Conference back40::soapbox

    
    	This floor/building has been rearranged so many times this year
    	that an empty cube might only mean that someone is on their way
    	in tomorrow.
    

    
    
    	we have no empty cubes in Hudson.....
    
    
    

    You have empty cops in Hudson-Geez, talk about paranoid!!!!! I've been
    pulled over three times up there, once the guy had his gun drawn and
    everything. They watch too much TV. Not that this belongs in this
    topic, but you said Hudson and it brought the memories back. Carry
    on...
    
    
    						lunchbox

| <<< Note 693.2 by SUBPAC::SADIN "Freedom isn't free." >>>

| we have no empty cubes in Hudson.....

	WRONG!!!!!  We have several where we are at. And very shortly, there
will be a few more.

    Are we talking about Hudson MA or Hudson NH? If you are talking about
    Mass, I apologize. Hudson Mass's Finest have never harrassed me. The
    fact that I've only been there once might be a factor...

	We are talking about Hudson MA, but we're talking about cubes, not
cops. :-)

    I shan't bother you again with my cop stories in this topic.
    
    
    					apologies,
    
    						lunchbox

>                <<< Note 693.7 by CSLALL::SECURITY "LUNCHBOX" >>>

>     I shan't bother you again with my cop stories in this topic.
    
    
>    					apologies,
    
>    					lunchbox
    
    
    {slap! slap!}
    
    wake up! smell the thread title! feel the fabric of the first few
    notes!
    
    sheesh, no wonder somebody stole a vax780 out the front door last week 
    
    *8)*8)*8)*8)*8)*8)*8)*8)*8)*8)*8)*8)*8)*8)*8)*8)*8)*8)*8)*8)*8)*8)*8)

    "The first few notes" would, in part, refer to me, as I was the 3rd. I
    don't know what is going on with your security in Colorado, but I
    assure you no VTX's went out the door while I was here...

    before this gets outa hand... 
    
    it's a VAX --> not a VTX. that's a software product... sorta tough to
    steal bits 'n bytes...
    
    can you say "oh, bob! you're so clever to make that joke!" (VAXen weigh
    in the tons of pounds)..

         What are we talking about here? People getting fired or things
    being stolen? Either way, I am familiar with the problem. 

          <<< Note 693.0 by SCASS1::EDITEX::MOORE "GetOuttaMyChair" >>>
    
>    Count the number of empty cubes within 50 feet of you.
>    How many were emptied within the last year?
    
>    I count 8 empty cubes, all emptied within the last year.
 
	Empty cubicles? Big deal. In CXO we count empty CORES, each
	about 100k square feet, something like 4 or 5 empty right now.
   
    
Jim

    Yes, we have more space than we can shake a stick at.

    .12
    
    Thanks for livening up my day Jim...I wasn't counting cubicles outside
    of 50 feet...I figure Ainsley can regale you with his now 1000+ square
    foot office.
    
    ;^P

    
    
    	re: empty cubes in Hudson
    
    	I'm a bit suprised to see any empty cubes. They took all the
    engineering techs office space away in our group (although a few
    managed to hang on) because of the lack of free cubes.
    
    jim

    After Monday, there are seas of empty cubes in Greenbelt

    Billions and billions and billions.. Oh! Wrong thread!:)
    
    Not only is there the constant whanging of the down sizing, but there
    are many who are heading out cause its to hot in the kitchen. I sumize
    that someday it will be just a memory of what once was a company
    called Digital Equipment Corporation. 

    .3
    
    After listening in on my scanner for a few months I now have a better 
    insight into why a cop would be cautious when he stops someone, and 
    why he may have his gun drawn.  There are more really bad guys out in 
    our neighborhoods than we probably realize.
    
    And, back to the topic, we have a lot of empty cubes in TAY2 and will
    soon have more--we're moving.

    
    Is the title of this topic a cube rubric?
    

	Jim, they took your cubes away so that the FAB Engineers can have them,
right? From what I hear, everyone might end up in building 1 by the entrance in
a few months. Our group which is over there now (I'll be joining them soon)
will come back to building 2. What is ironic is the techs over here have their
own offices right now. 



Glen

    
    	We not only have no empty cubes, but are also seeking more
    	bodies here in Hudson.  Honestly, we're terribly short-handed
    	around here, and it doesn't look to be getting better that
    	quickly.  Seems so strange considering all the layoffs this week.
    
    	Karen
    

    No empty cubes within 50 feet of my own. Within the last year, 4 cubes
    were emptied by individuals taking other Digital positions and had new
    occupants within 2 weeks. Actually, my cube was empty for 4.5 of the
    last 12 months as I was on disability/parental leave ... but I don't
    think thats what this topic is about.
    
    Downstairs they are making more, smaller cubes to squeeze more people
    in.
    
    Of course, we need to fit more people into MSO because entire buildings
    have been removed from Digitals property portfolio.
    
      Annie

    
    I heard that they were going to make the very back of the MSO2 cafeteria
    into office space 8^/.
    
    No empty cubes in my area, either.  In fact, the ubiquitous "they" come
    by often to check on what space we're using, and we've had space taken
    away on a regular basis.  We're incredibly cramped up here 8^(.
    

 Z   And, back to the topic, we have a lot of empty cubes in TAY2 and will
 Z   soon have more--we're moving.
    
    Not to worry.  Your building will soon burst at the seams.  Hundreds of
    us moving to TAY.

    Empty cubes?  Heck, we've emptied entire FLOORS over the last few
    years. 

    
      Major reorg coming down in eng/pko.  Dunno if it will fill or
     empty cubes - perhaps both.  Some NT eng moving from SBU to PCBU,
     which is in Acton and other places.
    
      bb

    re: .14
    
    Barry, that's about right.  There are 11 empty cubes around me.
    
    Bob

    
      check your pits
    
      bb

    No empty cubes here, I am on the home alone program!!

    RE:30
    
    I would rather have your commute than braving the Dallas Dragstrip
    known as I 635 where the speed limits (65) are only a suggestion and
    85MPH is the norm.

As I was one of the last people to leave Welwyn (WLO), frequently the entire 
building would be deserted (probably in contravention of the Health & Safety 
at Work laws).  It was a bit eerie, realy.

Chris.

    COP is trying to lease out a couple of floors...this from in 1990,
    there were 11 local DC sites.

    
      According to the Digital press release of the 500 layoffs, the
     new word is "tweaking".
    
      As in, "headcount is being tweaked".
    
      bb

    Is that similar to social tweaking...with impunity?

    >  According to the Digital press release of the 500 layoffs, the
    > new word is "tweaking".
    
    >  As in, "headcount is being tweaked".
    
     Which amounts to what, 2.25% of the total MCS workforce? Seems like
    tweaking isn't too unreasonable a term to use, particularly since not
    all are actually getting the axe (some are being retrained and moved to
    other parts of the company.) In point of fact, a number of divisions in
    the company are hiring workers, and the company-wide headcount is 
    expected to increase slightly.

| <<< Note 693.34 by GAAS::BRAUCHER "Welcome to Paradise" >>>

| As in, "headcount is being tweaked".

	bb, think about it. After getting rid....errr laying off 60k employess
(or through selling their divisions), 500 IS just a tweak!

    
    small nit, there are only two divisions in Digital. MCS and the
    Computer Systems division. the rest are units. 

    
    	There might only be a few divisions, but we're sure seeing ALOT
    	of subtractions lately.
    

    If we are part of a division, does that make us quotients?  Actually,
    I'd rather be a divisor.  

	Digital Semiconductor is just a unit and not a Division?

    Kind of like the Holy Roman Empire not being Holy, nor Roman, nor an
    empire.
    
    					lunchbox

    Was that a part of history that man made up to show they had genitals?

    
    	No, Glen ... you're thinking of the 60's.
    

    My department went from about 80 ish 2 years ago then whittled down to 
    about 16 ish up to 3 weeks ago. As of 1st July,it`ll be 7.
    
    Who knows what it`ll be in 6 months time. Oh dear.
    
    
    
    

    Greetings everyone,
    
    Odd that out here at the tip of the Digital spear most of the talent is
    giving itself the package. In the last month I've seen two of the most
    talented people walk. There has been noone to replace them and really
    most of the money made by the MCS contract base is by those of us with
    skills that we can't reproduce! Oddly at the last after-hours (17:30 -
    20:30 no ot) district meeting we had a new General area manager told us
    about the staff (appeared to us as a bunch of old Maynard chowder
    society and drum corps) he created to help do his job. Also when asked
    why we should be excited about the future for MCS he said something to
    the effect "not my problem, your problem." This sure seems to be a
    interesting way of building a future. 
    
    Fred 

    
    	re: best people leaving
    
    	Yup, that seems to be the story all around. Some of our most
    talented people have picked up and moved to Colorado, New Mexico, and
    Texas. More money, more opportunity for upward mobility, etc. Digital
    may be making some money now, but they need to start offering their
    good people some incentive to stay. 
    
    jim

    >            <<< Note 693.47 by SUBPAC::SADIN
    
    > Some of our most talented people have picked up and moved to
    > Colorado
    
    
    not with DEC. I just got a call. more empty cubes to come back to..

    
    
>    not with DEC. I just got a call. more empty cubes to come back to..
    
    	I believe most of our folks went with Intel.
    
    
    jim

    > I believe most of our folks went with Intel.
    
    that's probably New Mexico then, Intel ain't got much in this part of
    the world {yet}..
    
    

    
    
    	Perhaps it was Motorola then. We lost so many I've begun to lose
    track.....
    
    
    

    
    	ayup

    I'll take any job leads I can get
    
    -ss

 the Mcdonalds up the street is hiring..

    Only if it's ol' Mcdonald the farmer, no restaurants please.  Played
    that gig once...once.
    -ss

 Well, you did say you'd take any job leads you could get..




 Jim

    
    
    	Analog devices in Cambridge.
    
    

    
      This is such a useful topic, I thought I'd rathole it.  Today
     it was so hot I just took a half-hour slow walk around Maynard
     Center from PKO.  I also like to walk around cemeteries, morgues,
     bomb craters, ruins, etc.  As I walked past the many empty store
     fronts, most with dangling partial signs, forlorn space-for-rent
     notices, plus the struggling ones that I'd guess won't last long,
     I came across several town businesses that seem none the worse.
    
      MacDonald's.  The hardware store.  The townie bars.  Surprising
     what survives in a general debacle.
    
      bb

    And for all the creeping decrepitude, the sidewalk extortionist er,
    meter dude is still out there exacting every last red cent they can
    from any unfortunate by ticketing them exactly one nanosecond after the
    meter clicks to violation.  Maynard is not shopper friendly but the
    merchants have penty of empty parking now that the evil Digital people
    have left the mill.  
    
    Brian  

        I would be worried about the evil analog people moving in.