Conference back40::soapbox

    
    Dino Valenti, 57.
    
    Former lead singer of Quicksilver Messenger Service.
    
    Wrote the tune "Come on, people, now, smile on your brother..".
    
    Brain Tumor.

 Bummer...I always liked his music.  Saw him one time years ago at the
 Fillmore in SF and he was actually booed off the stage..Bill Graham (RIP)
 came out and read the riot act to the audience.



Jim

    
    SFPD Officer Jim Guelff's funeral is this afternoon.
    
    He was shot by the nutter in the Pac Heights fracas
    leaving behind his two kids ages 8 and 6.
    
    They are closing the GG Bridge at 1pm to allow the 
    procession to cross.
    
    

"Let me tell you a story 'bout Minnie the Moocher.
 She was a lowdown hoochie-koocher."



Cab Calloway passed away in Delaware last evening at the age of 86.

 heard him do a delightful version of the Star Spangled Banner one time...he 
 mangled it beautifully..





 Jim

        Time to watch Jake and Elwood again.
        
        
        
        

    
    
    That suz.  Old Cab was still tearing it up til the end.
    

    	I remember him in "The Littlest Angel"

    Jerry Rubin, former yippee, age 56, from injuries sustained
    when hit by a car two weeks ago.

	Actually, he had a heart attack while recovering.

    
    Buster Edwards, a leading member of Britain's `Great Train Robbery' 
    gang, was found dead yesterday after apparently hanging himself.
    He was portrayed by Phil Collins in the movie `Buster'.
     

    If Phil Collins played me in a movie I'd hang myself too

Elizabeth Glaser died Saturday at the age of 47.  Tragic set of 
circumstances - Elizabeth became infected with the HIV virus through a blood 
transfusion given to her when she was nine months pregnant with her 
daughter, Ariel.  Four years later, Ariel became ill.  Four months after 
that the doctors tested for HIV and Elizabeth tested positive.  She had 
passed the virus to Ariel through her breast milk and had also given the 
virus to her second child, Jake, in vetero.  Ariel died at the age of 7.  
Jake has shown no signs of AIDS *yet*.  Elizabeth was the wife of actor Paul 
Michael Glaser (Starsky and Hutch) and became an AIDS activist.  You may 
remember an album from a couple of years ago called "Disney for our 
Children" - the album cover was a picture that Ariel had drawn and proceeds 
went to the paediatric Aids foundation.  You may also remember a very 
stirring speach that Elizabeth made during the 1992 Democratic convention - 
it brought tears to my eyes then, and it did again when I saw news clips 
over the weekend.  PM Glaser was not infected with the virus but I can't 
imagine that his pain is any less having already lost his wife and daughter 
and maybe his son.  What a tragedy.

    It was indeed a tragedy.  
    
    By the way, I find it reprehensible that the democrat party used that
    at the convention.  I hope people finally realize that they don't care
    any more than their friends on the other side of the isle!
    
    -Jack

	You'd never know it by listening to them Jack.

    Which one is Paul??? the blond or the mustache? :-( :-(

	blond is David Soul.  (heck of a singer - yah, right)

    I thought the other guy in Starsky and Hutch was married to the actress
    with a southern accent, black hair, large bosomed... what is her name? 
    She was kicked of her sitcom and got really, really fat...
    

    Well, it's true Glen.  That's what makes those people evil.  At least 
    guys like Pat Buchanan, regardless of how you feel about him, will at
    least have the integrity to say it to your face.
    
    Nancy, Starsky (Glaser) was the dark haired one.  The blond was
    Hutch...remember...
    
    Don't give up on us baby...
    Don't make that wrong...seem right....
    The future isn't just one night....
    
    It's written in the moon light....
    painted on the stars..we can't change ours....
    
    Don't give up on us baby....
    Lord knows we've come...this far....
    can't we change the way we are....
    
    The angel and..the dreamer...
    who sometimes..plays the fool....
    
    Don't give up on a sigh note....
    We can still come through...........
    
    Hutch sang that song.  
    
    -Jack

    .18  -- sounds like you're confusing Starsky and Hutch, which ran in
    the 70's, with Simon and Simon, which ran in the 80's.
    
    Both programs were inane.

     >>>       blond is David Soul.  (heck of a singer - yah, right)
    
    Diane, it is people like you who are closet Partridge Family listeners.
    You probably have their two albums...PLUS...David Cassidy's brother....
    
    I met a little girl and her name was Jill..
    Da Do Ron Ron Ron Da Do Ron Ron!!!

    Nancy:
    
    You are thinking of Major Dad (From Simon and Simon) who was married to
    the woman from (Designing Women).  
    
    -Jack

    Major Dud... married to Delta (Mooo) Burke, who at one time starred on
    a football show (First and Ten) on HBO... when she was less than half
    the woman that she is now... <wink wink>
    
    -b

    Oh yes... thank you, deep sigh... relief... :-)  I'm confused and like
    I know it!!!

>>     <<< Note 40.24 by JULIET::MORALES_NA "Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze" >>>
>>                             -< I'm blonde today >-

	just what we need - women keeping the myth alive.

    Oh and by the way Glen:
    
    The exec producer of designing women is a female.  Yes...a female who
    kicked Burke off her own show because she is horizontally challenged!
    
    More disingenuous bunk from the looney left!!  They lack compassion and
    what's more, they are very nasty about it!
    
    -Jack

    Re: .26
    
    >a female who kicked Burke off her own show because she is horizontally 
    >challenged!
    
    Delta Burke was feuding with the producers for months before they
    booted her.

    
    ...horizontally challenged?

     She was also in a sitcom called Filty Rich (I think)... Not only
     half the woman, but quite a beautiful and shapely one.
    
     Chip

    
    .29 
    
    Nancy, I think you misunderstood Lady Di's remark.

>>    Oh brother Di, that was a sexist remark you just made.  Since when are
>>    only women blonde?

	since when does the "dumb blonde" label conjure up images of
	blond men?  don't give me that crap.

    Di,
    
    What myth is that????  Are you talking sexist or just blonde jokes in
    general?  
    
    Sense of humor impaired today?
    

   >> Sense of humor impaired today?
    
    no

    Aw... I wasn't mistaking your note... thought I might be and out of
    couresty deleted and asked.
    
    So by the intonation of your last note... I'd say you are humor
    impaired today or should I take it personal?
    
    Nancy
    

>>    So by the intonation of your last note... I'd say you are humor
>>    impaired today or should I take it personal?

    take it "personal" if you like.  i would have said the same thing
    to any other woman.

    .36
    
    Aw I see...  well I've certainly had those days where my sensitivity
    hi-flux capacitor went of the richter scale.
    
    I accept your criticism.
    
    Nancy

    
>>    Aw I see...  well I've certainly had those days where my sensitivity
>>    hi-flux capacitor went of the richter scale.

	you needn't project.  

 Re: Mz. Debra---
    
 >>       ...horizontally challenged?
    
    Yeah, that's PC talk for fat!
    
    Regarding my two favorite moderators (from different conferences and
    such), please don't fight.  I hate to see you two fight!!!!

| <<< Note 40.18 by JULIET::MORALES_NA "Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze" >>>

| I thought the other guy in Starsky and Hutch was married to the actress
| with a southern accent, black hair, large bosomed... what is her name?
| She was kicked of her sitcom and got really, really fat...

	The guy that's married to her was on Major Dad. For the life of me I
can't think of her name though...


Glen

    Start at reply .23...

| <<< Note 40.19 by AIMHI::JMARTIN "Barney IS NOT a nerd!!" >>>

| Well, it's true Glen.  That's what makes those people evil.  At least
| guys like Pat Buchanan, regardless of how you feel about him, will at
| least have the integrity to say it to your face.


	Jack, do you really think the PB's of the world tell you everything to
your face? I mean to your face publically.


Glen

>>	The guy that's married to her was on Major Dad. For the life of me I
>>can't think of her name though...


	Delta Burke?

	And his name is something.....Raney  (sp??)

| <<< Note 40.26 by AIMHI::JMARTIN "Barney IS NOT a nerd!!" >>>


| The exec producer of designing women is a female.  Yes...a female who
| kicked Burke off her own show because she is horizontally challenged!

	Gee Jack, I heard she got kicked off the show because she was such a
pain in the butt. But then I heard she quit. You hear so much about
celeberties, but how much of it is true? Oh yeah, I heard Doris Day is a bag
lady.


Glen

    
    Gerald Raney?

    	McRaney

 Gerald Mcraney died?

    
    No!  No!
    
    oh dear.

    The Today Show did a segment on Elizabeth Glaser this AM.  EG was
    quite a lady; she is credited with raising in excess of $30M for the
    Pediatrics Aid Foundation thru her direct efforts.
    
    At the end of the segment, they did mention that the son (age 10)
    is now HIV positive; but no full-blown aids yet :-(
    
    

    
    Carlos Joabim(sp)
    
    Brasilian Bossanova pioneer, wrote "The Girl From Ipanema",
    died during heart surgery.

 .50  8^(

    "The Girl From Ipanema" *is* my favorite song.  
    Has been for 30 years 8^(

    Jobim, actually.
    
    Sad news. He wrote a number of wonderful songs.

 Antonio Carlos..., actually, methinks.
 
 and yep, he sher did.

    
    Desafinado, Wave, Samba De Uma Nota So....
    
    								-mr. bill

 Uma?

    Una -- as in One Note Samba.

>>    Una -- as in One Note Samba.

	er, yah, no kidding.

    typo -- as in the notur cain't speel
    
    								-mr. bill

    Well, DD..., if you could see it was a type, why'd you bother?

	i think he wrote "foi saudade" too, although i'm
	not sure of that spelling.  that's a great tune.

>>    Well, DD..., if you could see it was a type, why'd you bother?

	one takes pleasure in giving mr. bill, in his infinite wisdom
	and fairly tactile superiority, a hard time whenever possible.  ;>

    lester died today.
    
    lester was my pet cockroach i had in a jar for a few weeks. he will be
    given a decent burial tonight when i take him over to a friends place
    and put him in their tarantula cage. RIP.

    
    
    condolences, Gene.

    
    But a lucky break for the tarantula.

	There's always the burning pyre to consider .....%^)

No pyre for the cockroach. Lace him to the side of a Whistling Moon Traveler
With Report using cotton thread, stand it in a coke bottle, light fuse and
get away.

	Nothing like going out in style....%^)

    
    Give it a dignified burial.
    
    Place it in your soup in a fancy restraunt and demand a free meal
    before you tell the press.
    
    They'll dispose of the dear departed via the garbage disposer.

Wow, Gene.  Was that a sealed jar with no air, food, etc.?
If so, I'm mighty impressed if it lasted a couple of weeks.

    no joanne. i put some holes in the lid to air him out.
    
    oh. and we found the runaway hampster. several months on the loose in
    the basement and i trapped him. enough was by god enough. 
    
    so we can count "ricky" among the lately departed.

    No food, tho, so that's still pretty good.
    
    Still impressed.   Were you keeping at home or in the office?
    It would seem pretty symbolic in a decccccceeeeeeeee facility.
    
    If you catch another, I'll trade it for the dirty photo in my
    desk.   ;^)
    

	A friends son passed away. May he rest in peace and may she find the
strength to continue on....


jim

|>>    Well, DD..., if you could see it was a type, why'd you bother?
|
|	one takes pleasure in giving mr. bill, in his infinite wisdom
|	and fairly tactile superiority, a hard time whenever possible.  ;>
    
    How nice.
    
    Oh, BTW, "Samba De Uma Nota So" is correct.  Which means you are wrong.
    
    Now, appologize to Antonio Carlos Jabim.
    
    								-mr. bill

    
    Whens the wake for the roach??

    You don't have a wake for a roach. You just collect 'em in a jar until
    you got enough to roll another big one. YVW.
    
    -b

    you're very welcome

    <<< Note 40.83 by WFOV12::STONE_A "watch out where the huskeys go..." >>>
                               -< Ah! Thanks!!! >-
    
    No, get into the spirit of things.
    TYVM
    (Thank you very much)
    
    yvm

|	one takes pleasure in giving mr. bill, in his infinite wisdom
|	and fairly tactile superiority, a hard time whenever possible.  ;>
    
>>    How nice.

    yes, isn't it.  just following suit, mr. bill.
    
>>    Now, appologize to Antonio Carlos Jabim.

    who he?

    
    The newspapers published an obituary on Monday saying that General
    Stanislaw Maczek, organizer and commander of the Polish First Armored
    Division which fought in France, Belgium, the Netherlands, and northern
    Germany, died Sunday in Edinburgh. He was 102.   
    
    Gen. Maczek was the last surviving senior Allied commander of WWII.  He
    fled Poland after the German invasion in 1939, then later escaped from
    France to England whenFrance surrendered.  He formed the Polish First
    Armored Division near Duns, Scotland.  He was known as Baca, or "good
    shepherd," to his men.  The Polish First Armored landed at Normandy,
    and fought a decisive action at the Falaise Gap.  
    
    Gen Maczek was accused of treachery by the Polish Communist government
    and was stripped of his citizenship, and he settled in Edinburgh with 
    many of his soldiers.  In 1989, the democratic Polish government issued 
    a formal apology.  This year we was awarded the Order of the White Eagle,
    Poland's  highest decoration.
    
    He will be buried at the Polish cemetery in Breda, Holland.
              
    -- 
    
    ...Jim Holton
    jim_holton@cellbio.duke.edu
    

    Heard on the news this a.m. that Dean Rusk passed away.
    
    Dan

	who is that?

RE:     <<< Note 40.89 by BIGQ::SILVA "Nobody wants a Charlie in the Box!" >>>




>	who is that?




   Dean Rusk was secretary of State under JFK.

	Thanks Jim

    
    And he invented those little biscuits that bebbes chomp on.

    Feh, I hated those.

    
    Peter Cook, British comedian and one-time partner in comedy to
    Dudley Moore, at 57.

	.94  oh man.  bummer!

    Peter Cook:
    
    One of the Beyond The Fringe people that were the inspiration to
    Monty Python (I think at least John Cleese was also involved with
    BTF).
    
    He appeared as the priest who married Princess Buttercup and
    Prince Humperdinck in the movie "The Princess Bride". He
    was very very funny. "Mawwiage.... Wuv. Twue Wuv...."
    
    He also appeared with Dudley Moore, as mentioned earlier, in
    many sketches on British and American television. One I
    remember was the "Frog and Peach" sketch they did on Saturday
    night live, in which Moore was interviewing Cook about his
    restaurant (the "F&P"). A true classic... which inspired
    the name, as I mentioned in yesterday's "Things To Like",
    of the latest album of jazz keyboardist Charles Carpenter.
    
    He will most certainly be missed.
    
    -b

    Peter Cook was also in a sitcom with Mimi Kennedy (?) in the early
    1980's, where he played her housekeeper or butler, and she played
    a single mother who was a television show producer or actor or talk
    show host.  He made the whole show worth watching.  It didn't last
    all that long, though (a couple of seasons at most), and I wish I
    could remember the title of the series.
    
    The interplay between the obnoxious daughter (Dana somebody, Hill?)
    and Peter Cook was priceless, at least in the earlier episodes.
    
    Chris

>    Peter Cook was also in a sitcom with Mimi Kennedy (?) in the early

Oh... I know this one... Oh... Was it just "The Butler" or something
simple like that?

Of course... it doesn't help to have "Mr. Belvedere" stuck in my head,
either...

/scott

    I just called my wife to check my "Harry's and Wally's" book,
    and the series was called "The Two of Us", 1981-1982.  I guess
    I was way off with the names I was coming up with... now there's
    a generic title. :-)
    
    The daughter character was named "Gabby"... now I remember her.
    
    Chris

    Its gonna be tough getting Mr. Belvider [sic] unstuck from your head
    now won`t it?

    Waht exactly is a Gastro-intestinal haemorrhage (sp?)

SWAG: Uncontrolled bleeding somewhere in either the stomach or intestine(s)?

Please don't tell us you have one.

 Doesn't sound terribly pleasant whatever it is..

    It is what caused the tragic death of Peter Cook.

Didn't realize that. As Jim already said, quite unpleasent.

Is your lunch still intact today, Martin?

    Well I ate it about 1:45 (now 2:35) and it stayed where I hoped
    it would.

Hmmm. I must get a better sense of the time difference. I only
recalled your mention yesterday that you'd already eaten your
lunch (and I was looking at the reply in the morning.)

Hope it was tasty.

    >   Hope it was tasty.
    
    Well it didn't sit on the plate long !!!

    I think Peter Cook`s daily routine was wake up and have a double vodka
    and a lager. Then go down his 3 local pubs in Hemel Hempstead until
    about 3,then go down the off license and return with a bottle of whisky
    or 2. On top of that,he smoked about 60 fags a day.
    
    He did well to survive to 57 on that lot. Still,he will be missed.
    He was up there with the greats,like Les Dawson,Tommy Cooper and 
    Frankie Howerd.
    

    it was the lager that killed him, that stuff is bad for you.  if he'd
    been on bitter, he'd prolly still be hale and hearty.

    
    
    Ron Luciano, former AL umpire, writer; at 57
    

    re: Ron Luciano
    
    I'm sorry to hear that... what a character he was.  I've read a
    couple of his books, funny and entertaining stuff.  He made the
    game more interesting, that's for sure.  Some purists didn't like
    his antics, but hey, the whole thing is for entertainment in the
    end, so I always enjoyed him.
    
    Chris

| <<< Note 40.110 by 45796::COOKS "Half Man,Half Biscuit" >>>


| On top of that,he smoked about 60 fags a day.


	He ended up with big cheek muscles, huh?

    
    I remember him punching out Jimmy Rice down the first base line.
    He had all 300+ lbs of jelly going in synch with a triple punch-pull.
    
    He worked harder on that play than Rice, who dogged it when the
    infielder made the play !
    
    Didn't he marry "Chesty" Morgan for a while ?  Ron Luciano was sure
    something !
    
      bb

    >On top of that,he smoked about 60 fags a day.
    
    Sounds like Jeffry Dahmer! :-)
    
    -b

    BB: 
    
    What a riot!  I remember that exact play...laughed my head off!

    
    RE: .115
    
    He was a bachelor...
    
    He certainly made the game more enjoyable....
    
    I remember a few "tiffs" he had with Earl Weaver....  Classics!

    
    
    Yup, Earl and he had one of theose love hate relationships. :')

| <<< Note 40.116 by MPGS::MARKEY "Wewease Woger!" >>>


| >On top of that,he smoked about 60 fags a day.

| Sounds like Jeffry Dahmer! :-)

	That was ate, wasn't it Brian???

    Well, smoked as in sausage, or smoked as in killed. Take your pick.
    Works either way.
    
    -b

	Jimmy Dean!!!

    no, glen, jimmy dean is still with us, it was james dean who stacked up
    a porsche speedster.

	But Dick, Brian said I could have sausages when talking about Dalmer. I
want Jimmy Dean!!!!

	Rose Kennedy, 104.

    
    No.  Really??  Oh dear.  She had a long and trouble filled life, tho
    8^(.

    
    
    she was exactly (well, at least according to the day) 104-1/2 years
    old...my digital anniversary is her b-day...
    
    

                    -< so that makes 3-1/2 years for me... >-

	raq, ya only got 101 more to go! 

Savannah, star of many adult videos, of a self-inflicted gun shot wound.
Don't know any other details.

    Savannah killed herself about two month ago. Drugs and I guess not
    being able to get out of the porno business lead to her suicide. I
    think she was about 25. 

 Bummer.  As a former customer of the "industry" of which she was a part, I
 feel a great deal of sadness over those who are caught up in that whole
 scene, particularly the "stars".  May she rest in peace.




 JIm

    
    To make a long story short she died quite some time ago. She hadn't
    done a movie in quite a while and finally got a part. On her way home
    she was involved in a car accident which broke her nose and busted up
    her face. Feeling depressed over this as she now might lose her part
    in the film and be scarred for life, she committed suicide.
    
    Walt

    she certainly was a good-looking gel
    
    ric

    
    Last week, Donald Pleasance, at 75.
    

    
    This week, Doug McClure, at 59.

    Was he the blonde guy who played a cowboy in a weekly series back in
    the 60's?  And most recently the Mayor of the city of the teenager with
    alien powers?
    
    

 He played a cowboy, but don't know about the mayor part...he also had a bit
 part in the movie "Maverick"



 Jim

    -1 Doug McClure?

 Yeah

	He was one of the poker players to make it to the semi-final
	round (or whatever) of play during the big event.

	When I saw him, I was trying to remember which Western he used to
	be on.  I used to watch it all the time.  I thought maybe it
	was the series "Maverick", and that that was why he was in the
	movie, but I'm not sure.  It doesn't seem right.

 I don't think he was in the TV series (though he might have made an
 appearance).  There were a bunch of old western stars in there, which
 generated a rather lengthy discussion between my companion that evening,
 as she and I disagreed on whether or not Denver Pyle was in the movie (which
 of course he was).




Jim

There were lots of "faces" tucked into the poker
tournament, including some C&W singers -- Clint
Black and Waylon Jennings come to mind.  I was
amazed at all the names when I took another look
at the closing credits.

 Yep...Waylon's wife was in there as well..





Jim

    	Doug McClure used to play Trampas on the 1960's show
    	"The Virginian."
    
    	Scott

	.146  ahhhh...yes!! thank you.

    Did he play in Sugar Foot too?

If you look at the title of .137, you'll see that Trampas was mentioned before.

	That didn't help me remember it was "The Virginian".

RE:                       <<< Note 40.148 by MAIL2::CRANE >>>

   > Did he play in Sugar Foot too?



   Wil Hutchins played the title role in Sugarfoot.




 Jim

    .151
    Thanks.

 
    >Yep...Waylon's wife was in there as well..

    
    When you say "Waylon", do you mean Jessi Colter's husband 8^)?




Jim

 Yup :-)

    
    Well, I did think it was Colter, but I could be wrong.  Could we have a
    third opinion?

 You could be right, actually.  Interestingly I saw she and her husband
 on the cover of one of the checkout tabloids at the grocery store..


 

 Jim

Doug McLure played the sherrif in the series "billy the kid" (circa 1959-60)

He played in a lot of westerns in various bit-parts.

Amos

 Who played "Billy the Kid" in that show?

	I keep hearing Doug McClure, but I keep thinking of the Simpson's
variation of it. 


	"Hi, I'm <what name do they use?>. You may remember me in blah blah
blah"

	(retired) Senator Fulbright.

  Troy Mclure died?

    .162
    Ok, I`ll bit...Who is Troy Mclure?

 .163





 Beats me

    
    Sorry, didn't mean to scare you there...I was just answering Glen's
    (or is that Geln's?) question in .159.
    
    Rest assure that Troy McClure, star of such films as `Five Flaming
    Kung-Fu Fingers Of Death' and `Undead Alien Robots' is alive and
    well and living in Springfield.
    

| <<< Note 40.163 by MAIL2::CRANE >>>

| Ok, I`ll bit...Who is Troy Mclure?

	You already bit?????? hmmmm....... 

	Add Troy Mclure into the .159 equation....

    .166
    
    I know at least 50 women that would disagree with ya. :')

	Ohhhh Judy, you remembered a couple of his movies! How sweet....

	That you hadn't bit, or don't bite....

    .169
    Both.

	How many people think Crane bites!!!???  :-)

    I think Doug McClure has been in more TV series than just about
    anyone else, except possibly Harry Morgan or Shelley Fabares.
    I'll have to look this up in one of my TV books when I get home.
    I'm pretty sure the last one was the "Space Alien Teenaged Girl"
    show with Donna Pescow whose title escapes me (something generic
    like "Out of This World", or whatever).
    
    Chris

    .171
    Don`t you know the only one in this note that could actually bit would
    be Dracular! Crane doesn`t bite in any notes file anyway. 

>    Dracular!

Moved to Eastern Mass, did he?

| <<< Note 40.173 by MAIL2::CRANE >>>


| Crane doesn`t bite in any notes file anyway.

	I know... he just bites.....PERIOD!!!!!  :-)

    
    	re: 40.155
    
    	It's Jessie Colter...
    
    	Regards,
    	Michelle Coulter (read only usually ;*)

    >MOLAR::DELBALSO "I (spade) my (dogface)"
    
    >    Dracular!

    >Moved to Eastern Mass, did he?

    
    I'm ROLLING!

 Re .178


 Well you *did* spell Jessie wrong ;-)

    
    We were only disputing the spelling of Colter 8^p!
    
    (I think this particular argument should win the "Ron-Warrenfeltz-we're-not-
    discussing-THAT-book-we're-discussing-The-Late-Great-Planet-Earth"
    award 8^).)

 Well, that's what *you* were discussing ;-)

Turns out that Doug McClure was a pretty busy guy, but didn't have as
many series as I'd believed; I found five:

Checkmate		1960-1962
The Virginian		1962-1971
Search			1972-1973
Barbary Coast		1975-1976
Out of This World	1987-1989(?)

...which doesn't come close to Shelley Fabares' eight series, but is
nonetheless a respectable volume of work overall.

Chris

 Ooh...I'd forgotten about Checkmate..that was set in SF and among others
 Sebastion Cabot was in it..can't remember who else though.



Jim

    
    "out of this world"??  i know that show...which one was he????
    
    

Oo, ooh!  I remember Checkmate!  Wasn't it some kind of detective show?

    Doug McClure played the mayor of the city that the "space alien
    teenaged girl", her mother, and her crystal Daddy voice (Burt
    Reynolds) lived in.  Donna Pescow ("Angie", "Saturday Night Fever")
    played the mother.  Not a bad show, for a low-budget syndicated sitcom.
    
    Chris

>Oo, ooh!  I remember Checkmate!  Wasn't it some kind of detective show?




 Yep..it opened with a neat scene of the ocean crashing around the rocks
 which as I recall was right near the Cliff House in SF.  Wish I could re-
 member the 3rd star in it..



Jim

    re: Checkmate
    
    Yes, it was a sophisticated detective show set in San Francisco
    if I recall, but I don't remember much more about it (I was too
    young to be watching quality stuff like that!) other than Sebastian
    Cabot.  I'll look up this one again over the weekend...
    
    Chris

>    Yes, it was a sophisticated detective show ...

It must have been sophisticated cuz I remember liking it.  I was a very
sophisticated 7 to 9 year old.

The 'box score for political awarness and interest:

Doug McClure	75
J.W. Fullbright  1

 Well, in how many TV shows did Fulbright appear?

Speaking of political awarEness, you misspelled Fulbright.  I guess that
disqualifies you from a Fulbright Scholarship.

    
    Doug McClure was married, for a while, to Barbara Luna -- who had a 
    dual role in the episode of Star Trek in which Kirk and gang get
    transported to an ultra-violent parallel universe -- Spock with goatee
    ring any bells? Barbara Luna played Kirk's mistress in the parallel
    universe. 
    
    As for Fulbright -- some of us overdosed on him back in the '60's.
    
    

>    teenaged girl", her mother, and her crystal Daddy voice (Burt
>    Reynolds) lived in.  

Burt Reynolds???  R U sure???

/scott

    .192
    
    i'd guess that .190 isn't full bright.

    
    
    i didn't think it was reynolds voice that came out of that
    crystal...but in fact the voice of the guy that did occassionally show
    up as dad...
    
    

    re: Burt Reynolds
    
    That's what the book says, and I seem to recall that he was the
    voice during the first season when I watched it... alien Daddy
    must not have put in actual appearances until the second season,
    by which time I wasn't watching it anymore.  I think Reynolds
    was kind of doing it as a lark, during one of his several
    career lulls.  He may have left after the first season, but
    I don't know...
    
    If they did have Daddy make actual appearances, that's too bad,
    because I think it was very effective having these father-daughter
    talks through the crystal device as they did in the beginning.
    If he's really there, then what fun is that, other than the
    "Bewitched" kind of thing (here's my Dad, he's an alien/witch/whatever,
    and no one can find out).
    
    Chris

	Burt Reynolds died???

    
    
    chris....he (the daddy) very very rarely made appearances...at least on
    the episodes i saw.  now i wasn't an avid fan...it was just something
    to watch occassionally on a saturday when nothing else was on...kinda
    like that show "small wonder"...so he may have appeared more often, but
    i dought that, as well...but i am pretty sure he did show up
    occassionally....
    
    

	dead snarf

              <<< Note 40.195 by SMURF::BINDER "vitam gustare" >>>

>    .192
>    
>    i'd guess that .190 isn't full bright.

Pity the spelling impaired who venture into the 'box.

    i think the part of Billy The Kid was played by Clu Glullager (sp?)
    
    Chip

    Gulager
    

    Burt's career sure did...

    "James Herriot" has his OWN note.  Go 'WAY!!
                   

    
    Ed Flanders, who played Dr. Westphall on `St. Elsewhere'.
    
    Apparently, suicide.
    

 Bummer..I read about his death last night.  I liked him in St. Elsewhere (one
of my favorite shows of all time).




Jim

	He was the oldest guy to ever show his bare butt on national tv! I
nearly choked when he did it. I guess if it was suicide, then he didn't have to
"act" so much on that show. While I always liked him on there, he was always
depressed.


Glen

> He was the oldest guy to ever show his bare butt on national tv!

That's quite a claim to fame.  But I suppose it's not as good as discovering
a cure for cancer, because someone older can easily eclipse your moon.

<grin>

    SQF,26th June,1995
    

    Me----aaaaaarrrrrrrrgggghhhh
    				h
    				 h
    				  h
    				   h
    				    h.

1 Australia 1

'e fallin in the water




Chele

    
    Odette, former SOE agent captured by Gestapo and held in 
    Buchenwald, aged 82.
    
    worked in occupied France, running Resistance network.
    
    

    "Today" show viewers from years past might be interested in knowing
    that Frank Blair died last week.  He was the "Today" show's news man
    for over 20 years from the 50's through the early 70's.  I believe
    he was 79 years old, if I'm remembering the obituary correctly.
    
    Chris

    Oh, man, what a blast from the past.  Blair did the news back when Dave
    Garroway was the anchor.  The only anchor - they hadn't invented female
    talking heads yet.  I'd forgotten all about old Frank - hope he died
    peacefully.
    
    If memory serves me correctly, Blair also anchored the New York end of
    NBC's JFK assassination coverage together with David Brinkley.  I could
    swear I remember those black-framed glasses.

	Chris, you are correct. He was 79 years old. And speaking of old news
anchors, but who are still alive, John Palmer was at the anchor desk last week
while Matt Lauer was filling in for Bryant Gumble. I always liked him as a news
anchor. I like Matt better though... :-)

Re              <<< Note 40.217 by SMURF::BINDER "vitam gustare" >>>

>    If memory serves me correctly, Blair also anchored the New York end of
>    NBC's JFK assassination coverage together with David Brinkley.  I could
>    swear I remember those black-framed glasses.

  You must be thinking of Chet Huntley. Blair was anchor for the today show
which was in New York but the NBC evening news back then was the Huntley
Brinkley report in which Chet Huntley anchored from New York and David
Brinkley anchored from Washington.

  They were sponsored by Texico and they'd end each evening's report with:

  Brinkley: "Good night Chet"
  Huntley:  "Good night David, and good night from Texico."

  It was one of the more famous closings of TV history,
  George

>  Brinkley: "Good night Chet"
>  Huntley:  "Good night David, and good night from Texico."

I remember Huntley's line as "Good night David, and good night for NBC News."

  I wouldn't be surprised if they used both. I know I heard "Texico" but they
may have changed sponsors and decided to move away from the commercial label.

  George

 I don't think it was Huntley and Brinkley that were on the air for the
 Kennedy assasination initial coverage.  I think Brinkley was there, but
 Blair (was it him) was also there and was relaying information from the
 phone to the airwaves.



 Jim

    Why would they say "Texico" instead of "Texaco"?  Maybe they were
    idjuts?
    
    -- Jim

Because they're headquartered in Texis?

	No, cuz Mz Debra hadn't gotten around to correct them! :-)

RE      <<< Note 40.223 by TINCUP::AGUE "DTN-592-4939, 719-598-3498(SSL)" >>>

>    Why would they say "Texico" instead of "Texaco"?  Maybe they were
>    idjuts?
    
  So how do you know they didn't say "Texico" instead of "Texaco"?

  George

    .227
    
    > So how do you know they didn't say "Texico" instead of "Texaco"?
    
    They've got trademark lawyers who would make sure they said it right.

Peter Conklin died last night.  No further information is available at this
time.

He was another person from the same mold as Simon Szeto.

!@#$%^&U*IO^&*()_ IT!

He was my friend.  Made non-disclosure presentations on VAX instruction set
to my biggest customer in a three-day extravaganza at the mill back when I
lived in Charlotte.

Taught me the back way home from the airport one night when we returned from
two different places on the same flight.

/john

John,

I understand it was a sudden massive heart attack that got him.

Bob

    I have just found out out (this weekend) that Ronnie Cray died and 
    Reggie wants an investigation set up, because he thinks somethink
    is dodgy about it.
    
    Does anyone at home have any information

	Who is that dude?

    Was Glen, was.  Who was that dude.  NNtTM :-)

	Brian, I won't thank you, trust me. :-)

    I knew that..... Just Monday troubles for ya.

          <<< Note 40.229 by ROWLET::AINSLEY "Rest In Peace, Peter" >>>
               -< Peter Conklin - Corporate Consulting Engineer >-

> Peter Conklin died last night.  No further information is available at this

Jeez, really?!! I've know Peter since my VMS V1,2...days. 

> He was another person from the same mold as Simon Szeto.

And what the hell happened to Simon!!!!???? God, I've been out of touch...

TFSO I can handle, but this is too much.

 in case you haven't seen it, more info in 3761 of HUMANE::DIGITAL

And Simon's info is at #1941 in the same conference.

	I forget his first name, but Carol O'Connor's son died last night. He
committed suicide. He has had a drug problem for quite some time now, and
according to Carol, he said this was why he took his life. He looked pretty
broken up about it. 

	His son starred with him in the show, "In the Heat of the Night". 


Glen

 Hugh. 33.

Two men were charged with manslaughter in the heroin overdose death of
Tony Curtis's son Nicholas.  The heroin was labeled "Ready to Die."

    
    	Damn!  I always liked the character he played....thought
    	he was darned cute too.  man......
    
    

    
    
    Is he the big guy, the bald guy or the blonde guy on the show?
    
    
    
    Mike
    
    

	He's the blonde guy.

| <<< Note 40.243 by NOTIME::SACKS "Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085" >>>


| Two men were charged with manslaughter in the heroin overdose death of
| Tony Curtis's son Nicholas.  The heroin was labeled "Ready to Die."

	The one time something lives up to it's name it has to kill. That
blows.

    
    
    	He wasn't blond.  He had brown hair.  Played the
    	character Lonnie.
    

    
    and it's carroll, not carol...
    
    
    

	This morning on the Today show they kept referring to him as Carroll
O'Connor's son. I would think THEY would know his name. 

	But during the 8:00 am break they said the name Hugh, and they went in
to how Carroll stated that he would like the drug dealer who sold his son the
drugs to come see him. He even mentioned the guys name. He wasn't happy when he
said it. He went on to say it was the gun's trigger being pulled by his son
that ultimately killed him, but it was the drugs that led him there. 



Glen

The alleged dealer was arrested.

	i thought some of you might be interested in this if you haven't
    	already been notified...
    
    
((((( forwards removed))))
    
Subject: PETER CONKLIN REMEMBRANCE                                        

    
    	**************************************************************
	*     THIS MESSAGE IS FROM JEAN PROULX AND BOB SUPNIK        *
	**************************************************************

	---------PLEASE GIVE THIS MESSAGE BROAD DISTRIBUTION----------

	The sudden death of Peter Conklin has left many of us saddened
	and struggling with the loss of his presence on both a 
	professional and personal basis.  His contribution to Digital
	over the past twenty-five years has been immeasurable!

	His friends and colleagues would like to honor Peter, 
	celebrate his accomplishments and share some of the happy 
	and humorous times we spent with him by holding a gathering 
	in his memory.  You are cordially invited to join us on 
	Tuesday, April 11, at 4:30 p.m. in the LKG cafeteria.  We 
	would like this to be an opportunity for you to share your 
	special memories by writing them down for inclusion in a book 
	we will give his family and/or by being present yourself and 
	talking about the times with Peter that you remember. 

	If you would like to participate, please contact Kathy Stone 
	at DELNI::STONEK.  We need a count of participants, presentors 
	and contributors to the remembrance book, so please RSVP 
	on-line soon.


Subj:	Memorial Service - Peter F. Conklin

    A memorial service will be held at the Harvard Unitarian Church,
    Harvard Common, Harvard, MA on Sunday, April 2 at 4 p.m.  There 
    will be a gathering for friends at the Fellowship Hall (at the 
    Unitarian Church) immediately following the service.  Anyone who would

    like to volunteer to either bring or serve food please send a 
    message to Gwen Cook at CHIPBZ::COOK.

    The family requests that in lieu of flowers, contributions may be
    made in Peter's memory to the Peter F. Conklin Memorial Education
    Trust Fund, c/o Shawmut Bank, Acton, MA 01720 for the education of
    Cambodian-Americans. 

    If you would like to send a card to the family the address is:

    	Donna Conklin
    	42 Bolton Road
    	Harvard, MA  01451
    
    

    
    Ars longa, vita brevis.

	Ok, I know I'm gonna screw this name up, but a singer who was 23 was
killed by her fan club president on Friday. I think her name was serina or
something like that. She had won a Grammy.


Glen

Selena, if I'm not mistaken.

Was that Selena Quintanilla-Perez?

    Yes, shot through the heart. She was only 24.

    allegedly by her fan club president (after being accused of
    embezzelment (no less).
    
    Chip

    Not only that, the accused her of stealing money too!

    
    
    pardon moi, mais qui est 'selena'???  
    
    

    She won a grammy I think. She did Mexican "chachacha" kinda stuff.
    She was going to put out her fisrt English album this year.

    re: "chachacha"
    
    Oh sure, dredge up old memories of the eeuuuey 5th-grade dance
    class that my mother forced me into.
    
    At least I won a small clay doggie statue in some elimination
    dance round, and some prepubescent chemistry was stirred up
    ("Hmmmm, you know, maybe girls aren't so yucky after all...").
    
    Chris

    
    Anyone who can confuse Tejana with "chachacha"....
    
    								-mr. bill

    A good friend passed away over the weekend. Some of you may
    know him. His name was Mark Maxson, and he was as kind and
    gentle a soul as you'd ever want to meet.

    Mark worked for Digital in NYC (last I knew) as a consultant
    to the financial/banking sector.

    From 1986 to 1991 (or thereabouts) Mark worked for PCSG,
    first as a supervisor in the Software QA group under
    Terry Bass, and then as the supervisor of the server
    development team for Pathworks. I had the pleasure of
    working for Mark for most of this time.

    Mark was a large man and had a life filled with health
    problems. He took quite a bit of medication for a bad
    heart, but alas, his heart still got the best of him.
    The poor man had so many health problems that for a while
    we jokingly referred to him as "Major Medical".

    The images of Mark that I most remember are him walking
    the hallways of LJ02 (in Littleton MA), using a wooden
    dowel as a makeshift "walking stick". I also remember him
    sitting back in his chair and stroking his beard.
    philosophizing deeply on the subject of VAX/VMS programming.

    Mark will most certainly be missed. God bless you Mark
    Maxson, you were one of a kind!!!

    -b

That's a shame. Very sad to hear that, Brian. I met Mark many (11?) years
ago at a noters' party in the early days of notes. He was a past host of
many of the older conferences on the Net including trivia when it resided
on VAXWRK. An excellent human being. Very easy to get to know and a genuine
person by all measures. Sad to learn of his passing.

-Jack

 Sorry to hear that Brian..sounds like a good man and a good friend.




 Jim

    Carroll O'Connor also mentioned it was Hugh's 3rd wedding anniversary.
    In The Heat of The Night was filmed (except for year 1) south of
    Atlanta in Covington, Georgia.  Hugh went through detox once with
    Howard Rollins.  Rollins really got into some high profile diffi-
    culties and it was said Carroll O'Connor fought to keep Rollins on
    the show long after others wanted Rollins dropped.  Rollins continued
    to run afoul of the law (DUI several times, DUI and cocaine); he
    actually did some jail time, but O'Connor was always there with a
    supporting hand; now I understand why.
    
    There was never any mention of Hugh O'Connor getting in trouble after
    the stay at a local hospital; I thought he'd kicked it.....too bad.
    
    Saw an interview of O'Connor, said son had been fooling with drugs
    since he was 16 years old; another kid who thought he was invincible
    :-(
    
    The cast of HOFTN were quite popular around here.  Every year, Hugh,
    Alan Autry and the guy who played Parker would go around to various
    drop off locations urging people to leave food for the poor.
    

Kenny Everett died last night.

>          <<< Note 40.268 by GIDDAY::BURT "Let us reason together" >>>

> Kenny Everett died last night.
        
        What of,  Chele?   He's the only guy I know of who's been fired
        (and rehired) by  Auntie  Beeb, not once, not twice, but thrice
        for being outrageous.
        
        Long live Cupid Stunt. "All in the best possible taste!"
        
        Bye Kenny.
        
        &y
        

AIDs related death - zip details on the radio this a.m..  (ie where - I know 
he moved to Spain a few years back, but I don't know if he returned to the UK 
after his partner dies)
His parents live in Australia.

He was a funny man.  I loved the beautiful Marcel.



Chele

	Can anyone add more to who he is, what he has done?????

        I don't think you would know him, Glen - he's been around in UK
        for years on  radio  and  television  "pushing the envelope" in
        terms of comedy and  I  don't  think he ever made it to the US.
        The  BBC  fired him on  a  number  of  occasions  (three  as  i
        remember) and promptly rehired him -  he  did so many different
        characters  it's tough to pick any one  out,  but  my  all-time
        favourite was "Cupid Stunt" - a caricature movie starlet giving
        interviews  - lots of over_the_top innuendos, and always closed
        by a wide open legs cross-over accompanied by his immortal "...
        and all in the best _possible_ taste"! You'd have to see it!
        
        Probably UK's funniest gay (but not in_yer_face_gay) comedian
        
        Andy

    
    
       record producer for the Doors & Janis Joplin, Paul Rothchild 59
    died over the weekend from lung cancer.

    
    Kenny Everett 8^(!  I have an album he compiled named something like
    "The World's Worst Records" and believe it, every song on it qualifies
    100 times over 8^p.  The vinyl itself is a pukey shade of green 8^).
    
    He was a DJ on Capitol Radio for a while, methinks.

	Andy, thanks for the info. 

    Glen, there is a small obit in todays Bost Globe.
    
    Peter

    
    It took me a while before I felt up to posting this.  Some of you might
    know Sally, or her husband David Larrick.
    
    
            <<< DCL::STA0:[NOTES$LIBRARY]SUDBURY_SAVOYARDS.NOTE;1 >>>
          -< Community theater Gilbert and Sullivan on a grand scale >-
================================================================================
Note 42.5               History-in-the-making:  95Mikado                  5 of 5
WRKSYS::SEILER "Larry Seiler"                        20 lines  31-MAR-1995 17:28
                               -< Sally Osborn >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    David Larrick called to let me know that Sally passed away last night.
    She had been doing poorly for several days.  Both David and her daughter
    were with her.

    The memorial service will be held Saturday, April 8th at 4:00pm at the
    Sudbury United Methodist Church.  A reception will follow, and Sally
    has left instructions that we are all to have a good time!  
    
    Donations in lieu of flowers are welcomed for the following organization:

		Massachusetts Breast Cancer Coalition
		10 Post Office Square
		Boston, MA 02109
    
    I am very happy that we had Sally as stage co-director this year,
    and that we were able to dedicate the show in appreciation of 
    her many contributions to the Sudbury Savoyards.  I hadn't realized
    just how much Sally had contributed to making us what we are today.
    
    	Larry Seiler

    
    
    :{  I'm sorry for you and for her family Mz. Deb. 
    
    **HUGS** to you!
    
    Terrie
    

    She was no doubt a beautiful person.

    Why do bad things happen to good people?

    8-{

    
    I'm really sorry to hear that Deb. She was obviously a gifted and
    well-loved person. :-(
    
    -b

    
    Morarji Desai, fmr PM of India, age 99 or so.
    
    I was almost tempted to propose a toast to his memory
    in the lab where I'm working these days..
    

Was he the one who drank his urine?

 (scene of me spitting coffee out).





 Jim

	Berle Ives is near death. They don't expect him to live too much
longer.

    
    Yeah, he's in a coma from which he's not expected to awaken - he has
    mouth cancer.  I heard it on the news this morning.
    
    And I just thought of him yesterday for the first time in ages 8^(.

	Deb, please don't think of me anymore. I wanna live. :-)

Did he get mouth cancer from eating cracked corn?

 .287



 I don't care..

    He probably didn't swallow his alcoholic beverages.

    How old is he?

    Burl Ives.  I recall an album of songs for children.  Very sweet voice.

    
    
    he also has some christmas songs, too...'silver and gold' and 'have a
    holly jolly christmas' come to mind...one of my g-parents favs...plus
    he did voice and perhaps some songs for some of the older christmas
    specials, like rudolph, or something along that line...
    
    

    I saw a commercial just last week selling a collection of his songs.
    
    Timely you think? 
    
    ...Tom

      I always liked Burl Ives.  He was the snowman in Rudolph that
      narrated the story.  He was also the rich guy in 'Cat On A
      Hot Tin Roof' - father of Paul Newman in the role.
    
      Always liked him and sad to see him go.

Burl Ives is, or at least at one time was, an inveterate pipe smoker.

    Do you need to buy inveterate tobacco for those pipes?

    i thought he was a mammal...

 Its a dead

 Snarf in the middle of the road

    Stinkin to hiiiiiiigh heaven! 
    

    
    
    So, is it official, or is he still in a coma?
    
    
    Terrie
    

    
    
    Burl Ives died this morning at age 85.

    
    
    i was playing hangman on my system yesterday at lunch...he was one of
    the puzzles...
    
    

    AP 17 Apr 95 18:33 EDT V0821
 
    Copyright 1995 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
 
    PAPEETE, French Polynesia (AP) -- Cheyenne Brando, the daughter of
    actor Marlon Brando, committed suicide at her home in Tahiti after five
    years of depression, family associates said Monday. 

    Ms. Brando, 25, had been distraught since the killing of her boyfriend,
    Dag Drollet, in 1990 by her half-brother, Christian Brando, and had
    tried to kill herself at least twice previously, according to her
    doctors. 

    Family associates, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said she hanged
    herself Sunday at her mother's home in Punaauia, 6 miles west of
    Papeete, the French Polynesian capital on the island of Tahiti. 

    Ms. Brando's body was moved to her aunt's home in the town of Faaa,
    where she was to be buried on Monday or Tuesday, sources close to the
    family said on condition of anonymity. 

    Ms. Brando, who had a 5-year-old son by Drollet, was the daughter of
    Marlon Brando and Tarita Teriipaia, a Polynesian who acted with Brando
    in the 1962 film "Mutiny on the Bounty." 

    Marlon Brando's agent, Ed Limato, said the actor wouldn't comment.
    Limato denied reports that Brando was hospitalized, and declined to say
    where he was.  Cheyenne Brando was charged in July 1990 with complicity
    in the killing of Drollet, who was shot dead in May 1990 at the Los
    Angeles home of her father. 

    Christian Brando is serving a 10-year prison sentence after pleading
    guilty in a Los Angeles court to voluntary manslaughter. But
    authorities in Polynesia, a French territory, refused to force Cheyenne
    Brando to appear at the trial. 

    After trying to kill herself in November 1990 with a large dose of
    anti-depressant drugs, she underwent treatment at a Papeete hospital
    and later at a clinic near Paris. 

    I feel bad for Marlon. Talk about tough times with his kids...

    
    such is like among the rich and famous. better to be poor and anonymous
    i think.

    .307
    
    yeah i think i share that viewpoint
    
    maybe that's what "rich man, kingdom of heaven" means
    
    ooops darn there we go getting religious again ....
    
    ric

    In a network news clip on the Brando suicide, there was a shot of
    Christian coming out of court with his lawyer - none other than
    Bob Shapiro.
    
    When the daughter was in treatment in Paris, she ran away from the
    hospital.  I wonder if the girl might have done better emotionally
    if she had been allowed to testify at her brother's trial rather
    than being shielded from it?  Brando was frantic to keep his son's
    punishment to a minimum; it almost seems as if the girl's emotional
    stability was sacrificed to save her brother prison time (IMO).
    
    

    
    I allwasy thought she did it, and her brother took the blame to protect
    her.

    
    	Howard Cosell......tell it like it is.....

	He was 77, and died from a heart aneurysm..... (sp? DEB???)

    I'll never forget the time he did Monday Night Baseball at Fenway...Sox
    vs. Yankees in 77.  Butch Hobson fouled and it went up the net and hit
    Cosell on the chest!  
    
    

	Anyone remember Cosell as Ed Grimley's Uncle??? Saying the line, "I
must say" in the classic Cosell tone was unbelievably funny!

    
    Aneurysm was correct, Glen.  Howard Cosell really died?! 8^(

    
    
    
    	"He came to play... with no dimunution of his mental
    	concepts or moral precepts"
    
    
    			He'll be missed.
    
    
    
    			DAC
    
    

	Anyone remember the comment that got him booted from Monday Night
Football?

 "Look at that monkey run"




 

    
    "He is going to go all the way, nobody's going to catch him"
    
    Dandy Don  "Well howard, here comes nobody"
    
    Monday Night Football forget the year, a classic comeback by meredith.

	Jim, that was actually one of 2. I had forgotten that one. The one I
was thinking about was the reference he made about Art Monk when he said his
arms were long enough to drag on the ground. But now that I think about it,
that comment did come AFTER the other one. 


Glen

    
    
    Ginger Rogers
    
    
    and 
    
    
    Art Flemming

 Hmmm...Ginger Rogers, I'm aware of, but who's Art Flemming?  Sportscaster?



Jim

  Jeopardy

Fleming.

It could have been worse.

It might have been Phlegming.

    
    	That' snot funny!!
    

 Are you trying to pick a fight?

    
    
    what a bunch of goobers....

>It might have been Phlegming.

a friend of mine is known as Phlegm, a sort of abbreviation of `Emma'.  For
once, I wasn't responsible (for the nickname, that is)

Chris.

    
    ... Phlegm Thompson just doesn't have that Oscar winning ring
        to it, does it?
        

    
    	"And the lovely Peggy Phlegming lands another double axle!!"
    

One of the characters in Grand Hotel is Miss Phlegm.  Well, it's spelled
a little differently.  Played by Joan Crawford.

    
    
    still dont know who this are fleming dude is...what does he have to do
    with jeopardy???
    
    
    

    
    
    He was the original jeopardy host.
    
    
    

    Art Fleming was the original host of the original incarnation
    of "Jeopardy", which started around 1962 (?) and ran until the
    early 1970's or so.  It had a brief revival, again with Fleming,
    around 1977, and then disappeared until the Trivial Pursuit rage
    in the early 1980's stimulated Merv Griffin into coming up with
    a new, "high-tech" version of "Jeopardy" with its new host Alex
    Trebek, around 1982.
    
    Some oldies like me actually prefer the old "Jeopardy", even though
    laughably trivial amounts of money were involved, because it had
    slightly different rules that made the game more interesting IMHO.
    Beyond that, Art Fleming was a real character, who was more fun to
    watch than Trebek.
    
    Chris

Before that Trebek imposter took over.

    Whoops, another notes collision...
    
    Chris

 
 topic...dead game showhosts for $200...


  Answer "Art Fleming"



  

    
    
    BZZZT, sorry, but you forgot to phrase your response in the form of a
    question.

One of my fellow vanpoolers appeared on Jeopardy with Art Fleming.  Won the
first day, blew his wad on Final Jeopardy on the second.

My parents recently had one of their Satelite subscription stations
scrubbed as the station switched from independent to network affiliate,
so I had to choose some new services for them to replace the old station.
One of the new ones they now get is something called "The Game Show
Network". They play nothing but reruns of all the old game shows.

I wonder if they're doing an Art Flemming Memorial week?

    >>>...blew his wad on Final Jeopardy on the second.
    
    
    um, gerald...you might want to rephrase that...
    
    :> :>
    
    

 Yow..the game show network??  Do they have Password with Alan Ludden?

Unsure, Jim, but I expect to be getting a full briefing before long.

    Oh, man... an old game-show network would be one of the few things
    to haul my sorry carcass back in front of the tube, so I hope we
    don't get that on our cable system!
    
    I've always loved the old game shows, up until the early 1970's.
    My earliest memories are not of my parents, but are instead of
    a small black-and-white TV screen showing a large clock with only
    a second hand, with a circle of little lights going around it, one
    for each second, and the second hand turning backwards, and the
    little lights turning off in order as each second passed with an
    accompanying loud "tock" sound.
    
    No wonder I won't wear a watch now...
    
    Chris

    Ginger Rodgers died too, right??

    
    RE: Raq
    
    >still dont know who this are fleming dude is...what does he have to do
    >with jeopardy???
    
    
    	And did you know that Paul McCartney was in another band before
    	Wings?
    

    Re:  Ginger Rogers
    
    Yes, dead of natural causes at age 83.
    
    

    
    
    yes, shawn, i did, thankyouverymuch...
    
    
    

    
    is franco still dead?

    >>   Bud Collyer, Beat the Clock (w/Bess Myerson).
    
    Right... but I thought it was Roxanne instead of Bess Myerson
    (who I remember from "I've Got a Secret").  Whatever, "Beat the
    Clock" was on for so long that there may have been more than one
    lady on there over the years.
    
    re: Trebek
    
    I have a book about game shows where they refer to young Trebek
    in his "High Rollers" days as a "brooding young stud".  Is that
    why daytime TV was so popular with the ladies back then?
    
    On the other hand, I'll admit to having watched "Let's Make a Deal"
    just to see Carol Merrill...
    
    Chris

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| is franco still dead?

	This belongs in the SNL note

    
    	I used to love "High Rollers"!!  Alek isn't my type [being male
    	and all] so I can't say anything about his studliness.
    
    	Who was that guy from "Treasure Hunt"?  Jeff/Geoff something?
    

	I thought Art was a tad obnoxious on Jeopardy.  When someone got
	a question wrong, he would often say, "Ooooh, nooo, nooo, [you dolt]"
	and then give the correct question.  I like Alex better.
 

    Alex is a Canadian.

| <<< Note 40.354 by BUSY::SLABOUNTY "Trouble with a capital 'T'" >>>


| I used to love "High Rollers"!!  Alek isn't my type [being male and all] so I 
| can't say anything about his studliness.

| Who was that guy from "Treasure Hunt"?  Jeff/Geoff something?

	Why, did you find HIM studly shawn???? :-)

    
    	Ummm, no ... he's also not my type.  Coincidentally, he's also a
    	male.
    

    His name is/was Geoff Edwards ( kind of goofy) he was not the first 
    that was Jan Murray in the late fifities or earky sixtys.  They are not
    my type either.
    
    Dennis

    Peter Wright - retired British Spy
    
    Pheumonia (sp?) - in Exile in Tasmania - age 76 I think ????

Anybody know what the conditions of his exile were?

    
    
    
    Heard that the guy who pulled Baby Jessica out of the well killed
    himself the other day.  He was 37.  I cannot remember his name. 
    
    
    Mike

    El Delbalso,
    
    It was self-declared exile, due to the turmoil that was caused when
    his book Spycatcher was banned in England over allegations that there
    are/were traitors within the British Security services. In particular
    he claimed that the head of MI5, Sir Roger Hollis, was a traitor.

    
    did Sir Rodger ever deny it

    Yup.

    For you Mister Rogers fans, the actor who played Chef Brockett
    has died at age 65 (I think his name was Don Brockett).  He had
    also appeared in over 30 movies in his career; I remember watching
    a movie once and being surprised to see "Chef Brockett" enter the
    scene.  I'd always figured he was just a "Mister Rogers" guy.
    
    Chris

He also played a psycho in "Silence of the Lambs."  That's range.

| He also played a psycho in "Silence of the Lambs."  That's range.

	Imagine how much better Mr. Rogers would have been if he confused the 2
roles? :-)

Harry Bookhalter, a tobacco and candy broker.  He helped endow a professorship
in "Social Responsibility in Business" at the Wharton School in honor of a
friend, Joseph Kolody (known as Mr. Tobacco).  He also received the Advocate
Carnation for community service and service to the tobacco industry.

Maurice Goldsmith, pharmacist, radio personality and songwriter.  Among his
songs: "Be My Vitamin Baby" and "I've Got a Hunch, Honeybunch."

hmmmmm Snickers..... droooolllll.......

    
    Elizabeth Montgomery, star of the 60's comedy has died of cancer. She
    was 57. It was announced on the radio her in L.A today. 
    
    Real sad, used to watch that show all the time when I was a kid.
    
    Dave
    
    
    
    

    
    yeah, she was a major babe.

	I just watched a movie last week with her in it. I wonder if that was
the last movie she made? 

	I heard that she had breast cancer, but that she just found out.
Wow.... this is sad.....


Glen

    
      The news stated it had been a long battle with a cancerous tumor.
      
      Didn't the two actors that played Darrin also die in the last 
      5 years?
    
      I just watched some old reruns of Bewitched the other night on
      cable. Still made me laugh.
    
    Dave
    

    Yes, both Darrin's have also died.
    
    Too bad about Elizabeth Montgomery; I'd heard she didn't have
    much time left, but was going to fight it out to the end.  This
    will probably upset the kids; they love that show and watch it
    every night on Nick.
    
    There aren't too many major 60's TV shows with their entire cast
    still alive, or even the majority of the cast.  "Star Trek" may
    be the one of the only ones, actually.  "The Dick Van Dyke Show"
    comes pretty close; I believe Jerry Paris and Richard Deacon have
    died, but the others are still around.
    
    Chris

Hmmm.  All the stars of a TV show that glamorized witches are dead.
Any thumpers want to comment?

 re .379



 Yes, they are dead.




 Jim

  .380  jim, he said "thumpers".

 Am I not a "thumper"?

    No.

 Why not?

    See 425.105.  A thumper could not have written that note.

    I thought it was pancreatic cancer or a tumor in the lower GI area.
    
    Yes, that was Elizabeth in the TV movie last week; I'd read that
    she'd hoped to make a series of these movies (the character she
    portrayed was based on a real person).
    
    I always thought one of her best roles was when she played Lizzie
    Borden.
    
    

    
    EM was a very attractive and seemingly nice lady, and Lizzie
    Bordon was a decent movie, but Bewitched sucked. Let's not
    get carried away here and award any posthumous oscars...
    
    -b

    
    -1 Bewitched was typical of most shows in the 60's. It sucked no
       more or less than what was shown back then. Amazing when you
       consider that the USA was falling apart outside the world of
       television, and look at the 60's shows.
    
       Besides, it was just a kid show for watching with parents.No
    more, no less. 
    
       Dave
    
    
    
    
    

ALEXANDER GODUNOV DIES AT 45: Alexander Godunov, the actor and acclaimed
former Bolshoi Ballet dancer, died today in his West Hollywood home. Police
say the death will be listed as being from natural causes. Godunov spent 13
years with the Bolshoi before his 1979 defection to the U.S. He starred
opposite Harrison Ford in "Witness," and became an American citizen in
1987.

What part did he portray? One of the Amish men or one of the agents?

    
    He was the Amish man that was interested in dating Kelly McGillis.  The
    one who got the icecream in the mush.

	Brian... I LOVED Bewitched! I think the campiness of it all was what I
liked best. Aunt Clara (who died on the set) was always my favorite. The
doorknob lady!

    How did she die on the set Glen...heart attack???

    She had a very bad spell.

    Complications from cancer I think. I was in love with Liz when I was 11
    years old.
    
    ...Tom

    >ALEXANDER GODUNOV DIES AT 45
    
    I remember him in "The Money Pit" as well.
    
    ...Tom

    
    Wasn't he one of the main bad guys in "Diehard"?
    

So what did Godunov die of?  They're obviously trying to keep it secret.
The obit I read said he "had been seeing a physician who will list the
death as due to natural causes."

    Natural causes at 45? Sounds like an AIDS cover-up.

    
    
    	Ok, so these things usually come in threes.  I wonder who
    	the next star to die will be....
    

	Glenn, that was too funny!! (died of a bad spell)

	Jack, I don't remember what she died of (I think she had a stroke) for
sure, but I have a friend, who has moved away, who was a Bewitched lover! He
could tell you who played the 2 Mrs. Larry Tates, which episodes featured which
twin who played Tabatha, etc. 



Glen

    
    
    Alan's aunt passed away during surgery early this morning. :(
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

    Please give Alan our condolences!
    
    -Jack

    re: Bewitched
    
    During its best early years, it pretty much sat in the middle of a
    sitcom spectrum defined at the high end by "The Dick Van Dyke Show"
    and at the low end by "The Beverly Hillbillies" (IMHO).  Actually,
    there were worse, but they were the long-forgotten one-season wonders.
    
    Given that, it was okay, and holds up to some extent today.  It did,
    however, greatly overstay its welcome, and should've folded when
    Dick York left for health reasons.  I'd give the Dick York shows
    a "7", and the Dick Sargent shows a "3" (the rest of the cast and
    crew was getting worn out by then as well).
    
    
    re: Who's next?  (In threes...)
    
    Every time this question is asked, I always answer "George Burns".
    It sounds like a safe bet, and yet obviously I've been wrong every
    time so far!  :-)
    
    Chris

    I wouldn't assume Godunov died from Aids.  If I remember correctly
    he lived with/married actress Jacqueline Bissett.  I believe they
    had a child together.
    

Aren't you stereotyping people with AIDS as homosexuals?

BTW, the obit I saw mentioned only one wife -- the Russian dancer with whom
he defected, who subsequently undefected.  No mention of Bissett or kids.

    >actress Jacqueline Bissett.  I believe they
    
    fwoar woof woof ....
    
    ric

    
    Terrie, I'm so sorry.

    
    
    bothnews reports i heard this morning said elizabeth montgomery was 62,
    not 57...either way, she looked good for her age...can't remember which
    cancer they said it was, tho...
    
    
    
    hugs terrie...
    
    

 Sorry to hear that Terrie :-(





Jim

 ZZ   Aren't you stereotyping people with AIDS as homosexuals?
    
    If I may answer this...
    
    I questioned it when I saw the report last night and the ONLY reason I
    did was because CNN stated he died of natural causes.  When somebody
    dies at his age of natural causes, then "Natural Causes" is a term used
    to respect the privacy of the individual who passed away from AIDS...
    which in my mind is honorable.  However, I personally was open to the
    possibility he wasn't gay...but I questioned it.  
    
    -Jack  

 re .413



 Murder is an unnatural cause, suicide is an unnatural cause.  Everything else
 is a natural cause, it seems to me.  The brother of a man in my church
 dropped dead of a heart attack at the age of 36.  The newspaper attributed
 the death to "natural causes".




Jim

Getting run over by a car is natural causes?

    Mr. Topaz:
    
    Did your mother have any sons?

    
    	RE: Raq
    
    	The news report I heard last night [NBC TV?] said she was 57,
    	and WAAF said 62.
    
    	I believe NBC.
    

>Getting run over by a car is natural causes?


 Well, no.  I did mean to add a qualifier, but obviously neglected to do so.




Jim

Apparently Elizabeth Montgomery's relatives say she was 57, while reference
books and news clippings say she was 62.

  witch is it?

I think there's some wiggle room there.

 yeah, who nose?

    Interesting (at least for a Friday afternoon)... "Bewitched"
    premiered 32 years ago.  If she was 62 when she died, then she
    would've been 30 during the early episodes of the series; if she
    was 57 when she died, she would've been 25 back then.
    
    Tough to figure, she seemed to be the type that looks the same
    over a long period of years anyway.  She did do some TV prior to
    "Bewitched", most memorably a "Twilight Zone" episode with an
    end-of-the-world scenario (I think she was one of two survivors;
    the other was a man, conveniently and fortunately).
    
    Chris

Darrin it, I'm bothered and bewildered by the mystery of Elizabeth Montgomery's
age.

    Be thankful it wasn't 66...
    
    Chris

    Well, speaking for myself I just endora'd the show.
    
    No???  Oh well, I tried!

 maybe it'll be Clara-fied one of these days.

    >> Well, speaking for myself I just endora'd the show.
    >> No???  Oh well, I tried!
    
    If you meant "adored", no.  :-)
    If you meant "endured", yes!
    
    Chris

    Well, darrenit, I hate to hear about her death.  She was okay in my
    book.

| <<< Note 40.421 by PENUTS::DDESMAISONS "person B" >>>


| witch is it?

	TOOOOOOOO FUNNY!!!!

    I meant adored...
    
    No!

    re 424 Twilite zone
    
    The guy was Charles Bronson.
    Her only line in the episode was one word.
    
    Dave
    

 Her only line was one word.."Dave"...why'd she say that?

    According to the World Almanac, she was born 4/15/33 in Hollywood Cal.
    
    joan

    Zigged when I should have zagged

Les Aspin is dead.  He was the former Secretary of Defense for Clinton.

ME

    ZZ    The guy was Charles Bronson.
    ZZ    Her only line in the episode was one word.
    
    It was on the Sci Fi channel last night.
    
    -Jack

 I'm not dead yet..

	Tell me about it!!! I read that first line, Jimbo Henderson, and
thought, oh no.....  glad to see yer alive and well Jim.....

    Did Aspin committ suicide too or was it natural causes?

 The old boy had a stroke..

Elisha Cook Jr. at 91.  He was best known for the role of Wilmer, Sydney
Greenstreet's toady in The Maltese Falcon.

Ingmar Bergman's wife Ingrid, 65.  No relation to the actress of the same name.

    
    	Topaz, if his condition changes ... please let me know immediately!!
    

    
    	Alright, if HER condition changes.
    
    	Geez, it's only Monday ... gimme a break!!  8^)
    

>> Elisha Cook Jr. at 91.  He was best known for the role of Wilmer, Sydney
>> Greenstreet's toady in The Maltese Falcon.
    
    Also known to original-Trek series fans as Cogley (Samuel T.?),
    the old-fashioned lawyer who defended Kirk at his court martial
    for his alleged premature jettison of a pod containing a crew
    member (Finney).
    
    Chris

    
    By Samuel T. Cogley's arguments, OJ would have to walk.
    
    
    

    I SUBMIT TO YOU GENTLEMAN...THAT NICHOLE BROWN SIMPSON IS NOT DEAD!!

Gentlemen.  Nicole.  NNTTM.

    uuuuhhh....sorry

    
    
    SOrry to hear of your family's loss, Terrie.  
    
    
    Mike

    
    the former Labour PM  Harold Wilson.  
    
    last Labour PM to have won a general election.

Fritz Freleng dead at age 89 in Loss Angle-eeze.

 th th th thats all folks!

    
    Margaret Chase Smith, aged 97, former US Reprentative and Senator
    (R) from Maine. Was the first to speak out against Sen McCarthy
    in June 1950.
    
    

It's Friz, not Fritz.

	Fritz is a bar in Boston!

    RTw  05/30 1128  British Concorde designer Archibald Russell dies

    LONDON, May 30 (Reuter) - Sir Archibald Russell, designer of the
    Concorde supersonic airliner, has died a day before his 91st birthday,
    his family said on Tuesday.

    Russell, who had been ill with cancer, died in his sleep on Monday at
    his home in Cornwall, western England.

    A pioneer in aviation engineering, Russell in the 1960s led a team of
    engineers that produced the supersonic passenger airliner.

    More than a quarter century after its 1969 maiden flight, Concorde is
    still the fastest -- and one of the most expensive -- ways to travel.
    It can fly at up to 1,350 mph (2,160 kph) and climb to 60,000 feet
    (20,000 metres).

    Many see Concorde as the most elegant plane ever built, with its long,
    pointed nose and streamline features. An Anglo-French project, Concorde
    was built on the British side by Bristol Aircraft Ltd, of which Russell
    was deputy chairman.

    Its creators realised early on that in order for a supersonic plane to
    carry anything and do much more than fly it would have to be huge.

    "The loads were enormous and it had to be a very light structure, and
    Russell was the foremost structural man in world aviation," his
    colleague Barrie Bailey-Watson told Reuters. "His great contribution
    was that he made aircraft lighter without sacrifice of safety."

    Getting Concorde off the ground was a monumental task. The project's
    cost far exceeded resources in Britain, so the French airline industry
    was called in and it became a 50-50 project.

    Russell was awarded a knighthood in 1972. He is survived by his second
    wife, Judith, and two children.

    REUTER

	b. 21 Nov 1973, Engineer's Book Store, Atlanta.
	d.  2 Jun 1995, at home after repeated resuscitation attempts.

My faithful HP-45, used daily for over twenty years.

You will be missed.

Boohoo, boohoo.

/john

    Truely a sad day.

    John, I have an HP48GX that's the most awesome little machine in the
    palmtop space.
    
    Mike

Mike, it's considered the height of rudeness to brag about one's own
family when another has just lost a loved one.

    
    	My Sharp EL-506H is going on 12 years this fall.
    

    My HP-42S is 8, and the blackjack game I wrote for it is still in RAM.

Such blatant lack of compassion. I'm appalled. Yes I am.

    Well Jack I for one and truly sorry and know what it feels to lose one
    of your electronic friends.  It appears my Discman has suffered from
    one too many encounters with the parking lot.  I will salvage the
    batteries before putting to rest later today.  RIP
    

 .471  I'd ask for a moment of silence, but it sounds like you'll have
       plenty of those.

    .464

    Sorry to hear of your loss.  I gave my 15 year old HP 41C a hug.

    Bill

Was Zamfir saved, Brian?

    Could not get the lid open so Zamfir will suffer any untimely demise as
    well.  Not to worry though, QVC is having a half hourt special on the
    Compleat Zamfir.  A 12 CD collection of him doing show tunes, themes
    from hit TV shows and the most popular commercial jingles of the 50's,
    60's and 70's.  I am giddy with anticipation.

    
    	RE: Brian
    
    >60's and 70's.  I am giddy with anticipation.
    
    	I believe Sir Thomas Newton has something that can cure that.
    
    	8^)
    

    :-)

    It may be rude, but the best thing for John right now would be to go
    buy a replacement.  Works for pets too!

    John has installed a surrogate on his office Macintosh, but that won't
    help him on the long ride home.

    No it won't.  I wouldn't trade my HP48GX for anything made by a fruit
    comany.

    
    >John has installed a surrogate on his office Macintosh, but that won't
    >help him on the long ride home.
    
    
    	Knowing John, I'm sure he has a way to dial in from the car to
    	do on-the-fly calculations.
    

    
    all this talk about death troubles me, grieviously so, in fact.

    >all this talk about death troubles me, grieviously so, in fact.
    
    Me too, so I think I just won't die then!
    
    ...Tom

    I know it happened a few weeks ago, but I did catch a small item
    in a magazine that said Alexander Goudenov died of alcoholism (not
    AIDS).  Apparently it had become his custom to put away at least 2
    bottles of booze per day.  After trying for 10 years to get him into
    rehab, actress Jacqueline Bissett threw him out of her house about
    2 years ago; his decline since was swift.
    
    

    
    	What a bitch, eh?
    
    	She killed him!!
    

    
    JB used to be quite the babe in the 80's, haven't seen her in a few
    years.

    
    The guy that produced "The Day the Earth Stood Still" died a couple
    of days ago. Can't recall his name.
    
    Real classic si-fi film.
    
    

    Wasn't his name something like Nick Toh?
    
    Chris

    
    the words to Gort were
    
    klaatu barada nikto.
    
    

    Gort, come!
    
    Translation:  Gort...Maringa

    
    
    	Dr. Jonas Salk, inventor of the Polio vaccine in 1955, died
    yesterday at the age of 80.
    
    

    Rumor has it that he had a grant from the government to find a cure for
    AIDS.
    
    ...Tom

He had been working on it for several years. I don't know the grant status.

    I just happened to have read the article today.  In 1986 he began
    working on the aids virus vaccination.  He approached the research by
    working on building up the immunity system versus antibiotics.  He was
    ridiculed by his peers.  Now that is the standard by which most
    scientists are approaching the vaccine research.
    
    He was hated by his peers, loved by the human race.  Yes the
    government had granted permission for his vaccine to be used on willing
    patients and that will still happen under the direction of a scientist
    who worked with Salk.
    
    Nancy

    
    
    Former Chief Justice, Warren Burger dies at age 87.

    Re Jonas Salk, any other boxers who were Polio Pioneers?
    
    In the '50s, the first open trials of the Salk vaccine were on
    elementary school children.  'Twas the standard blind trial - half of
    the kids, whose parents volunteered them, got the real vaccine, half
    got pink saline.  They took blood samples after the injections, and
    they gave each kid a bright shiny penny and one of those little
    fold-over clip-on collar buttons saying "I'm a Polio Pioneer."  Most of
    us thought this was a real cool thing.
    
    We didn't find out until late the next summer who'd gotten the real
    stuff.  I was in the half that did.

    
    i wuz born in '52, but remember getting sabin's formulation
    on the suga cube. 

    Yeah, I got the Sabin stuff later, along about '62 it was.  Advantage
    of the Sabin stuff was that it required no boosters.

>    Re Jonas Salk, any other boxers who were Polio Pioneers?

Yup. Unfortunately, I wore the little tin collar button and broke the
tab thingee off it from stressing it, so a hadta throw it away. Betcha
it would be worth something today.

I'm a little younger, but I remember lining up for the shot and then for the
sugar cube.

 .500  same here.  except, of course, that i'm much, much, much younger.

You had the sugar cube in utero?

 I remember the sugar cube, but not the shot.  We went to the local high
school for the sugar cube.

I understand that they later replaced the sugar cube with a blue star tattoo.

 Nah, that's an urban myth

    Got the tatoo, still have scar on the arm.  My Mom had polio, she felt
    as though Salk was a hero.

    .506
    
    > Got the tatoo, still have scar on the arm.
    
    Eh?  The Salk vaccine was injected with a single-needle syringe and
    left no scar.  Could you hve confused it with a smallpox vaccination,
    perchance?

She licked the blue star tattoo and put her arm through a window when she
had a bad trip.

 Far out!

    
    
    like, what sugar cube and what blue tatoo????
    
    

    
    
     I guess it was BR....
    

    
    Lana Turner @ 75.

    
    This weekend:
    
    Wolfman Jack @ 57 (?)
    Eva Gabor @ 74 

    Pancho Gonzales, famous tennis pro, at 67.

Did anybody notice Wolfman Jack's widow's name?  It was <Mumble> Lamb <Mumble>.

    
    Clap for The Wolfman
    He gonna rate your record high
    

>>     Pancho Gonzales, famous tennis pro, at 67.
	
Pancho used to be Andre Agassi's brother-in-law and coach.
Apparently they remained very close after the divorce. It
may prove inspiring in Andre's bid to win Wimbleton this
week.

    Along with all of the other recent celebrity deaths, a few days
    ago actor Gale Gordon died at age 89 (I may be forgetting the
    age).  He was in many television comedies over the years (as
    well as radio comedies in earlier days), but was probably best
    known as "Mr. Mooney" from "The Lucy Show".  He was also "Uncle
    Harry" in "Here's Lucy", and played another Lucy relative in
    her short-lived "Life with Lucy" series from the 1980's.
    
    He was actually Lucy's first choice to play Fred Mertz in "I Love
    Lucy" (as was Bea Benaderet for the Ethel Mertz role), but he had
    other series commitments, so the role of course went to William
    Frawley.  But Gordon did make several guest appearances in the
    "I Love Lucy" series, usually as Ricky's club owner or some other
    stuffed-shirt kind of character.
    
    And for TV oldsters, Gale Gordon was the school principal in the
    "Our Miss Brooks" series.  He also played Mr. Wilson in "Dennis
    the Menace" for a couple of years after Joseph Kearns, the actor
    originally in that role, died halfway through the series' run.
    
    Gale Gordon appeared in some other series over the years, mostly
    during the 1950's and 1960's, and he was in several comedy movies
    as well.
    
    In general, he was a pretty busy guy.  In my opinion, he was the only
    reason to even consider watching the numerous post-"I Love Lucy" Lucy
    sitcoms.  He must have been a good actor to play off of, since Lucy 
    seemed so intent on having him in all of her series.
    
    In my younger days, I used to do an impression of him getting it
    on with Lucy ("Ohhhhhh, Mrs. CARRRRRRRmichael!!"), that I once made
    the mistake of doing in a long hallway in ZKO that was full of
    lunchtime traffic.  That was fun... :-)
    
    Chris

    Oh drat, Gale Gordon was one of my all-time favs :-(  He had the
    "pompous pain-in-the-butt" personna down to a science.
    
    

Some 'boxers have it down pretty well too.

    persona.
    
    Personna is a brand of razor blade.
    
    NNTTM.

See what I mean?

    
    Maybe he meant that some boxers are sharp!
    
    -b

    You need not thank me, either, Gerald.

 Phew, that was a close shave!

    
    
    no more wolfman???
    
    %^<
    
    
    

I know Bob Ross' death is being discussed in New Briefs rather than here,
but . . . 

From Gary Larson's book, "Weiner Dog Art", page 74 -

	Living room. On the wall, two framed pictures with trees in them.
	Through the ceiling and an adjacent wall, a large ragged, dark gash,
	through	which has smashed a very large tree trunk, pinning beneath it
	on the floor a woman in a house dress (dead as a doornail, no doubt),
	amidst the rubble of a smashed easel and canvas, which has a tree
	painted on it. A mournful toy poodle sits at the feet of the woman,
	looking at the prone corpse questioningly. Against the wall with the
	hanging pictures, is a table model teevee, with the image of a man
	painting trees on a knoll, saying -
		"Use nice even strokes, and always remember to make
		 your trees look like happy trees."

Speaking of teevee artists, anybody remember Jon Gnagy?

	<-- I had all his instruction books as a kid.
	    I probably still have them someplace.

I got a Jon Gnagy "Learn to Draw Kit" when I was a leetle feller.

    Me too!

    
    Harry Guardino (sp?), veteran character actor.
    

 Bummer.

	Did he do anything that we would remeber him in? The name sounds
familiar....

 You'd know him if you saw him.

    I don't remember Guardino from any memorable films, but he could
    be seen quite often on every variety of TV drama during the 70's
    and early 80's.  Caught him on a Kojak re-run just the other night.
    
    

    
    He was in `Dirty Harry', as Eastwood's boss or senior partner.
    

    
    
    But the big question is, was he ever one the love boat or fantasy
    island....

    
    He was in several Dirty Harry films, and played Judas in one of the 
    Jesus "bio-pics" (well, I think it was Judas). Lots of TV and stage
    too.

    Harry Guardino was in one of my favorite movies, "Lovers and Other
    Strangers", made in 1970.  He played Anne Meara's husband.
    
    He was in a couple of TV shows from the early 1960's, playing either
    a cop or a reporter, I think.
    
    I'll bet he was in "The Love Boat" and "Fantasy Island", too! :-)
    Most everyone was, at one time or another, or even several times.
    
    Chris

>    I'll bet he was in "The Love Boat" and "Fantasy Island", too! :-)
>    Most everyone was, at one time or another, or even several times.

Not me.

    
    Gerald, How would you know? You don't have a TV.
    

>    I'll bet he was in "The Love Boat" and "Fantasy Island", too! :-)
>    Most everyone was, at one time or another, or even several times.

Then there was a whole raft of people, such as Bert Convy, who were never
on anything EXCEPT Love American Style, The Love Boat, and Fantasy Island.

	a whole raft of people?  little pun there?

As little as I could manage. This is Obits, afterall.

>    Gerald, How would you know? You don't have a TV.
    
I did then.

    
    
    You were only on in the repeats, Gerald....

>    You were only on in the repeats, Gerald....

Mike, two girls in Mass were stabbed by a psycho as they sunbathed.  The
psycho hadn't taken his anti-psychotic meds in two years.  Take heed, and
take your meds.

    
    
    heh,heh,heh,heh,heh,heh,heh,heh,heh,heh
    
    So, Gerald.  Where do you live again?

Calm down, Mike.  I don't sunbathe.

    And he doesn't live again, either.

    And he looks terrible in a bikini.

    
    
    Don't flatter yourself, gerald.

    Harry Guardino also co-starred with Angela Lansbury and Lee Remick
    in the Stephen Sondheim musical "Anyone Can Whistle".

    
    angela lansbury... aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrghhhhhh
    
    she said angela lansbury.... that's it; i'm heading for the
    clock tower!!!
    
    angela $$#@@&!@#&@#&!@&#$% lansbury. gaaaaaaaaaaaag.
    
    -b

    
>>    angela $$#@@&!@#&@#&!@&#$% lansbury. gaaaaaaaaaaaag.

	my sentiments exactly.

    
    
    My kids have Bedknobs and Broomsticks.  I can't get over how Angela
    hasn't changed in the past 30 years.....I don't think it's that she
    looks young now, she just looked fairly old way back then.

    Angela looked really good way back in the 50`s when she was in the move
    "The Ten Commandments". 

	.561  eesh.  i don't think she ever looked "really good".

    
    
    I don't thing she ever even looked "fairly good".
    

>    My kids have Bedknobs and Broomsticks.

Have they been to the pediatrician?

 or a witch doctor?

Oo ee oo ah ah ting tang walla walla bing bang.

    and then he shrunk your head?

    
    <-----
    That could explain alot !
    
    Dan

    
    Anyone can whistle
    That's what they say
    Easy
    
    Anyone can whistle
    Any old day
    Easyyyyyyyyyyyy
    
    It's all so simple
    Relax, let go, let fly
    So someone tell me, why can't I?
    
    
    
    (I can't remember the rest of the words.)
    

      Manchurian Candidate - good movie.  Man, she was a baddie, huh?
    
      Angela Lansbury's looks have changed the least in the greatesT
      amount of time for any human being in history!!

	Edward G. Robinson's looks didn't change too much either.

What about Liz Taylor?  Oh.  Never Mind.

    
    Trumpeter Percy Humphrey, the oldest active jazz musician in
    New Orleans, in his sleep Saturday, at age 90.
    

    .574
    
    "Just a closer walk with thee..."
    
    Sad news.  Percy was a great trumpeter and a wonderful man.  I'd guess
    that there's rejoicin' in Heaven, with his older brother Willie first
    in line to welcome Percy home.

    Charley Rich died yesterday from a blood clot in the lungs. He was 62.

    
    and who was charlie rich?
    

    Country western singer. Also nick named the Silver Fox because he went
    completely whited haired at 23. Songs include "Behind Closed Doors","A
    Very Special Love Song", "You Made it Beautiful", and "on My Knees".

    One time presidential candidate George Romney died of natural 
    causes (believe he was 88).
    
    

In reading Romney's obituary in the paper, I see he was born in Mexico.
How could he become president?

>In reading Romney's obituary in the paper, I see he was born in Mexico.
>How could he become president?


  He didn't become president as I recall ;-)



  Doesn't the constitution say a president can be born out of the country if
  born of American citizens?  I am a little rusty on that.




 Jim

    .581
    
    Article II, Section 1:
    
        No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United
        States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitition, shall be
        eligible to the office of President...
    
    "Natural born" has been interpreted to mean born within the territory
    of the country.  The 14th Amendment says:
    
        All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject
        to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and
        of the State wherein they reside.
    
    Further deponent sayeth not.

 Thanks..

    
    Dwayne Garrett, 48, Democratic party operative and SF talkshow host.
    
    Took the GG Bridge plunge. Noone knows why.