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766.1 | no surprise here | SMURF::WALTERS | | Tue Jul 30 1996 12:32 | 8 |
| If I recall correctly, the first governer of NH emigrated here from
Wales. He was a strict Puritan, but the sect never really caught on in
Wales because of its extreme intolerance and attempts to impose the
English speaking church on the people by similar laws. Goes
against the traditional historical view of the Puritans as seekers of
religious freedom.
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766.2 | | ACISS1::BATTIS | Future Chevy Blazer owner | Tue Jul 30 1996 12:38 | 2 |
|
<----- sounds like Lucky Jack's kinds guy.
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766.3 | | MKOTS3::JMARTIN | Madison...5'2'' 95 lbs. | Tue Jul 30 1996 14:07 | 7 |
| Z competent understanding, shall smite, or curse their natural
Z father or mother; He or they shal be put to death: unless it
Z can be sufficiently testified, that the Parents have bin very
Z unchristianly negligent in the education of such Children;
Which means that every child in the public school system can smite
their parents!
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766.4 | | RUSURE::GOODWIN | Sacred Cows Make the Best Hamburger | Tue Jul 30 1996 14:09 | 4 |
| Political power was largely in the hands of religious leaders back in
those days. Today it is largely in the hands of political leaders.
Nothing changes but the words.
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766.5 | | POLAR::RICHARDSON | Perpetual Glenn | Tue Jul 30 1996 14:21 | 2 |
| "So you think that hangman is being catty?
You shouldn't have cursed your mom and daddy!"
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766.6 | | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Tue Jul 30 1996 14:24 | 18 |
| >Goes against the traditional historical view of the Puritans as seekers of
>religious freedom.
Depends on what you mean.
The Puritans in England had the intention of enforcing their particular beliefs
and modes of worship on the Church of England. They were not being very
successful in this endeavor, and some of them came to the United States in
order to be free to establish their own religion here.
The Puritans did briefly succeed in England. They won the English Civil War
and put St. Charles, King and Martyr, to death. Their "Glorious" Commonwealth
lasted all of eleven years, during which time the monarchy, the House of Lords,
the Book of Common Prayer, and the bishops were banned. At the Restoration in
1660, the monarchy, the Lords, and the Church of England (including bishops)
were restored.
/john
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766.7 | | SMURF::WALTERS | | Tue Jul 30 1996 14:39 | 9 |
|
That may be true of England, but it was different in Wales, which never
really accepted the English church. Attempts at another new world
colony during this time were made by Welsh emigrants - perhaps trying to
escape Puritan oppression under the Propagation Act. An ill-fated colony
was established at Avalonia in Newfoundland in 1625. Later, there were
mass emigrations of Welsh Quakers who emigrated to Penn due to long-standing
differences with the Puritan sect over opression at home. It's an
interesting sideline to the other historical events at this time.
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766.8 | | LANDO::OLIVER_B | it's about summer! | Tue Jul 30 1996 14:43 | 7 |
| /The Puritans in England had the intention of enforcing their particular
/beliefs and modes of worship on the Church of England. They were not being
/very successful in this endeavor, and some of them came to the United States
/in order to be free to establish their own religion here.
in other words, the cancer spread.
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766.9 | | WAHOO::LEVESQUE | inhale to the chief | Tue Jul 30 1996 14:48 | 1 |
| That's a thoughtful way to put it.
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766.10 | | PENUTS::DDESMAISONS | person B | Tue Jul 30 1996 14:52 | 2 |
|
Ophish.
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766.11 | | LANDO::OLIVER_B | it's about summer! | Tue Jul 30 1996 14:53 | 1 |
| .9 thank you. say, i like your thoughtful p-name.
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766.12 | | WAHOO::LEVESQUE | inhale to the chief | Tue Jul 30 1996 14:59 | 1 |
| I changed it just for you.
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766.13 | | RUSURE::GOODWIN | Sacred Cows Make the Best Hamburger | Tue Jul 30 1996 15:11 | 3 |
| >inhale to the chief
I don't know what you're toking about
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766.14 | you dunno what I'm reefering to? | WAHOO::LEVESQUE | inhale to the chief | Tue Jul 30 1996 15:12 | 1 |
| <snicker>
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766.15 | calling the pot green | HBAHBA::HAAS | more madness, less horror | Tue Jul 30 1996 15:12 | 1 |
| Smoke, smoke, smoke that reeferette...
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766.16 | | LANDO::OLIVER_B | it's about summer! | Tue Jul 30 1996 15:16 | 1 |
| smoking causes cancer, doncha know?
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766.17 | | RUSURE::GOODWIN | Sacred Cows Make the Best Hamburger | Tue Jul 30 1996 15:16 | 1 |
| Living causes death.
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766.18 | | BUSY::SLAB | Don't get even ... get odd!! | Tue Jul 30 1996 15:18 | 3 |
|
Ban living!!
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766.19 | ban death | HBAHBA::HAAS | more madness, less horror | Tue Jul 30 1996 15:19 | 0 |
766.21 | | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Tue Jul 30 1996 15:20 | 21 |
766.22 | | LANDO::OLIVER_B | it's about summer! | Tue Jul 30 1996 15:21 | 1 |
| .18 that's what the puritans wanted to do.
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766.23 | | RUSURE::GOODWIN | Sacred Cows Make the Best Hamburger | Tue Jul 30 1996 15:22 | 7 |
| >ban living
It seems the early inhabitants of NH were on their way there...
I wonder exactly when the prevailing sentiment changed to "Live free or
die". In fact I wonder if that even IS the prevailing sentiment in NH
or anywhere else in the US.
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766.24 | | MKOTS3::JMARTIN | Madison...5'2'' 95 lbs. | Tue Jul 30 1996 15:34 | 3 |
| ZZ I don't know what you're toking about
You stop toking nonsense....YOU ARE JUST A POOR TAYLOR!!!!!
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766.25 | | POWDML::HANGGELI | Will Work For Latte | Tue Jul 30 1996 15:36 | 3 |
|
Even a poor tailor is entitled to some happiness.
^
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766.26 | | RUSURE::GOODWIN | Sacred Cows Make the Best Hamburger | Tue Jul 30 1996 15:40 | 1 |
| Happy happy happy happy happy just the way I am.
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766.27 | | SCASS1::BARBER_A | please pass the dirt | Tue Jul 30 1996 15:47 | 1 |
| Doctah! 8O
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766.28 | | ACISS1::BATTIS | Future Chevy Blazer owner | Tue Jul 30 1996 16:41 | 3 |
|
as a republican, even I'm getting tired of all the Clinton bashing.
Enough! have your say in november.
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766.29 | | RUSURE::GOODWIN | Sacred Cows Make the Best Hamburger | Tue Jul 30 1996 16:59 | 8 |
| I agree. Too much mindless President bashing by people of the opposite
party, whatever it is.
I didn't vote for Clinton, but the only things he has done that
disappointed me are:
A. Canning Joycelyn Elders
B. Not standing up for gay rights
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766.30 | form? | HBAHBA::HAAS | more madness, less horror | Tue Jul 30 1996 17:00 | 3 |
| > A. Canning Joycelyn Elders
Do you prefer bottling?
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766.31 | | RUSURE::GOODWIN | Sacred Cows Make the Best Hamburger | Tue Jul 30 1996 17:01 | 3 |
| >Do you prefer bottling?
Only for carbonated paper.
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766.32 | | POLAR::RICHARDSON | Perpetual Glenn | Tue Jul 30 1996 17:03 | 1 |
| a jarring thought....
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766.33 | can't help it | GAAS::BRAUCHER | Welcome to Paradise | Tue Jul 30 1996 17:03 | 9 |
|
I dunno. Bashing Clinton is easy and fun. I won't stop for
20 years. Since he hasn't done anything much, I agree that the
list of bad things he has done is short. In the long run, he is
mostly just another forgettable prex (quick, who was between Polk
and Fillmore ?) But his many gaffs, denials, shamefaced admissions
are the stuff of true humor. Who better to bash ? That's the job.
bb
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766.34 | | LANDO::OLIVER_B | it's about summer! | Tue Jul 30 1996 17:05 | 1 |
| and besides, bob dole is just too durn pathetic to bash!
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766.35 | | PENUTS::DDESMAISONS | person B | Tue Jul 30 1996 17:06 | 3 |
|
You know it. I know it. And the American people know it.
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766.36 | big bashee | HBAHBA::HAAS | more madness, less horror | Tue Jul 30 1996 17:07 | 8 |
| >Who better to bash ?
Ya gotta point there, bb.
He does provide all sortsa material. Bush din't couldn't cut it but Slick
is certainly in ol' Ronnie Raygun league.
TTom
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766.37 | | LANDO::OLIVER_B | it's about summer! | Tue Jul 30 1996 17:09 | 2 |
| i'll lead america into the future. and tomorrow. and the day
after that.
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766.38 | | MKOTS3::JMARTIN | Madison...5'2'' 95 lbs. | Tue Jul 30 1996 17:51 | 14 |
| ZZ A. Canning Joycelyn Elders
ZZ B. Not standing up for gay rights
I don't sympathize as far as Jocelyn goes. Bill Clinton could have
picked a PR competent individual with the same outlook on issues, like
legalizing drugs. Problem here is Elders was an Arkansas hack who
unfortunately is known for passing out thousands of defective condoms
to the Arkansas public school system. In short, she was an inept boob!
You shouldn't be mad at Clinton for his laxness on gay rights. You
should be mad for his lack of forsight. The man picked this as his
first plan of action. He had the military against him, the Joint
Chiefs against him, and a good segment of the population. What a
boneheaded thing to address his first week in office. STUUPID!
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766.39 | | LANDO::OLIVER_B | it's about summer! | Tue Jul 30 1996 17:58 | 9 |
| .38
|Problem here is Elders was an Arkansas hack who
|unfortunately is known for passing out thousands of defective
|condoms to the Arkansas public school system.
jack, if everyone lied like you do, the world would be
far more worse than it is.
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766.40 | a Clinton accomplishment | GAAS::BRAUCHER | Welcome to Paradise | Tue Jul 30 1996 17:59 | 9 |
|
Speaking of loose cannon Elders, has anybody noticed just how
little the country has missed having a Surgeon General ? One
of the neat things about deadlock is that many government
do-nothing sinecures go vacant for a while because the Senate
confirmation process breaks down. This has the added benefit
that the Senate is therefore too busy to pass legislation.
bb
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766.41 | | RUSURE::GOODWIN | Sacred Cows Make the Best Hamburger | Tue Jul 30 1996 18:20 | 9 |
| Elders personally oversaw the distribution to Arkansas schools of
defective condoms, because of some mistake she made or on purpose?
And you're right about taking on the military -- but having done it he
should at least have done it right. He came across in that and the
gay marriage thing as just being a pushover. If he had persisted and
lost I would have blamed the repubs. Now I blame him.
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766.42 | | TUXEDO::GASKELL | | Tue Jul 30 1996 20:11 | 10 |
| .0
>>Iff any Child or Children above Sixteen years old, and of
competent understanding, shall smite, or curse their natural
father or mother; He or they shal be put to death:<<
If any of my parents children were to "smite or curse" their
parents, I would have become an only child very quickly. Good
old mum, I wondered where she got her parenting tips from.
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766.43 | | POLAR::RICHARDSON | Perpetual Glenn | Tue Jul 30 1996 20:17 | 2 |
| Iff any serf or labourer shall be absent from the work
set afore them, He or they shal be put to death.
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766.44 | | ACISS1::BATTIS | Future Chevy Blazer owner | Tue Jul 30 1996 20:18 | 4 |
|
.42
probably the library, while she was on an extended lunch no doubt.
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766.45 | | TUXEDO::GASKELL | | Fri Aug 02 1996 12:35 | 3 |
| Well! it was an extended lunch brake as she had to cook it as well.
You forget laddy that women usually do at least 2 jobs at the
same time.
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766.46 | | ACISS1::BATTIS | Future Chevy Blazer owner | Fri Aug 02 1996 12:53 | 2 |
|
<---- walking and chewing gum are not considered jobs. hth
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766.47 | | BUSY::SLAB | Catch you later!! | Fri Aug 02 1996 16:07 | 10 |
|
::GASKELL, as was pointed out in another note:
breaks
breaks
breaks
breaks
breaks
breaks!!
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766.48 | | SMURF::MSCANLON | a ferret on the barco-lounger | Fri Aug 02 1996 17:21 | 4 |
| re: .47
It's broken already, ok?
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