
    "Ask Me About Your Wife".

    -1 You would.

      I saw a bumper sticker that had a nucular explosion and said made in
    America, Tested in Japan.
    
      -BG 
    
    p.s. my apollogies to anyone this may offend I don't have the stcker I
    just saw it. 

    re -1
    
    Hey! That was my car!