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Title:Soapbox. Just Soapbox.
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Moderator:WAHOO::LEVESQUEONS
Created:Thu Nov 17 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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655.0. "the REAL political truth !" by MKOTS3::FLATHERS () Mon Feb 19 1996 14:25

    
     YOu want the REAL truth on the candidate's issues ???
    
    Instead of watching an hour of Network News,  take a stroll down
    a main street of a local decent size town. Stop by the various 
    policital candidate store fronts, and just request some lit on the
    platform issues.   It's good exercise, and you'll be AMAZED at what
    you'll learn !!!!!!!!!!!!
    
       Jack
    
    
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655.1never been to one...EVMS::MORONEYNever underestimate the power of human stupidityMon Feb 19 1996 15:022
Any political rallies in the Nashua area today?

655.2LANDO::OLIVER_Btools are our friendsMon Feb 19 1996 15:041
    starting new? topics with impunity!
655.3PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Feb 19 1996 15:072
  .0  you anticipating an argument, Jack?
655.4?MKOTS3::FLATHERSMon Feb 19 1996 15:146
    > .0 you anticipating an agrument, Jack?
    
       with what ???   the idea of getting info first hand via a little
    walking exercise vs. TV news ???
    
      
655.5PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Feb 19 1996 15:2010
    
>       with what ???   the idea of getting info first hand via a little
>    walking exercise vs. TV news ???

    er, yes, that is what i'm asking you.  are you anticipating an
    argument with that?  if not, why do we need a new topic for it?
    what are you hoping to see in this brandy new topic?
    
      

655.6BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityMon Feb 19 1996 15:297

	Milady...it might be that this one hasn't been tarnished, ratholed,
destroyed for the sake of all humanity, yet. :-)


Glen
655.7?MKOTS3::FLATHERSMon Feb 19 1996 15:3110
      the other topics seem to deal with individual candidates.
    
     I wish to discuss the idea of first hand info.  And to find out
    if any other noters have done the same. Had similar
    experiences...etc...
    
      does every sting require a topic that fuels an argument ???
    
     is that rule the moderators have laid down ???
    
655.8PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Feb 19 1996 15:3610
    
>      does every sting require a topic that fuels an argument ???

	whatever that means - no.
    
>     is that rule the moderators have laid down ???
    
	no.  the world is full of noters who start topics for no
	apparent reason, however.  thanks for explaining what you're	
	looking for.
655.9MKOTS3::FLATHERSMon Feb 19 1996 15:366
        I should not type so fast...
      
           Well, does every string require a topic that fuels an argument ?
    
     I suppose this one has already...
    
655.10ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Feb 19 1996 15:364
    "political truth" is somewhat an oxymoron...adding 'REAL' in front of it
    does not help the title much, either.
    
    IMO, ymmv, http, ou812, fwiw, hth, etc
655.11MKOTS3::FLATHERSMon Feb 19 1996 15:404
       > No apparant reason
    
            your humble opinion of course
    
655.12NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Feb 19 1996 15:403
>           Well, does every string require a topic that fuels an argument ?

I'm a frayed knot.
655.13PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Feb 19 1996 15:528
    
>            your humble opinion of course

	no, it's not my humble opinion, you twit.  it's fact.

	i didn't say that was the case here, you might notice.
    

655.14MKOTS3::FLATHERSMon Feb 19 1996 15:556
         
       well,  you  poor excuse for a moderator,,,,
    
      this "twit" believes it was, at the very least, implied.
    
    
655.15BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Feb 19 1996 15:563
    
    	Hey, hey ... Diane is a VERY GOOD excuse for a moderator.
    
655.16anudder oxyGAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseMon Feb 19 1996 15:574
    
      humble opinion of a Boney ?   Bwahahaha !
    
      bb
655.17PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Feb 19 1996 16:043
   .16  thanks, Billbob.  much appreciated, as always.

655.18WAHOO::LEVESQUEmemory canyonMon Feb 19 1996 16:061
    Goes double for this "boney".
655.19BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityMon Feb 19 1996 16:263

	Milady is a good excuse for anything, PERIOD! 
655.20GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Tue Apr 16 1996 15:3862
I am presently working on a start-up business which is in part of the economy 
that is tightly regulated.  At first I thought -- I'm going to build this 
business on the principle of complete separation of government and economics. 
I was just going to ignore the government regulations and if confronted by the 
government challenge them in court going all the way to the supreme court if 
necessary. Unfortunately, investors where saying things like -- thanks for
sharing your radical views but I'm not going to be participating.  So I have 
had to conform to market demand.  This is going to increase the expenses of 
operating the business.  I may even have to increase my prices locking out 
some of the lower income earners which I didn't want to do. In addition to 
that, government bureaucrats are a bit retarded and tend to drag their feet.  
This is going to restrict the growth of my company while I'm waiting for them 
to make up their minds what to do. It seems to me that society likes to 
inflict pain on itself. Maybe they are just naive to believe the crap of 
retarded politicians. Market demand as used above does not imply free market. 
It is in fact a statist market.

In effect, what the above comes down to is this: work free based on principle 
or work as a slave because the market demands you to work chained and tethered 
by regulations.  I can not and will not work under such conditions -- I AM NOT 
A SLAVE. There is a difference however between the slaves of the past and 
slaves of the present.  The slaves of the  past were actually physically 
chained.  Today we are chained with laws but the effects are the same -- our 
movements are extremely restricted.  We have the appearance of being free but 
we are on a very short leash. Try operating a business without some branch of 
the government watching and waiting to attack you should you deviate in the 
slightest from their stringent regulations.  BTW, commerce is the only valid
philosophical means of living, and existing peacefully with a growing standard 
of living.  Politicians know this and don't want the populous to discover it 
otherwise the populous will kick these parasites off their backs.  Economic 
regulations are anti-life because life is action in a commercial context. 
Commerce is were people deal with one another voluntarily.

Contrary to what the media might be saying, economies are not improving. Is 
there anyone reading this whose standard of living is increasing by leaps and 
bounds?  -- Mafia and organized crime excluded. Organized crime is likely 
doing very well because it doesn't operate under any laws. In fact, organized 
crime likes all the regulations because it makes criminal activity more 
profitable. Without economic regulations and with a political system based on
individual rights, organized crime couldn't exist.

It's time to say yes to you, yes to your own standard of living increasing by 
leaps and bounds.  Time to throw the parasites off your back.

Next time you are walking in a group of people, notice how many wear permanent 
frowns on their faces.  They have defaulted on their right to live freely, 
happily.  Next time you see the face of a career politician on TV, note the 
permanent frown.  Politicians despise happy people because they themselves can 
never be happy.  A political career lacks the elements of productivity, 
self-worth, self-respect, and honesty to achieve any level of happiness. The 
politician's default on these elements leads to dementia. They need to attack 
to make themselves feel important and powerful. Look at Yeltsin's attack on 
Chechyna, Hussein's attack on Kuwait, Clinton's permissive attack on Waco and 
the more recent Freemen in Montana. If we, you or I,  were to do such a thing 
we would be immediately diagnosed as mentally ill, especially by the media.  
Why aren't they? They are sucking the life out of us and the economies of the 
world and will continue to do so until there is nothing left. Let's put a stop 
to it before we are reduced to beggars.

"The word "politics" is derived from the word "poly" meaning "many" and the 
word "ticks" meaning "blood sucking parasites."
	 --author unknown--
655.21SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatTue Apr 16 1996 15:486
    .20
    
    > "The word "politics" is derived from the word "poly" meaning "many" and
    > the word "ticks" meaning "blood sucking parasites."
    
    Richard Lederer, noted linguistic maven and sometime humorist.
655.22ACISS2::LEECHextremistTue Apr 16 1996 18:153
    "poly" "ticks"
    
    Yes, I think I like this.  Very accurate- picturesque, even.  8^)
655.23Politics in its natural state!GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Tue May 07 1996 20:31586
     What follows is a recent speech by a Mr. Eric Savage. Mr. Savage is 
     said to be an authority on international business and world economies. 
     It is long, but is worth every minute spent reading. It explains a lot!

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                          James J. Hill by Eric Savage

     Now, I will tell you the story of a working-class brother, James
     J. Hill. He was a railroad pioneer back in the mid-1800s, and his
     story is brought to light in a book called, "Entrepreneurs Versus
     The State" by Burton Folsom.

     Let's travel back in time to the 1860s. America was experiencing
     its first railroad boom. Railroads were being built all up and
     down the East Coast. Well, as Mr. Folsom identifies in his book,
     two classes of entrepreneurs exist: market entrepreneurs and
     political entrepreneurs. Political entrepreneurs are what Mark
     has been calling lazy political businessmen who are part of the
     parasitical elite. Political entrepreneurs make their money by
     seeking government subsidies, by getting special government
     rights of way, and by accessing political clout. Indeed, they
     seek their success through political clout with government
     officials.

     During America's railroad building boom in the 1860s, an
     opportunity arose for the parasitical-elite class. The political
     entrepreneurs seeking easy money got together with congressmen
     seeking popularity, and together they wove a deception. The
     deception was that only the government could finance the building
     of America's first transcontinental railroad. That deception 100
     years ago is still promoted today. I remember reading about it in
     my history text books in school.

     But that was a deception woven by the parasitical-elite class: by
     political entrepreneurs so they could line their pockets with
     lavish government subsidies and by congressmen so they could
     boost their self-worth and soak up self-glory by spending money
     that they controlled but did not earn. They could parade around
     and say, "Look how important we are. Look how we benefit the
     American public. We, the government, are building this
     transcontinental railroad and opening up the interior and west
     coast of America." ...A perfect setup for the parasitical-elite
     class to come together -- political entrepreneurs joining hands
     with power-seeking politicians.

     So a deception was woven: only the federal government could
     finance the building of the transcontinental railroad. The public
     bought it, and with great fanfare, Congress went ahead with it.

     There were two companies: Central Pacific started building
     eastward from the West Coast and the Union Pacific started
     westward from the East Coast. The government paid those companies
     by the total miles of track they built. So what did they do?
     Instead of being bound by the disciplines of a bottom line, they
     were getting lavish subsidies from the government for the total
     miles of track they built. So they rushed into the wilderness to
     collect government subsidies.

     But because they were being paid by the mile, these companies
     purposely built the longest, most circuitous routes they could
     possibly justify so they could get more government money. And
     they rushed construction to collect their per-mile subsidies.
     They rushed ahead with poor construction and poor planning into
     the wilderness.

     Remember, the congressmen were spending money that they did not
     earn but controlled, and they wanted to reap the self-glory for
     spending that money. Those politicians, always trying to justify
     their jobs, always trying to show that they benefit the American
     public, got into the railroad business where they had no business
     being in the first place. Controlling tremendous amounts of money
     they didn't earn, they reaped all this self-glory that comes with
     spending the money. Now they could say, "Look how valuable we
     are; we're financing the building of a transcontinental railroad
     across America!"

     But those bogus-job congressmen were part of the
     parasitical-elite class. They were not interested in getting out
     and exerting the nitty-gritty effort that business does when it
     spends money. They were glad to spend the money, large amounts of
     money, and reap the glory, but they weren't about to get out
     there and exert the nitty-gritty effort to put the controls on
     spending to make sure that money was spent right. They were not
     about to get right down into the details themselves to make sure
     that they were buying the right quality goods and that the
     railroad was being built over the right routes...not like a
     businessman would who is spending that money out of his own
     pocket.

     So the whole program was laced with fraud to begin with. The line
     managers set up their own supplier companies selling their
     railroads substandard quality rails and ties at exorbitant
     prices. For, there was no control over the government money.

     In addition, because they were getting paid by the amount of rail
     they built, each company was racing to build as much track as it
     could before the other one...to get the most money from the
     government. So instead of taking the proper time to carefully map
     out the best routes, especially vital for building over hills at
     the lowest uphill grade, they instead just raced forward and paid
     no attention to vital planning and surveying. No time to be
     wasted on planning and surveying, they built track over uphill
     grades that were far too steep. They didn't take the necessary
     time to do anything right. When winter came, they just kept on
     building over the plains, right over the ice! Because they wanted
     to build as much as possible, they did not wait for the ice to
     melt -- they just kept on laying track. When summer came, they
     had to tear up thousands of miles of track and rebuild it, before
     they could open the line! And to get more money, the two railroad
     companies built the longest routes with under-quality material.
     ...You can just imagine what the future operating costs this
     transcontinental railroad would endure.

     Indeed, when the Union Pacific was complete, from day one it
     could not make a profit because it's operating expenses were too
     high. First of all, thousands of miles of shoddily built,
     under-quality track had to be constantly replaced. Second of all,
     because they took the extra long route, and it wasn't built over
     the lowest grade hills, they had to pay a lot more money in fuel
     costs, wage costs, and it took a lot more time to haul freight
     across the country. So the operating expenses were so high, from
     day one the Union Pacific was never able to make a profit.

     Therefore, the government had to continue to subsidize the
     transcontinental line once it was built. Union Pacific had to
     continue to receive more and more government money or it would
     have gone out of business and stopped running. Indeed, Congress
     had just spent a fortune financing the building of the
     transcontinental line. Now Congress could not let their prize
     transcontinental line declare bankruptcy and close down. So, the
     government continued financing it.

     After the Union Pacific was built, other political entrepreneurs
     got together with glory-seeking politicians in their areas of the
     country and said, "The federal government financed the Union
     Pacific, therefore they have to finance a transcontinental
     railroad in our region."

     So Congress went ahead and financed the building of a
     transcontinental up North called the Northern Pacific, and one
     down South called the Santa Fe. Of course, both of those had the
     same results. They built extra long, circuitous routes; they
     turned into an orgy of fraud, substandard quality material used,
     no time taken to select the lowest grade hills. So right from day
     one, the other two transcontinentals lost money, and they had to
     receive government subsidies just to continue operating.

     In the meantime, there was this young man, James J. Hill. He was
     born in a log cabin in Ontario, Canada to a working-class family.
     His father died when he was a young boy, so he had to get a job
     to support his mother. At seventeen, he moved to St. Paul and got
     a job for a shipping company. He started in an entry-level
     position, but he loved the transportation business. He really
     applied himself; he began making contacts, and he began moving
     up. Before long, Hill started integrating. He began making
     partnerships in local railroads that were being built in his
     area. Eventually, Hill started major integrating. He decided that
     he was going to build the first completely privately financed
     transcontinental railroad way up along the U.S. and Canadian
     border, which at that time was all wilderness with no settlers.

     Well, from day one the idea was labeled Hill's Folly, and you can
     see why. How could someone build a railroad that could possibly
     compete when he had to pay all the building costs himself, and
     there were three others that existed farther South that had all
     their building costs paid by the government? Moreover, Hill's
     railroad was going to be way up North where no one lived. Those
     other three government-financed railroads were located in the
     main population areas of the U.S. In addition, once Hill did
     complete his railroad, how could he compete with the other three
     railroads when they continued to receive government subsidies and
     Hill had to pay his expenses through his own bottom-line profits
     -- and the three other lines proved that no profits existed!

     Well, Hill went ahead with his plans anyway. Hill had to obey the
     disciplines of a bottom line. He couldn't go rushing into the
     wilderness to collect government subsidies. He had to build his
     line out West one extension at a time. He'd build westward into
     the wilderness a few hundred miles at a time. Then he would send
     agents back East to advertise to farmers in the East. Hill
     offered to move the farmers for free into this western wilderness
     so they could settle and start their farms. Then Hill would give
     them free rates to ship their crops back to the markets in the
     East for a couple of years until they got established.

     This worked. For each extension West, he brought in farmers; he'd
     build up his track, and after awhile his extension West made
     money. From those profits, he'd finance another extension
     West...a few hundred miles at a time. He never stopped. He
     settled the entire northern border of the United States with his
     railroad. And, lo and behold, in 1890 the first American
     transcontinental railroad was built without one penny of
     government money. He reached the Pacific Ocean, and he did it
     without one penny of government money!

     What an accomplishment! But most amazingly, one man did it! Not
     the entire might of the U.S. Government -- one lone man! One man
     and his integrated thinking was raising the prosperity of an
     entire nation! But, now that he accomplished this amazing feat,
     could he make it work? Here Hill was with his transcontinental,
     way up North when the population base was farther South; he was
     competing against three transcontinentals farther South that had
     all of their expenses paid for by the government. So, what would
     happen to Hill's transcontinental?

     During the building of Hill's railroad, since it was his personal
     money that was being spent, he personally dug into the tough
     nitty-gritty details. With unyielding disciplines and efforts, he
     put controls on everything: He personally surveyed the routes; he
     made sure the shortest, most direct routes were built. When the
     track had to go over hills, he would spend time with the
     engineers and make sure they picked out the lowest grade hills.
     He personally supervised the buying of materials to make sure
     they got the highest quality rails and ties for the lowest cost.
     ...So what happened to Hill's Folly? Well, from day one, when it
     was completed, he made a profit! He ran circles around the three
     government-financed lines because his operating expenses were so
     much lower. In addition his freight took a lot less time to reach
     the West Coast. From day one, Hill made a profit. From day one,
     the government-subsidized transcontinental railroads never, ever
     turned a profit.

     One man was running circles around the almighty U.S. Government!
     Of course, the incompetence and greed of career politicians could
     never bring values to the people. But one market businessman can
     raise the standard of living of a nation. ...Just think of the
     power behind Mark Hamilton's Great Replacement Program in which
     market businessmen lead our country and build our economy!
     Anyway, back to J. J. Hill:

     This one integrated thinker's advantages kept building momentum
     and left Congress's follies in the dust. Hill was one real man
     from the working class with the competence to build jobs and
     values for everyone. He kept rising up. Congressmen, by contrast,
     are fakes with no business competence whatsoever. Thus, Hill left
     them all in his dust.

     Hill built up the whole industry of the Northwest. He built
     feeder lines. For example, if copper were found a hundred miles
     north, he'd build a feeder line, move in a copper company so they
     could start mining and shipping the copper over his line. If
     lumber were discovered up in the mountain, he'd feeder line up
     there, move in a lumber company, and they'd start shipping the
     lumber over his lines. If there was a good clearing for cattle
     ranching a few miles south, he'd build a feeder line.
     ...Railroads discovered that feeder lines became a main source of
     profit.

     But consider Congress's lines built for their own glory and
     self-worth. Because those railroads were receiving their money
     from the government, they would have to get Congress's permission
     to build a feeder line. Well, of course, everyone knows what
     happens when the government has to make a decision. A simple
     black-and-white decision to build a profitable feeder line that
     should be made overnight would be tied up for months, even for
     years. All the incompetent congressmen would get up and debate
     over it to get in the spotlight and appear needed and important.
     ...They cared only about themselves, not about what's best for
     America.

     So Hill's railroad ran circles around the three
     government-financed railroads from day one. In addition, Hill
     brought civilization and industry to the Northwest: mining,
     lumber, apple farmers in Washington, wheat farmers on the plains.
     He built up the whole region along his railroad line.

     Once Hill completed his line to the West Coast, he did not stop
     there. He kept integrating out. Hill started integrating out
     toward the Orient. What about trade with the Orient? Hill did
     some calculations: if one major province in China substituted an
     ounce of rice a day for an ounce of American wheat, that would
     mean 50 million bushels of American wheat would travel over his
     railroad to China every year! American farmers exporting huge
     shipments of wheat to China -- what a possibility! So Hill sent
     agents to Japan and China to begin promoting American trade, the
     same way he had done during the building up of his
     transcontinental railroad.

     In the meantime, we had these political entrepreneurs in America
     still running around wondering how to get more government
     subsidies to line their pockets. Yet one working-class brother
     was integrating out, pushing up the lid, creating jobs by the
     thousands. Indeed, Hill sent his agents to Japan and China to
     start promoting American products, and he went out and bought his
     own steamship line. He raced his ships back and forth between
     Japan and China and America. Hill built up American trade with
     Asia the same way that he built up business along his line. He
     would send products for free to the Japanese and Chinese if they
     would just try them out. Then once they tried them out, if they
     liked them they would come back, and Hill would build up the
     business.

     Every day Hill filled his ships with American grain, and with
     copper from Montana, lumber from Washington, cotton from the
     South, textiles from New England, rails from Pittsburgh, apples
     from Washington. He would send them all free to the Far East. The
     Asians would try these American goods, and if they liked them,
     then they would come back for more.

     In fact, Hill went to Japan, met with Japanese businessmen, and
     proposed that he would buy southern cotton, pay for it himself,
     ship it to the Japanese for free, and give it to them free. Hill
     would buy the southern cotton out of his own money if the
     Japanese would just try this cotton in place of the cotton they
     normally got from India. Well, the Japanese took him up on his
     offer; they liked it, and soon Hill's box cars were full of
     cotton, travelling from the South to the North to the Pacific
     Coast and then on to a steamship to Japan.

     Hill used this strategy to build up all kinds of business. In
     1900, Japan started a railroad building boom. Hill recognized the
     potential of railroads throughout Asia. At that time, the world's
     suppliers of rail were England and Belgium. But there were a few
     American rail makers in Pittsburgh. So Hill went to Japan; he
     purposely underbid the English and the Belgian, paid the
     difference out of his own pocket just to get the Japanese to try
     rails made in Pittsburgh. His strategy worked: Japan started
     buying all their rail from Pittsburgh, which built up the
     fledgling rail industry in America.

     What happened in the 1890s was nothing short of a miracle: When
     Hill started his push into Asia, trade with Japan was seven
     million dollars a year. Nine years later, with Hill in charge of
     this American mission into Asia, American trade with Japan alone
     was 52 million dollars! And he was now pushing into China as
     well! Hill was causing geometrical increases in American
     commerce. He was spearheading 100 years ago an American dominance
     of trade in Asia! In the meantime the political entrepreneurs,
     Hill's so-called rivals, were still running around Washington
     trying to figure out how they could get more subsidies. And Hill
     just kept on integrating and pushing out into Asia, spearheading
     a geometrical increase of American commerce in Asia. This was 100
     years ago.

     As time went by, the other three government-financed
     transcontinentals continued to lose money. The government kept
     pouring taxpayers' dollars into financing them. No, career
     politicians can never serve the people and provide values to
     society; career politicians can only drain the people by spending
     taxpayers' money incompetently. The public started getting fed up
     with this. In addition, as time went by, the fraud committed by
     the political entrepreneurs started to surface - things like
     setting up their own companies to sell substandard material at
     overcharged prices. The American public had to continue to pay
     subsidies into this hoax just to keep these other three
     government railroads running. The public finally had enough. So
     Congress, nothing but glory-seeking politicians, started
     self-righteously parading the corrupt political entrepreneurs in
     front of Congress and the nation, forming special-investigation
     committees.

     Well, once again, Congress wove a deception: They presented
     themselves as protectors of the American public. They would nobly
     project, "Look how great we are; look how needed and important we
     are; we're going to protect the American public from those greedy
     and corrupt railroad executives." Yet, the root cause of the
     problem was Congress itself. Congress was the culprit! Congress
     spent other people's money in a railroad business where they had
     no business being in the first place. ...Incompetent politicians
     in the railroad business -- c'mon!

     So instead of getting up and confessing, "Look, the problem was
     us. We now realize the problem was us getting into the railroad
     business in the first place. We had no business in there, so now
     we're going to get completely out." They could have been honest,
     but they were not. No, they didn't want to say that because that
     would have exposed their bogus jobs. Instead, they saw a chance
     to increase their bogus jobs and to increase their popularity and
     political power for re-election. They instead self-righteously
     projected, "Look how we earn our jobs. We're protecting the
     American public." Congress self-righteously started parading
     those corrupt railroad executives in front of the nation.
     Congress made the railroad executives solely to blame for the
     transcontinental fiascoes. And then, to "protect the public,"
     they proposed to form the ICC, the Interstate Commerce
     Commission, and to pass Sherman Antitrust legislation to further
     get in there and regulate the railroads.

     Well, Hill knew what was going on; he knew what the story was
     here. So Hill moved to Washington. He set up residence in
     Washington, D.C. He personally talked to the congressmen. He
     testified before their special committees. He told them what was
     going on: the root cause of the problem was the government
     getting in there where it had no business being in the first
     place, financing these railroads, spending other people's money
     on rails. That caused the corruption. Hill gave the example of
     his railroad. He didn't accept one penny of government money
     while his railroad built up all the industry in the Northwest.
     And now his line was promoting an explosion of American trade
     into Asia while the three government-sponsored lines were sinking
     in corruption.

     Now, the congressmen were intelligent men. They were college
     educated. They knew what Hill was saying. They knew it all made
     sense. They knew it was the truth, but they didn't care because
     they wanted to justify their bogus jobs. So they ignored him.
     They ignored Hill, and they went on to pass the ICC and the
     Sherman Antitrust legislation, which enabled them to get in and
     heavily regulate and punish the railroads.

     Hill even wrote a book on this whole ordeal and circulated his
     book to the congressmen, explaining the situation. He presented
     all the evidence that showed how Congress was doing the wrong
     thing. But the bogus-job fakes in Congress ignored Hill because
     they wanted to advance their own power. This clique of people
     went ahead and passed the ICC, passed the Sherman Antitrust
     legislation. And what did that do? Those regulations made it
     illegal for railroads to make any kinds of deals with customers.
     They had to charge the same standard rate to all customers.
     Therefore, the dynamics Hill used to build up his railroad, to
     move in people for free, to ship their freight for free or for a
     low cost until they got established...was now illegal! Those same
     dynamics that he was now using to spearhead an American dominance
     of trade in Asia were all now illegal! Bam! Hill was a
     working-class brother who discovered integrated thinking, and he
     was rising up faster and faster, pushing up the lid to lift all
     the world into a jack-in-the-box explosion -- and BAM! The
     parasitical elite smashed him down. Hill's drive into Asia was
     over.

     The year after the ICC's legislation passed, America's trade with
     Japan alone dropped by 40%. Now remember, Hill was spearheading a
     geometrical increase in trade. Trade with Japan and China was
     increasing geometrically. Now Congress passed this legislation
     and, plop, everything dropped 40%.

     Hill was forced to sell his steamship lines, he got out of trade
     completely with Asia, and he was so frustrated, he retired.
     Suddenly, the miracle was over. Now, this was a hundred years
     ago! Let's stop and look at the implications of this. Let's
     stretch this out to see what Congress really cut off a hundred
     years ago. It was bad enough they cut off Hill's trade with Asia
     back then, but let's project that into the future to see what
     they cut off today:

     Today, you hear our President and top CEOs and top economists
     saying that America's greatest danger economically is its trade
     imbalance with Asia, and our lack of international
     competitiveness. But who the hell knows that a hundred years ago
     Hill was spearheading an American dominance of trade throughout
     all of Asia? That trade dominance was cut off by pip-squeaks and
     clowns in Congress. Who even knows that? Nobody mentions that
     today, but everyone is warning about "the greatest economic
     danger facing America today". Americans are losing their jobs by
     the thousands, being outcompeted, factories being closed down.
     Yet who knows that one hundred years ago this one integrated
     thinker, one man, learned how to start doing integrated thinking,
     started pushing up the lid on this jack-in-the-box, started
     spearheading an American dominance of trade with Asia increasing
     geometrically, then WHAM! It was all smashed back down by a few
     pip-squeaks and clowns in Congress strutting around with
     superiority complexes a hundred years ago!

     The politicians back then knew what they were doing. They were
     intelligent men. They were college educated. Hill went and
     explained the facts to them. But no, they wanted to increase
     their power. They wanted to justify and advance their bogus jobs.
     So they ignored Hill, and they cut off something magnificent a
     hundred years ago.

     Hill was not only spearheading an American dominance of trade
     with Asia a hundred years ago, trade that was increasing
     geometrically, but Hill was also spearheading an
     industrialization of Asia, of Japan and China. He was getting the
     American trade in there; he was bringing in railroads, causing
     the railroads to be built up, causing factories to be built. He
     was causing American industry to follow its natural course and
     start flooding in and dominating Asia, which would have caused
     Asia to industrialize, Japan to industrialize, China to
     industrialize.

     So what does that mean? Consider the spread of Communism in Asia.
     Communism cannot take over an affluent, industrialized nation.
     Communism never has; it can't. Communism only takes over poor,
     unindustrialized peasant countries.

     Well, a hundred years ago Hill was spearheading a geometrical
     increase of American commerce in China. This was causing China's
     industrialization. But because he was cut off in the bud a
     hundred years ago by a handful of self-serving politicians, all
     that trade and industrialization was cut off. Forty-five years
     later, China was still a backward, peasant, unindustrialized
     country waiting for Mao.

     So what happened? Communism swept through China; Mao killed 30
     million people. Thirty million people! In addition, Communism
     spread into Korea and Vietnam, costing 110,000 Americans lives.
     Why? Because a hundred years ago a few self-serving politicians
     in Congress, trying to fake manhood, cut off something
     magnificent, smashed down this integrated thinker who was causing
     the industrialization of China. He would have prevented Communism
     in Asia and the deaths of 30 million Chinese and 110,000
     Americans...history's unforgivable tragedy.

    The full tragedy will never be known. For instance, imagine the
     dynamics that were cut off a hundred years ago: A century later and
     China is just now beginning to pull itself up from the bootstraps. A
     nation of one billion people, a fifth of the world's population, until now
     contributed nothing, nothing to the world economy! China, full of
     naturally high-energy productive people, contributed little to industry,
     nothing to technology, nothing to medicine, nothing to
     science...absolutely nothing because China was a backward,
     unindustrialized peasant country. Those good high-energy people have
     been completely stagnated, completely smashed down by Communism.

     But what if Hill were free from our destructive Congress to continue
     spearheading an industrialization of China a hundred years ago? That
     entire part of the world would look far different than today. The whole
     world would be a far better place. Until now, a fifth of the world's
     population contributed nothing to the advancement of civilization. Why?
     Because a hundred years ago Hill's miracle was killed by self-serving
     politicians who cared only about promoting themselves and cared not
     about what was good for the people. A hundred years later, China was
     totally stagnated with backward peasants. But what kind of powers
     would have been released? What kind of creative energies and new
     technologies would have been released from those billion people if they
     had industrialized a hundred years ago?

     You can really get a sense of what should have been when you look at
     the little-dragon countries in Asia, those little countries around China 
     that did not get swept away by Communism -- South Korea, Taiwan,
     Singapore, Hong Kong. Those are little fragmented countries with a
     similar race and culture that did not get swept away by Communism.
     Therefore, they industrialized after World War II and they made major
     contributions to the world economy. The little-dragon countries have
     made major contributions to technology, major contributions to science
     -- those tiny countries that have just a few million people. China has a
     billion people! China dwarfs those little-dragon countries in Asia today.

     In addition, consider Japan. Japan has a similar race, a similar culture 
     to the Chinese, they have a similar history, similar backgrounds. Japan
     industrialized right before World War II and then had to reindustrialize
     after World War II. Japan has 150 million people. Japan is the world
     leader today. Japan is the world economic power. Japan makes mighty
     contributions to the world economy, to technology, to science, to the
     arts, to culture. Japan is dwarfed by China. China is seven times bigger
     than Japan. Just think! But China was completely stagnated and held
     down because it never industrialized. Communism swept over China.
     Japan today is the number-one contributor to world advancement.
     Number one, and it's physically dwarfed by essentially the same people
     -- by China. 

     Just imagine: What if Hill had not been cut off a hundred years ago?
     What if Hill had not been smashed down? What if Hill had spearheaded
     the industrialization of China? One billion people like the Japanese.
     Where would civilization be now? We would probably have cures for
     cancer and AIDS. We may be building space cities on Mars or the
     moon.

     The contributions that the Chinese would have made to science and
     technology and to the world economy -- it's just mind boggling. But no
     way! All that was smashed down a hundred years ago by a handful of
     self-serving politicians -- by incompetent clowns causing their burden on
     advancing technology. A billion people stagnated, pushed down,
     happiness killed, 30 million Chinese killed, 110,000 Americans
     killed...all because a handful of lazy people with power a hundred years
     ago wanted to exercise their feelings of superiority!

     One man a hundred years ago, one man learned how to integrate...James 
     J. Hill. He started integrating; he started moving up. He learned how 
     business worked; he learned how the American economy worked; then he 
     learned how the world economy worked; then he learned how the whole 
     up-bringing of civilization worked. One ordinary man a hundred years ago 
     was in this jack-in-the-box; then he learned how to integrate. Therefore, 
     he began pushing the lid up. If he had been left alone, if he had not 
     been cut off, he would have opened that lid. China would have 
     industrialized. All of Asia would have industrialized. The whole world 
     led by America would have been pushed up, China would have been pushed 
     up, good-bye communism. The jack-in-the-box would have flown up, and it 
     would have taken everyone with it! It would have taken the whole world up 
     with it! Good-bye all the problems today. America would have been the
     dominant trade of this huge upswinging in Asia. Good-bye all America's
     problems, good-bye thousands of people losing their jobs, good-bye
     unemployment, good-bye Communism in Asia, good-bye Korean war,
     good-bye Vietnam war, good-bye starving people in the third world!
     This jack-in-the-box would have swung up. All our problems would
     have been whisked away. Everyone would have gone up with America
     because of one man! Because one man learned how to integrate a
     hundred years ago. But no, bam! He was smashed down because this
     one man started pushing up the lid. 

     There is a parasitical-elite class: the politicians and the political
     entrepreneurs. And whatever threatens to expose their hoax, threatens
     their bogus jobs, then no, BAM! They smash that down.

655.24ACISS2::LEECHextremistTue May 07 1996 21:3110
    <-- Interesting reading.  Though the author makes a few assumptions
    that may or may not be accurate (who knows?), he does make a good
    point.  
    
    Forget China for a moment...where would *WE* be now if government would
    have kept to its assigned tasks and out of business?  Where would we be
    if we didn't have the weighty tax burden that we do today, or the
    unimaginable debt?
    
    The mind boggles.