Conference back40::soapbox

    
    Last day.  See y'all.  

    is he gone yet?

    you buzzards and vultures won't have gene haag to kick around anymore.
    i resigned today.

            <<< Note 41.3 by HAAG::HAAG "Rode hard. Put up wet." >>>

>    you buzzards and vultures won't have gene haag to kick around anymore.
>    i resigned today.


	Some of us will. ;-)

Jim

    dammit, gene, how COULD you?
    
    best of luck where you're going.  think about us every once in a while
    when you're drunk enough to get soppy.

    
    
    Yeah, and you'll be out here occaisionally I imagine.  Hell, I'll take
    orders from the boxfolks and give them to you when you're out here.
    
    Congrats, Gene.  Keep the powder dry,
    
    
    Mike

    Gene, say it ain't so!

    To Gene:
    
    Pack light, keep low, move fast, and reload often.  
    
    

	Mother DEC's losing a great one, Gene.  Hope
	you have a great opportunity lined up and that
	The Company didn't push you one too many times.

	I've enjoyed your contributions here and have
	tremendous respect for the strength of your
	convictions.  Wish I'd made it to the Boxbash,
	to meet the legend in person, when you last made
	your way East.

	Give 'em hell, wherever you're going.

	Joanne

Crap.

I wonder if he really means it this time?

:^)
Good luck, Gene.

>            -< Not what I wanted to hear today.  Good luck anyway. >-

>Crap.

Somethings can pull any folks together. I agree with John Covert. 

Gonna miss you Gene, however I do know where to send the subversive mail
you'll still be hearing from me.

Best of luck, Digital is losing big-time this time.

Amos

    Good luck and God bless you.

    A bad ending to a bad day...
    
    Good luck and Godspeed, Gene.
    
    -steve

	you really hate flying that much????

	best of luck to ya.

    Gene... you are kidding.. right?
    
    

        All the best in CO, Gene - keep in touch turkey! Or else!
        Well send out a posse (ah say, that's _posse_) of MSO_Babes...
        
        Andy
        

    At least gene is an import who knows how to drive on slick roads.
    
    be seing you soon haagermeister.  have to see if two bohemians can
    discuss beer quality civilly.
    
    meg

   After all you've put up with, Gene, I can't imagine what could have been
   the last straw.  You've fought the good fight.  Best wishes!

    Another one bites the dust :-(  I'm sad for us, happy for you.
    Good luck.
    
    Karen
    

    given the reports you've shared of life in the trenches I would've
    expected this long ago.  best wishes on your new road.
    
    DougO

    gees. thanks. so you wanna have one last bash? it'll be on walker lake
    in north central MN on new years eve. bring your tents, mittens, and
    gloves.
    
    
Note 41.18 by CSC32::M_EVANS 
    
    
    >be seing you soon haagermeister.  have to see if two bohemians can
    >discuss beer quality civilly.
    
    ah...meg, ain't you a liberal? that would sorts overrule the bohemian
    stuff. maybe we should agree up front to leave the iron at home. that'd
    be best.

    Has he gone yet?

    NO!!!! you twit. i just resigned today. i'll be here for a bit. you can
    be damn sure i ain't gonna snivel and grovel my last few days like
    some.

    Uh huh.

    YEAH!!!!!!!!!
    
    I love it when someone makes a move that's good for them!
    
    Of course, for the rest of us....spit:-(
    
    Take care, my friend.
    
    Bob

    GH quits once in each box.  He quit in the last one, we all wept,
    "Please say it isn't so".  He left for what seemed to be way too short
    of a time, and was back.
    
    Here we go again.  Let's play the game...
    
    Gene say it isn't so.  Good luck.  Bye-Bye.  AMF.
    
    See you in a week.
    
    -- Jim

Gene, just _who_ are you calling buzzards and vultures?
I won't have it. It's unAustralian.  It may be good enough for the seppos to 
be buzzards and vultures, but if I'm going to be called a carrion eater I'd 
rather it was an _Australian_ carrion eater!

Chele, an Aussie 'gull

    omidear, mr. ague is so shortsighted. 
    
    tell ya what chele, i woulda luv'd the day we coulda met. YOU would
    never forget.

Gene,

It's been a pleasure, treasure.

Shortsightedness can be interesting. You can bump into the nicest people!



Chele

    Good luck! Enjoyed thoughts - opinions - combat...
    
    Best wishes...
    
    Chip

	\gene \haag
	
	gud lock dood.
	
	\bye
	\Jay

    
    
    	Gene, don't leave me! Not when I haven't ventured far enuff into
    the OSF1 realm to be left on my own. :*)
    
    
    	Seriously, good luck in where ever you're going. Somebody's gaining
    a great person...DEC is losing one....
    
    
    jim

    
    How can we replace someone who can get a 122 lb. sausage from a
    Minnesota buck ?
    
      bb

Gene has a 122 lb. sausage?

    Could be wurst.

This is definitely a "thing to hate today", for all of us.  

Good for you Gene, best wishes in whatever comes your way.  Just make sure 
you keep educating...

Geoff

    What? You don't like sausage?

    gene,
    
    constitutional conservative, social liberal, remember?  I wasn't
    thinking of me it's the bohemian other half I live with.  Brews some of
    the finer beers you will run into around here.
    
    since I believe shootin irons and beer don't mix, we definitely will
    agree to leave the heat at home.
    
    meg

	BTW, I must confess to Gene before he leaves,
	that he has supplied me with my favorite new
	comeback/insult:




























		COSSACK!






'Tis true....  I use it whenever necessary.

joanne

    This troubles me.

    
    My favorite term of endearment is:
    
      "Stinkin Leper"!!
    

Note 41.34 by GAAS::BRAUCHER
    
    >How can we replace someone who can get a 122 lb. sausage from a
    >Minnesota buck ?
    
     that's from one buck, one doe, and some pig from IA. i just can't go
    any slower so you will just have to keep up.
    

    
    >>"Stinkin Leper"!!
    
    
    ..in blaq silq no less.... :>:>:>:>
    
    

    Good bye Gene!   Good luck in your new ventures.
    
    
    I'm sure you'll make a wonderful nun!
    
    -Jack

    cossack!!!

	Gene, will you be passing your pattened CRAP onto one of the babes? I
can't think of anyone in this file who would use it better!


Glen

    glen,
    
    in my final note, i shall pass on all my beloved trademarks. even those
    what i stole from others as they were leaving. in due time. 

    Glen,
    
    I get it....me me me .... MINE!!!!!
    
    can I have it Gene?  canIcanIcanI!!!  

    
    Cossack ?  Or was that Cassock ?
    
    Is GH taking vows ?
    
      bb

I used to have a big cassock in front of my easy chair so I could put
my feet up on it and relax.

    
    
    
    er.....Jack, you been in the eggnog agin? :')

	<---	Was the priest still in it?
		Wouldn't that be sacrilege?

No. I'm an atheist.

    Not only that, he doesn't believe in god.

Thx, Gill.

	Gee, just when I was gettin gused to you....

	Good luck out in the real world.

	Where ya going.....To work for MailRoom ????? %^)

    
    
    pssssssttttt.....glen...it's "patented"...2 t's not 3... :>
    
    

    
    Well Gene, I guess this time you really meann it!! Damn glad I got
    the chance to meet you and do some shooting at Corky's. Will miss
    your notes. Where in CO are you heading?? Good luck in your future.
    
    Mark
    
    Keep in touch

    
    >Well Gene, I guess this time you really meann it!! Damn glad I got
    >the chance to meet you and do some shooting at Corky's. 
    >Will miss your notes. 
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    a sure sign of a perverted and wasted mind.
    
    

    HAAG
    
    If life was an Indian Takeaway, you would be a Fish'n'Chip shop.

    
    	Goodbye. Good luck. Have a nice life.  Stay loaded (double
        entendre).
    
    	Have a rat on me.
    
    

    
    Oh Dear!
    
    As John put it, .3 *is* a real crap reply. 
    
    Take care, Gene, and all the best for your and your family's future.
    
    Heiko

    
    Most things already stated by others ...
    
    ... even though I do not share some of your opinions ...
    
    ... nevertheless I enjoyed your topics, replies and comments, they were
    sometimes the frosting on the cake. I will surely miss them.
    
    Take care and good luck
    
    Felix  
    
    an German WSRM (write sometimes read many)

    Well, Haagster, guessing you is really serious this time, was good
    knowing you, arguing with you, 'bashing' with you...guess I see ya next
    time to fly in or at Corky's next spring.
    
    The sheep all feel safer now at Beltsville Agricultural Center :[_

Note 41.65 by FRNEDI::BAPISTELLA
    
    >... nevertheless I enjoyed your topics, replies and comments, they were
    >sometimes the frosting on the cake. I will surely miss them.
    
    i hereby anoint this hear pilgrim st. felix.

    .65
    
    > frosting on the cake
    
    opinions differ.  i've heard remarks to the effect that they were the
    frosting on a certain portion of one's anatomy.

	and it's a good thing they didn't put birthday candles on that cake...
it'd be a blazing fire!


Glen

    COSSACKS!!!!

    ... it PISSES ME OFF!!   :-(
    
    You'll be sorely missed, both professionally & in 'BoxLand, Gene.
    
    Keep in touch... send us yer EMail & your URL, y'hear...
    

            <<< Note 41.61 by HAAG::HAAG "Rode hard. Put up wet." >>>

    
>    >Well Gene, I guess this time you really meann it!! Damn glad I got
>    >the chance to meet you and do some shooting at Corky's. 
>    >Will miss your notes. 
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
>    a sure sign of a perverted and wasted mind.

At last, we agree! It is an affliction from which most of us 'boxers suffer,
one way or another. 

Good luck, Gene.

Tom    
    

Re: <<< Note 41.3 by HAAG::HAAG "Rode hard. Put up wet." >>>

>>    you buzzards and vultures won't have gene haag to kick around anymore.
>>    i resigned today.

Yes!  Glad to hear it.  A loss for DEC and a gain for us!

                    Roak

    roak,
    
    i'll be getting my CO drivers lic. the first week of jan. i will be
    legal to vote as quickly as possible. and i DO vote.

    	re .73
    
    	Who be "us"?
    
    	Colorado?  I agree with you.
    
    	SOAPBOX?  I disagree.

Re: <<< Note 41.75 by CSC32::J_OPPELT "Plucky kind of a kid" >>>

>>    	re .73
>>    	Who be "us"?
>>    	Colorado?  I agree with you.
>>    	SOAPBOX?  I disagree.

Colorado.

    	Yup.  It ain't appropriate for us to be talking about Gene in
    	the Good Bye topic.
    
    	Is there a Hello topic?

	Gene, Teekema has a picture of you on the wall of his office!

	No dart holes in it...........honest %^)

    re .79
    
    yeah,
    
    
    but don't tell him about the other holes.

	MEG!!!!! I like that....

    This troubles me.

        

	>>Gene, Teekema has a picture of you on the wall of his office!
    
    which one? i want to know if i need to congatulate him or call him a
    scum sucking slimeball.

    
      which one?  It's probably the naked one he made copies of and
    sent to me.
    
      Wozie

That was probably Claude Monet.

    if he did that rose i is gonns skin him alive. but then, one of me in
    the buff did get scanned in a couple of years ago. but i think all
    copies of that one have been properly purged. i hope.

           you mean the one where YOU were being improperly purged?

    nyet, danny. the ladies were doing the .... purging.

    So DO tell, ... wuz it good fer U too?

	snicker, snicker, snicker............Bwah hah hahhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    Daggnabbit.........
    
    I can't believe it.  He's gone, my favorite boxing partner is gone.
    Well I missed my opportunity to say goodbye.  Take your head out of the
    box for a second, and wow!
    
    Where ever life takes you Mr Haag, may this blessing guard your rear and 
    your front:
    
    May love protect you from hatred, 
    May Joy consume your sorrows,
    and may peace reign in your life, 
    while living in a world filled with chaos. 
    
    
    Kimball Sean Scott  
    
    

    Stop blathering, he'll be here for a couple weeks yet.  You can get
    soppy plenty more times.  But I wouldn't expect HaagMan to reciprocate.
    

    Yaaaaaaaaah,
    
    You mean I get to punch on the old hag bag some more.  Yaaah arroooo
    
    Punching on a pinhead, punchin on a pinhead.:-)
    
    OOooooooooww I feel good, dunt dunt OOOOOOOOOOOOWW.
    
    
    Suddenly.........
    
    Aahh, what does reciprocate mean? <heeh heeh>
                     

    All joking aside.....
    
    Haag, 
    
    .92 was real
    
    
    Peace.
     

	It has a picture of a wolf, in sheeps clothing. Quite the picture!
Matches the one I saw of you at a box bash once.... well, you didn't have 
the sheeps clothing then.....

   You mean the picture made the ladies puke?

	No, he had clothes on in the picture I saw. 

Note 41.97 by TNPUBS::JONG
    
   >>You mean the picture made the ladies puke?
    
    rrright, jongy. just remember, tho i ain't a raving beauty, i DO got
    piks of you pal. would be real easy to scan them in and pass them
    around.

	Go ahead Gene, I dare ya................%^)

   I don't remember that.  Are you sure it's me?  At any rate,
   I am undeterred by that "threat" 8^)
   
   (Remember, I have head shots of myself stored in a public directory.)

>> (Remember, I have head shots of myself stored in a public directory.)


	What caliber did you use..........??? %^)

   f2.4, I believe.

    >I'm told I look cute in shorts 8^)
    
     Relative to what? :-)

Note 41.101 by TNPUBS::JONG
    
   >>I don't remember that.  Are you sure it's me?  At any rate,
   
    its you alright. got 'em gary roberts and darch - rest their imortal
    'boxsouls.

   You sure it wasn't Al Call me Al?
   
   Well, I wasn't drunk, I had my clothes on, and if it was taken
   downstairs I didn't have my hands on anyone, so I guess I have no
   complaint.
   
   (Hey, this is the good-bye note!  Why am I here?)

Note 41.106 TNPUBS::JONG
    
    >> -< Post away, if you care to >-
    
    you got nerve. i'll give ya that. will be posted to:
    
       HAAG::TEMP:STEVE_JONG.GIF
    
    sometime tomorrow. come to think of it. i think i will post a BUNCH of
    peoples piks in there tomorrow.
    
   

    
    i.e., a pair of pants.  What WERE you thinking!!?  |-{:-)
    

    
    
    One of the sad ascpects of Gene's resignation is that we can no longer
    have that classic response to his introduction:
    
    --------
    
    Note xx.yy by HAAG::HAAG   ---< Introdictions >---
    
    I'm gene. I've forgot my last name.
    
    --------
    
    Note xx.yz by KRIS::HATASHITA ---< Introductions >---
    
    hi gene
    
    --------
    
    
    That was the moment I decided to read carefully when the -san was
    replying.
    
    
    
    Heiko

	The night before the night before Christmas, the boxers were
	shaking their heads
	At the dismal and woeful news they had read

	The word had come down from the Minnesota shores
	That one of our legends would be noting no more

	Our dream had been dashed, as if without care
	Gone were our hopes that St. Gene would always be there

	"No more will I take", he exclaimed with a frown,
	"No more will I let this bureaucracy get me down"

	"I'm off to Colorado - a new place to spout my tales"
	"And maybe open a business called 'Seminards for Males'"

	"I'm gonna Ride Hard and Put up Wet",
	"And not worry about the sheep I'm no longer gonna get"

	Gene was mynly and dynamic, although when needed, had a 
	gentle touch
	(Except when he was raving about gun control and Rush!)

	Now he's leaving the Soapbox and heading out of the city
	To a place where his hunting may land him wapiti

	With his family in his truck and his plans all made
	Gene whistled and shouted Goodbye to his Babes....

	"Goodbye Jandrow, Goodbye Laur, Goodbye Woodford and Kelly",
	"Farewell Morales, Lady Di, Rose-BIGQ and Chelsea"

	So with a great big hug and a pat on the back,
	We will wish Gene the best and say "Au revoir to you - - COSSACK!"

-----------------------------------

	Seriously Gene, I enjoyed your participation in the 'box and
	wish you nothing but the best for the future.  If you ever find
	yourself in my neck of the woods, give me a call.

	Chris Butkovich

    <----  8-) Truly a talent!

    
    
    	that was great! :*)
    
    

    
    Good 'un, Chris!!!!
    

    Whooa!  Wait a minute.  Did someone say that Gene was moving to
    Colorado?  Colorado Springs??  MCI???  Better warn him that our Big
    Horned Sheep out here don't tolerate no pussy-footing around.
    
    Welcome!  If nothing else you'll love the politics out here.  We got so
    many crowded over to the right here, that it is truly a religious
    experience.  In fact so many that the right side of El Paso county is
    actually over 5000 feet lower than the left.  And the local rag, the
    GT, it's got an editorial page that you'll die for.
    
    -- Jim

    omidear.
    
    thank you so much chris. you are truely an amazing and wonderful
    wimmins.

    gene already knows how i feel 'bout this and has for some time.
    
    

    TOP TEN REASONS WHY STEVE JONG IS LEAVING DIGITAL

10.	Alarmed by group's new vision ("We don't need you") 
    	and mission ("Get the hell out!") statements.
    
9.	Couldn't adjust to thought of becoming oldest player in 
	Littleton Volleyball League.
8.	Concerned that Bob Palmer might repeat his Mostek accomplishment
	and turn Digital into a billion-dollar chip maker.
7.	After hearing own arrangement of "The Chipmunk Song" performed for KO,
	there was nothing left to achieve in DECarolers.
6.	Saw more familiar faces at interviews than in corridors of LKG.
5.	Ten-minute commute wasn't challenging enough.
4.	PC disk filled up; no one knows how to order another.
3.	Eight years at DEC just proved that working for a start-up is
	risky.
2.	Bitchin' going-away party! (After hours, of course)
1.	Started taking SOAPBOX seriously; plans to taper off with
	Internet discussion group alt.politics.usa.newt-gingrich.

    Seriously, I am leaving voluntarily, but not of my own free will,
    because I wish I could stay here.  It will be an adjustment to  go to a
    company one-quarter the size of my organization (Shared Engineering
    Services), but if all goes as planned, next year at this time it will
    be larger -- which is why I'm leaving!

    It will also be an adjustment to leave the stimulation of SOAPBOX.
    (Yeah, I guess that's the right word 8^).  In the eight years I have
    contributed to this conference I have had encounters with most of you,
    and I will remember them all.  I've enjoyed meeting those of you I've
    seen at the few 'Box bashes I could attend, and I like to think I've
    made some friends with people I shall never meet face-to-face.

    Unless Digital gets sticky about it, this is my last week here.
    I'm trying to take next week as a vacation week; after that I'll be
    an employee of Lightbridge, Inc., in Waltham, Massachusetts.
    The main number there is (617) 890-2000 if you wish to contact me.
    It is on the Internet, but the company's just changed its name, so I
    have no idea what me E-mail address will be now.
    
    I'd like to offer, if I may, a word of advice.  Your reputation is
    inescapable; what you do reflects on you, even in ephemeral media like
    electronic mail and conferencing.  Keep that in mind the next time you
    have the urge to flame someone. 

    As for me, I am content to stand on my 'Box reputation. For the record,
    I've never told a deliberate lie or taken a position opposed to my
    personal belief, so what you've read of me is pretty much what I am. 
    Except...  Now that the Republican Party is on top and the national
    Democratic Party is on the ropes, I think it's time to make a switch. 
    I have done what I thought was most important to maintain a strong
    two-party system in this state, but my work there is done. That's
    right -- at the next election, I switch from Republican to Democratic!

    Good luck Steve... The 'box'll be a much more barren place without
    ya.
    
    Chip

    Oh dear.  And we've never met, either 8^(.           
    
    Best of luck, Steve.  Waltham!  Make sure to pop into the Iguana Cantina or
    Bambino's for cocktails after work some days.  Any chance we can talk you 
    into reserving a date for a goingawaytypeboxbash 8^)?

    and another long-term noter leaves.  
    
    
    Several short words can only express this loss.  However any and all of
    them would be set hidden.
    
    Best wishes Mr. Jong.
    
    meg

    sayonara, Steve.

    Goodbye and goodluck, Steve.  Hope the change is beneficial to your
    career!

Geez, the boat's now listing even more to the right!

Very sorry to see you go, comrad 8^). Who will fill in for your articulate 
and informed arguments for the left? Not me, certainly. I may be wordy, but 
I'll never be Wordy.

I wish you the best of luck, Steve. 

Tom

PS: If your new company needs any writers, let me know.

    Tom:
    
    Few can hold a candle up to Wordy...

    	Well, I was going to leave you something in my "will" when the
    	deal with Oracle took me off the DEC network.  I guess I'll
    	have to give it to you now.
    
    	To Steve Wordy Jong, I leave a suit of armor with a DENT in it.

    what Joe, no ch.........

    
    
    The best to you, Steve.
    
    
    Mike

    oh rats.  Steve, please send me the complete budget workup before you
    go, someone's gotta keep the wishful rightwingers in here honest.
    
    DougO

    If you think I'm worth a bash, I can make time available... 8^)

    
    Ooh!  Ooh!  Did somebody say "party"?

    
>    I'd like to offer, if I may, a word of advice.  Your reputation is
>    inescapable; what you do reflects on you, even in ephemeral media like
>    electronic mail and conferencing.  Keep that in mind the next time you
>    have the urge to flame someone. 
    
    uh oh!

Note 41.127 by CSC32::J_OPPELT
    
    	>>To Steve Wordy Jong, I leave a suit of armor with a DENT in it.
    
    dent? i'd say he stripped the armor clean off more than once.

    Steve...  Steve...  Gawrsh, you'll be missed....
    
    I just *gots* to make this party...  I'll be sure to bring the silly
    hat.  & the laser-pointer too, just to harass MzDeb wif, just like ole
    times.
    
    Hey, if there are ANY lurkers out there who're liberals, PLEASE come
    outen the woodwork & try to fill Jong's shooz... ???
    
    :-(
    
    DrDan, aka |-{:-(
    

    drdan's pleas for more liberals is really funny. the ratio of liberals
    to conservatives in this forum is fairly close to society at large. the
    entire country is moving right. we've a lot to thank for that, chiefly
    slick. if the country had kept sliding to the left i fear another civil
    war may have occured. 
    
    one thing that's obvious. the electorate is MUCH more informed, and
    much more inclined to not "just follow" along, than ever before.
    liberals are finding that an educated populace is not necessarily
    friendly to their cause. and in the last 40 years or so how much have
    we spent on programs that did NOTHING to educate the masses? it
    staggers the mind to even think about it.

    one good election and they start restin' on their butts.  Yeah, gene,
    the country is moving to the right, yeah, the public is more informed,
    yeah, right.  what're you smokin' today, anyway?
    
    DougO

good-bye steve, and best of luck as you with your new company.  if you
approach your new job with the same tenacity you have demonstrated while
articulating your positions here in the 'box, you'll be head writer in
no time. 8^)  another bad day for dec, though; one wonders when we will
have seen the last one.

bill

    dougo,
    
    do you believe that an informed public is wrong? or are you just being
    stubborn? again.

    
    good luq, steve...don't forget to get a v-ball team going
    there...doesn't matter how old you are as long as you can still play
    the game!!
    
    -raq
    

    Sooo Jong, it's been good to know you.  (repeat)
    
    -- Jim
    
    Lets see, if the 'box is heavier on the rightside, with one each of Gene 
    and Steve leaving, does that raise the percentage of leftists in the box?

	Steve - Best wishes for the future.  Hope your new job provides
	        you with amply opportunity to remain "Wordy"


	Regards,

	Chris

    The Jong and the restless.
    
    
    Good luck Steve.

    It's a hard "J," actually, but thanks!

    >do you believe that an informed public is wrong?
    
    Do I believe that your claim that the election results are due to a
    more informed public than in the past 40 years is wrong?  Yes.  If we
    had an informed public then OJ would get the airtime he deserves.  If
    we had an informed public then the election campaigns would be fought
    on issues that matter, not scapegoating and mudslinging.  If we had an
    informed public then *all* obstructionist do-nothing politicians would
    be out on their butts, not just the ones with bad hairdos.  What we
    have, Gene, is not an informed public.  What we have is sound-bite
    mediocrities posturing at issue-of-the-week newshounds for the
    delectation of Joe Six-pack (OJ) and the horror of Joe Average (Prop
    187), to the disgust of Joe Informed (me and thee, though sometimes I'm
    none too sure about thee.)  We have an informed public?  Make me laugh
    again, usually this issue makes me cry!
    
    DougO

    Yes, J's are hard come to think of it, it's that little curl that
    makes my crayon jerk and my tongue stick out.

    ;-)

    Good luck Steve.  I'm sure we'll meet again in cyberspace.

Note 41.145 by SX4GTO::OLSON
    
    If we had an informed public then OJ would get the airtime he deserves.
    
    i told you to stop eating those mushrooms.
    
    >If we had an informed public then the election campaigns would be fought
    >on issues that matter, not scapegoating and mudslinging.  If we had an
    >informed public then *all* obstructionist do-nothing politicians would
    >be out on their butts, not just the ones with bad hairdos.  
    
    you NEVER get *all* of something. OTOH, this past election showed that
    the american public is beginning to see past the BS and make sound
    decisions on their own. this inspite of huge efforts by the media to swing
    them differently. is the public "well" informed? prolly not. but they
    are better informed than ever before. and we've no need to thank
    anyone but ourselves for that. if this is to be a country governed by
    the wishes of the people, then the people must rise up and take charge.
    take responsibility. slick has performed one task admirably well. he
    has scared americans into becoming better informed. and they didn't
    like what they saw. and said so loudly. this is goodness. a society of
    sheep that follows without question results in a totally oppressed
    society or one that breaks out in total civil war.

    You try to gloss over the example that the OJ circus indicates the
    electorate is more influenced by entertainment value than by
    substantive coverage of issues.  Ignoring the point doesn't disprove
    it, Gene!  You really want to pretend the voters are more informed? 
    Must I go on?  is the trend ever upward?  Were they more informed in
    '88 when they rejected Dukakis or in '92 when they rejected Bush?
    
    This is a blood-and-circuses populace and your pipe dreams of an
    informed electorate will be blown away in the cold wind of the next
    fickle election result.
    
    DougO

    	Most of "the electorate" don't care about the OJ circus, which
    	points to yet another example of how out of step with reality
    	the media really are.

    One network tried to reduce OJ coverage early in the season- their
    viewers screamed first, then deserted them in droves.  The point is
    made- its the biggest news story of the year.  The year-end news
    summaries admit it.  The GOP took the House for the first time in 40
    years, both House and Senate and majority of Governorships for the
    first time in a centurty, and the alleged murder of his ex-wife by a
    former football star/movie actor is a bigger story.  This is NOT an
    informed electorate.
    
    DougO

Note 41.149 by SX4GTO::OLSON 
    
    >You try to gloss over the example that the OJ circus indicates the
    >electorate is more influenced by entertainment value than by
    >substantive coverage of issues.  Ignoring the point doesn't disprove
    >it, Gene!  You really want to pretend the voters are more informed? 
    >Must I go on?  is the trend ever upward?  Were they more informed in
    >'88 when they rejected Dukakis or in '92 when they rejected Bush?
    
    YOU are the one that glossed over my response. i am beginning to wonder
    if you read past the first line of some replies. i SAID that slick
    proposed sweeping changes alerted many americans to stand up and take
    heed of what was happening. they then voted those changes OUT! this is
    a MORE informed public. however, i agree that many remain braindead.
    they are in a minority that is getting smaller with each passing year.

    Well, some prominent departures indeed.
    
    First, there's Mr. Haag. Quite frankly, someone who I started out
    thinking was a bit gruff and uncultured, and who, I have since
    concluded, is a bit gruff and unclultured. None-the-less, I'd
    be hard pressed to name a finer man, and I've never even had
    the pleasure of meeting Mr. Haag. Most definitely will be missed.
    
    And then Mr. Jong, aka Wordy. I can't ever remember agreeing with
    anything he said, although I'm sure if I tried hard enough, I
    would find some issue that he's right about and hence in agreement
    with me... :-) Seriously though, it's been fun watching you slap
    "the other side", even when the slapee was me. I like a good
    brawl and I don't take any of it personally. You're a fine chap
    and I wish you the best, and every candidate you support the
    worst. Amen.
    
    -b

>    One network tried to reduce OJ coverage early in the season- their
>    viewers screamed first, then deserted them in droves.  The point is
>    made- its the biggest news story of the year.  
    
    	What network?  None out here carry it.  At least not live coverage
    	like you apparently get out there.
    
    	You're just basing your claims on your local population.  But
    	what do you expect from California?  You're right. *YOUR*
    	population is not an informed electorate.  All the informed
    	ones have already left and settled elsewhere.

    nice try, Joe.  The network was ABC.
    
    DougO

    
    i got live coverage of the oj stuff...unfortunately.
    
    and i am not in california
    
    

    Doug,
    
    Maybe one of the reasons the dims did so badly in the election was
    that most of the masses usually counted on by the dims stayed home
    to watch OJ coverage, while the rest of us (informed electorate)
    got out and did our civic duty :-)
    

Note 41.153 by MPGS::MARKEY 
    
    >First, there's Mr. Haag. Quite frankly, someone who I started out
    >thinking was a bit gruff and uncultured, and who, I have since
    >concluded, is a bit gruff and unclultured. 
    
    define unkultured!
    
    >None-the-less, I'd
    >be hard pressed to name a finer man, and I've never even had
    >the pleasure of meeting Mr. Haag. Most definitely will be missed.
   
    i wanna go on record right now that i ain't shaggin this person. never
    have. never will.

    Well, don't worry Gene. That thing that I assume hangs between your
    legs definitely puts you in the "not my type" camp.... and unless
    you got a whopper set of jugs and long thin legs you aren't of
    much interest anyway. :-)
    
    I just like your politics and taste in firearms, although sometimes I
    wish you weren't so bloody liberal.
    
    -b

    .159
    
    Haag liberal?????? ha!

    Loosen that corset... it's effecting your humor detector. :-)

Note 41.159 by MPGS::MARKEY 
    
    >I just like your politics and taste in firearms, although sometimes I
    >wish you weren't so bloody liberal.
    
    LIBERAL!! L I B E R A L !!!!!!
    
    where's my bullwhip?

    .161
    
    Corset does!

    Good. Very good.
    
    I'm going to have to bone up and get back to you.
    
    -b

    Good bye already!

    
    As .-1 said.
    
    Goodbye Steve. 
    Take care.
    
    I for one will miss you. 
    
    Heiko

.136
    
  >  drdan's pleas for more liberals is really funny. the ratio of liberals
  >  to conservatives in this forum is fairly close to society at large. the
    
    
    No, the ration of liberals to conservatives in this forum is fairly
    close to talk radio. The world of talk radio (and logical talk radio
    like sports bars, NRA meetings, fundamentalist churches and Soapbox) is
    so closed, inbred and self-referential that it can conceive of nothing
    for which it is not the paradym.
    
    Kit

    
    
    Kit,
    
    
    Still bitter after the last election, I see.  Nice broad brush you have
    there.  Typical liberal crap.
    
    
    hope this helps,
    
    Mike

>    No, the ration of liberals to conservatives in this forum is fairly
>    close to talk radio. The world of talk radio (and logical talk radio
>    like sports bars, NRA meetings, fundamentalist churches and Soapbox) is
>    so closed, inbred and self-referential that it can conceive of nothing
>    for which it is not the paradym.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the quote of the year in Soapbox!

/Scott

Note 41.167 by DOCTP::BINNS
    
    >No, the ration of liberals to conservatives in this forum is fairly
    >close to talk radio. The world of talk radio (and logical talk radio
    >like sports bars, NRA meetings, fundamentalist churches and Soapbox) is
    >so closed, inbred and self-referential that it can conceive of nothing
    >for which it is not the paradym.
    
    nice chain yank kit. disappointing tho. over the years i've grown to
    respect, if seldom agreeing, with your positions. this one i would have
    expected from the brits. but lets look at it anyway.
    
    talk radio covers all sides of issues. here in MN they are decidely
    liberal, anti-gun, pro clinton, anti rush. and they are much more
    viscious in their attacks on rush and newt then newt and rush ever have
    been on them. bitterness in the liberal/democratic camps runs deep. try
    to stay above the emotional irrational chain yanking they seem to be
    supporting. 
    
    its usually those that can't defend their position on its merit that
    stoop to name calling. its also a method employed by those exercising
    "panic politics". 

    Anent .168: Mike, explain why the WRKO weekly radio poll showed Mitt
    Romney with a consistent 80-point lead over Ted Kennedy right through
    until the election.

    /so closed, inbred and self-referential that it can conceive of nothing
    /for which it is not the paradym.(sic)
    
     What are we talking about here, a liberal "think" tank? The media?
    Higher education? Pseudo intellectuals? Could be any of these things,
    or the current administration and corresponding congressional
    democratic "brain trust."

    Gene (if you're still with us?) -- I never heard *anyone* suggest that
    talk radio wasn't hard right stuff. The right itself usually extolls it
    as the necessary counterpoint to the "liberal" press and other media.
    
    I've enjoyed your time in the box as well -- and I echo your sentiment
    in that I seldom agreed with your arguments. But I would ask, in all
    sincerity, that you look back and see how harsh, dismissive, and
    downright insulting you could be about any opinions with which you
    disagreed.  The reason you don't recognize that is precisely because
    the box is so unnaturally right-stacked, and you were simply part of
    the chorus who were cheering each other on.
    
    That kind of demonizing is not limited to the right, but here, and in
    the talk-show analog, such is the atmosphere.
    
    Regards, enjoy Colorado, and I hope you eventually land in Montana.
    
    Kit

Note 41.175 by DOCTP::BINNS
    
    >Gene (if you're still with us?) -- I never heard *anyone* suggest that
    
    for 24 more hours.
    
    >But I would ask, in all
    >sincerity, that you look back and see how harsh, dismissive, and
    >downright insulting you could be about any opinions with which you
    >disagreed.  
    
    by design.
    
    >The reason you don't recognize that is precisely because
    >the box is so unnaturally right-stacked, and you were simply part of
    >the chorus who were cheering each other on.
    
    and 4 years ago it was the liberals that had the place unnaturally
    left-stacked. and they weren't too kind to me - in soapbox. in "real"
    life i've not met a single noter here that i did't like.
    
    perhaps yet we will have a chance meet. stanger things have happened.

    stanger things?
    
    This frightens me.

    Geez, Gene, I've been in the box over 8 years, and I never saw a time
    when anyone to the left of Richard Nixon wasn't seriously outnumbered!
    
    Good luck on the big move.
    
    Funny, my wife and I use "going to Montana" as the short-hand for
    simply cutting all ties, starting over, leaving all responsibilities,
    etc. 
    
    I don't really want that, and we're really urban people (though
    country-raised), but as you get older and more circumscribed by family
    and community, and financial ties and responsibilities, such fleeting
    fantasies naturally arise.
    
    Anyways, that's why I wish you luck in your ultimate Montana caper!
    
    Kit

    
    
    Well Kit, if that's what you've seen then I think it safe to say that
    your perceptions are severely impaired.
    

Gene, if you move to Montana, will you be a dental floss tycoon?

    
    So is he gone yet ?  Did he take his Vikings with him ?  bb
    

	Looks like the cozack's are looking for one last brawl.....%^)

Note 41.178 by DOCTP::BINNS
    
    >Funny, my wife and I use "going to Montana" as the short-hand for
    >simply cutting all ties, starting over, leaving all responsibilities,
    >etc. 
    
    its more than that kit. its family, history, roots. no one should ever
    give up their dreams. ever. if you do you have succumbed to acceptable
    vs desired lifestyle. i have this theory about happiness and living. i'm
    gonna digress for those that want to next unseen
    
    
to truely be happy in life 3 things must come together.
    
      1. you must live where you want to live.
      2. you must work at what you really enjoy.
      3. you must enjoy the people you live and work with.
    
    item one is simple. i would be miserable in NYC. just as a person from
    that city might be in MT, or even CO. number two is fairly difficult to
    achieve since many of us choose vocations before we have really matured
    enough to make such a decision. most then work at something less than
    desirable thinking they can't change. they are wrong. if you want to make
    the sacrifices you can change your work. three,  you have the least
    control over. but you can control it to some extent. this is still the
    greatest country on the planet and its still possible to find people of
    similar persuasions and beliefs and still live in peace.
    
    i had a period in my life when none of the 3 were positive. SE asia,
    many years ago. i've also had a period when all 3 were positive -
    college (thrid time around) in rapid city, sd. if you can get 2 of the
    3 positive you should be relatively happy. unfortunately, most people
    can't. as for me, i've had to leave dec to get back to at least 2 being
    positive.
    
    life is a series of compromises. being a mostly free country yet, you
    can influence them.
    
    adios.

>>Gene, if you move to Montana, will you be a dental floss tycoon?
    
    no. a maker of leather belts and wool shirts.

    re: .183
    
    I'm in complete agreement with you, Gene (hey, what a way to go out!).
    That's actually why "moving to Montana" is only a fantasy, a kind of
    joke for us.  To me, community and ties here really *are* satisfying
    and *do* make me happy.  Cutting them would not make me happy. Can't
    say as I'm happy with work anymore, but I'll get that right soon, too.
    
    Kit

Re: <<< Note 41.183 by HAAG::HAAG >>>

>>          as for me, i've had to leave dec to get back to at least 2 being
>>    positive.

I hope you feel that Colorado satisfies your #1 criteria.  I know it does for
me!

                              Roak

    
    Best wishes, Gene, in your new endeavor!
    
    jeff

    Best wishes, Gene, in the new thing you're going to do.
    
    Gilligan

    All the best, ol' notin' buddy.  I've really enjoyed all our
    interactions -- you is one classy guy!!!  Stay in touch, heah!!???
    
    Sad to see ya go, but happy that you're going towards where you want.
    
    Sure to see ya on the 'Net...
    
    Dan, aka:
    
    'BoxRebbe, aka:
    
    |-{:-<
                   

    gees, thanks folks. but i ain't dead yet. tomorrow for sure.

    
    I don't want to go on the cart...
        

    
    
    Yup, tis a bad day for Digital, for ::SOAPBOX and for me.
    
    Digital is losing a technical talent which could contribute greatly to
    it's success.
    
    ::SOAPBOX is losing a valued contributor of whos like will not be seen
    again.
    
    And I am losing a very dear friend.  Peace and God bless you and your
    family Gene.  May joy and happiness always be with you and yours.
    
    
    Mike  

    
    
    you are not losing him, wannahunnie...you just have to go looking for
    him in a different place...
    
    
    

    
    
    Tis true, Raq.  
    
    
    Mike

	Gee.... this talk of Montana..... I should go visit my brother again.
Great place he has. 

Note 41.182 by GMT1::TEEKEMA 
    
	>>>Looks like the cozack's are looking for one last brawl.....%^)
                          ^^^^^^^
    
    THAT'S COSSACK, teeks. between you, the escobrat, and restroom these
    have been trying years indeed.

	Do you count me as one of your failures too Gene ??????

    re -1
    
    i ain't sayin.

    
    RE: -1
    
    >i ain't sayin.
    
    
    You saw it here first folks!!!!!!!!!

	I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it myself.


	I guess being mentioned in the same light as Mailroom is
an accomplishment (and compliment) in itself. %^)

    Well, it may be an accomplishment, but I don't think it's intended
    as a compliment... :-)

	That totally depends on ones aspirations......%^)

    Teeks, Teeks, Teeks, does it matter?  Be your own man fer heaven's
    sake.  Do not aspire to the level of another.  Travel your own path.  Be
    true to your own convictions.  Just don't pick your nose in public
    anymore.  
    
    Brian

	This from an "aspiring peasant"....................



	Boy all this social etticet (sp?) stuff is a real bitch.
Now I can't even pick my nose anymore. What's left ??

    Just not in public, that includes the car, while comuniting in braod
    daylight.  
    
    Brian

    
    etiquette.
    
    commuting.
    
    broad.
    
    

    <--- I wouldn't call you a broad. _ever_

    re: .204
    
    Did you all hear that???
    
    Tick called "etticet" a bitch!!!  You better apologize boy!!

| <<< Note 41.202 by GMT1::TEEKEMA "Tip toeing through the Tulips......" >>>


| That totally depends on ones aspirations......%^)



	Or lack thereof...

    Gene,
    
    Hope the new gig with MCI in the Springs works out well, that your move
    goes smoothly, and that your family holds up (moving is a royal pain!).
    
    When (not if) you come to Atlanta give us Southern Boxers a call.
    
    Too bad you won't be notin' here during the 104th session of Congress.
    
    Best of luck.  
    
    Dan

    thanks dan. i asked my manager if i could keep this system online till
    later tonight and shutdown from home. he agreed. there is so little
    time and so much work left to straighten dougo out.

 All the best, Gene...





 Jim who hopes to wind up in Colorado Springs one day.

    Bye to ya Gene.  Best o'luck.

Better MCI Colorado Springs than MCI Concord.

    
    <---- hehehe :*)  Good one
    
    
    
    Bye Gene!!!  Good luck!
    
    
    Terrie
    

    Congratulations and best of luck, Gene.  I remember the first time
    I saw one of your notes... it was prior to your SOAPBOX debut, though;
    it was in DIGITAL, and you were all psyched up about a big new project
    that was going to start up, and you were describing how great it
    was going to be, and how you were calling out to everyone who was
    capable and interested in getting involved in this great project
    that would be fun and would be great for the company as well.
    
    I remember thinking "Now there's someone with the right attitude!"
    Just about everything you've written in the intervening years has
    left me with the same impression.
    
    If you ever need any extra income, you can expand your original
    "Have you ever..." from the previous box into a book.  That was
    one of the best topics I've seen around here in the last few years.
    Everything from the mundane to the awesomely profound, just like
    real life.
    
    Have fun,
    Chris

    
    
    bye genie...
    
    
    {sniff}
    
    

    Is he gone yet?
    
    

    Seriously...best of everything in the future, Gene.  
    It goes without saying, but we'll all miss you.
    
    jc
    

    Best of luck at MCI, Colorado Springs.  I've got a lot of friends over
    there that used to wear the Digital Badge here at Customer Support. 
    When MCI came to town about 2-3 years ago, they sucked up a lot of good
    talent from Digital at a time when Digital needed to let talent go.
    
    When you're there, should you see Lauren Verno, Dave Peck, Jeff Mohrmann, 
    Skip Pumphrey, Andy Mullins, Mike Maddux, Cheryl Supino, Dave Gleason, 
    Dorothy Martin, Dave Gleason, Jim Capers, Harry Schroeder, (I'm sure
    there's more), say hi from me.
    
    -- Jim

    Is he gone yet?

'Bye Gene,


Chele

Good Luck in the Springs Gene and family.  Mad Mike and I are talking 
seriously about a southern boxbash.  Wouldn't be the same without ya!
Maybe after you settle in we can pull it off.

Gonna miss your notes,

Paul Morabito

    saying good bye is best kept short and, above all, sincere. i've drug
    this on to long.


i believe in honesty, sincerity, and personal integrity as dominating
lifestyle choices. without accepting those choices how could anyone look
in the mirror and like what they see? how?

good bye. god bless. and good luck to you all.

gene.

    Any chance we'll find you at haag@mcimail.com?
    
    -- Jim

    
    Bye Gene I enjoyed meeting you in October, and shooting with you
    at Corky's. You are a true gentleman. Best of luck.
    
    Mark

re: .221, Jim

And, don't forget Dave Gleason.

    Gene, I'm glad I was able to get a note to you just recently, but I
    regret to see that you are moving on.
    
    I'll miss your input tot he discussions here, but wish you the best of
    luck.
    

    Re: .228
    
    Uh, reread .221, I didn't.  %^)
    
    -- Jim

re:      <<< Note 41.230 by TINCUP::AGUE "DTN-592-4939, 719-598-3498(SSL)" >>>
>                         -< in the middle of the list >-


Er, yes, twice, if I'm not mistaken. Or were there two of him?

	Can ya imagine Gene doing an MCI commercial?? He'd be sittin there with
his various guns around him TELLING people to join MCI. :-)


Glen

	Rumor has it that another boxer, who shall remain nameless, will be
leaving our merry little party. Of course we'll have to wait until the future
to hear just WHO it is. 


Glen

	Please stop sending me mail.... I will NOT disclose the name of the
person leaving. That person will do so when they are ready. :-)  I will give
you a hint though..... nah, I'd be strung up.....

     "I've got a secret" is SO lame.

re:.234

C'mon...just between you and me...who is it?

	Why don't you whisper it to me............

    Oh come on. Look I've never even exchanged email with the people in
    question and I can figure it out... Look back through yesterday's
    things to like... who was beaming about things he couldn't divulge?
    Who has built a friendship with Glen based entirely (or so it
    seems) on every human's need to relieve themselves? Who claims
    to not have peeked?
    
    Sheeesh.
    
    -b

    Glen,
    
    If you don't disclose this information I will sik gentle ben on you!!!!

	Markey nailed this one...  I figgered it out as soon as
	Glen dropped the mega-hint.

	And I'm dumbed down, even.

    Good bye Glen
    
    
    
    

| <<< Note 41.235 by WAHOO::LEVESQUE "get on with it, baby" >>>

| "I've got a secret" is SO lame.

	It's another Madonna CLASSIC! It ain't lame...

	I WISH it were me! <insert many saying the same thing>  But it ain't.
It will come out today though....


Glen

    
        Oh silly me!  8*) I thought it was you......
    
    

    > I WISH it were me!
    
     I suspect your sentiments are widely shared. ;^)

    
    
    Good Bye Geoffrey!  It's been real.....
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

	Yes, you were right the first time.

	It's me, the Teekster.......The box will once again be safe
for women and children...........%^)

	Gave my notice this morning, this Friday will be my last day.

    
    
    Like I said....bye Geoffrey
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

	I will miss noting with you Terrie. You are one of the
few rays of sunshine in an otherwise dark place.

	I wish you well.	(sniff, sniff) 

    
    i'll miss you tweety.  best wishes in your new job or whatever you're
    leaving *for*!
    
    jeff

	Thanks. I have considered show biz........They would 
never take me..........Something about being uncontrolable... %^)

    and yer a poor speler too.

	Teek, I hear they are bringing back the show, Beauty and the Beast. Ya
could easily play the Beast. And no make-up would be needed! heh heh...

    
    
    <--------bwahahahahaha!!!
    
    
    :*)
    

    
       Glen, you could play Beauty.....

    Not that I'm even the slightest bit surprised... but best wishes Teek.
    Your potty training was almost complete and off you go. Oh well...
    It never sounded like you were all that happy here anyway. Since
    Gene Haag didn't will me his trademark epithet, I'm afraid I
    don't have license to call you, that most deserving of recipients,
    a cosack. Good luck in everything you do!
    
    -b

>    a cosack

My family consists of co-sackses.

	-b	Thanks. I hope all works out for all of you here
and that DEC is on the upswing.

	I am too motivated and driven to accomplish to survive
here in the long term.


	Glen........................You Cossack..........%^)
Ken is going to be awful lonely.

	And Binder, I will miss you correcting me all the time ( NOT )....

    
    Well for goodness sakes Teek, aren't you going to tell us where the
    heck you're going?

	I am heading to Boston Scientific which just recently bought
Prime Park in Natick. They are a medical instruments company that make
all sorts of stuff related to in blood stream treatment. They make those
baloons that they inflate in your blood vesel to unclog it and make
stuff they insert in the vesels to look inside.

	Great company, growing like crazy (40%/year) bonuses, the lot.
I will be building an IS organization from the ground up.	%^)

    angioplasty

    
    reminds me of the story my wife tells concerning her stint as a nursing
    student.  she was told to take a catheter out of this old man.  the
    tube stays in by inflating a small balloon once inside.  she forgot to
    deflate the balloon and tugged with a good deal of force.  the old man
    surely would have killed her if he could have overcome the pain. 
    shortly after that she had to treat an AIDS patient with anal warts -
    that did it for her.  goodbye bedpans!  she finished a degree and went
    on to a more glamorous career - flight attendant at Delta airlines.
    
    jeff

    
    And when did she become a, oh heck what was it, worn-out old
    skyhag?         
    
    I forget the exact words 8^).

    
    thankfully, she resigned before reaching that status!
    
    jeff

    Gee Teek, I hope this move is not a vein attempt to get attention.

    Bye Teek.  Best wishes...

	No, I was tired of getting no respect.......%^)

	Do you really think that's going to change???

    He just wants a lack of respect from a new crowd of people.  S'long
    Teeks.  
    
    Brian 

	Do ya think we should have a so long Teeks party? Would anyone be
interested???? 


Glen

 I have to wash my car that day

    I have to wash myself that day.

    
    Did somebody say "party"?

    
    
    Hey, Teeks just wants to be loved........is that so wroooong? (in my
    best New York SNL imitating voice....although I can't think of the guys
    name who used to do it).
    
    
    Mike

    
    Well, I'd go.....if I'm still awake by then.....
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

    I would love to go, really.  I have to wash my fish that day, right
    after I reroll all my pennies to get the heads to line up in the same
    direction, right after I rearrange my sock drawer.  
    
    Brian
    
    PS - if it is this Friday, it will be my birthday I have a date.  I was
    finally able to buy one.  

    -.1 Fed Ex Overnight I hope :-)
    
      Chip

    Shhhhhhh!  You were not sposed to tell.  I'm sending yours back!
    
    

	<----  re: the "date"

	Is she one of those wives from a catalog -- Hails from a Pacific Rim
	nation, very respectful, walks 10 paces behind you, etc.?

	;^)

	Sniff, sniff......I am all choked up..........

	At least some of the box babes care...........%^)

    Catalog wife?!?!?!?  No wife for me.  Been there, did that, taking a
    spell on the bench for the next period.  I think what Chip was crassly
    alluding to was a date that you deflate when the date is over :-).
    
    Brian

| <<< Note 41.276 by CONSLT::MCBRIDE "aspiring peasant" >>>


| PS - if it is this Friday, it will be my birthday I have a date.  I was
| finally able to buy one.

	A date???

    A whole box. Pitted, even.

    Does she have a nozzle to blow her up with? :-) :-)
    
    -b

    i guess i can only apologize to you for starting all of this
    Brian...
    
    Chip

    S'okay Chip.  It was engineered that way.  Do you think my lead in was
    accidental? :-)

    
       I hear dates are good for you when your constipated.
    
        

	OK, do people want to get together this Fried day in Maynard????? For
the Teekaramma send off? 


Glen

    Not only that, they'll help you go to the bathroom (sorry Glenn :-)

    they are THE best source of "in-exercise" carbo-replenishment
    (outside of liquids). they travel very well and bury fruits
    like bananas, and stuff like Fig Newtons. i loves 'em.

    In regard to the Teek sendoff: I will try to attend, if the location is
    not too out of the way... say somewhere in the 495/Rt2/290 belt.
    Sorry, but I can't give more than a tentative response at this time as
    there are managers here who would very much like to shoot me and I may
    be forced to work...
    
    -b

    
    I could rearrange my schedule to attend.

	I am honored that I am worthy of a send off.

	I would enjoy a last bash with all of you and will
even buy one round of drinks. (ONE as long as all of DEC 
doesn't show up ).

    Shhhhhhh! Don't tell everyone but Teeks is gonna buy a round of drinks
    at his going away bash.  Keep it quiet though.

    .293
    I`m in.....! 
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I guess I`ll just have to settle for a tonic at the local 7-11.

 Re .293



 I can't make it, but maybe you can just send me the money for the 
 drink I won't have?




Jim

	RE .296

	Sorry, I plan to use the money to tittilate 
Mz Debra with drinks  %^)

    
    I can DEFINITELY rearrange my calendar to be there.

    
    
    I'll go.  When is it again??  Ane where?
    
    
    
    :*)
    Terrie
    

    
    
    Teek snarf.  :*)
    

    
    Oh, Teeks is the clown of the Soapbox
    We've all enjoyed his show
    We'll all be rooting for him
    'Cause now he has to go!
    
    Take Care, Geoff!
    

                           You've heard the prophecy






                       You've seen his words (or loath)






                    You've wished he would JUST GO AWAY!!!






                            Come meet the MYTH!!!


	Friday, at 5:00 - ?, come meet the Teekmaster for one last time! (or if
you've been lucky your last time will have been your first as well!) Show up at
Amory's which is across from the old DEC clock tower!!!!!!  See the Teekster
make a fool out of himself with the babes! If you want a laugh, a tear as he
leaves (for joy of course), then come on down!!!!

    Re: Collins
    
    You stole that from Bugs Bunny!
    
    
    
    Teeks, best of luck to you wherever you go!!
    
    -Jack

    
    >You stole that from Bugs Bunny!
    
    Guilty as charged, Jack.  :^)
    

    So is there gonna be a party or no?
    

    Hahaha so now you know what I watch late at night!!!

    To all,
    
    I'm outta here, gone, moving on and all that jazz.  Actually, I left
    about a week a ago.  I received a call the last Friday of 1994 from 
    Union hall (Local 103, I.B.E.W) saying that I had a job and I started work 
    January 3,1995.  So I spent my last day packing and I didn't get a chance 
    to say goodbye.
    
    I had a blast in Soapboxland and I also received a education.  I learned
    alot people good and bad, but most of all I learned alot about myself. 
    I discovered that I had some things hidden in my heart, things that I
    didn't know where there.  At least now I can say that I'm in a better 
    position to deal with the issues of my heart.
    
    I would like to thank those of you who challenged my way of thinking and 
    those of you who exposed me to a different way of seeing things.  It's 
    been a growing experience, one that i'll remember for a long time.  
    
    
    To the Lady with the Reddish brown hair, :PpPpPpPpPp
    
    Teekema, smooches.
    
    To Smurfet, smooches.
    
    To the Man with the Big stick (Beretta), smooches.
    
    To the Prancing Lady, smooches.
    
    To Grandpa, smooches.
    
    To Gooey, didn't get to know you, smooches anyway.
    
    To Jim. H, smooches.
    
    To Mary, smooches
    
    To Covert. smooches
    
    Don't be offended if you didn't make my list, you probably didn't want
    to be on it anyway.
    
    Last words of advice:
    
    "Dont fake the funk, because the funk can't be faked"
    
    
    May you find a Peace that surpasses all understanding,
    
    Kimball Sean Scott
    

    Good luck and smooches to you Sean Kimball Scott!
    
    -b (the guy who still has the Beretta but not in his p-name)

    Bye!
    
    Chicken Teekema Masala

    
    See note 41.*

    
    
    
    Way to go on the IBEW job, Kimball.  I used to belong to local 26. 
    Should've stayed with it.......oh well.  Remember, watch your shorts.
    
    
    
    Mike

    
    
    I made his list!!!  I made his list!!!!  Right back
    at ya Scott Kimball!!! :*)  :*PPPppppppPPPppPPpPPppPppPPpPP
    
    
    
    
    XO
    Good luck!
    
    Terrie
    

    Like...later, dude.

	Good luck Kimball........Wish you well.

	We can new wear a Tee shirt that says:

	"I survived SoapBox"		%^)

	Anybody notice that Teeks departure and party are BOTH on Friday the
13th? Kind of scary, huh? (I mean Teeks)

    My birfday too.

    happy birfday bri!

	We knew that already. It stood out because of the chuckle we got when
you said you had a date... :-)

	Hey Glen, stop molesting those squirels.....%^)

	Friday the 13th suites me just fine, I am their
worst nightmare come true........heh heh heh....%^)

| <<< Note 41.324 by GMT1::TEEKEMA "Count down   5..4..3..2..." >>>


| Hey Glen, stop molesting those squirels.....%^)

	I don't know what you're talking about.... what's a squirel?

| Friday the 13th suites me just fine, 

	We ain't gettin you a suite pal! 

| I am their worst nightmare come true........heh heh heh....%^)

	You're EVERYONE'S worst nightmare...

>> You're EVERYONE'S worst nightmare...


	Why thank you Glen, flattery will get you everywhere....%^)

    re: .313
    
    Good luck, have fun, and may you live in interesting times.
    
    Mary-Michael

| <<< Note 41.326 by GMT1::TEEKEMA "Count down   5..4..3..2..." >>>



| Why thank you Glen, flattery will get you everywhere....%^)


	Seen it.... hated it.... laughed.... even fun house mirrors won't help
with that thing.... :-)

>> Seen it.... hated it.... laughed.... even fun house mirrors won't help
>> with that thing.... :-)

	You are so cruel Glen..............%^(

	At the time you were quite pleased.....%^)

	I am sure the Box Babes will be much more appreciative..%^)

| <<< Note 41.329 by GMT1::TEEKEMA "Count down   5..4..3..2..." >>>


| At the time you were quite pleased.....%^)

	Of course I was. Everyone needs a good laugh every now and then. 

| I am sure the Box Babes will be much more appreciative..%^)

	I think so too.... because the Babes need a good laugh too, and there
are more of them than me. 2 Babes laughing.... I can't wait!


Glen

    
    
    Anybody notice that Teek and ScottK came and went at the 
    same time??  Anyone else find this a bit odd??
    
    
    :*)
    Terrieble
    

    >Anybody notice that Teek and ScottK came and went at the 
    >same time??
    
    How do you mean that? :-) :-)
    
    -b

	Uh oh.........

Like Clark Kent and Superman...

    
    
    
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    
    
    Take it however you like.  :*)
    

    I believe it was actually Peter Cook with his multiple personalities.
    
    It could have been that idjit from England...what was his
    name...well...he was a moron whoever he was!  Had a long, unusual
    last name!!
    
    -Jack

>    It could have been that idjit from England...what was his
>    name...well...he was a moron whoever he was!  Had a long, unusual
>    last name!!
    
you mean like `Waite' or something?

Chris.

    AAAHHHHH Yes...Gary Waite!  No, he was just another idjit...but I was
    referring to somebody else...I think his name began with a W!

    WARBURTONG...THAT'S IT!!!!!!!

Thank goodness for that....  I thought you were going
to say "Windsor", as of the queen/prince/princess variety.

They can't help being idjits.  Inbreeding and all that,
don't you know.

There used to be several Warburton's working over here, although they
all seem to have disappeared...

Chris.

	Teek and I will be at Amory's around 4:30 or so. If anyone gets out
early, come on down! 


Glen

| <<< Note 41.342 by WELSWS::HEDLEY "Lager Lout" >>>



| There used to be several Warburton's working over here, although they
| all seem to have disappeared...

	Chris, they're in Giants stadium living with Jimmy Hoffa!

    
    
    You gonna get him drunk and take advantage of him Glen?
    

    
    
    	remember to take pictures!
    
    

    remember to drink pitchers ;-)

    
    
    Now, how do I get to this place again???  I'll be there by five if
    someone can tell me exactly where it is.
    
    
    
    Thanks,
    
    Terrie
    

| <<< Note 41.345 by GRANPA::MWANNEMACHER "Space for rent" >>>



| You gonna get him drunk and take advantage of him Glen?


	I'm gonna get sick......

	It's right across the street from the Mill Terrie. Right on rt 62.

	Deb, did you set your system clock alarm for 4:45???? 

    
    
    Ah, thank you so much O' inaccesable man of my dreams. :*)
    
    
    smoochie smoochie Glen.
    
    
    XO
    
    Terrie

	Top 10 reasons for NOT showing up at Teeks going away party!


#10	You don't like him

#9	You can't fit all of your personalities into one car

#8	IT'S TOE CLIPPING NIGHT! IT'S TOE CLIPPING NIGHT!

#7	I'm not feeling good. I have a little bit of a sore throat, I think it
	will lead to something, I'll be contageous.... (ie, the NICE way out)

#6	You heard even Madonna WOULDN'T think of going

#5	You're afraid that Teek will actually be Kimball

#4	Don't want to see the horror of the BABES actually LIKING him

#3	You're afraid he will trick you into owing him something, and then you
	HAVE to marry him for payment.

#2	Thinking he might actually breakdown and talk about politics


	and the number one response is.......




#1	After hearing about his party, you realize you need more Preperation H

	Only the Box Babes can get me drunk and take advantage of
me. Everyone else can take pictures.......%^)

    The only way they'd take advantage of you Teeks is if you
    held your wallet open. :-) :-) :-)
    
    -b

    
    Thank you for reminding me, Glen.  I just set it.

    
    
    I don't need an excuse.  I'm skipping my boss's weekly
    friday meeting at Scupper Jacks for this!  :*)
    
    
    
    Am I the only one looking *forward* to this party??  :*)
    
    
    T

	I'll keep it open in my pocket....%^) %^) %^)

>> Am I the only one looking *forward* to this party??  :*)

	God forbid Terrie they find out I am not such a bad guy...%^)

    I'm looking forward to it too Terrie! :-)

	The best reason to come to the party is see the
Box Babes........[smooches].....%^)

    
    
    RE: -b   Did we meet at the last bash, or will I actually be 
    meating a new 'boxer tonight??
    
    
    :*)
    Terrie
    

    Nope. I'm an (official) bash virgin... :-)
    
    -b

| <<< Note 41.353 by GMT1::TEEKEMA "Count down   5..4..3..2..1..Out o' here." >>>


| Only the Box Babes can get me drunk and take advantage of me. 

	I suppose that's ONE method of sobering them up. But why would you want
to be so cruel?

    
    
    So, how will we know you -b??  What's your full name?  What do you
    look like?
    
    
    
    Inquiring minds and all that....
    
    
    Terrie
    

| <<< Note 41.358 by GMT1::TEEKEMA "Count down   5..4..3..2..1..Out o' here." >>>


| God forbid Terrie they find out I am not such a bad guy...%^)


	No need to worry about impossibilities like that....

| <<< Note 41.362 by MPGS::MARKEY "Hoist the Jolly Roger!" >>>

| Nope. I'm an (official) bash virgin... :-)

	Did someone say virgin???? heeehh hheeehhh heeehh heeeh...

>Note 41.361                         Good Bye                          361 of 365
>NETCAD::WOODFORD "I think I'll stop Counting Now...." 9 lines  13-JAN-1995 15:43
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    
>    
>    RE: -b   Did we meet at the last bash, or will I actually be 
>    meating a new 'boxer tonight??
>    ^^^^^^^
>    
>    :*)
>    Terrie
    
    
    
    I think that's what HE'S supposed to say, ter...!
 

    I'll be the scariest looking person there! :-) :-)
    
    Full name: Brian Donald Markey
    Wardrobe:  Various shades of Black, ear rings
    Turn ons:  LCoWMR
    Turn offs: Being all alone in a LCoWMR
    Sign:      Dip in road
    
    :-)
    
    -b
   

	Well this is my LAST note here.

	I truly wish you all good luck and hope the future
gets better. Keep the faith and don't ever let them get you
down.

	It has been an interesting time for me here at DEC
from which I have learned a lot which will help me as I 
move forward.

	Good bye and god speed.	......

    Watch your butt teeks!
    
    So long!
    
    8^)

    >Well this is my LAST note here.
    
    <applause>

    
    Is he gone yet?
    

	we're out of here!!! 

    Oh no, Glen, not you too?!?
    
    Glenn/Deirdre/Pamela/Franny/Ned/Dierdre/Anton/Sean/Alice/Jimi/Pauline/Rex/
    Nathan/Melanie/Ursula/Hildegard
    
    
    
    
    

 Phew...is he gone?

    
    Yes

 Well, then...where were we?

    See ya'all at the bash! Outta here...
    
    -b

    Terrie, 
    
    I would have Loved to see your Reddish Brown hair in person :-)
    
    Out of everyone that I rubbed wrong, you were my only regret :-)
    
    It's good to see that your not a "Old Soapbox Fart Grudge Holder."
    
    I want to leave you with a gift:
    
    <Hug> <Squeeze> <Smooches>
    
    Best of Luck.                                         
    
    

	Ok, this proves that Teek and Kimball are not the same person. At 5:11
on the 13th, Teek was with me at Amory's, havin a brew! 


Glen

    He could have set the message to be sent later....

	Brian, he isn't bright enough to do that.... :-)

    
    I'ma gone 27-jan-1995 after sixteen years and 6 months.
    
    'twas fun but: Capt bob or his staff don't need WFO no more.
    
    
    
    stoney

    So long Stoney....best of luck to you!
    
    -Jack

    Today I gave notice to Digital that I'll be leaving in 2 weeks.  After
    suffering through 2+ years without a payraise, I'll be starting March
    1st with an $8K pay increase.

    
    Best of luck to you Ron!!!!!! What company pray tell?? Or can't you
    say.
    
    mark

    
    The brain-drain continues...
    
    All the best, Ron.
    

    Yes Ron, all the best indeed.  Good luck in your new venture.  
    
    Brian

    re: .386
    
    Jeez, maybe I shoulda figured out where you were going!  I'm gone as of
    next Monday, and with only a 6+K raise!
    
    Nearly 9 years here, all of it in the 'box. But I stayed too long at
    the party, and I don't see much left but stale butts and flat champagne.
    
    I've enjoyed the vitality of Soapbox. I think the kind of "virtual
    community" created by this form of technology can be fun and
    enlightening.  
    
    But I can never land completely on one side, so I must also say that I
    find this kind of virtual community a bit ominous to the extent that it
    replaces real community, community with the real human interaction, the
    need for compromise, the dirty day-to-day work of living *in* life, and
    instead encourages our tendency to flit across the surface, dropping a
    few bombs or bon mots and then surfing off in search of the next rush.
    
    That said, I'll miss you all, and wish you good luck.
    
    Kit 
    
    

    Kit:
    
    You made the box very interesting at times.  We usually didn't see eye
    to eye on some things but that's what makes the world an interesting
    place.
    
    I wish you the best in your future endeavors!
    
    Rgds.,
    
    -Jack

    
    Ooohhhh, man...Kit TOO?  This is shaping up to be a BAD DAY!
    
    "virtual community"   ...love it!  :^)
    

	So we have lost Kit as well..... we need a new car people!!! :-)   Good
luck Kit! 


Glen

    
    
    Take care, Kit.  The best in your new position.  Of course we didn't
    agree much, but heck, I've learned some things.  
    
    
    As for Ron leaving and the brain drain continuing.......well, I don't
    know about that. :')
    
    
    Mike

    Ron:
    
    I wish you the very best.  Take care of yourself buddy!
    
    -Jack

    wafflefartz, you'll be sorely missed - wannamonkey is prolly gonna go
    into withdrawal.
    
    kit, you'll be missed, too.
    
    and this started out to be a pretty good monday, too...  just goes to
    show you how fast a day can turn to stercus.

    
    Best of luck to you Kit in your new job.
    
    Mark

    Thanks to all of you for the nice words and congrats...it'll be tough
    having withdrawal from the 'Box, but I recently joined Prodigy so I'll
    still be accessible.
    
    And Mikey, for your comment, I just tore up your resume'!
    
    :-))

    Nice knowing you guys. Hope it all works out for you.

some guy I used to work with recently left, being p'd off after more than
3 years without a rise, and immediately got #11000 ($16000?) more money.  I
must be a mug to still be here!

Chris.

Best wishes to you both.

Ron, did your new employer make the offer based on
the cuddle-ability recommendation of your daughter?

    Good luck Ron and Kit...hope your new jobs work out well (and with
    the pay raises mentioned, it can't be ALL bad, eh?  8^) ).  
    
    -steve

    
    Wow 8^/.
    
    Best of luck to both of you.

| <<< Note 41.400 by COSME3::HEDLEYC "Lager Lout" >>>



| some guy I used to work with recently left, being p'd off after more than
| 3 years without a rise, 


	Chris, unless he is working the streets, I don't think work is the
place one should go for a rise..... :-)

depends what turns you on, really... :)  (I often worry about people who
refer to clever bits of software as `sexy' :/  )

Chris.

	Wow.... to marry a piece of software.... how boring that would be... :-)

    .401
    
    I'm sure the cuddle-ability factor weighed heavily in my favor! :-)

    Take care Ron... Best of luck and best wishes.
    
    Chip

    
    Ron,
    
    Tried to call you last week. 
    Good luck, you made the right decision.
    Yep and I already know where u is going. And promise not to tell.
    
    Dave
    
    

    helluva bad day when two such luminaries cybersnuff it.  Best of luck
    guys -- you'll be missed!
    
    |-{:-(
    
    

    dr dan:
    
    i'll be cybersurfing on the net and will stay in touch...may the force
    be with you!
    
    
    Fortius

    
    
    good luck, ron...and enjoy the new adventure....
    

    Good luck, Ron, good luck, Kit.
    
    Heiko

    
    good luck, waffleman.

    best wishes Ron.

    Good luck Ron and Kit! It's been nice noting with you. And Kit, don't
    feel so glum about only getting a $6K raise... last time I got a $6K
    raise it was going from unemployed! :-) :-)
    
    -b

    Thanks for all the well-wishes...as Confuscous says, "If you cab't bank
    on it, don't"  ;-)

	yeah, he was never particularly good with English.  ;>

    Well, I'm leaving here in about 10 minutes...for further information,
    please contact my best buddy, Mike Wannemacher, tommorrow.

    Best of luck Ron!!
    
    -b

	Good luck Ron. Believe it or not, I'll miss ya!


Glen

    Breast of duck son.

    magret de canard sounds so much better. ;-)

    Have you got any?

    
    The Yangtze River Restaurant in Littleton makes a great Peking Duck.

    
    ...he asked, expecting the answer `no'.
    

    Is that anything like Beijing Duck?

| <<< Note 41.425 by POWDML::LAUER "Little Chamber of Fuzzy Faces" >>>


| The Yangtze River Restaurant in Littleton makes a great Peking Duck.

	Deb, is it somehow cheaper to test tube the little ducks than to let
them be made by two ducks passing in the night?

    RE: Peking Duck
    
    Try it at Chef Cheng's in Brookline and then let me know if you
    think the Yankme's attempt at it is really that good.
    
    -b (who thinks the Yangtze River must be salt water given the
       amount they put in all their food! Major YUCK!!!!)

    
    .427
    
    Praps.
    
    .428
    
    I don't know
    
    .429
    
    Let me know when you're taking me 8^).

    
    Hi Fuzz face :-)

    We'll talk tonight! :-)
    
    -b

| <<< Note 41.431 by POBOX::BATTIS "Contract Studmuffin" >>>


| Hi Fuzz face :-)

	Did covert Right in here???

    
    rathole alert!!!!!!

Boxers...
	Today is the last day of my contract.  I'm out of here!  Reading
	here has been entertaining, agravating and occasionally enlightening.
	I'll miss the 'box.
Have a GREAT day!
Pete

    Peter:
    
    I wish you the very best.  Don't worry...sometimes these limo libs can
    be aggravating.  I agree with you 100%.
    
    Best Wishes,
    
    -Jack

Jack,
	My next contract is at a nice conservative company.  It's gonna be
	a nice change. 8^)
--Pete

    prolly not.

    
    Cheers, Pete.

    Thanks, all, for the kind goodbyes.  I'll be gone in a few hours.
    
    Regards, 
    
    Kit

 Good luck!

    Happy spankings!
    
    ;-)

    Hi folks,
    
    	This is my first and last entry in this illustrious and erudite
    conference.  ( famous and smart too )
    
    	Eleven years have gone by, but it seems like twelve.  Anyway, it's
    been my pleasure over the last few years to work with Glenn, Deirdre,
    Pamela, Franny, Ned, Dierdre, Anton, Sean, Alice, Jimi, Pauline, Rex,
    Nathan, Melanie, Ursula, Hildegard, Nigel, and second to last but most
    definitely not second to least, Boutros Boutros and reluctantly Leslie.
    
    	Just in case anyone is curious, I also have multiple personalities.
    Their names are: Scott, Malcolm, George, Jennifer, Lois, Perry (gay) ,
    Rod, Fern, Noonian, Thomas, Glen, Glenn, and Sammy.  So far we've been
    able to keep Leslie and Perry separated. Fortunately. ( I think Leslie
    wants to give Perry a pearl necklace. )
    
    	Anyway, as of tomorrow I am a civilian for a few weeks. I am
    looking forward to both replenishing and depleting my moderate sized
    chamber of perdition.
    
    There's still more.
    
    	If there is one thing I have learned over the past decade, it is
    that there is something sexy about a woman who can quote Monty Python
    sketches.
    
    	Goodbye and may random chance operate in your favour.
    
    					
          		Engines engaged. Helm answering. Leaving orbit....
    

    

    I am not a woman! Most of the time. Nice to see you think I'm sexy
    though. 8^)
    
    This is truly a sad day.

	My hovercraft is full of eels.

    Well, I suppose you could be right.

    
    Goodbye, and would you like to go my place and bouncy bouncy?
    
    -b

Mods!  .447 is blatant solicitation!

    Not only that, he's asking for it!
    
    8-o

    Yeah all right.
    

    
    Yes!  Yes, you must give us all a good spanking!  And after the spanking, 
    the oral sex!

    re .448,
    
    If he isn't offering money, does that still make it solicitation?
    
    

    Depends if he's a European or American prostitute.

    Are you all virgins between the ages of 20 and 50 years old ????
    

    
    Oh, it is a lonely life, bathing, dressing, undressing, knitting 
    exciting underwear...
    

    
    We do have Glenn Richardson, who's getting pretty close to being
    six score blondes and brunettes.
    

    
    I believe all of the Glenns are blond(e)s.

    jes.

    
    I'm brunette though if you need one to balance things out 8^).

    jes jou hwould do yus fine.

    .454
    Yes...!
    

Well it's my last day.

It's only been a short while as a participant in this file but it seems
like I have known you for years.

Good luck in the future!

	Cheers
	Allan

$ run DEBCHECKER

    
    $ run Mz_DebChecker or what ?

    
    
    Hey, no spelling errors!
    
    Aren't you glad you met me 8^)?

    Just for the record, Allan Mcgregor is not muscular like me.
    
    - Scott
    

    Oh oh.  They're coming to take me away, ha ha.
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| <<< Note 41.443 by POLAR::CAMPBELL "Little Chamber of Transition" >>>



| Engines engaged. Helm answering. Leaving orbit....


	Jessie Helms answers to you????

    
    The loss of another Little Chamber aficionado fills me with sadness
    8^(.

    Well, my two co-workers, one who is a very close friend, are gone. 8-(

    It is only that fact of my genetically engineered intellect that has
    allowed me to survive.
    
    Glenn

Glenn, if/when you leave, how will that affect headcount?

    
    And not only that, you wuz born smart 8^).
    
    
    
    I rather think it's because your manager gets 19 persons' worth of work
    for one salary 8^).                                      

    >> It is only that fact of my genetically engineered intellect that has
    >> allowed me to survive.
    
    Thank you, Khan...
    
    Chris

    So I'm all alone on Seti Alpha 5.

So, was it just a co-inky-dink that all of the Canadian Scots left at the
same time?

	Who are you kidding.... YOU can NEVER be alone! You're a group wherever
you go!

    Jack I'm last survivor of the Scottish enclave.

    
    
    re:.443....4th paragraph(I think)
    
    
    I know what that is!!!!  hehehe :*)
    
    
    Best of luck Mr/Ms. Campbell
    
    
    Terrie
    

    
    <----make that 3rd paragraph.....
    
    
    
    :*)
    

    8-o

    Just shy of 15 years on the farm, and it's time to bid farewell to
    Mother DEC.  I submitted my resignation this week; March 17th will
    be my last day.
    
    Now all I hafta do is figure out how folks function out thar in the
    outside world.  Hmmmmm...............  maybe I *am* crazy.
    
    Joanne
      

    
    Oh, JoJo! 8^(
    
    I smell party.

    Good luck and best wishes Jo...
    
    Chip

    
    
    	JoJo, don't leave me!!!!!! :)
    
    
    	Good luck out there in the cruel world.....it's got to be nicer
    than in here....;*)
    
    
    jim

    
    
    Here's wishing you the best, Joanne.  You will be missed here in the
    box.
    
    
    Mike

    aw, jo jo!  well, just keep running those baths and you should be fine.
    good luck.

    DON'T GO JOJO!
    DON'T GO JOJO!
    DON'T GO JOJO!
    DON'T GO JOJO!
    DON'T GO JOJO!
    DON'T GO JOJO!
    DON'T GO JOJO!
    DON'T GO JOJO!
    
    All this leaving stuff is really bumming us out, JoJo you're probably
    going to be responsible for yet another personality.
    
    Glenn/Deirdre/Pamela/Franny/Ned/Dierdre/Anton/Sean/Alice/Jimi/Pauline/Rex/
    Nathan/Melanie/Ursula/Hildegard/Nigel/Boutros Boutros/Leslie/?
    

    
    No no Jo Jo don't don't go go!
    

    
    Good luck alleged fishing widow!!! You will be missed.
    
    Mark

	Joanne, BUMMMMMMMMMMMMERRRRR!!!!!  But I guess if you had to go, March
17th is a good day for it. I mean, to party on St Pattys day is one thing, but
now we can change the name and party on St. JoJo's day! 

    Goodbye Joanne and Gods best!
    
    -Jack

    God's

    depends upon what side of the multi-theistic fence you are on.  

    
    Bye Jo Jo and good luck. There, that was nice and calm.
    
    
    
    	NO!!! You can't go. If you go I'll whine and hang
    	on your leg like one of those little dogs that
    	seems to reproduce only with human legs. I'll
    	get kah kah kah Ken to kah kah kak Kill you. I'll
    	hold a seance and convince your Grandmothers to
    	beam messages to you! I won't stand for it!!!
    
    	:-) :-)
    
    -b

    Errrrr...uuhhhh....sorry

    Try what you will, Markey, but the seances won't work.
    I'm wearing a lead-lined wig and earmuffs.
    
    

    
    rats.

    Jo,
    
    Best wishes; I envy you.  I'll definitely miss your notes in 'da box;
    some of the funniest I've ever read.
    
    

    Bye, Jo. Wish I'd met you; you seem to have lots of personality. Best
    of luck, wherever it is you are going.

 Best of luck, Joanne..enjoyed your noting in here..




 Jim HenDERson

    
    Jim, aren't you related to that muppet guy?
    
    Mark

    Adios Jojo.  Hasta laplaya.  Buena Suerte! 
    
    Brian

    Bye.

    JO, 
    
    enjoy, enjoy, enjoy
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    and after that have fun.
    
    
    joan
    

	jojo, i've really enjoyed your sense of humor.
	
	take care,
	jay j

        Go away, you snotty nosed heap of parrot droppings!
        
        luv
        
        &y
        

	Fraser, it's people like you wot cause unrest.

	(*This*, I'll miss.  The rest?  Nah.)

    	Well, I haven't been reading the 'box long, but I guess I will
    still have to enter a goodbye soon. We had a V.P. here at Augusta today
    to give a speach wich consisted of 5 minutes of how inpressed with our
    plant he was and 10 minutes of why they just sold us anyway. Then we
    got to meet with our new owner. I thought Lincon put a stop to this
    stuff.
    
    
    								S.R.

    Guess he was impressed becuz yer so good he got a good price for your
    labours...  'Twuz nice to meetcha.  Enjoy your last 'BoxDaze.
    

    Bye.

    re: Steve-
    
     It wasn't a Networks decision to sell ASO; it came down from the
    mount. 

    Take care of yourself!!
    
    -Jack

	Wow..... a Mainer going by the seaside.... when will be stop
downsizing? Good luck!


Glen

    bye.

    	Re .512
    
    	I thought we were safe because we were making a profit. Show's how 
    little I know about buisness.
    
    							S.R.

     You guys were an asset to the corporation. Problem is, we still have
    excess mfg capacity. Hence the sale.

    More plants will be going, probably TAO and ZGO next.

<----------   Glenn, is one of your personalities a seer?

    Well, er, um, could be.

    	I heard rumors that Digital doesn't want to manufactuter anything,
    anymore, just pay others to build it an slap they're name on it. Anyone
    know if this is indeed the ultimate strategy?
    
    	
    								S.R.

    It wouldn't surprise me. I just wonder if they'll do it.

    Outsourcing manufacturing is what turned the big 3 auto makers around.

    
    
    	lots of equity investors taking a look at FAB4 and FAB6 in Hudson.
    I hear ANALOG is looking at FAB4.
    
    
    jim

These aren't the new ones we just built, are they?

	Yes, Fab6 is the brand-new one, Jack.

    
    
    	Yup, all $800mil worth....
    
    

    Well, if Digital is going to sell its chip making outfits, then I'd say
    everything is being evaluated.

    Hmmmmm.

	Yep, brand-spanking new, even the part we couldn't
	complete 'cuz we ran out of $$$.  Ooops!

	And it's home to the incomparable Jim Sadin!

    
    
    	<bow> thank you. :)
    
    	My $1.5mil polisher and myself are doing just fine in here.  ;*)
    
    
    jim (who helped design the layout of the FAB machines and furniture)
    

    
    CMP :== Chemical Mechanical Punishment
    
    Lisa/ ex-CMOS5

    
    re: .530
    
    	I am NOT a grinder! :*) Polisher sounds so much nicer doesn't it?
    It just kindof flows off the tongue....;*)
    
    	Lisa, are you going to swing over to FAB6 to help us get CMOS5 up
    to snuff over here?
    
    jim

So, where are we going to make the next generations of high MHz
Alpha chips in high yeild? Or are we going to "buy" this service
from someone else's quality standards?

    
    
    	FAB6 will make the next generations of high MHz Alpha chips. If we
    build out the undeveloped part of 6.3 (fab6 6.1 and 6.2 sections are
    built up...6.3 is for expansion), we can ramp up to 6000 wafers starts
    per week (supposedly).
    
    	Current Alpha we're working on will run at 330MHz....the newer
    stuff that were just getting into will run at 500+MHz...!
    
    
    jim

    Yup, Fab6 has empty space at the moment.
    
    As for fixing CMOS5, I'm afraid I'll have to pass.  Four years of RTP
    work has soured me on the concept.  Someone else can do the fixing,
    I'll tell them how good of a job they did.
    
    Lisa "Your etch residue contains fluorine" G.

    
    
    re .534
    
    	Rapid Thermal Processing eh? I can see where the AG's would sour
    anyones stomach after a while. ;*)
    
    
    jim "Feric Nitrate slurry looks like Tang(tm)" S.
    
    

        RE:533

   > 	FAB6 will make the next generations of high MHz Alpha chips. If we
   > build out the undeveloped part of 6.3 (fab6 6.1 and 6.2 sections are
   > built up...6.3 is for expansion), we can ramp up to 6000 wafers starts
   > per week (supposedly).

    	A full 50% of the fab6 building is empty.  Right now 6.1s, 6.1n and
    6.2n are fitted out and attempting to operate while 6.2s and 6.3 n&s
    are still empty.  According to the prints, plans and wish lists that the
    general population was privileged to see the maximum wafer start for
    the entire building once all the space is fitted out and the different 
    tools are up and running is 4300 to 4500.

    Joe
    

    
    
    re: .536
    
    	I was given the 6000 figure by a couple of managers who've I've
    discussed the possibility of equity partners with. Yer right that it's
    a loooooooooooong way off....if it ever happens.
    
    
    jim

	Oh, yeah..... goodbye!

	This has been A LOT of fun as well as very informative
	and has led to some really wonderful friendships.

	To say I will miss the 'box is a great understatement.

	Be cool, have fun!

	Peace!
	Pat

>> <<< Note 41.538 by WECARE::BOURGOINE >>>


	Oh, yeah   - hey, Wannahunny......if Lisa ever gets tired of
	you......and you want to move north.......

	See 'ya

	Pat

    So long Pat! And good luck!
    
    
    This goodbye stuff is really getting to me.....

    farewell, pat.  'twas good, if only brief, to know you.

    
    Bye Pat :-(  
    Glad i was able to meet you in person in October.
    
    Mark

    
    
    man o man...this really sucks...
    
    both pat and jojo in the same week...
    
    where are my tissues (lord knows i have plenty of them these days)
    
    you will both be missed most terribly...if'n ya are ever in the
    neighborhood, look me up...
    
    
    -raq
    
    %,^<
    
    

{ahem, ahem, mi-mi-mi-mi-mi}

Well folks, the time has come.  This has been the 5,349th, and last,
day of my career at Digital.  There've been some exceptionally good times
here, and, most importantly, I've had the chance to meet and become
friends with some fine people.  

The 'box has been a great time.  Who knew there were so many witty, bright, 
outspoken people hiding at Mother DEC?  I'll miss you folks; you've made
my otherwise so-so days lively.

I'll stay in touch; please do the same.  (My Compuserve address will
be forthcoming in a separate message.)  If I can dovetail my schedule
with my son's birthday party commitments, I'll meet up with some of you
in Sudbury next weekend.  (I can't miss seeing Mz_Deb, now that I've heard
how flattering her costume is!)  'tine, I'll start sorting thru my
embroidery kits and decide what to bring on the 15th.  And I'll keep a
day in May open for that Wannemacher chap.

Glen, I'll try to keep bringing you the Good Humors.  Glenn, watch out for
Shareena -- I think she's trouble.  &y, keep me posted on the path to
intergalactic success.  Mr. Delbalso, I'll be sending you a sports almanac
so you can keep track of all those ballplayers.  Markey, I'll see you
in Burma.  Mr. Binder, I'll be in touch whenever I need an answer to one
of life's mysteries.  Terrie, Nancy, Raq -- stay as sweet as you are.
Di, you're a spectacular person -- and not just because we were raised in
the same fine environment!  Jim Henderson, I'll think of you whenever I'm
in the bathroom with my cat.  Jim Sadin, take good care of Fab6 and spend
my former salary wisely.

Anyone I didn't catch by name, forgive me.  I'm suddenly realizing how
many people I've gotten to know, and my brain hurts!

Be good to yourselves, and take care.

All the best,
Joanne  (Mr. Jensen's fishing wiDow)
    

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    <sniffle-sniffle>  Thanks Joanne, as if I haven't gone through enough
    tissues this week....
    
    
    Seriously, good luck to you.  I'm very sorry I did not get to meet you
    last night.  Take care of yourself!!!!
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

    
    {{{sniff}}}.....bye JoJo.
    

  Good Luck,
  George

| <<< Note 41.545 by SUBPAC::JJENSEN "This is an ex-Digit!" >>>


	Joanne, two things you said had me rolling on the floor!


 Mr. Binder, I'll be in touch whenever I need an answer to one of life's 
 mysteries.  

 Jim Henderson, I'll think of you whenever I'm in the bathroom with my cat.  



	I'm glad to see your humor will live on in here!!! See ya Tuesday!

 Get back Jo Jo!



 Good luck! Great to meet you last night!




 Jim

 another excellent sense of
 humor vanishes.

 be good, jojo.  i'll see you around town. ;>
 diane

    
    Breast of Duck Jo Jo !!!
    

    bollox

    pollocks

    
    
    So long JoJo.  The Digital/Soapbox family gets smaller and smaller.
    
    
    sigh...........

    dreadlocks

    gridlocks
    

    Hamhocks

    poppycocks
    

    geeseflocks
    
    

    
    
    fleece pocks
    

    loud socks

| <<< Note 41.561 by GRANPA::MWANNEMACHER "NRA member in good standing" >>>

| geeseflocks


	Mr Wannamonkey, I would strongly suggest that you stop referring to my
family gatherings as such. The Portugese family line is a strong and proud one.
I will not have you make fun of it. Got that!!!!?????



Glen

    shamrocks

    
    goldielocks
    

    
    
    RE: .564  So Gwen......whaddaya gonna hit me with your purse?
    
    

I'm really gonna hate it next time I update the Graveyard . . . 

    Quite an undertaking to be sure.